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A33521 A word to the upright for help and preservation in these erring dayes by errours detected, in a book, called, A testimony for the truth, Christ and his light, by some that go by the name of Quakers, wherein they manifest their foundation for salvation, which they call, the Christ of God / by him who seeks the well-fare of all men, Robert Cobbet. Cobbet, Robert. 1668 (1668) Wing C4775; ESTC R40844 31,405 34

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helper which is Christ in whom the Covenant of Grace that God hath made to man by Christs blood being incorporated God hath promised to send it forth as the prisoner of hope that is in the deep pit in which there is no waters Behold I shew you a mystery ye men in the Clouds Christ whom God hath sealed by the anointing for a Saviour being the product of the Holy Ghost to a coagelated substance from the properties of man in Mary is that holy thing the anointed in the womb that was born free whom 't was not possible for death to with-hold who being without sin had not that body of death that could be with-held by death but because the Children had the body of death he that was the Lord from Heaven having flesh of life laid down his life to wit his body into our dead bodies that we that were dead might live as said thy dead men shall rise with my dead body But this Lord Jesus through the guile of most of your Leaders is deny'd and Jesus being thus the Creation of God is the only begotten of the Father whom the Disciples saw and bore record unto who being the Fathers delight whom he foresaw from Everlasting that he would send when the fulness of time was come promiseth to him that the spirit should rest upon him to make him of a quick understanding the spirit of wisdom and counsel of might and knowledge and the fear of the Lord who being indued with the vertue of God by which he poured out his soul unto God in which travel knew of his justifying of many touching the body of our Lord this is the matter you know he saith that he proceeded from Heaven and that his flesh was meat indeed and his blood was drink indeed and that he would give his flesh for the life of the world and he that eates his flesh and drinks his blood hath Eternal Life which body of our Lord being of the Heavenly substance as it was circumscribed was the body of his personality that he gave for an offering for the Ransom of the world which body being of and from the nature of Heaven he gave it that we by it may have an interest through that body into the Heavens the Kingdome the Father hath prepared for them that love him and do believe on him whom God hath sent Thus have I given you an account of Jesus as to his Body Soul and Spirit who as he thus consisted was that form of God and express Image of his Fathers Substance whose day the Patriarchs and Prophets saw in the Spirit and rejoyced to see with whom the Apostles being conversers with bore witness to him who is the truth and to such a one confession was made in all ages by the believers till the coming of George Fox and his Disciples and being found in form and fashion as a man gave up his life into the grave of death by which he broke open the grave of eternal death by which he overcame him that had the power of death that is the Devil and delivered his Children from out of the Eternal Death by which they was held in bondage all their life long whence is that saying O Death where is thy Grave O Sin where is thy Sting O Hell where is thy Victory For know that the death of the Lord was a Revolution a passing out or through the principle of this visible world into the principle of the invisible world where saith Paul He now is an Advocate for man with God and being gone out of the visible into the invisible as he was in the visible I know him so no more but as man is brought into the invisible where he is there I have seen him and so did John Paul and Stephen Now God being in this man Christ as declared Christ is that God-man in his own person that hath brought again the dead to life Page the fifth Querie about Christ being Formity as if King was his humane body equal with God when in that body said My Father is greater then I Brethren we have proved before the personality of Christ and that he was the express Image of God in his person and since that you know that it is written that God at sundry times and in divers manners spake to the Fathers and Prophets but now saith he speaks to us by his Son on whose shoulders the Government for our peace should lie whom God hath made heir of all things who when he had by himself purged away our sins for that he was made a little lower then the Angels for the suffering of death that by his tasting of death for every man he might bring many Sons unto Glory for that it became him for whom are all things and by whom are all things to make the Captain of our Salvation perfect by sufferings by which dispute 't is out of doubt 't was Christ he spake of as he was in that form wherein he suffered death and not the light that is a principle of a diffusive property for the light is not his equal that he saith is his fellow to whom he said Sit thee at my right hand till I make thy enemies thy foot-stool but of him he saith Thy Throne O God is from Everlasting to everlasting the Scepter of thy Kingdom is a Scepter of Righteousness and of thy Rule there shall be no end and for his equallity with his Father it must be allowed for that it saith That having fulfilled the work that his Father gave him to do