Men on the Part of our Opposers in publick Meetings for Worship of God have frequently been Cause of Stumbling to some so that 't is to be doubted that Jealousies have been ready to enter many that though the Name of Christianity is retained amongst the People called Quakers yet that the Nature Life and Doctrine thereof hath suffered Shipwrack amongst them if all under that Name ought at this Day to be measured by the Deportment and Doctrine of some The particular Instances of such Deportments and Doctrines whereof I have been Eye and Ear-Witness might fill a large Volumn And therefore if this be granted it cannot but by every Considerate and Impartial Reader be thought needful enough that a Testimony unto the Principles of Truth antiently held forth amongst them might once more be Revived and Committed to Posterity on behalf of that Party amongst them who account themselves Persecuted Reviled and evilly Intreated when they know no other Cause thereof than in their stedfast Adhering to and Persevering in the Way of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and having begun in the Spirit cannot be in Unity with such as to them seem to expect Perfection through a zealous Exalting of other Mens Lines made ready to their Hands And thus the Generations to come as well as at this Day may know that though some Lovers of Preheminence Innovators and Unskilful Preachers that know not how to divide the Word aright have been pleased to stigmatize others with these Terms viz. Dark Leavened Rending Dividing Separate Spirits yet it hath been manifest that 't is because such others cannot in a Temporizing Spirit change their Way and depart from their Antient Path which by the Spirit of God they have been led into and wherein they have had Fellowship with their Antient Brethren whom the Lord Anointed to publish his Everlasting Gospel and to gather others from the Lo here 's and the Lo there 's to take heed unto the Holy Unction in themselves as a Sufficient Guide unto the Father of Life Quer. 3. Whether thy Publishing this Treatise in Print may not in probability give unto others a Knowledge of the Differences amongst us and so obstruct the Encrease of our Meetings and the gathering of some yet walking in the Broad Way into the True Faith and cause many already gathered thereunto to stumble and fall Answ Nay The Considerations inducing me so to Answer are these Though this Treatise declares that there are Divisions amongst the People called Quakers yet that 's no more than what to my Knowledge is publickly known both to Professor and Prophane and that from Observations of such in the Publick Meetings for Worship for many Moneths if not Years past as are not reputed to be of the People called Quakers The Occasion of such Observations in some Meetings hath been so frequently given as that it seems to me to be as impossible to cover the Knowledge thereof as that which hath been Proclaimed by a common Bell-Man and the Instruments which for the most part have been the Proclaimers hereof have been such as under the Notion of Preachers in God's Name though in a Reality but idle ignorant Praters in the Will of Man by their Declarations run against the Friends of Truth sometimes by Name and other times not so particular though intelligible enough and yet incapable to detect such as is Evil either in Conversation or Doctrine Which being considered and compared with many Imaginary Discourses in Publick Meetings for Worship of God whereby the Publishers thereof appear Unlearned in the School of Christ 't is irrational to expect that any Person Conscientiously seeking after the Way of Truth should be gathered to such as are at Variance each with other and whose Publick Assemblies have been at some times the very Stages of Contention and if they should 't is most certain they would not therein be gathered unto such as are in an Heavenly Fellowship each with other but if on the contrary such as are seeking after the way of Truth amongst the People called Quakers have been disaffected with them in general from a certain Knowledge of their divisions and the unsound Doctrines held forth by some and yet shall but seriously ponder this Treatise it may become a means unto such to eschew the Evil and embrace the Good by inclining their hearts unto the Principles of Truth herein held forth and not suffering the offence given by such amongst them as have retained the Name but not the Nature nor yet in some respects the Doctrine of Christianity so to enter as to hinder their Perseverance and Growth in the true Faith untill at length they may come into Union and Fellowship with the faithful Friends thereof Moreover to me it seems impossible that the seasonable asserting the Truth and pleading for it can occasion any to stumble and fall from it but rather the Contrary However I must confess 't is probable enough that it may occasion many to disregard such kind of Preachers or rather Praters whose Doctrines and Practices have not only caused the Name of the Lord to be evil spoken of but whose Necessities have seemed to be a Bait unto them to Follow for the Loaves and no marvel if these instead of Gathering to God Gather to themselves and as a proper expedient to obtain such a gathering publish in the open Meetings for Worship of God such like Doctrines as these according as I have already hinted and which I am a witness from the hearing of my ear have in publick meetings for worship been publisht viz. Have your Eye to the Brethren meaning thereby Publick Preachers If you do not see your selves follow us that do see And frequently exhort to shut out the reasoning the Wisdom and the Iealousy without distinction which being compared with these primitive and wholesome Exhortations and Doctrines Wisdom is Iustified of her Children look not unto us but unto the Lord take heed unto the Light of Christ in your own consciences Draw water out of your own Wells let it be your own and not anothers it seems to me more like the Language of those Shepherds who as the Prophet said Sought for their gain from their Quarters than the Language of such whom the Lord hath anointed to cherish and feed his Sheep To Conclude this Preface 't is with me to say unto every one through the Nations called by the name Quaker on this wise Let the remembrance of the dayes that are past come before you wherein the Servants of the Living God Labourers in the Gospel in the beginning of the latter Day of the Ministration of Light sounded by his trumpet an Alarm to the Nations And what said the voice of the Eternal Power through them It spoke to this effect unto the inhabitants of the Earth Awake Awake from the sleep of Death that the Lord may give unto you Life He that was and is and is to come is arisen in a remnant and Christ the Son
on the behalf of the Truth for that therein is plainly demonstrated the Qualifications of such as Sathan hath made use of to rend and divide the Church of Christ SECT IX An Epistle evidencing the Qualications of such whom Sathan makes vse of to Rend and Divide the Church of Christ A Paper given forth by Edward Burroughs Anno 1661. Touching the Scattered in Israel wherein by a Parable is lively described a part of what hath happened amongst the Flock of God in these latter dayes The Conclusion manifesting Several Passages very material and worthy observation as a further discovery of the Fruit and Cause of Division An Epistle prefixed to the Historical Manuscript mentioned in the Preface to this Treatise Evidencing the Qualifications of such whom Satan hath made use of to rend and divide the Church of Christ THe great Evidence of pure and undefiled Religion is a Conscience void of Offence towards God but the contrary is attended with Anxiety and Trouble He that in the Light of Christ Jesus inclines to preserve such a Conscience must not so value his Repute and Name amongst men as thereby to loose his Peace with the Lord. The consideration whereof hath abundantly satisfied us to encourage the preparing of this Treatise knowing that the Long-suffering Patience and Warnings of many Faithful Friends have had little place with many such persecuting Opposers of the Friends of Truth as are under the Profession thereof And therefore it may be Just with the Lord to suffer their long-suffering to have an End We also know that the Unsavoury Testimonies and Unchristian-like Discourses of many such in our Meetings for the Worship of God have been so frequently as well as publickly manifested as that 't is thereby known both to Professors and Prophane that the People called Quakers are now Divided by which 't is to be doubted that some may really conclude that though their Name is not extinguish't yet that the Nature Doctrine and Life which accompanied them at their first coming forth hath of late suffered Shipwrack This having been seriously pondered by us hath encreased the concern of our Consciences thus to appear that so as the Door hath thereby been so far shut in some parts of this Nation as that there hath been of late but few gathered into a Belief of the Everlasting Light so it may again in the Lords time be more opened by a clear Discovery that there is yet remaining a Remnant of that Ancient Stock who have been and our Faith in God is that they will be preserved in his Fear to persevere in his unchangable Way Light and Life of Truth unto the End That now the Reader may have some short Account of what the Lord hath manifested unto us on this Occasion we further thus Declare The