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A57976 A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ... Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1642 (1642) Wing R2389; ESTC R7368 261,592 504

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19 20. where the Church had her owne Synods without the consent of a civill Magistrate but we are to repute it a speciall favour of God when the King as a nursing-●ather will countenance Synods with his royall presence God blesse our King 5. Conclusion The Kings royall power in adding his sanction to the ecclesiasticall constitutions and in punishing such as are decreed to be hereticks by the Church is regall and not ministeriall and servile See for this the Con c. Chalced. A●t 16. the Imperiall lawes Cod. l. 1 tit 8. leg 2. Heretic Vocab decret p. 2. caus 23. q. 8. c. 30. crossing Bellar. de pont l. 1. c. 7. So do their owne men goe against Bellarmine in this as Sanderus de clavib David l 2. c. 13. Carerius de potest sum pont l. 2. c. 23 Leo epist. 38. to Martian and Pulcheria and Leo epist. 7. to Theodosius Becanus erreth here with Bellarmine making the King as a servant obliged to adde his sanction civill to ecclesiasticall Canons Becan in opusc exam conc Anglic c. 7. 1. Because the use of the sword at Gods commandement is a kingly act commanded by God and is service done to God not to the Church 2. Neither is the King so to execute the Churches will as he should judge only of the fact and of the assumption yea he is to judge of the law and of the major proposition I or we see not in the Word of God where a Judge is a Judge to punish a fault and is not to know judicially that it is a fault a Judge as a Judge should know such a thing to be heresie and not tak● it upon the word of an Assembly of Church-men Deu. 17. 18 19. he is expresly to reade and know the law and to know and remember the Decree Prov. 31. 5. And the cause which he knoweth not he is to search out Job 29. 16. all which is meant of a knowledge not of private discretion which is required in all private Christians but as I take these places of a knowledge judiciall and authoritative which agreeth to a Judge as a Judge 3. If a Synod erre and decree that man to be an heretick who is sound in the faith the King is not obliged to erre with the Synod and to punish the innocent he is to decree righteous judgement and so the King is to judge of heresie but after a regall and civill way and with a coactive pow●r as the Synod or Church-Assembly is to judge of heresie after an ecclesiastick way and with a spirituall power 2. The King punisheth heresie as it troubleth the Common-w●alth and the Synod as it is scandalous and infectious in the Church Yea and the Christian King ruleth over men as men and also as Christian-m●n he ruleth over them as men with a dominion over their bodies lives and goods by his civill lawes he hath also dominion as King over men as Christians and members of Christs kingdome and Church not over their consc●ences for that is proper only to the father of spirits but he hath a coactive power over all men even Pastors as to cause them do their Christian duties he hath power to compell Church-men in Assemblies to determine truth and to use the keyes right and to preach and use the Sacraments according as Christ hath commanded in his Word and to punish them when they do otherwise What then if the King discerne that to be truth and absolve the man whom the Church-Assembly doth condemne as an heretick who shall judge betwixt them I answer the infallible rule of judging for both is the Word of God which speaketh home unpartially to both if they will heare but certainly the Kings civill kingly coactive power to compell men to doe their duty remaineth the highest and most supream power on Earth in genere potestatis politicae in the kind of politick power and pastors and all men may by this power be compelled to do right as for the abuse of the power it is no part of the power and in this kind the King hath a negative politick and kingly suffrage and voyce in all Church Assemblies no ecclesiasticall constitution hath the force of a law without the politick suffrage of the civill Judge And againe the ecclesiastick power that Christ hath given to his Church remaineth also the most supreme power under Christ in genere potestatis ecclesiasticae and the King is subject to this power The King is not excepted in this He that despiseth you despiseth me and in this whatsoever ye shall binde on earth shall be bound in Heaven and in this whose sinnes ye remit they are remitted and whose sinnes ye retaine they are retained and this ecclesiasticall power being the highest on Earth Pastors may command Kings in the Lord Jer. 1. 10 18 17. to doe their duty by an ecclesiastick power Arminians and Formalists both aske which of the two powers are highest and nearest unto the head Christ whither the kingly power or the ecclesiastick power for two paralell highest powers on earth cannot be I answer by asking which of the two shoulders in a mans body are highest and nearest to the mans head Certainly one of them in a well proportioned body is not higher then another and both are alike neare the head as none of two pole-starrs are nearer to their Zenith and Nadir none of two wheels in a right Chariot are higher then another The Church power saith the Prelate Davenant is highest in teaching and directing the kingly power in commanding and compelling Barclai compareth them to two shoulders under one head Meisner saith one of them is not above another There is no absurdity saith Spalato that in two bodies formally different there should be two heads yea it is necessary The Roman Glosse saith Patricius is the Popes father in things temporall and the Pope is his father in things spirituall as Cusan saith Papists saith Spalat have deleted that out of the Glosse So Berengarius Gelasius Papa Nicolaius the I agree to these words Sciendum quod nec Catholicae fidei nec Christianae contrarium est legi si ad honorem regni sacerdotij Rex pontifici pontifix obediat regi Spalato seemeth against Bellarmine to make up the losses made by Papists in Kings honour while he holdeth that the King his person and as he is a Christian man is subject to Church-power but as King he is subject to none but to Christ from whom immediately he hath his kingly dignity even as saith he when an Emperours servant being a Physitian the Emperour as Emperour is not subject to the Physitian but only the Emperour as he is a wounded man is subject to the art of his owne servant who cureth him and that of the Emperour free-will not by coaction so the Image-maker or he who maketh pourtracts in his art is not subject to the King neither is the King as King
the light of saving faith and a grace that they call gratia gratum faciens grace whereby wee are accepted to God as Aquinas speaketh for it is that Heavenly instinct of Believers whereby they try all thing and keepe that which is good and whereby they try the spirits even of Officebearers whether they be of God or not and know the voice of the Shepheard from the voice of a stranger and have their senses exercised to discerne good and evill I denie not but there is a twofold power of election of guides one proper to believers which is as I have described it their choosing of Officers De jure and should flow from this descerning instinct of saving grave in believers there is an other power of election De facto that floweth from a common grace of discerning in visible professors both is sufficient for Ecclesiasticall choosing of guides yet both is but popular not authoritative but power of authoritative jurisdiction is gratia gratis data a common grace given to many that are never converted nor saved yea the office of a publike guide to save others is given to a man that is never saved himselfe and requireth some indowments of governing that are not required in all the faithfull as is cleared by Paul 1 Timothy 3. Therefore Gerson will have us to difference betwixt these two a Pastour ad utilitatem and a Pastour ad veritatem and a called Pastour and a called Christian Pastour And Almaine proveth well that the calling to a Church-office is not founded upon saving faith and charitie This power of choosing is a power about the keyes but not a power of the keyes 2. It is common to all believers who are not to take Pastours as the market goeth upon a blinde hearesay but officiall authoritie is given to Demas and Iudas and such men often 3. It is given to women to try the spirits yet women have not authoritie neither are to usurpe authoritie over men in the Church I desire in the feare of God that this may be considered by William Best Henry Jacob and the Author of Presbyteriall Government examined for our Divines as Daneus give the calling of ●hurch guides to the Presbyterie and the approbation to the people Vrsine differenceth betwixt the judgement of Elders and the consent of people and Bucer judiciously distinguisheth power from authoritie And Martyr Calvin Beza Zuinglius Viretus Luther so the Fathers Tertullian Cyprian Ambrose Chrysostome In this meaning said Augustine the keyes were given in Peter to the whole Church so our Divines are to be expounded when they say the power is in the Church and the exercise of the power in the guides for that power which is in the Church of believers is popular not authoritative III. Conclusion The physicall power of the keyes is in all professors as our first Conclusion saith 2. The supreme morall power in Christ Iesus formally and independently To mee is given all power in Heaven and Earth Matthew 28. 18. this includeth the power of working miracles by the hands of his Apostles all as well as the power of the keyes and is communicated to the Church not formally but in the effect 3. Power morall about the keyes as is said in 2. Conclusion is given to all the faithfull 4. The exercise of the keyes to preach and administer the seales of Grace to open and shut Heaven by the keyes is given to the Rulers in some things as they are scattered and single men as to preach and administer the Sacraments without consent in speciall to every singular act in some things as to exercise power of Jurisdiction the exercise and the power is given to a communitie not to one Vnitati non uni as Gerson observeth from Augustine and Augustine from the word Matthew the sixteenth for the Church not one single man hath power of Discipline if one Pastour himselfe alone should Excommunicate the Excommunication were null both in the court of CHRIST and his Church if a Pastour should baptize against the Churches minde the Baptisme were valid howbeit there were an errour in the fact for power of jurisdiction is given to the members of the Church scattered tanquam subjecto cuidam materiali potentiali in remote power and not formally but as they are met in a Synod in Christs name 5. The power of the keyes is given to the Church of believers two wayes 1. As to the end or the small object of the keyes and this we acknowledge as truth for Christ gave officers for the Church as his intended end Hee gave some to bee Apostles c. for the perfecting of the Saints for the worke of the Ministerie for the edifying of the Body of Christ. But 2. The power of the Keyes is not given to believers as to the formall subject that they may authoritatively make and ordaine officers Hence the IV. Conclusion is this When the Church standeth of believers only as contradistinguished from her guides it is then totum homogeneum a body consisting of alike parts where the denomination of the whole is given to the parts as every part of water is water so every three believers of five hundred believers is a Church of believers Now if a Church should be in a remote Island not consociate with other Churches and yet wanting guides our brethren say in this case the power of the Keyes should bee seene to bee in believers and they might choose and ordaine their owne officers I grant they have great Schoolemen to say with them as Almaine and Oc●am and the Schoole of Paris who say if all the Cardinals were dead the faithfull might and should choose the Pope Sylvester in summa verbo excommunicatio 9. nu 2. saith The Romane clergie should have the power of choosing the Pope in that case But C●jetan Tom. 1. Epist Tractat. 1. Vasquez in 3. part Thomas Tom. 3. Disput. 244. cap. 3. 30. 31. doe better say in that case the power of choosing should be in the hands of a Generall Councell and that by divine right Then by their minde supreme power or the keyes by divine right is in the hands of Church guides But great Schoolemen say that the keyes by a miracle and extraordinary might remain in the body of the faithfull But I say in this case Necessity is an unbooked and naughty Lawyer and God extraordinarily should supply the want of ordination as he can doe the defect of second causes so that if God send some pastours to a congregation that were unwilling to choose their owne Eldership Pastours might ordaine themselves Pastors in that case to these people and God should supply their want of popular election and this is all 's good to prove election to be in the hands of Church guides which both our brethren and wee deny as the other case