which was the finishing of mans Salvation ascended up unto the Throne of his Glory that God promised to him as his reward for the Redemption of man according to that that was the will of God But in that he said My Father is greater then I He speaks there as he was in his Servants state who while there stood differed nothing from a Servant though Lord of All for then he had not accomplished mans redemption which was the end for which he was sent into the world but having done the will by finishing mans Redemption takes the Throne of the Everlasting Kingdom that to him was promised and sits him down at the right hand of God in the Majesty on high where he is Gods fellow Now then is the confusion on my part who write to you the truth or on yours that deny the truth but if you will blind-fold your own understandings and trample the Pearle under your feet and turn again and rend me you shall be rebuked of God Now having cleared my self to you before God and my Lord and Master Jesus Christ if you will not receive it your destruction is of your selves Page the sixth Charge me with contradiction in saying Christ hath begotten us Children to God by his spirit and that by it he hath put us into a capacity to take of the waters of life and to drink freely in that I say that as to our Redemption it
was come and then made under the Law made of a woman for the end that we by him might be made the Adoption of Sons wherefore ye children of men know that the Scriptures declares not to any other for Christ then to him the man Christ Jesus our Lord in whom the fulness of the Godhead dwelt bodily which God-head is the Divine Nature therefore your Opinion of his appearing for a manifestation to his inward and spiritual appearance and not for a Saviour for lost man is a mistake of a dangerous concernment and having so fraudulently corrupted the truth by a question that if Christ consists of Body Soul and Spirit what consisted his Soul and Spirit of Was that his body he recommended up unto his Fathers hand Art thou a Preacher and to seek what is Spirit and what is soul and what is Body and yet wilt be a Preacher of immortal things knows thou not how God hath tempered the Creature together and how that man consists by make from nature of eternity and of time from the eternal nature his Spirit and Soul and from the temporary nature his body do not presume for you have not the knowledge of the truth But dost thou ask if the Lords spirit was his body which he recommended into his Fathers hands Friends had your Preachers not been in confusion they had without doubt not writ so confusedly and manifested themselves so weak to ask so ignorant a question but for the truth sake I shall explain the soul of man is a spark of Gods Eternal Nature coagulated into a Spiritual substance for a center of his insensitive life and as thus compacted is a Creature of an Eternal being of an own self-subsisting consistency and having its abode in the life of time is capable to be corrupted by infection from the life of time but the Soul having the noble understanding in it which men call reason may by its spirit that is its will and understanding reject the infection of time by repelling it from penetrating it as it stands resigned unto the life of the Divine Nature which at first God breathed into it by which it became a living soul which being by it lost by letting into it self the Serpents poyson from the assault of the devil fell from the Divine Nature into corruptible time and consequently into death but God purposing to renew man unto the life of light promises the Seed of the Woman for a breaker of the Serpents head saying by the Prophet that he would not for ever contend with man for that his spirit would fail before him and the soul that he had made And do not we poor empty creatures find in our own souls the anguish of darkness when we are distrest for want of the shining face of God to beam upon our souls and when his glances inspires us by penetrating through our souls how full of joy is our hearts I need not write to the experienced but will appeal unto thee that hath been afflicted and tossed and made drunk with the cup of trembling from the Lord who walked in darkness and sawest no light in the day of thy spiritual distress whether the light that was in thy conscience gave thee thy assurance of thy salvation or the breaking forth of his most marvellous light that apprehended thee ere thou was aware and did not the light in thy conscience before this day of God broke forth in thy soul condemn thee in all that ever thou didst whoever thou art that hast known the pangs of the new birth and the adoption to the eternal life I know thou must bear witness for me that I write the truth for I ask thee was it not the complaint of the Children of God from old thou hidst thy face and I was troubled and prayed Lord shew us the light of thy countenance for thou by it shall make us more glad then they that by Oyl and Wine great increase have had and was it not and is it not so with thee at this present day I say if it be not look to thy self for thou art fallen asleep and hast lost thy first Love wherefore it saith tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that hath sinned and the soul that sinneth shall dye which puts it out of doubt of the creaturality of the Soul for the life of God could never dye but the soul of man died from it as 't is said You are dead in your sins and trespasses for Gods life is the unchangeable life and doth endure for ever which life was in Christ and to whom Christ gives it unto it is in them and is the light of man which light of life the world receives not for that this life that gives man to see into the deeps of God is revealed unto man by inspiration of Gods Spirit as said the spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God which the world cannot receive because they believe not on him whom God hath sent for a Saviour of the world and for that cause they are carnal which life of God is not nor cannot be comprehended by any thing nor in any thing for although it be in the Lord yet is it one with it self as it is out of the Lord and as it is one with it self out of the Lord so is it one with it self in the Lord for that it is his spirit and the fulness that fills all in all but mans spirit being a comprehensible Creature is not infinite but finite and that is not it that searcheth the deep things of God as it is a created spirit but in that it is created for an instrument in the hand of God as God useth it in the hand of his spirit it doth search the inmost parts of his belly as it is written We are co-workers with Christ And for the soul of Christ that God would not leave in Hell that was of and from the soul-like properties of mans nature as Christ consists personally from his Mother Mary and had it not been in kind of the nature of mans soul it had little availed man what Christ had done by offering his soul an offering for sin Thus have you it explained to you what is mans soul as also that it is a creature in being of and from Gods Eternal Nature which nature being superiour to the elementary sense hath that potent understanding in it self which men calls reason which understanding hath having in it an eye to discern into mans deeps is the spirit of man that God put into man in the day of his Creation which being of the principle of light is a creatural spirit from the principle of light as a spark of that nature and as it is a spark it is a formed spirit into a creature and thence is comprehended as a creature which having lost its life by the transgression of the man as to God is dead and not capable to break the bands of the soul without a
is alone by purchase made from his sufferings and death Friends to you I appeal is this a contradiction to declare that Christ is the Author of our Salvation for that he hath Redeemed us to it by the sufferings of his body and the dispenser of it by his spirit according to promise Friends your selves be my Judge But these envious men to drown the truth would ●…ast me to deceive you that you may not see the truth but for me it matters not what they say of me but for you that you are not bewitcht from obeying the faith for if the spirit of Christ in the believers heart is not Christ much less the light in conscience That every man is inlightened withall that comes into the world is Christ And for your information view the Apostles strait which was whether to go out of the body or to stay in the body who resolves it that for his own behalf 't was better for him that he went out of the body but for them that he staid here and his reason that while he was in the body he was absent from the Lord but when out of the body he should be present with the Lord which if the light be Christ he had the light while in the body for the Life and Power of Christ was his Arm and Strength by which he preacht the Gospel of mans peace to Jew and Greek wherefore it is evident that the light is not Christ by what he saith while in the body I am absent from the Lord and for that cause longed to be dissolved to be present with the Lord which proves to you that where the Scriptures speaks of Christ within us the hope of Glory they speak but of the Soveraignty of Christ in the gift of his spirit which Paul to the Galatians at large doth prove for saith he My little Children for whom I travel in birth till Christ again be formed in you which words he refers to the receiving of the spirit upon the hearing of the word preacht of faith and asketh them whether they received the spirit by the works of the Law or by the hearing of faith which faith they being fallen from by corrupting preaching travels to bring them back again to it by their obedience in their duty of faith which is that he saith My little Children for whom I travel in birth till Christ again be formed in you Go to be not deceived God cannot be mocked but obey from the heart the word of faith to the saving of your souls and come down from your exalted Mountains who say you are beyond faith and be not of them that draw back to perdition departing from the faith of him that hath called you for the mystery Brethren that was hid from Ages and Generations which God hath made known unto his Saints is God manifested in flesh seen of Angels believed on in the world caught up unto Glory therefore thou who ever thou art that knoweth the truth and art a Child of the truth whether the Authours of the paper called An Answer to R. C. his paper doth know the truth or have the spirit of truth since that no man that hath the spirit of Christ calleth Jesus accursed therefore the assertion that tells you you are to wait upon the light within you for the Christ and the power of it for your Saviour is asserting of another Christ then what the Scriptures have declared to be Christ and asserting of another Gospel then what the Scriptures have taught to be the Gospel both to Jew and Gentile for according to what they declared to be Christ is him that was born of the Virgin Mary begotten by the Holy Ghost suffered by Pontius Pilate the Gospel that he died