Original Cause of Division and Seperation between the Members of any Society once at Unity in the Truth touching Religious Matters hath sprung from Satan The Persons in whom he hath chiefly appeared to accomplish the same have been such as usually appear more publick than other their Brethren and that under various Qualifications some have had Zeal without Knowledge and some have had Knowledge without Zeal and others have abounded in Confidence without either Knowledge or Zeal and none of these whilst exercised under these Qualifications have found Acceptance with the Lord And as Satan hath made use of Persons thus variously Qualified for the Preservation of his Kingdom so Christ Jesus whose Appearance hath been and is to destroy the Works of the Devil hath and doth make use of such Instruments in his Hand whom he hath furnished with true Zeal and that according to Knowledge for though all have not the like Degree of Knowledge yet that Zeal which is exercised according to the Measure of Knowledge given by God and received by Man finds Acceptance with the Lord of Life Now forasmuch as in this Treatise variety of Matters is Discourst wherein Divers Persons have been concerned many of whom were once at Unity which we are perswaded consisted in the Everlasting Truth and that every one of them might reasonably have been taken to be under one of the aforesaid Qualifications 't is with us at this time considering that the Tree is to be known by its Fruit to note a few things attending such respective Qualifications and that Chiefly for the sakes of such as have Zeal without Knowledge and so if the Lord make us Instruments in his Hand to open the understanding of any whereby they may come to have a true Savour of and Unity with those who have so received the Spirit as to be exercising themselves in true Zeal and that according to Knowledge we then shall have our End We now begin to speak of those who have Zeal without Knowledge Charity obliegeth us not to conclude that they design any thing more than to Live well that so they may dye well or any thing less than to appear what they know they are not but yet this we certainly know that albeit these have professed Christ Jesus to be their Foundation yet many of them for want of Knowledge have been building thereon the Wood the Hay and the Stubble of other Mens Inventions whereby they have suffered loss having exalted their own Righteousness thorough a Zealous Submission to other Mens Lines made ready to their Hands as if therein the Righteousness of Faith consisted or that it were lawful contrary to the Counsel of the Apostle to Glory in Men The Apostle Paul Rom 10.2 thus saith I bear them record they have a Zeal of God but not according to Knowledge and from the next Verse we learn that they were such as being ignorant of Gods Righteousness and going about to Establish their Own Righteousness have not Submitted themselves to the Righteousness of God This was spoken of Israel for their Information that they might not have a dependency on the Righteousness of the Law as if thorough the Strict Performance and Observations of Outward Things Establisht under the Law they should come to know the Salvation of God thorough Christ but rather that their Dependency should be upon the Righteousness which is of Faith which according to the Apostles Doctrine Vers the 8th of the same Chapter informs us thus The word is nigh thee even in thy mouth and in thy Heart that is the Word of Faith which we Preach So that by this Doctrine and what Elsewhere is written in other of his Epistles it appears that the Apostles care for Israel was that they might be brought off those Outward and carnal Ordinances which were Established for a season untill the time of reformation unto the Word nigh in the Heart which undoubtedly was and is no other than that Law which according to the word of the Lord by the mouth of the Prophet Jeremiah Jer. 31.33 Was to be put in their Inward Parts and written in their Hearts All which leads us to make this Observation that whosoever