is to prove the power of the keyes to be in the multitude But we are now disputeing about the power of the keyes in a Church ministeriall which is totum heterageneum where the whole giveth not a denomination to the part as every part of a man is not a man a Church made up of only believers is not Christs organicall body where there are eyes eares and hands and feet as is meaned Rom. 12. and 1 Cor. 12. for all are here an eye of believers and all of collaterall and equall authoritie neither is there here an eye or an hand in a ministeriall function above a foote But wee now dispute about the keyes of a ministeriall Church as Iunius saith made up of integrall parts of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Shepheards and Sheepe V. Conclusion The office bearers of the Church have the power of the Keyes and their office immediately from Christ by the immediation of free gift they have their offices from the Church by the mediation of orderly designation seeing it is the Church which designeth such a man to such an office therefore it is said Eph. 4. 11. Hee gave some to be Apostles for the Church he saith not to the Church as if the faithfull by an innate and received power from Christ did ordaine by authoritie Ministers as their servants and Deputies for all the authoritie is Christs not the believers I grant what is given for the Church in some sense is said to be given to the Church as Chrysostome said The gift of baptisme is given to the whole Church but the power of baptising is not given to all the believers as to the subject This Conclusion I prove 1. That is not to be holden which is not written as our brethren hold So Best Travers Parker Ames M. Iacob so also Theodoret Cyrill Augustine Ambrose but it is neither expresly nor by good consequence in Scriptures no precept no promise where all the faithfull lay hands on men for the Ministerie as Titus Paul and the Presbyterie doe 1 Timothy 4. 14. or where all the faithfull doe binde and loose and receive witnesses judicially against Elders as Peter and Timothy have authority to doe 2. Argument If the word say that the power of the keyes is given to certaine select persons and not to all believers then is not this power given to all believers but the word saith the former er The Assumption is thus proved If these Offices that essentially include both the power and the exercise of the Keyes be given to some select persons and not to all the faithfull then are not the Keyes given to all the faithfull but the Lord gave the office of Apostles Prophets c. to some only And God hath set some in the Church then not all first Apostles secondarily Prophets thirdly Teachers c. And hee gave some to be Apostles not all and some Prophets c. Are all Apostles The major is proved because to be an Apostle a Pastor c. is to have a power given by Christ to use the keyes by preaching binding and loosing by censures as an Apostle Pastor c. This cannot be answered seeing there must be another power to binde and loose in Pastours and Elders than is in all believers women believing children and many believers unapt to governe 3 Argument To whomsoever Christ giveth the power of the Keyes to them he gave a ministeriall spirit by way of speciall ambassage to remit and to retaine sins as the Ambassadors of God in Christs stead and them he sent as the fathe● sent him as is cleare in the Scripture As the Father sent me so send I you c. He breat●ed on them and said receive the Holy Ghost whosoever sinnes ye remit they are remitted In which words our Divines Calvin Bullinger Musculus Beza yea and Papists Cajetan Toletus teach that Christ here did inaugurate his Disciples to preach and exercise the censures of the Church so also Cyrill Chrysostome Cyprian But this ministeriall spirit Christ gave not to all the faithfull but only to the Apostles for he sent not Mary Magdalene and Cleophas in this place as M. Smith saith and why because it is gathered from Luk. 24. 33 34 36. That Magdalene and Cleophas were there saith he when Christ said As my Father sent me so send I you Therefore Mary also and Cleopha● received a ministeriall power of the keyes all as well as 〈◊〉 Apostles I answer but this place is all one with Mat. 28. 18 19. where they are commanded to preach and baptize which is not lawfull to women 1 Cor. 14. 1 Tim. 2. And it is all one with the Commission Mark 16 14. which is restruted to the eleven Another weake ground he hath that the eleven were not made Apostles untill Christs Ascension Act. 2. when the spirit was sent and untill he led captivitie captive Ephes. 4. 11. but this power was given to all the Disciples before his ascension Answer a higher m●asure of the Spirit was powred on the Apostles at Christs Ascension and by vertue of his Ascension he ordained Apostles Eph. 4. 11. but will it follow none were made Apostles untill he ascended if this were good by vertue of his death wee obtaine forgivenesse of sinnes by his ascending to heaven we also ascend But hence it followeth not that there is no forgivenesse of sinnes while Christ die and that there is no ascending to heaven of the spirits of the Patriarchs and Fathers while Christ ascended 2. That the Apostles were called and received Apostleship from Christ in the dayes of his slesh before his death is cleare Matth. 10. 2 3. and that they went out and preached and cast out divels A second exception there is of some who say a concionall or preaching power of forgivnesse of sinnes is not given to all to whom a loosing from sins by Church censures is given as is cleare in our Ruling Elders who have not power to forgive sinnes by preaching yet have power to forgive binde and loose by Church-censures Answer We may distinguish where the law distinguisheth for howbeit the power of preaching be not given formally to ruleing Elders yet it is effectually in the fruit given to them in the judiciall and authoritative applicatio● in the externall court of Christs Church but believers as believers only have neither power to preach formally nor yet effectively to apply judicially the threatnings of the word in discipline to the judiciall correction of delinquents now the keyes in the word and the keyes in the discipline are the same keyes of Christs kingdome as Amesius observeth and the keyes of the word are the keyes of the kingdome committed to all either formally or effectively to whom the keyes of discipline are given but they are never given to
the Elders in things commanded by God and these may well stand together I answer If we speake of divers kindes of obedience it is true people is to obey the Pastours and Elders using the keyes here the sheepe obey the Shepheards and this is the obedience that Christ hath established in his house and the Elders as Archippus are to heare the flock admonishing no commanding as Watchmen Fathers Pastours by the power of the keyes that they would take heed to the ministerie which they have received of the Lord and this is but private admonition that one man one woman may give to their Pastours Now one man is not the Church bearing the keyes but this opinion maketh Archippus and all the faithfull at Colosse to beare the keyes and command by power of the keyes so that all are Fathers Pastours Pastours by one and the same power of the keyes His second answer is All are not rulers An incorporation may make a Major or Sheriffs and yet the incorporation is not a Major and Sheriffe So the Church may make Ministers and yet the Church it selfe is not properly an Elder or a Deacon Answer It is not alike An incorporation hath a priviledge but not any princely or magisteriall authoritie to create a Major but the Saints have the regall power of the keyes from Christ not only to make Elders but also to judge authoritatively with coequall power with the Elders by your doctrine if the whole inhabitants of a citie may make a Major and set themselves down in the Bench as collaterall Judges with the Major then all the inhabitants indeed were Majors as all the Saints in Corinth did judicially excommunicate why are they not then all Elders and Pastours Shew us any authoritie that Pastours have in governing which the meanest of the congregation hath not And this maketh all Ministers and all to be Watchmen Fathers Overseers This I take to have beene the errour of Tertullian who will have Christ to have left all Christians with alike power 8. Argument If there be a peculiar authoritie in Pastors over the flock that is not in the flock Then the keyes are not both in the Pastours and the people but the first is said in Scripture ergo The later must also be said I prove the Minor What will ye that I come to you with a rod or in love or in the Spirit of meeknesse also Therefore I write these things being absent lest being present I should use sharpnesse according to the power that the Lord hath given me to edification and not to destruction Hence it is that the Angels of the seven Churches in Asia are rebuked for not exerc●sing discipline against Iezabel and the holders of the Doctrine of Bal●m which proveth the Angels had the keyes els all alike had beene rebuked Now that every one of Corinth hath the power of Pauls Rod and his power given for edification is most ridiculous So Becanus the Jesuite Can every believer say to a Church Shall I come to you with the Rod Yet if all have the keyes as the subject all have the Rod also 9. Arg. That which Christ will have to be a ministeriall power in the members of his Church to the exercise therof Christ giveth competent and answerable gifts to the foresaid effect But God neither giveth nor hath promised nor requireth answerable gifts for using the keyes in all believers Therefore Christ willeth no ministeriall power of the keyes to be in all the members of the Church The proposition I prove 1. God promiseth gifts to the priesthood of the new Testament As 1. Diligence Esay 61. That strangers shall stand and feed their flocks 2. Zeale Esay 62. That they shall never give the Lord rest 