for our sins and was buried and rose again the third day for our justification therfore that although Christ manifesteth his love in our hearts yet the manifestation is not the Author of the Salvation for that it is not the price but the Gospel what declared to wit his sufferings and death and to that the Apostles preacht and not to the light within as you falsly assert and direct the people to believe the Scriptures in this matter is our judge and let me tell you that if the fixity of mans salvation stands not in the purpose of God by what Christ did for the world by his body of flesh man is at this day in a miserable state and if the feeling the motions of power is my iustification and salvation then no longer then I feel the motions of life am I justified or have salvation and if so then this ●our saved and the next damn'd which Doctrine centers not man upon Christ but upon works and makes faith of none effect and nulls the Gospel of our peace Page the seventh Querie if the mind ought not to be drawn from waiting within it self for the manifestation of God in it self say you what must it wait in must it not wait in the light Christ within wherewith every man is enlightened that comes into the world First let me tell you your Question is ill grounded its foundation being but your own Opinion and not the Scriptures bottom nor it according to experience of faith for as I have told you the light the world is enlightned with is not the light that the believers possess by gift of Christ from faith on his Redemption but a light of reason man hath as man is a rational Creature from which his light hath knowledge of good or bad as also knowledge from his light to eschew evil and to do good in the doing either of which stands his wo or peace but the light that is of grace is the receiving of the spirit of Christ that doth give power to become the Sons of God which the world he said could not receive the reason because that they believed not on me therefore the world not having the spirit cannot wait in the spirit and indeed how should they wait in that they never had therefore the light in man being but the light of man as man is a rational Creture sinking into it for the manifestation of the salvation that comes from grace by Covenant from God by Jesus Christ is a Doctrine that turns away the Creature from Christ the Redeemer ●o a propertie of nature wherein can be no saving health and against the commandment that saith Thou shalt not make to thy self the likeness of any thing in the Heavens above nor in the Earth beneath and the irrationalness of this Doctrine is apparent for that the principle of light being that that God hath formd is not God nor hath it the power to give the spirit to make the comers thereunto perfect for the light in conscience being a property of man as man is a creture is not more in its innate quality then that light God hath form'd as he is the Word and Creator and its office in mans soul is not appointed for to
be spoken against and is not this Child the Babe born of Mary which saith Luke grew and waxed strong in spirit filled with wisdom and the Grace of God was upon him Blush you Atheistical and notional men that for a covering to your errours for that the Scriptures of truth rebukes you to shame for to hide your selves in your fallaciousness say that Christ was him that was in the person Jesus but at length through the Grace of God for the sake of his Son who is the truth you have unmasked your selves for a gloss tell us Israel drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them which Rock was Christ not distinguishing him as he was the word that made the all things from his capacity as he became flesh for Redemption of all things and thence being deceived deceive but we tell you that the Word who would become man in Christ became the arm and strength to Moses who he chose to be the Angel of his presence that saved them saved them by the hand of Moses from destruction from Pharoah and his Host by which bringing to them deliverance from the waves of the Sea and showing them his power by destroying the Aegyptian force obliged them to the obedience to Moses that God had made the Captain of their Host who being saved by his so wonderful power rejoyced in their salvation and sang the Song of Moses the Angel of Gods presence unto the Glory of God who was their Rock of power in his invisible strength being their salvation they drank of its salvation which obliged them to Moses and this is the meaning of the Apostle in his directing his Discourse to the Church which word of God being become our Redeemer in Christ as he saved Israel by the Angel of his presence from destruction of the waves and Pharoah's wrath to the intent they might possess the Land that he to Abraham had promised who being by what he appeared to Moses without the Creture type to himself what he would be in Christ within the Creture that as he led Israel by the hand of Moses into the Canaan Land to possess the fruits of this life figured to himself what he would bring his children unto by Christ in the City of God which was typ't by Israels Canaan of Rest But what shall be said to the scoffing Saducse more then that the stone that the builders refuse is become the chief corner stone and the head of the building But what makes this for your Opinion that the light in the conscience is Christ the light in their conscience saved them not neither is it said that they drank of the light Christ in conscience but of the rock that followed them which rock was Christ and if that