they are though under ever so specious Pretences that have indeavoured to Establish Outward indispensible Rules and Orders in matters relating to Conscience for the Church of Christ in this Gospel Day to Walk by neglecting to commit and Commend every one unto the Word nigh in the heart that thereby they may be preserved from subjection to any thing outwardly ordained which they may either scruple in Conscience or are not led by the Word nigh in the Heart to Practise are such as in the best and most Fovourable Construction act from Zeale without Knowledge in which kind of Zeal Paul himself Phil. 3.6 though as to the Righteousness of the Law blameless yet Persecuted the Church This kind of Zeal is accompanied with that Ignorance which the chief amongst Apostatized Churches have accounted the Mother of Devotion by which Thousands in Ages past in the Dark Night of Apostacy have been led into the Observation of many Unsavoury Dictates Erroneous Decrees Unwarrantable Traditions and Superstitious Examples either of one Man or assemblies of men not knowing what they have either believed or Practised to be an incumbent duty upon them through an inward evidence from Gods Witness in their Consciences or Tryal thereof by the Light of Christ May not the same Cloud of Darkness overshadow any of the Children of Light in this our day saith our Souls Moreover 't is observable that if Report be true this doctrine hath of late been exalted NO UNITY BUT IN CONFORMITY which if applyed to the Outward Prescriptions of one Man or Assemblies of men assuming to themselves authority to act and determin in matters appertaining to the Gospel and its Order thereby to become a Bond upon the Consciences of those who have Believed in the Everlasting Light of Christ Jesus as the great Order and Ordinance of God in this Gospel Day may occasion the Continuation of Discord Distraction and Division contrary to the Gospel and Doctrine of Truth which hath been publisht received and believed amongst the Children of Light in these latter days who neither have nor can receive any Doctrine contrary to this Testimony of the Apostle 2 Cor. 3.6 The Letter Killeth but the Spirit giveth Life We now appeal unto every understanding ingenious and impartial Reader whether since the Labour of the Apostles of Christ in the primitive dayes was to draw the Outward Jew off from the observation of these ordinances which were realy established by the appointment of God himself having exalted instead thereof the word nigh in the heart and Law written therein as a fulfilling of that which according to the Word of the Lord by the mouth of his Prophet was to come to pass under the new Covenant which was not to be like unto the Old can consist with the tenour of the new Covenant for any to attempt the establishment or giving forth of Outward Orders Prescriptions Sentences or Decrees to be on that foot a Bond upon the Consciences of those who have believed in the Everlasting Light Especially if they are of the Gentile Stock according to the Flesh unto whom the Law appertained not for so the People of England are and if not whether those who are otherwise perswaded and according to such a perswasion may be found acting may not though under the Outward Profession of Truth it self justly be numbered amongst those of whom in the best sense it may be said They have Zeal without Knowledge and Ignorance is the Mother of their Devotion And now as to those who have Knowledge without Zeal Charity doth not Oblige us to conclude that such in that state chiefly design to live well that so they may dye well for as Christ said so may we Luk. 12.48 Unto whomsoever Much is given of him shall be Much required the want of Zeal in a known Good Cause is as we take it the neglect of a Known Incumbent Duty wherein God hath given Power else how could it have been said to the Luke-Warm Church of Laodicea after an understanding was given unto her how she might come to see viz. by anointing her eyes with Eye Salve Lev. 3.19 be Zealous amend for doubtless Power was given of God into her to amend as well as direction how to see but of the want of Knowledge it cannot be so said as of the want of Zeal Because 't is not equally in our Powers to attain unto Knowledge when we want it as it is Zealously to Practise what we know to be our duty we may therefore conclude that where Knowledge is not accompanyed with Zeal though requisite t is in the best sense a token of a Luke-warm Spirit and in some where it hath predominated we have clearly discerned that first they have been over-awed by the Frowns of man or men and then under the Pretence of bearing all things neglect to give their Testimony for the Truth without respect to any Person whatsoever more than the Truth might require and by this means some have undoubtedly been the occasion whereby many have been caught in the Snare of the Evil one not Knowing through a Neglect of their Inward Teacher which way to turn and that Loads and Burthens have been the Portions of others who whil'st they have kept Stedfast unto the antient Doctrine Exalting the appearance of Christ by his Light to be our Law Rule and Guide have beheld some of their Brethren not only captivated with a kind of a slavish Fear but also in their Practices receeded from what their first Principle would have led them to having used politick Contrivances to retain the Favour and Affections of some who perhaps in their View have appeared to be like unto