3. That they shall be cloathed with salvation 2. When God sendeth Moses Isaiah Ieremiah he giveth them gifts and abilities for the calling So as the Treatist of Discipline observeth it is oft said The Spirit of the Lord came upon him and he judged Israel So also other places for this 3. They are condemned who take on them a calling and say Thus saith the Lord and yet the Lord sent them not neither spake he to them as in Isaiah Jeremiah and Ezekiel 4. Where the Lord giveth a calling or power such as the keyes of his Kingdome the not improving and putting the Lords Talent to the bank is a sinfull digging of the Lords Talent in the earth Hence I desire to know from Gods word these foure things 1. If the power of the keyes be given by Christ to all the faithfull this power is a ministeriall calling Where is there a promise for light prudence for government to goe out and in before the Lords people made to every one of the Lords people 2. Where is the tongue promised to them all in judgement that none shall resist and the consolations promised to them in the discharge of this power of the keyes 3. Where is the Spirit of the Lord comming upon them all and every one that they may judge the people 4. Where are the believers condemned for usurping the keyes and because being ignorant they cannot discharge that calling Where is the carelesse governing of all and every one of the faithfull rebuked in the word of God as a digging of the Lords talent in the earth I adde two things to confirme this 1. Our Divines disputing against the great Pope the Bishop of Rome and against the little Pope the Prelate his god-son and first born come out of the Popes loynes as Calvin Beza Iunius Zanchius Sadeel Pareus Vrsine Whitaker Reynold and Amesius Baines Parker Didoclavius c. They prove if such power of the keyes and plenitude of order and jurisdiction were in these two creatures the Pope and the Prelate the wisedome of Christ in his Word should have set downe the canons for the regulating of the power besides the canons that concerneth all other Bishops or Pastours for the heads or Monarchs dutie in the common wealth is carefully set downe in the word as what a man the King should be but the word hath no canons for the power of the keyes and the regulating of that power in all and every believer man and woman 2. If God set downe a Canon and requires abilities in the Church guides as Elders labou●ing in the word and doctrine and governing and in Deacons that he requireth not in all believers then the power of the keyes is not in the Church guides and in all believers also but the former is said 1 Tim. 3. for it is required in a Minister that his power of the keyes may be said to be of God that he should rule his owne house well else how should he 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 take care to governe the Church of God One may be a believer and yet this is not required of
key toward another this way but these are not the keyes ecclesiastically and formally that are given to the Church seeing one man is not the Church But only the keyes materially used in a private way as a common servant at command of the Lord of the house may use the keyes and give broad to the barnes but it followeth not hence that the keyes are given to him authoritatively as to the Steward by speciall office because this servant of charitie useth the keyes or rather that which is in place of the keyes which is the word in a private way CHAPTER III. Whether or no the Church of believers in a Congregation be the first Church having the highest power of jurisdiction within it selfe and that independently and power above and over their Eldership to constitute and ordaine them by an intrinsecall power received from Jesus Christ and by that same power to censure and depose them when they become scandalous in life or corrupt in doctrine THe determination of this question so neare of blood and kindred to the former two is of much force to cleare many doubts in this subject Hence I propound these following distinctions as very considerable 1. A Church independent is twofold either a Church of believers in a congregation having originally the power of the keyes within themselves to make or unmake their officers 2. Or an Eldership of one congregation including the congregation that may from an intrinsecall power without subordination to Synods provinciall or nationall exercise all jurisdiction This question is of the former independent Church 2. A Church is considered two wayes 1. As totum essentiale this is a mysticall Church consisting of only b●lievers or of persons as professing faith a Church of faithfull of Saints 2. The Church is considered as totum integrale made up of officers and a flock this Ames cals an instituted Church others a Ministeriall Church as we consider John as a believer or John as an Elder or minister of a Church 3. There is a twofold Primacie answerable to this One whereby a number of believers is the first mysticall body of Christ immediately united to Christ as a mysticall body to the head This is a mysticall or Christian primacy or to speak so firstnesse or principality 2. There is an other primacy or principalitie ministeriall wherby such a number of men are the first subject of the keyes having power of binding and loosing first and immediately from Christ as is proved Ch. 1. 4. 3. Christ hath a twofold influence as head upon these two bodies one influence of speciall and saving grace upon the Church of believers An other common influence communicating to the ministeriall body the power of the keyes and gifts which hee gave to men to be Pastours and Teachers and Elders when he ascended on high and le● captivitie captive Neither do they looke right on this question who will have the power of the keyes an essentiall propertie of the Church of believers for there is no reciprocation here betwixt the propertie and the subject seeing the power of the keyes is in many that are unbelievers and not of Christs mysticall body Many warrantably preach Christ to others and seale the covenant to others who are unsaved men remember the builders of the Arke and many are Christs mysticall body that have not the power of the keyes All believers are not Eld●rs having power of order Hence our 1. Conclusion If wee speake of a Christian primacie and eminency of grace the Church of believers sincerely professing the faith and believing is the only first true visible Church 1. The essence and definition of a called and effectually translated company agreeth to them and they are the called of God 2. Because the promises made to the redeemed saved and washen Church belongeth to them they are properly the Church builded on the rock the loved and redeemed spouse of Christ. 2. This Church is the true body of Christ which shall infallibly bee glorified with the head Christ. The ministeriall Church is his body also on which hee hath an influence bestowing upon them common gifts but not a body which shall infallibly be glorified but in so far as they are true members of the Church of believers And here observe our brethren have no cause to object to us that there is not a place in all the old or new Testament where the word Church signifieth only the presbyterie or Eldership the contrary whereof God willing I shall shew but I desire that they will produce a place in either the old or new Testament where the word Church signifieth a governing multitude or a ministeriall company of onely believers having power and use of the keyes yet this must be shewed in this dispute if their principles stand good 11. Conclusion A multitude of believers sincerely professing the faith is the first visible mysticall Church because the definition of a visible mysticall Church agreeth to them being redeemed professors of the Gospell So the saints at Colosse Corinth Philippi as not including their guides is a true uisible Church Before I come to the third conclusion I must shew what our brethren hold anent this present question The English puritanisme holdeth every Congregation or Assemblie of true believers joyning together according to the order of the Gospell in the true worship of God to be a true visible Church And that this name is unproperly given to Synods or Assemblies of office-bearers so also the Guide to Zion Parker maketh the Church of believers in any particular congregation to be the highest and most supreme Church in majoritie and power of jurisdiction above t●eir owne Eldership or Presbyterie having power to ordaine or depose them above all Synods of Pastours and Elders William Best citeth and approveth the mind of the English Church as he calleth it at Frankeford the Ministers and Seniors severally and joyntly shall have no authority to make any manner of decrees or ordinances to bind the congregation or any member thereof but sh●ll ●●ecute such ordinances as shall be made by the congregation and to them delivered Hooker against Paget They whic● had compleat and perfect Ministers before any Classes had power to call those Ministers they have authoritie above the Ministers But a particul●r congregation had perfect and compleat Ministers perfectly and compleatly called before any Classes To this agreeth the confession of faith of the unjustly called Brownists that every Christian congregation yea two or three sequestred from the whole hath ●ower from Christ of election ordination deposition excommunication of the Elders or Office-bearers set over them And expresly M. Parker a man otherwayes of an excellent spirit for holinesse and learning saith That the supremacie of Ecclesiasticall power is in the Church of believers contradistinguished from their guides Paul and Apollo Here we see
a Minister Secondly Parker reasoneth thus Every meane is inferiour to the end but Church guides are meanes ordained of Christ for the Church of believers and the gathering of the Saints as Gods intended end Therfore Church guides are inferiour to the Church of believers and subject thereunto So Paul 1 Cor. 11. proveth the woman to be subject to the man because the woman is for the man Answ. From this is only concluded that Rulers are inferiour in dignitie to the believers which is neither questioned nor denyed by us but it is not hence proved that believers have majoritie of jurisdiction above the overseers or that overseers borrow the power of the keyes from the believers as from the first subject The woman is inferiour in dignitie to the man and the man more excellent but the man suppose he be the end hath not a jurisdiction or Lordly power over the woman Christ the mediator is for the Churches salvation as for the end it followeth not that the Church hath a jurisdiction over Christ. The good Angels are ministring spirits for the good of the heires of salvation Heb. 1. 