the light in conscience could either have saved them out of the destruction of Pharoah and his Host they needed not the Angel of Gods presence Moses and the rock that followed them for their help likewise if the light in the conscience could have saved the world from sin there had been no need for God to have sent his Son the love of his bosom to dye for the world that they might be saved who being the promised one that God to Adam made when he said The Seed of the Woman shall break the Serpents head Is He the Lord and Saviour and not another but in that I am not ignorant of the strange conceptions that you have of the Seed and as monstrously speak of it am willing to present you with the truth you know that it is written That the Seed of the Woman shall break the Serpents head and the Scriptures declare that that Seed is Christ to whom the Covenant was made by God as written My Covenant shall be unto thee and unto thy Seed and to thy Seeds Seed so long as Sun and Moon shall endure who being the Seed promised it saith That if the Lord had not left us a Seed we had been as Sodom and Gomorrah who being him that was promised to Abraham that should come of his flesh came of his flesh from his Liniage of the Lines of Mary who being that holy thing that was begotten by the Holy Ghost of his Mother Mary for the Saviour saveth man from their sins through his sufferings and death to whom the Law Psalms Prophets and Apostles declares unto as their writings at large doth shew who being him that God promis'd for the Messiah that should save his people Israel from the hands of all their Enemies that they being delivered from fear might serve him all the dayes of their life and Christ being him to whom the promised are made in him they are Yea and Amen and Christ being the Seed God promised to Adam for his Salvation and his Seed the Word incorporates himself with and in that Christ that by that Christ salvation may be brought to light who being his power by which Christ repell'd the tempter with his temptation when tempted by him when led for that end into the wilderness and was his strength to undergo the wrath of God when he drank the Cup of his wrath and sustained him upon the Cross by whom he offered up his body unto death upon the Cross for reconciliation by whom he the word that reconciled the world unto himself by himself as it is written God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself not imputing to them their sins and Christ the Serpent breakers head God makes a promise unto that his children that he should beget by his power unto God should be concerned in the Covenant of life and peace in the Kingdom that he prepared for him who knowing who they were that believed on him prays his Father that he would keep them by his own name saying that while he was with them he had kept them but going to the Father from his children saith Father I pray not for the world but for those that thou hast gave me out of the world for they have loved me and have kept my word and believe that I came down from thee and that thou hast sent me and not for these alone but for those also that shall believe on me through their word which the parable he speaks doth clear for saith he the Seed of the Kingdom sown in the heart is the word and he that sows it is the Son of man and the children begotten by the word are the Seed of the Kingdom canst thou believe that thy eye may be inlightned to see the truth if so it be thy portion thou wilt see I have told thee the truth for it is written Thou art my Son This day have I begotten thee that thou shouldst be the light of the Gentiles and the glory of the people Israel who being begotten by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin his Mother Mary is and was that Seed of the Woman the breaker of the Serpents head So my conclusion is that the Seed Christ that is the Saviour is Christ in
it a wrong done to you when you say that the light in conscience that every man is enlightened with that comes into the world is Saviour Advocate Redeemer Mediator and Christ as your Book wrote to Priests and Professors as you term them to scorn called The Great Mistery of the Great Whore doth frequently declare this being your assertion and that we have no Redemption by what done for man by Christ and that he died not for a Saviour but for an Example by what he did in doing the requirings of the Law that as he did by himself fulfill all righteousness according to the requirings of the Law so was he only our example that if we for our selves fulfil not the law we have no salvation by him by what he hath done suffered these being your principles your own confessions shall be my justifier that I have not wronged you in saying you center in Nature instead of Grace but in that the Covenant of Grace that God hath made for man in Christ which God calls his new Covenant stands upon the blessing of blessedness God not imputing to men their sin being that foundation for salvation to which the will of God is our obedience of faith as said Christ to his Disciples that this is the will of God that you believe on him whom God hath sent the conclusion is that he that believeth shall be saved but he that believeth not is condemned already Now then Christ as he is the word and maker of all things is not the light in conscience but the word that was God and with God without whom nothing was made that was made in him was life and the life was the light of men and he it is that enlightens every man that comes into the world now mark here is the word in whom is