the rising Sun and so have given more way to a Temporizing Spirit than to acquit themselves as Good Christians in the sight of God by which the Conscience comes to be kept voyd of offence towards God and Man and all this as with respect to some 't is doubted for fear lest they should be termed Sect-masters by such as in this Gospel-day have assumed a Pretended Authority to establish Outward Orders to be a Rule for and Bond upon the Children of Light to walk by without any exception thereby to avoid oppressing a tender Conscience But this is far wide of that Zeal which accompanyed the Apostle Paul in his Converted State who was termed a Ringleader of the Sect of the Nazerenes by the Unbelieving Jews that would have Judged him according to their Law which undoubtedly would then have inflicted Severe Punishment on him which being duly considered we may well say 't is far wide of Pauls Zeal to fear under this Gospel-day the Title of a Sect-Master on the score of refusing Outward Conformity to Outward Rules and Orders relating to the Conscience under the Notion of Gospel-Orders establisht amongst the People called Quakers not only Because they have no Law whereby corporally to Punish but also because we have no Ground either from the Word of the Lord by the
birth from running into Duties catching of Openings and laying hold of Promises and to feel the Heir born of the Immortal Seed to whom all belongs and the other Birth never afterwards get up above him but be subdued and brought into Subjection Again sayeth the Apostle Take heed of doing any thing doubtingly be not forward be not hasty wait for the leading wait for the Manifestation of the Spirit Be sure thou receive what thou receives in the Faith and Practise what thou practisest in the Faith For whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin being an Errour from the Principle of Life which is to guide and thereby thou losest ground and dishonourest Christ and comest under Condemnation And so the Apostle warns Believers To take heed of drawing one another on too fast or of Judging one another in such things as some of them might have Light in others not He that eateth not to Judge him that did not eat and he that did not eat not to Judge him that did eat yea in Matters of Worship he that observed a Day and kept a Sabbath not to Judge him that observed not a Day or kept not a Sabbath For the Jews which were truly converted yet were hard to be drawn off from the Observation of their Sabbath and could hardly bear with the Believing Gentiles who were never taught to keep their Sabbath with them but were taught to esteem every day and sanctifie it to the Lord Rom. 14.5 And those who esteemed every day and dedicated it to the Lord ceasing from Sin and resting to him for under the Gospel we are not to set up a new Type but to enter by Faith into the true Rest which is the Substance of what the other signified could hardly bear with them who observed a Day Even in the Apostles Days Christians were too apt to strive after a wrong Vnity and Vniformity in Outward Practices and Observations and to Judge one another Vnrighteously in those things And mark it is not the different Practice from one another that breaks the Peace and the Unity but the Judging of one another because of different Practices he that keeps not a Day may unite in the same Spirit in the same Life in the same Love with him that keeps a Day and he who keeps a Day may unite in Heart and Soul with the same Spirit and Life in him who keeps not a Day but he that Judgeth the other because of either of these Errs from the Spirit from the Love from the Life and so breaks the Bond of Unity And he that draws another to any Practice before the Life in his own Particular lead him does as much as in him lies to destroy the Soul of that Person Vers 15. This was the Apostles Rule for every one to perform singly to the Lord what he did and not for one to meddle with the Light or Conscience of another undervaluing his Brother or Judging him because his Light and Practices differed from his Vers 10. of that 14th Chap. but every one to keep close to their own Measure of Light even to that proportion of Faith and Knowledge which God of his Mercy hath bestowed on them and here is the true Unity in the Spirit in the Inward Life and not in an Outward Vniformity that was not necessary in the Apostles Days nor is it necessary now and that Eye which so dotes upon it overlooks the one Thing which is necessary Men keeping close to God the Lord will lead them on fast enough and give them Light fast enough for he taketh care of such and knoweth what Light and what Practices are most proper for them but for Men to walk on faster than the Lord holds forth Light to them this overturns