14. It followeth not by good Logick that the heires of salvation have power of jurisdiction over the good Angels Thirdly Parker reasoneth thus from the dignitie of the Church If the Church bee a Mistresse Spouse and Mother then her guides must be subject to her as servants and sonnes So Bergensis in the councell of Basill So Whittaker proveth the Pope to be subject to the Church as his Mother Answe The Church of sole believers is not the Spouse and mother of the Church guides but the ministeriall Church of Pastours and elders is Queene Mother that begetteth the sonnes of Zion to God and so all the authoritative power that the mother hath it is from the Fathers and Pastours that beget children to God Other wayes one private Christian that is a meanes of begeating a pastour to the faith of Christ hath power of jurisdiction over the Pastour which no wise man will averre when Divines subject the Pope to a generall Councell they make him with good reason inferiour to a ministeriall Church Fourthly Parker reasoneth thus If Christ communicate a greater measure and a more immediate presence of his spirit to the Church of believers than to the overseers Then the most supreme power of jurisdiction is given to the believers and not to the overseers So Whittaker where there is m●joritie of power there is majoritie of assistance of the Holy Spirit ruling the Church many eyes see more than one I will be with you to the end of the world is promised to the Church So our Divines reason against the Pope Greater is the Temple than the gold that sanctifieth the Temple the altar than the sacrifice The faithfull cannot fall away the guides except they be believers may fall away neither is there a promise of salvation remission of sinnes made to the guides which is made to the Church of believers Ans. If the wayes of Christs presence with the believer and with the overseers were one and the same the argument would say some thing but they are of divers kindes Therefore I deny this Where Christ is more immediately present there is the more supreme power of the keyes or there is the power of the keyes more principally for it is a caption a non causa for Christs presence by faith is not the cause of the power of the keyes Saving grace is not the cause why God giveth common gifts for then a holier pastor should be more essentially a Pastor Baptisme administrat by him should bee more essentially baptisme then the baptisme administred by a lesse holy or a prophane pastour this is the errour of the Donatists to hang the worthinesse of Gods ordinances upon the worthinesse of the instruments one baptisme is not more essentially baptisme than another Whatever be the goodnesse or badnesse of the Minister the power of the keyes essentially is one and the same in all God doth more assist and more abundantly blesse one mans ministerie than another but the difference there is in the effects and manner of working not in the essence and nature of the keyes as we say a man of thirty yeares is more and greater of stature and a bigger man than a child of foure years old but a man of thirty yeares is not more essentially a reasonable creature than a child of foure yeares old for the nature of man is alike essentially in both The goodnesse of God and his good pleasure is the cause why God giveth the power of the keyes to some persons and not to othersome the grace and holinesse of a man is not the cause It is dangerous to averre that the power of the keyes is more or lesse in persons according as they are more or lesse sanctified and graced of God for then Mary Magdalene hath more power of the keyes and hath more ecclesiastick authoritie than Iudas or any unbelieving Pastour duely called of Christ and his Church And therefore it is a sickly consequence to reason from the excellencie of the promises of grace and the measure of holinesse to the power of the keyes or the measure of the power of the keyes Our Divines reason well from a greater majoritie of grace and light pastorall or of gifts pastorall or ecclesiastick to inferre the majoritie of power of jurisdiction and of this speaketh Whittaker and our Divines There is a greater measure of the Spirit of prophecy and of grace ministeriall promised to the whole representative Church of Christ convened in a Councell Occumenick than to one man the Pope or to a Prophet and they give but doe not grant that the Pope is a Prophet when they hold him to be a thiefe or a robber Hence they prove well the Pope to be inferiour in power of jurisdiction to a generall councell of Pastours and Elders 2. It is utterly false that they say where there is more stabilitie of grace and holinesse there is more authoritie and ecclesiastical power When both the subjects are not capable of ecclesiastick power now the subjects are so here the Eldership is a subject capable of the keyes but the communitie of believers that are private Christians and no more are not capable of this power and they beg the question who reason with us in this argument It is soule reasoning to say the snow is whiter than a Raven because there is more of cold qualities elementarie in the snow nor in the Raven because the Raven is not white at all Aristotle taught us long since at the Schooles that the comparative degree could not be ascribed to the subjects of whom the positive degree is denyed Because a Raven is not white it is vanitie to prove that snow is whiter than a Raven Believers are not capable of the keyes remaining only believers except God freely call them to the Ministeriall state Believers I
grant have authoritie of grace to be Kings and Priests to God for grace hath with it heavenly Majestie and authoritie but they have not authoritie officiall or power ecclesiastick they want both power of order and jurisdiction except they be called Pastours and Elders but then they are believers and somewhat more But if they want power of jurisdiction their power as members of the congregation is christian popular private not authoritative not a power of the keyes Grace true and saving addeth a faire lustre to the power of the keyes and doth graciously qualifie and adorn that power but where there is no power of the keyes in simple believers it cannot adorne it to please and embrouder a wicked man is not Christ. What is the power of believers shall be declared hereafter if God permit 4. Parker disputeth thus The Church-guides must be subject to the censures of the Church of believers whereof they are members The Colossians must say to Archippus take heed to the ministerie that thou hast received of the Lord. So Ambrose thinketh it the rulers even the Emperours honour to bee subject to the Church Nazian calleth the Emperour himselfe a sheepe of the flocke and subject to the tribunall as Bellarmine granteth and that tell the Church bindeth Peter and the highest ruler So Barrow Every member is bound to the edification service and utilitie of the whole body commanded to reprove his brother to bind their sins by the word of God even their Princes with chaines to admonish Archippus yea though an Apostle or Angell preached an other Gospell to pronounce him accursed Answ. That the Prelate should be above the Church and exempted from the lawes and censures of the Church whereof he is a Prelate is most unjust and this worthy Parker proveth unanswerably Emperours being pastours are under the lawes of Jesus Christ the highest lawgiver and so Ambrose and Nazianzen say well But hence is not proved because the Collossians are as private Christians to admonish or rubuke their pastour Archippus Therefore the body of believers have the power of the keyes to depose and excommunicate and consequently to ordaine and lay hands on pastours which is commanded and commended only to such as to Timothy and Titus and in them to the Elders and Presbyterie and that tell the Church doeth bind Peter and oblige all Pastors and Rulers to be lyable to the lawes and censures of the Church but by the word Church is not meaned the Church of believers but the Eldership of all incorporations ecclesiastick respective of congregations presbyteries and Synods as God willing I shall make good 3. Barrowes Scriptures are most corruptly wrested for Ioseph a prince did bind in fetters the Senators of Egypt therfore a private believer hath the keyes of the Kingdome of heaven to shut and open What reason is there here An Apostle or Angell preaching another Gospell is accursed it followeth not Therefore a private believer suppone a woman who is no lesse than a man bound to the edification service and utilitie of the whole body is to excommunicate an Apostle or an Angell who shall preach an other Gospell The keyes shall be too common if all private Christians may put to their hand and use them because they are to teach admonish rebuke comfort and edifie one another in a private and popular way any may see it is one thing for one member of the body to help one another by exhorting and rebuking which is a worke of common charitie and for pastors publikely as the ambassadors of Christ Jesus to use the keyes by publike preaching of the Gospell which is a worke of his pastorall charge yea these two differ as an act of obedience to the law of nature and common charitie and an act of obedience to a divine positive law 5. Parker reasoneth thus Coactive jurisdiction as excommunication is a meane of edification that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Corinthians 5. 4. Now the soules of guides Parker saith the soules of Prelates shall bee in a wors● case than the soules of the flocke if they bee not subject to a particular Church as Corinth for they want that meane of edification which others have Some say Synods are to take order with pasto●rs and not the Church of Believers But Papists answer The Bishop is to be judged by the Archbishop or Patriarch if they shall scandalously sinne then they are to be left to the Pope and the Generall Councell which cannot be had Answer I deny not but every pastour is subject in some things to the Eldership of the congregation where he is and if he were not lyable to lawes or censure hee were a pope but in the matter that deserveth deprivation he is only to be censured by the Presbyterie and Synods for a number of believers nay a number of Ruling Elders cannot deprive him because they cannot ordaine a pastour for the law saith well It is one power of the keyes to ordaine and to exauthorate and deprive But no word of God will warrant a number of believers to censure ecclesiastically their pastor not because hee is their pastor and they his flocke for so the Eldership of his owne congregation might not ecclesiastically censure him which I judge to be false but because the Church of sole believers hath not the power of the keyes and they have not power to censure any other believer except in a private way as fellow members of that same body but in a constitute Church a Colledge of pastors and Elders only hath power to deprive or excommunicate a pastour and there remaineth CHRISTS way of edification that hee bee in this case censured by Synods But yee will say this is the Papists answer I answer it is not for they will have the pastour censured by the Prelate the Prelate by the Arch-Prelate which we deny as Antichristian for all are to be by the Church But Synods m●y erre Then appe●le to a greater Synod for united force is stronger But they also you will say may errr● I answer and the Congregation of sole beleevers is not free from error but this doctrine of our brethren shall resolve all government in the hands of th● people as in the highest and most soveraigne ju●icature which is to make all Pastors all oversee●● all Judges 6. Parker reasoneth from the necessary defence of the Church Every particular Church is an Armie a Ship a body 1 Cor. 12. Therefore when they are neare danger they have power to take order with a drunken Pilot and put him from the rud●er and to take order with a tyrann●u● Capt●ine and to purge out the filth and excrements of the body So politicians as Keckerman Hottomanus say a wicked Magistrate is to be deposed if no other remedy can be found So Gerson Answ. It is one thing what a multitude may doe in a desperate case of necessity