the life which life is the light of men and this word is God that enlighteneth every man that comes into the world which word being the womb that the life is in the word is one thing the light another which light of men being but an efflux of the life in the word is not the word nor is it God for that it is but a propertie sent forth from him the word who being goodness it self sends forth his love into the heart to wit his life which shed in the heart is to the heart a light and this he calls his spirit of which he gives his Children to partake at times for relief in their pilgrimage state which light is not Christ though of his Nature no more then the light of the Sun is the Sun it self And if the light in conscience as you say it is be Christ then so many men as are in the world so many Christs For that that is in conscience is circumscribed by conscience and if circumscribed a distinct part from the whole as a tree whose womb is the Earth out of which it comes forth a tree as a tree a distinct particular from the earth in its own particular root from whence it hath its growth so that the light in conscience is not Christ no more then the beam of the Sun that incorporates with the radical moisture of the earth is the Sun but I am not ignorant whereto this opinion tends Now then Christ as he is the word and maker of all things is called God but in that he hath the power to give out of himself life that is in himself promises to give forth out of himself his life which is his spirit to them that do believe on him which life as before told you is the light of men which life when beam'd into mans heart no more abides to the satisfying of the heart then while it is a living motion which when the word with-holds his breathing as to the cretures sense is dead as you have an instance in fire which you see lies in the wood but till the wood be set on fire the fire doth not appear and thence the wood gives no warmth and when the wood is kindled that the fire flames forth you see it doth no longer abide then it hath matter for when the wood is burnt the fire goeth out and who of you that have experience that knoweth not the thing I speak therefore the light in conscience not Christ though a measure of his nature for as the fire lies occult in the wood and is not manifest so is it with the light in conscience which lies in conscience as dead till quickened by Christ from motion by his spirit and hence my conclusion is that the spirit of man being his internal light hath no more power to give salvation to the soul then the soul hath to save it self but in that it being a sparkling glimps in the soul doth convince the soul of what is good and what is done amiss which discerned by the soul serves for a director to the soul to go to Christ where only lies its help which spirit of man saith the Scriptures is the candle of the Lord by which he searcheth the inmost parts of his belly which spirit or light in man coming down with every man from Adam by Generation is the instinct in Nature that doth incline the creture naturally to call on God the instance hereof we have in Babes that when themselves can express in their mouths is found the Name of God which being but the light of nature in that mans spirit is a being from nature and not the light of life that Christ gives to his Saints through their believing on his name and if so it had been that the light in conscience had been Christ that could have saved them and given to them the power to become the Sons of God it had been little to us the promise of God to send his spirit to us for another comforter Be not deceived this light of conscience cannot lead the follower of its dictates farther then unto its own center which is the center of Nature and its power felt but the power of the center of nature and if you was not so highly exalted from your own conceits you might come to a understanding of your spirits and the center of your life being from the property of fire thence t is you cast forth flames from out of your mouths to devour all that doth oppose you in your errours And for your attributing to the light in every mans conscience the power to give wisdom righteousness sanctification redemption let me tell you is a doctrine not what declared by Scriptures nor known by the experimental traveller that waits for the salvation of God and your assertion that by believing in it the power known and the feeling it the witnessing the breaking of the Serpents head is a Doctrine that nulls the purpose of God in sending Christ the womans seed who was the breaker of the Serpents head who had he not broke it when he was in this world in a body of flesh could
errour hath risen amongst us by changing the name by which we onely can be saved to the changeing the truth but in that it doth appear that Christ is Christ as he was in the form of our persons a Saviour and by that form Salvation for man hath wrought your principles that the light in Conscience every man born into the world hath is Christ is out of Truth and that it is that convinceth him of sin doth manifest you deny the Christ of God but saith the Lord I go away and will send the spirit and he that shall convince the world of Sin of Righteousness and of Judgement of Sin because they believe not on me of Righteousness because I am gone to the Father of Judgement because the Prince of this World is cast out Now if the Light in Conscience be the Spirit then must every man have Christs Spirit that comes into the world And whether Christ that saith his Spirit the world cannot