who confesseth our Thesis that in these words tell the Church Christ doth understand the Presbytery or Eldership Hence the word Church in the New Testament doth not alwayes signifie the Church of Believers Disciples Brethren who pray in Christs name and are heard in Heaven and are builded on the Rocke and are the body and spouse of Christ for a number may be and often is an Eldership judicially excommunicating and a Presbytery yea and also including some externally professing Christ who are not a company of redeemed ones built by saving faith upon the Rocke Jesus Christ. Also it is insolent that the word Church here should signifie both precisely the Eldership and also in that same vers the whole Congregation of believers because the same Church to the which the offended brother should put in his bill of complaint is that very Church which must be heard and obeyed under the pain of excommunication 2. It is hard that the offender should be excommunicated for not hearing and obeying the Congregation of believers who are not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 over him in the Lord. 3. By grant of M. Parker the Church of believers hath not power from this place Mat 18. to ordaine pastors to themselves when they want pastors or to excommunicate their own Eldership in case of scandalous sins which is against his grounds and our Brethrens principles who ascribe this authority to the Congregation of believers because a number of believers is not an Aristocraticall part and a select Presbytery and Eldership as he saith is meaned in this word tell the Church 14. The Church here cannot well mean a visible Congregation of believers and Elders conveened to heare the Word preached so as he who contemneth two private admonitions should be accused and censured in the face of the Congregation conveened to hear Gods Word Because the Church meeteth in Christs name for Gods worship if they meet in faith and humble sense of sinne with purpose of heart to worship God in spirit and truth but there is some other thing required that the excommunicating Church meet for the actuall exercise of discipline for beside meeting in Christs name there is required that the Church meet with Pauls spirit and the rod of discipline 1 Cor 5. 4. That yee meet in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ and my spirit with power of our Lord Iesus Christ. Then Pauls spirit as an Elder who hath power of the rod a spirit and power of excommunication is required to this meeting But I doubt not but the Church of believers did meet at Corinth 1 Cor 11. for hearing the Word and receiving the Lords Supper and for ordinary wor●hip and praying and praysing when it was not needfull that Paul should write That yee meet together in the name of our Lord Iesus and my spirit to heare the Word and to receive the Lords Supper There was no need of Pauls spirit for that therfore I conclude that this meeting of the excommunicating Church requireth another spirit and authoritative power to deliver to Satan such as was in Paul then is required in ten believers meeting in faith without Pauls authoritative power to heare Gods Word For Paul saith of his authoritative meeting I verily absent in body but present in spirit have judged c. but Paul knew that they might meet as a number of believers to heare the Word whither Paul be absent or present in spirit and this I observe for their mistake who teach that two or three agreeing together upon Earth and praying for one thing are heard of God as it is said Mat 18. 19 20. is an independent Church having the power of the Keyes for first Christ then hath not provided a sure way for removing scandals And when he saith tell the Church this tell the Church must be a definite visible conspicuously known Church now in one congregation one province one nation there be three hundreth six or ten hundreth threes or fours of professed believers if every three and every foure be an independent Church to which of all these many threes and fours shall the plantiffe addresse himselfe for they be all equally independent Churches the plantiffe is left in the midst and knoweth not his ordinary judge there be so many tribunals in one Congregation yea in one Family 2. How many key-bearing Churches shall be within one independent Congregation who may all meet in publike in one house for the joynt worshiping of God together 3. Christ in these words where he is said to heare two who shall agree together upon earth as touching one thing hath no purpose to erect visible Churches with the full power of the keyes consisting only of three or foure believers but he doth argue here from the lesse to the more as Bucer saith and as Musculus God will not only ratifie excommunication but he will heare the prayers of his children universally and this promise ver 20. of Christs presence amongst two or three is more large and generall then his promise to ratifie the sentence of excommunication even that Christ will be with his owne howbeit they be not Church-waies conveened or rather as Paraeus saith it is a generall promise of the presence of Christs grace in his Church sive magnâ sive parvâ either great or small and I grant it will prove the power of our Church sessions in Scotland very well where there is often but one Pastor and some few ruling Elders but Christ cannot promise a Church-presence of his Spirit and grace or such a presence wherby he ratifieth the censures of the Church but where there is a Church consisting of Elders and people but if the words be pressed according to the letter and definite number then it shall follow that every two believers yea suppose two women agreeing on earth to pray for one thing shall be a Ministeriall Church having the power of the keys which is most absurd For a number of believers make not a Church having the power of the keys for 1. They want the power of binding and loosing by preaching 2. They are not a golden candlestick in the which Christ walketh as a visible Church is Rev. 1. Christs meaning the● must be I promise my presence to the smallest Church suppose it were possible that a Ministeriall Church could consist of the least number that is even of two only but Christs purpose is not to make every two believers a visible Ministeriall Church and every believing Family a congregation having the power of the keys Vasquez the Jesuite hath arguments and ancients to speak from the Text this which we say which can hardly be answered See that Enchiridion of the Province of Cullen under Charles the V. See also Jansenius Maldonat and others on this Text. CHAP. IX Q. 9. What members are necessarily required for the right and lawfull constitution of a true politicke visible Church to the which we
God which was a solemne publick worship for there was amongst that company who ought to have bin separated v. 4. those to whom the Lord had not given a heart to perceive nor eyes to see nor ears to heare to this day So Moses in that prophaned the name of God polluted the word of the covenant Many other instances might bee given for this purpose 3. Argument If Paul doe not only not command separation in the Church of Corinth but also command and approove their meeting together in Church-communion 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Cor. 11. 18 20 21 22. 1 Cor. 14. 23. 1 Cor. 16. 2. where there was schismes and contentious 1 Cor. 1. 12 13. envying and strife 1 Cor. 3. 3. incest and incest tolerated such as is not named amongst the Gentiles 1 Cor. 5. 1. going to law with their brethren for gain before Infidels 1 Cor. 6. Harlotry v. 15 16. Eating at the Idols-Table 1 Cor. 8. Keeping fellowship with Divels 1 Cor. 10. 20 2 22. comming to the Lords Table drunken 1 Cor. 11. 21. eating and drinking damnation v. 29 30. A denying of a fundamentall point of faith the resurrection of the dead and that with scoffing at it 1 Cor. 15. 35. Murthering of weak soules whom Christ had dyed for 1 Cor. 8. 12 13. Pauls name despitefully traduced 2 Cor. 10. 8 9. c. Then it is unlawfull to separate from the pure worship of God because a Church is not constitute of visible Saints and a people all taught of God To this Master Barrow answereth 1. These were faults of frailty and ignorance Answ. Such sinnes of the flesh against the law of nature as envy strife extortion drunkennesse at the Lords Table are not sinnes of frailty malitious hating and reproaching the knowne and approoved servant of God 1 Corinth 10. 11 12. 1 Corinth 4. 18 19 20. are not frailties but must contaminate the worship no lesse then sins to the which obstinacy is added howbeit possibly not in alike measure and degree 2. We then are to thinke them members of a visible Church and not to separate from them howbeit in the judgement of charity we cannot say they are a royall Priest-hood the holy seed the sheepe of Christ the Spouse and body of Christ and all taught of God as you say for so the constitution of the visible Church is marred and a company that is not such is not the matter of a visible Church as you teach Barrow secondly saith We should not separate till their sinnes be reprooved and censured and they declared incorrigible and such as will not heare admonition such were not the Corinthians Answ. Then we are to esteeme denyers of the resurrection schismatickes extortioners drunkards incestuous persons fornicatours knowne so to us to bee a Royall Priest-hood the Sheepe bodie and Spouse of Christ regenerate plants of righteousnesse precious stones of Zion all taught of God aye and while the Church and Professours rebuke them and censure them 2. If these were not dispisers of Pauls admonitions why should Paul say 1 Cor. 4. 21. shall I come to you with the rodde how were some of them puffed up as though Paul would not come ver 18. and why doth Paul never once command that they separate from the Church if the Church will not use the rodde against them if the servant of God must waite on gainsayers and obstinate persons if at any time God shall give them repentance 2 Tim. 2. 14 15 16. Should not one wait on a whole Church or many in a Church and keep communion with them till God give them repentance It 's true Separatists say there should be no separation from a Church till all meanes be used of rebuking but why did not then Elijah Moses Joshuah Isaiah Ieremiah command separation and why did they command Church-fellowship after all meanes are used and Israel declared stiffe-necked Deut. 9. 6. Sodome Gomorrah Isa. 1. 10. impudent and hard-hearted Ezech. 3. 7. stiffe hearted chap. 2. 4. refusing to hearken pulling away the shoulder stopping their eare making their heart as an Adamant Zach. 7. 11 12. after all which Church communion with them in the word covenant and oath of God Sacraments Passeover circumcision prayer hearing of the word is commanded 4. Argument If the Apostle tearme the Gallatians the Church of Christ brethren Gal. 1. 2. receivers of the Spirit by the hearing of faith chap. 3. 2. the children of God by faith in Christ ver 26. spirituall chap. 6. 1. and so esteemeth them a right constitute Church not to be separated from howbeit they were in part removed from Christ to another Gospell Gal. 1. 8. bewitched foolish joyning circumcision and the workes of the Law with faith and so fallen from Christ Christ profiting them nothing fallen from grace running in vaine under the Law againe and not under Christ Gal. 5. 4 5 6 18. beginning in the Spirit ending in the flesh Gal. 3 3. if so I say then is it not lawfull to separate from a Church for the sinnes of the worshippers But the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition is clear because Pauls stiles which he giveth them make them the body and spouse of Christ and so it is not lawfull to separate from them Also Paul writeth to them as to the Church of Christ which is an acknowledged Church-communion 5. Argument If the Church of Ephesus be a true Church holding the candlesticke of Christ and Christs presence walking in it that su●fered for Christs name and fainted not Rev. 2. and yet had fallen from her first-love If Pergamus held the doctrine of Balaam and the Nicolaitans and murthered the Saints had Sathans throne amongst them ver 13. 14. If Thyatira suffered the woman Jezabel to seduce the servants of Christ. If Sardis had a name to live and was dead and her workes were not perfect before God If Laodicea turned cold indifferent and lukewarme in the matters of God and was ready to be spewed out at Christs mouth Then may a church remaine a true Church with a lawfull visible Ministry having power of the word seales and Church discipline as all these had and cannot be separated from except we would leave the candlesticke and Christ walking in the midst of the golden candlesticks 6. Argument If we are to beare long in patience and brotherly kindnesse with the most refractarie and stiffe-necked gainsayers and to preach to them and so keepe externall communion with them as Paul saith the servant of God must doe 2 Tim. 2. 24 25. much more owe we this to a whole Church which doth contumaciously suffer or defend a sinne and a sinner But the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition is proved If we owe patience and longanimity to one then farre more to a hundred five hundred ten hundred so Iohn Epist 3. ver 10 11. did beare with the Church wherein wickednesse was tollerated This argument is
was not amongst the Elders only but amongst all the beleevers neither were the Elders onely pussed up nor did they onely not sorrow that the incestuous man was not cut off but the bel●evers also were puffed up and did not sorrow that he was not cut ●ff Ergo all the beleevers had voices in iudging and excommunicating 2. Of old not the Levites onely were to purge out the leaven but all Israel also Ergo here not the Elders only are to purge out this leaven 3. Paul writeth not to the Elders onely not to be mixed with the fornicators but to all the faithfull 4. The faithfull and not the Elders only were to forgive 2 Cor. 2. Answ. I will first answer these reasons and withall shew how the people had hand in excommunication and might prove that there was a Presbytery of many Pastors at Corinth and not a single Congregation of one Pastor and some few Elders and beleevers who did excommunicate I retort these Arguments These with whom the fornicator did converse and so leavened them these who were pus●ed up and sorrowed not at the mans fall and at his not being cut off by excommunication these were judicially to excommunicate with the Elders But the fornicator conversed amongst beleeving women and children and did leaven them beleeving women and children were puffed up and sorrowed not Ergo Beleeving women and children did judicially excommunicate but the conclusion is foule and against the Argumentators Ergo so must some of the premisses be foule and false but the assumption is most true therefore their major proposition must be false therfore they must first acknowledge a representative Church with us and that men onely did judicially excommunicate and not all the faithfull except they make women ordinary Judges usurping the authority over men Then the number of these who were puffed up and sorrowed not at his fall c. must be more then the number of the persons who should judicially excommunicate 2. The authors of Presbyteriall govern exam say Elders are principally to iudge and to be leaders and first actors in excommunicating and people are to follow in the second roome and assent So say our Divines Walleus Bucanus Rollocus Beza Therefore Paul cannot rebuke private beleevers because they did not excommunicate judicially in the first roome for then Paul should have rebuked the Elders and leaders for not excommunicating in the order answerable to their place and power and because they did not judicially and authoritatively lead and goe before as first actors and prime moderators in the judiciall act of delivering of the man to Satan and so Paul cannot in reason rebuke all the faithfull amongst whom the scandalous man did converse and who were pus●ed up and sorrowed not at the mans fall because they did not excommunicate judicially at most they can be rebuked onely for not excommunicating in the second roome and in that orderly and subordinate way sutable to their place and power 3. I see no foot-step of any tollerable ground in the Text why it should be alleadged that all the faithfull men comming to age to speake nothing of beleeving women and children are rebuked for not excommunicating judicially the fornicator but rather the contrary that the faithfull out of office were not to excommunicate judicially For applying these words as a reproofe to beleeving men v. 2. And ye are pu●fed up and have not rather sorrowed that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the end that he that hath done this deed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 may be taken from amongst you He useth the passive verbe not the active whereby it appeareth that the beleevers were patients rather then agents in the not judiciall and authoritative taking away of the man from amongst them and that their fault was that they mo●ned not to God for the mans fall and the remisse negligence of the Elders by whose authority he might have been authoritatively delivered to Satan Pareus saith that he blameth the beleevers security Calvin their not being humbled at the fall and Cajetan they boasted that the fornicator was the sinner not they 4. That great Divine Junius doth excellently observe that Paul ioyneth himselfe as an extraordinary Elder with the ordinary Eldership of Corinth v. 4. When you are gathered together with my spirit For as I observed before Paul requireth not only that they be gathered together in the name of Christ which is required in all meetings for Gods worship in Prayers Word and Sacraments but also here he requireth that they meet saith he with my spirit that is with my Presbyteriall power of the keyes and 1 Cor. 4. 21. with the authority which the Lord hath given us for edification 2 Cor. 10. 8. as I am an Elder So said the Prophet to Gehazi 2 King 5. 26. went not my spirit with thee that is my Propheticall power Col. 2. 5. For though I be absent in the ●lesh yet I am present in spirit Now the beleevers out of office did not convene in this meeting indued with Pauls Ministeriall and Pastorall spirit for single beleevers receive not Ministeriall spirit from God neither is such a spirit promised to them Give an instance in Scripture of this promise and we shall lose this cause but this spirit for doctrine and discipline so given to Pastors 1 Cor. 4. 21. 2 Cor. 10. 8. Col. 4. 17. 2 Cor. 4. 1. 2 Cor. 5. 18. 1 Cor. 12 28 29. v. 17. therfore the comming together with Pauls spirit that is with his ministeriall power of the keyes as an Elder must be restrained to the Eldership of Corinth and cannot be applyed to single beleevers men women and children who yet were puffed up and sorrowed not v 2. therefore this is not a gathering together of an independent Congregation of beleevers men and women meeting with Pauls spirit and his presbyteriall power of the keyes in an authoritative and judiciall way to excommunicate but it must be a gathering together of these who had such a spirit and power pastorall and ministeriall as Paul had I deny not but the faithfull conveened or were to conveene in this meeting with the Eldership for praying and hearing the word preached which must be conjoyned with excommunication but the meeting is denominated pastorall and presbyteriall with spirituall power from the speciall intended end in that act which was authoritatively to deliver the fornicatour to Satan and Vrsine thinketh not without reason that the man was excommunicated and there being a space interveening betwixt Pauls writing of the first and his second Epistle to the Corinthians that Paul 2 Cor. 2. writeth for relaxing him from the sentence of excommunication Also Paul when he saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I have already iudged as present meaneth not a popular or private judging as we say the Physitian judgeth of the disease by the pulse and the Geometer judgeth of figures as Marsilius speaketh but understandeth a joynt authoritive judging with
the Eldership otherwayes he needed not to adde but present in spirit as if I were present have already iudged for whither hee had beene absent or present hee might have given his private minde of the due demerit of so scandalous a sinne 5. The maine thing that our brethren rest much on is that one command of delivering to Satan v. 4. and purging out the old leaven v. 7. and the word of judging that Paul taketh to himselfe v. 4. is given v. 12. to all beleevers and to all that he writeth unto but Paul would not say they command the beleevers to doe that which they had no authority and power from Christ to doe if all beleevers had not power judicially to excommunicate But I answer beside that this is to bring in a popular government in Gods house they consider not that they presuppose as granted what we justly deny that all and every verse of this chapter is spoken joyntly and equally to all both Elders and people which cannot in reason be said as in other parts of the epistle where sometimes he speaketh of all as 1 Cor. 1. 1 4 5. both pastors and people sometimes of the people 1 Cor. 1. 12. 1 Cor. 4. 1. sometimes of teachers only 1 Cor. 3. 12. 1 Cor. 4. 2. 2. One and the same word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to purge out the leaven v. 7. applied to both Elders and beleevers have divers meanings according as it is applied to divers subjects so that the Elders did excommunicate and purge out one way that is authoritatively and with Pauls spirit and ministeriall power I meane that same power in kinde and speech that was in Paul was in the Elders for Paul was no Prelate above other pastors and the people did purge out the leaven another way by a popular consenting that he should be excommunicate and this is well grounded on Scripture see Acts 4. 27 28. Herod Pilate Gentiles and Iewes crucified Christ now it is certaine they did not cruci●ie him one and the same way Pilate judicially the people of the Iewes in a popular way of asking and consenting crucified him so 1 Sam. 12. 18. All the people greatly feared the Lord and Samuell that same verbe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 jara to fear expresseth both the peoples fearing of God which is a religious feare commanded in the first Commandement and due to God only and the peoples fearing of Samuell which civill reverence given to Samuell as to a Prophet is a farre inferiour feare and commanded in the ●ift Commandement so Prov. 24. 21. My sonne feare the Lord and the King 1 Chro. 29. 20. And the people worshipped Jehovah and the King the verbe is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Shachah which signifieth to bow and encline the body religiously but the meaning cannot be that the people gave one and the same religious worship to God and the King for that should be idolatry So howbeit Elders and beleevers were rebuked for not excommunicating and both commanded to excommunicate and purge out the leaven it will never follow that both hath one and the same judiciall power to excommunicate but every one should purge out the leaven according to their place and power and Israel is commanded to put out the leper yet the Priest only put him out judicially and Israel is commanded to put to death the false Prophet and so to put away evill out of the midst of them Deut. 13. 