receive because they believe not on me or you are to be believed in this point I commit to be considered of by men and say this that the attending upon the light in Conscience for the Christ leads not to Christ neither is it his Spirit for the Spirits work in man is to lead man out of himself and all depending on himself to Christ and to a depending on Christ that by him the wounded soul may obtaine peace in God our Father in and by our Lord Jesus Christ who is the propitiation for our sins according unto the Holy good pleasure of our Righteous God who gives his Spirit to them that aske him by Faith on his beloved Son Now that Christ himself and his Spirit is not one you see by his words that speaks of himself as one and of the Spirit as another I go away but I will not leave you comfortless alone I will send you another Comforter the spirit of Truth and he shall take of mine and give it unto you and why saith Christ I say of mine it is because the Father hath given to me all that he hath Mark here is the Father that gives all to the Son and here is the spirit that takes from the Son and gives to Christs believers here is three the Father Son and Spirit the Father the Giver the Son the Receiver the Spirit the Dispenser to men the Father the good will the Son the doer of his good will the Spirit the Reward to them that set their Seal that God is true who hath sent his Son into the World from the love he bore the world that they might not perish but have everlasting life and unto Christ saith the beloved John there are three that bare Record in Heaven Father Word and Spirit and these three are one both in respect of consent in their testimonies as also in respect of their eternity of being who being a substance of so transcendent a clarity of spiritual subsistencie which neither eye hath seen nor ear hath heard neither hath it entred into the heart of man to know but as to him it s given by the Son who reveals him who determining with himself to manifest himself he the all-nothingness becomes the al-somethingness to his own manifestation who having wil'd a being to bring to pass that that he had wil'd attracts in his will a desire for a center of the all-things that he the will in his all-seeingness did foresee from Eternity and having by his desire astringe the matter for a corporal form into a nature for production of cretures speaks forth the model by his word who effects by power to wit his Spirit the Universe with cretures in their diversities and variety of colours and shapes which being the truth that thousands of the Quakers that are so called I hope do believe do hope the wisdome of the Powers and all good and religious men will keep up a charity to the good not imputing to them the errours of the wicked for that you know that in the soundest bodies oft it happens there breaks forth a Boyle But to my Discourse whose business is to clear the point that Christ without us is Saviour and not the light in conscience that you say is Christ to that end turn to the Question the Lord puts to Peter who saith Peter whom say the people I am his Reply to his Lord Some sayes thou art Elias some Jeremiah or some of the Prophets but saith the Lord unto Peter whom say'st thou that I am Peter makes Answer Thou art Christ the Son of the Living God The Lord replyes to Peter and declared him blessed for that flesh and blood had not revealed it unto him but my Father that is in Heaven See 't was Christ that spake to Peter as in person without him and not the Light Christ that spake to Peter from within him and that that revealed Christ to Peter that Christ was the Son of God not his light in his Conscience but the Father that is in Heaven 't is time you wake from sleep and come to the acknowledging of the truth for unto us there is left no excuse take heed stumble not least you fall backward Surely my Friends from the beginning of Genesis to the end of the Revelations the Scriptures concern themselves to bear witness to him who is the Truth the man Christ Jesus and our Lord the Lords Christ and our Saviour and unto him confess I to the Glory of God our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ But my Friends from of old God complains the Leaders of my people cause them to err From Page the seventeenth to the nineteeth charge not my Pen to return to what there wrote for that I will not be provok't but refer the Reader to the paper which examining will find the Truth against your Opposition to its Position That the Christ of God that Redeemed man was him that was born of the Virgin Mary and personally came into the world in flesh and not the light of Creation in the Conscience which you say is Saviour Redeemer Advocate and the Christ but if my former paper wanted explaining I hope that this will clear the point but what is asserted of mine that you bring against me for to justifie you in your invictiveness in that I have declared the Truth satisfie my self in Gods reward being contented to be reviled without reviling again knowing that if they call'd the Master of the House Beelzebub you will call his Disciples Devils but while you stigmatize others take heed you brand not your selves and for your contempt saying I use your words I think there is amongst you that can witness that many years since I judged much of your language a Cant therefore I assure you you take too much upon you you Sons of Levie or that I use any other mans words or matter to glister with their covering saving the Scriptures of Truth my conscience bears me witness I use none but if I should if they