5. and yet the Judge did put away evill judicially and authoritatively and the people as executioners stoning him to death v. 9 10. and what I say of excommunicating that same is said of the authoritative pardoning of the fornicatour 2 Cor. 2. for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as Vrsine observeth is by authority to confirme their love to him as Gal. 3. 15. the testament is confirmed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and so doth Kemnitius Calvin and Bullinger take the word It is also more then evident that the Church of Corinth was not a congregation of believers onely or a congregation with one pastor only and so not an independent congregation for there was at Corinth a colledge of pastors and so a presbytery of Elders Doctors teachers and Prophets for 1. Paul was but a founder of this Church there were many others that built upon the foundation Christ Jesus and some built gold and silver that is good and sound Doctrine some hay and stubble 1 Cor. 4. 6. And these things Brethren I have in a figure trans-ferred to my selfe and to Apollo for your sakes that ye might learne in us not to thinke of men above that which is written whence I collect howbeit Paul and Apollo and Cephas were not constantly resident teachers at Corinth yet there were other pastors there of whom Paul and Apollo were named as figures that with the lesse envy he might rebuke them and amongst these many teachers some said this is the best preacher others said nay but another preacher liketh my eare better and so there hath beene so many choise pastours there as the Proverbe was true amongst them Wealth maketh wit to waver which Paul sharply rebuketh as a schisme 1 Cor. 1. 12 13. 1 Cor 3. 4 5. So Paul saith Though ye have ten thousand and instructors yet have ye not many ●athers 1 Co● 4. 15. Then they had amongst them many teachers And it is 2. cleare from 1 Cor. 12. 14 15 16 17 28 29 30. that there were amongst them Apostles Prophets Doctors Governments or ruling Elders and that this fault was amongst them that the higher contemned the lower which is as if the eye should say I have no need of the hand and that they were not content of that place in Christs body while as they would all be pastors and all eyes and so where then were the hearing v. 17. and to these especially Paul directed his re●uke 1 Cor. 5. because of their neglect of discipline against scandalous persons not excluding the multitude of believers who also in their kind deserved to be rebuked 3. We may see 1 Cor. 14. There was amongst them a good number of Prophets who both propheeyed two or three after other by co●●e and who also by the power of the keyes did pu●lickly judge of true and false doctrine v. 29. which is indeed our presbytery See v. 1 2 3. v. 12 13. v. 24 25 26. so that it is a wonder to me that any learned men should think that the Church of Corinth was one single and independent congregation a●d that they met all in one house where ● the Lord had much people 2. where we are not to thinke in such a plentifull harvest of Christ that so many pastors and teachers and so many Apostles and Prophets as there were there as you may gather from 1 Cor. 14. 24 31 32. and so many speaking with divers tongues so many who wrought miracles so many who had the gift of discerning ver 26 27. that all these were
knowne three wayes 1. When the naked naturall images or species of the materiall object are only cast in by God and no more and this is most in dreames as Nebuchadnezar saw a tree in his dreame but knew not that it was a King Pharoah saw seven blasted reeds and seven leane kine but knew not that they were seven yeares of Famine And sometimes in a vision being in an extasie as John Rev. 1. saw 1. seven candl●sticks but knew not that they were the seven Churches of Asia while Christ revealed the meaning to him 2. The images and species are knowne formally as signes signifying thus and thus as Joseph by a propheticall light saw the seven leane kine to be seven yeares of famine 3. Now there is a third light to judge of the act of seeing which I take to be two-fold 1. When the Seer and Prophet is perswaded that what he seeth is a propheticall vision and not a delusion of Satan this is as saith Pareus the very light of prophecy or some extraordinary light as saith Anto Walleus There is another light whereby the Seer beleeveth these things shall come to passe which he seeth either by a common light of historicall faith as Pharoah might beleeve that seven yeares of plenty should come and Balaam that Christ the starre of Jacob should certainly arise and shine upon the Church or the Seer seeth and beleeveth by light of saving faith as Isaiah and Daniel beleeved that the Messiah should be slai●e and this latter light whatever good Schoole-men say on the contrary is the light of faith for the three former lights might well be in Balaam 1. He might see in his fantasie the species of the starre of Jacob. 2. And know that they meaned no other thing then the Messiah 3. And be certainly perswaded that he saw so and that he was not deluded yea and historically beleeve that that blessed Starre should arise and yet he had no light of saving faith to beleeve that the Messiah should come So h●●e we cannot but distinguish betwixt a propheticall light in the second and third sight which is gratia gratis data a free gift and the light of saving faith which is gratia gratum fa●iens a saving grace of GOD in the sound beleever onely in this last sight 4. Conclus Hence Separatists may see that extraordinary acts of prophecy may well be subjected to the determination of the Church and yet be extraordinary inspirations and that divers wayes 1. Because the● were Prophets of the New Testament and so grace being more aboundant now nor under the old Testament it can bow and facilitate free-will to acts of prophecying and Paul from more grace laboured more aboundantly then they all 2. Prophecying at that time in Corinth might well be obtained by prayer upon the extraordinary impulsion of the spirit as Daniel obtained by prayer the interpretation of a dreame neither can it be proved from 1 Cor. 14. that Paul willeth them all without exception to covet to speake with tongues and to prophecy but only these that were extraordinarily moved to pray except these v. 31. yea may all prophecy be contrary to these words 1 Cor. 12. 29. are all Prophets which we cannot say 3. Because it was of old in the power of Prophets to use some meanes to dispose themselves to prophecy for when the passion of anger overclouded the fancy and the species therin then Elisha calleth for a minstrell to play and dispose the minde better as Ca●etan saith Howbeit for all that the Text saith the hand of the Lord only actuated these species and caused him to prophecy Neither are Robinsons arguments of great weight I answer only these that have most apparency 1 If the Lords giving of the spirit extraordinary to Eld●d and Medad made them Prophets both in office and exercise by due proportion gifts under the New Testament are sufficient to make men ordinary Prophets Answ. The antecedent is false because to Eldad and Medad were given both the spirit of prophecy and from that gifted spirit came a propheticall impulsion actually to prophecy without any farther call of the Church for God spake then by impulsion as he doth now by his Word els one may say the physicall and naturall power that Samuell had to kill Agag was a calling sufficient to authorize him to kill ●gag and an hability to discharge the office of the high-Priest in a man of the tribe of Iudah were a good calling for one so gifted to thrust himselfe in Aarons chair which God tyed only to Levies Tribe 2. This is that which Epi●copius Se●inians and Arminians teach from Anabaptists so The●phil Nicolai● And Radaecius Catech. of Raccovia Ostorod Socinus the 〈◊〉 1. That the sending and calling of Ministers by the Church n●w when the Gospell is sufficiently promulgated is not necessary 2. That any gifted man hath a warrant because he is gifted to be a Pastour without any call or authority officiall from the Church And what will Robinson say because these Prophe●s are gifted to baptize and to administer the Supper of the Lord as well as they are to preach the Gospell then by this goodly reason of his they may be pastors without any calling of the Church and certainly any man gifted to be a King and a Magistrate by the calling that the Word of God alloweth sh●ll by this reason have a call to leape up to the throne and the bench but our Divines as Calvin Parcus Zanchius Iunius Beza make two dif●e●rent things in a lawfull calling 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 gifts for the calling which is not enough 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 authority from the Church which is also required 2. He objecteth 2 Chron. 17. 7. Jehoshaphat sent his Princes to teach the cities of Judah with the Levites and all Princes and Ma●istrates are bound to expound open up and apply the law by which they governe else they rule by tyranny Hence the publick Sermon of Jehoshaphat 2 Chron. 19. to the Iudges and Levites and his prayer and Hezekiahs Sermons 2 Chr 29. and Nehemiah taught the people Neh. 8. Answ. 1. Iunius and Ar. Mont●● Iehoshaphat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Shalach Lesarou read he sent with the Princes the Levites to teach so that the Princes were not sent to teach 2. It is said hee sent the Princes to teach not in their owne persons but hee sent them to take care that the Levites should teach in time of that Apostacy 3. The Kings and Judges were to teach according to the judiciall Law the equity of their sentence to the ill doer as a Judge to convince a thiefe and a murtherer may lay before him the eighth and the sixt commandement in so farre as the breach of these disturbeth the peace of the common-wealth not as they are Church scandals and whither the male-factor be convinced or not the Judge punisheth with the sword so that
the Ministers of the Church but two or three have power to make a Church Ergo two or three faithfull ones have power to make the Ministers of a Church He proveth the major They who can doe the greater can doe the lesse to make a Church is greater for the Church is the Body Spouse and Wife the Ministers are but an ornament of the body and so the lesse The assumption he proveth two or three faithfull ones have Christ the holy things of David the promises Ergo two or three have power to make a Church Answ. These who can make a Church mysticall have power to make a Church ministeriall or Ministers of a Church that I deny As for the probation this proposition These who can doe the greater can doe the lesse must be right taken It is true in these same kind of works and in the same kind of power Christ can forgive sinnes Ergo he can doe lesse he can say to a sicke man take up thy bed and walke So if by prayer Jacob obtaine a blessing from God which is greater then by prayer he will obtaine deliverance out of the hands of Esau which is lesse but in powers of divers kinds it holdeth not true A beleever by prayer may obtaine grace and perseverance which is greater but it followeth not Ergo hee can open the eyes of the blind and worke miracles which is lesse and therefore howbeit three can make a mysticall Church which is greater by a power of saving grace which is gratia gratum faciens It followeth not that therefore they have a ministeriall and pastorall power of the keyes which is gratia gratis data to preach and make Ministers For then because Mary Magdalen hath power to beleeve that Christ buried shall rise againe from the death which is greater therefore she hath power to preach and baptize which is a lesser power He who hath power to make a ship hath not for that power to make a cup. 11. Smith reasoneth thus These who have the true matter and forme have the property which ariseth from the matter and forme that is Christs ministeriall power to assume all the meanes of their edification to salvation but two or three faithfull ones are the true matter of the Church of the New Testament and therefore have the true forme or covenant of the New Testament and so have a ministeriall power arising from these two Answ. These who have the true matter and forme of a mysticall Church of beleevers these have the union and property of a mysticall Church resulting from matter and forme is most true but they have not for that the true property of a ministeriall Church faith and the covenant written in the heart is not the forme of a ministeriall Church but of a mysticall Church of beleevers Sixe borne Scottish men dwelling in Paris make a body of Scottish men but they are not for that a politicke body of Scottish men living according to the Lawes of Scotland Foure beleevers are a mysticall Church borne over againe by the Spirit of Christ but if they be no more but single beleevers they are not for that a ministeriall Church which is necessarily a politicke body governed by Christs Lawes consisting of shepheard and flocke But this man will have three beleevers because they are beleevers to be Ministers and so taketh away all vocation and ordination of Church-officers by the Churches authority which is flat Anabaptisme CHAP. XVIII Certaine Quaeres anent independencie of Congregations Quaere 1. IF the independencie of Congregations stand whether or no is a Democracie and the actuall government of the Church in the peoples hands I answer affirmatively seeing calling ordination censuring depriving and judiciall excommunication of Church-guides are in their hand I see not what they want and wherein Morellius erred 2. Quaere Seeing hence it followeth that single beleevers are to pray publikely and exhort publikely and authoritatively convince gainsayers at the ordination and deprivation of Pastors if they may not also publikely preach and administer the Sacrament I answer If you give to single beleevers one pastorall Act you may with the like weight of reason give to them all 3. Whether or no is a ministery necessary in a visible Church I answer seeing all these eminent acts of the Pastorall charge by an ordinary power may be performed by single beleevers I cannot see any necessity of a Ministery 4. Whether or no then is every mysticall Church of beleevers because it is such a ministeriall Church having the keyes both in use and power I answer The former doctrine standing it is 5. If every one borne of God be not by that birth borne also a Key-bearer to open and shut Heaven I answer he is 6. If hence a Senate of Elders who laid on hands at ordination of Ministers 1 Tim. 4. 14. 1 Tim. 5. 22. Acts 6. 6. be not then quite out of the Church I answer in Churches independent it is quite gone 7. If then all beleevers as well as the Apostles and Paul Timothy and Titus are not to lay hands on Pastors Answer no doubt they are but precept or practise therfore in the Apostolike Church I see none 8. If the doctrine of refusing Baptisme to Infants whose nearest parents are not one of them at least beleevers doth not inferre that such a Church where they are baptized is a false Church in the matter and so in its constitution false Hence I leave it to be answered by authors of independencie if they should not separate from such a Church 9. Seeing we judge Papists cruell in excluding from glory unbaptized Infants when election and reprobation hath place in Infants not borne Rom. 9. v. 11. If we can judge Infants borne of nearest parents unbeleevers as the children of Pagans Turks without the Covenant and if the sins of one unbeleeving Father where many foregoing generations have been lovers of God and keepers of his Commandements doth exclude the Infants from the Covenant made with these beleeving forefathers Answ. We are to judge them in no Covenant with God by the former doctrine Hence we require that places of Scripture where God is said to shew mercy on a wicked race of people Yea whose nearest parents were most wicked rejectors of Gods Covenant and that for the Covenant made with Abraham as Joshuah 5. 3 4 5 6 7 8. Ezech. 20. v. 8 9 10. v. 18 19 20 21 22. Psal. 106. 6 7 8 9. and v. 10 11 12 13 14 c. v. 44 45 46. may be considered 10. If children laden with iniquity and the seed of evill-doers Isa. 1. 4. doth beget in the visible Church a generation which is no more holy with externall and federall holinesse th●n Indians and ●artarians who never heard of Christ And seeing such a generation hath by the former grounds no right to the meanes of salvation we aske with what faith we can keep any Church-communion with such yea how the Gospell can be
Master of the art of painting or pourtract-making the art onely is subject to the precepts and principles of art but the person of the painter is subject to the kingly power for the King as Bellarmin saith may forbid the Image-maker to draw obscene and filthy Images or to waste too much gold or silver upon his Images or to sell his images at too deare a price Hence saith he the kingly dignity is not subject to the ecclesiasticall power or to any other power on earth but only to Jesus Christ. I answer the Prelate doth well difference in the art of paintry these two 1. That which is artificiall and is only ruled by art that the King cannot command another thing which is morall as that he sell not his Images too deare and hurt not the common wealth by spending vainly too much gold and silver on his Images and in this the King may make lawes to limit the Painters morall carriage but then he and his fellowes honour not the King who call him judge over all persons and of all causes or in all causes and that without any distinction for when two Shoomakers contend about a point of tanning leather the King is not Judge in that cause because it is a point of art which belongeth to the art not the King Also the right translation of the Bible out of the Hebrew and the Greeke in the vulgar language is a cause meerly ecclesiasticall belonging to the Church Assembly it were hard to make the King being ignorant of these mother languages the Judge of that version as he is made by them Judge in all causes ecclesiasticall howbeit de jure he is a politick Judge even in this judging by a coactive and kingly power howbeit de facto and through ignorance he cannot exercise the kingly power that God hath given him in this act 2. By this comparison the Prelate putteth upon the King ●ut a course peece of country honour O faith he as King I make him above all and subject to no power in Heaven or Earth but immediately to God forsooth so make you the Painter the Shoomaker the Fashioner subject to no power in Heaven and Earth no not to the King but only immediately to God only their persons are subject to the King and so is the person of the King as a Christian man not as a King subject to Pastors who may exhort him and rebuke him when he judgeth unjustly But 3. saith the Prelate The wounded Emperour is subject to his servant the Physitian who cureth him not as Emperour but as a wounded man and that of his owne free-will and not by coaction What meaneth this not by coaction but that a King neither as King neither as a Christian man is subject to Church-discipline to the admonition of Pastors by any ecclesiasticall coaction or any law of God but of the Kings owne free-will Consider how Court-parasites doe dishonour the Lord for if Nathan by Gods commandement was obliged to rebuke David for his adultery and murther and the man of God obliged to cry against Jeroboams Altar and the Seer obliged to reprove King Asa and Jeremiah commanded to speake against the Kings and Princes of the land and if the Kings of Israel and Judah were plagued of God because they would not heare and submit to the Prophets speaking to them in the name of the Lord then the King as a Christian man is subject to the Ecclesiasticall power not of his owne free-will as this flatterer saith but by such Ecclesiasticall coaction as God layeth upon all men whose spirits are subject to Christs kingly power 4. This comparison halteth fowlely In the art of paintry ye may abstract that which is morall from that which is artificiall but in a King as a King there is nothing artificiall or which is to be abstracted from justice and piety for all the acts of kingly authority as kingly are morall acts of justice and of piety in preserving both the Tables of the Law if a King command a stratagem of war that which is meerly artificiall is not from the King as King but from a principle of military art in him as an expert souldier if then the King as King be a morall agent and a preserver of both Tables then as King he is subject to the Ecclesiasticall power 5. Spalato faileth farre in making the end of kingly government a naturall end not life eternall as the end of sayling is the desired harbour and not the kingdome of Heaven which is l●fe eternall nay but if we speake either of the end of the worke or the end of the worker the end of kingly power is a morall end for the end of the worke called finis operis is by Paul said to be that we may lead a quiet and a peaceable life in all godlinesse and honesty and this is de iure also finis operantis the end which the Ring is to intend and so the dignity office acts and end of the King as the King is subordinated to Christs kingly power in Church-discipline and yet he is the most supreme politicke power on earth and in eo genere solo Deo minor and above the Pastors in that kind But doe we joyne with Papists in this 1. Papists say Kings hold their Crownes of the Pope the Church universall virtually We thinke Nero had not his kingdome from Peter nor Domitian and Traian their kingdome from Clemens and Anacletus nor Hadrian from Enaristus and Alexander 2. Innocentius 3d. forbad obedience to Emperours Bonifacius 8● for hatred of King Philip of France forbad to pay tribute to the Emperors the Devill might blush to lay that upon us 3. Was there ever amongst us the like of their 8 generall Councell A Prelate shall not light off his horse nor bow to a King nor shall a King seeke that of a Bishop under the paine of two yeares excommunication 4. Did any of us thinke or write what Bellarmine hath spoken against the Lords anointed If Princes cannot be moved by Church-censures and if the necessity of the Church require the Pope shall free their subiects from obeying them ipsisque principatus abrogabit and shall pull their Princedome from them I say no more of this CHAP. XX. Q. 20. Whether or no the government of the Church of Scotland can be proved by Gods Word to be lawfull 1. ARTICLE Of the Doctrine and worship of the Church of Scotland WE acknowledge the Scriptures of God contained in the Old and New Testament to containe the whole doctrine of faith and good manners our Covenant rejecteth all traditions contrary without and beside the word of God and so it rejecteth all religious observances all humane Ceremonies all religious symbolicall signes all new meanes of worshipping God all Images positive Rites which have any influence in Gods worship as will-worship and impious additions to Gods word Jer. 7. 7. 2 Sam. 7. 7. Deut. 12.