them raising up a wrong thing in them and the true Birth hereby comes to suffer to shrink and be driven back And Oh! how sweet and pleasant is it to the truly Spiritual Eye to see several sorts of Believers several Forms of Christians in the School of Christ every one learning their own Lesson performing their own peculiar Service and knowing owning and loving one another in their several Places and different Performances to their Master to whom they are to give an Account and not to quarrel with one another about their different Practices Rom. 14.4 For this is the true ground of Love and Unity not that such a man walks and does just as I do but because I feel the same Spirit of Life in him and in that he walks in his Rank in his own order in his proper way and Place of Subjection to that and this is far more pleasing to me than if he walked just in that track wherein I walk nay so far as I am Spiritual I cannot so much as desire that he should do so until he be particularly led thereto by the same Spirit which led me And he that knows what it is to receive any Truths from the Spirit and to be led into Practices by the Spirit and how prone the Fleshly Man is to make haste and how dangerous that haste is will not be forward to press his Knowledge or Practices upon others but rather wait patiently till the Lord fit them for the receiving thereof and fear lest they should receive and practise too soon even in that part which cannot serve the Lord. And this I can truly say concerning my self I never found my Spirit forward to draw any either to any thing I believed to be true or to any Practice or Way of Worship I observed or walked in but desired that the Power and leadings of Life might go before them and was afraid lest men should receive things from my hand and not from the Lords Yea and this I very well remember that when I walked in the way of Independency as it hath been commonly called I had more Unity with more Love towards such as were single-Hearted in other Ways and Practices of Worship whose Spirits I had some feeling of in the true Simplicity and in the Life than with divers of such who were very Knowing and Zealous in that way of Independency in whom a wrong thing in the mean time had got up which had caused them to swerve from the Life and from the Simplicity So that the true Church Government being in the Spirit and over the Conscience as in the Sight of God the great Care must be to keep it within its Bounds that nothing else govern but the Spirit and that the Government be extended only unto that which is to be Governed First Care must be had that nothing Govern in the Church of Christ but the Spirit of Christ that nothing else teach nothing else exhort nothing else admonish and reprove nothing else cut off and cast out Every Minister in the Church is to watch over his own Spirit that it intrude not into the work of God that it take not upon it to be the Teacher the Exhorter the Reprover c. And
Part p. 7 8. See also the 3 d. Part p. 7 8. The General-Assembly of the Cburch of the First-Born 3 d. Part p. 74 78. Members of Christ's Body not certainly describable by Outward Marks and Tokens Outward Orders insufficient for their Conservation 3 d. Part p. 57 58. No Member of the Church of Christ one more than another is exempted from being lyable to err pag. 75 76 77 78. N Â O OBedience What kind of Obedience finds Acceptance what not 3 d. Part p. 26 33. See Church-Government Though the Obedience of Christ made many Righteous yet 't is no Proof that any were or can be made Partakers of that Righteousness whil'st Sin reigns in the Mortal Body 2 d. Part p. 67 68. Opposers From an Objection raised Occasion is taken to shew the Difference between Us and our Opposers though our Language relating to Principle and Practice in some things agree 1 st Part p. 30 31. Order of the Gospel is the Power of God and cannot be Establish't by Man 3 d. Part p. 25. Outward Orders The Establishers thereof under the Notion of Christ's Government Invaders of Christ's Prerogative 1 st Part p. 4. Reasons given why they are unsuitable to be accounted a Part of Christ's Government 3 d. prt p. 6 7 8 9 11 23 24. See 1 st Part p 6 7 8. See Church-Government P PErfection Every Gift of God is Perfect No such Perfect State attainable wherein 't is not needful for Man to Watch 2 d. Part p. 14. A Cessation from Sin attainable 2 d. Part p. 14 15 16 19 20. Persecution An Objection touching Securing Outward Estate in Time of Persecution Christ's Words to Peter and Saul's Action of saving Agag being instanced is Answered 1 st Part p. 30 to 36. Plain-Language On what Ground used 2 d. Part p. 34. Power of Decision of Differences by Robert Barclay's Words imports a Jurisdiction in such as he accounts the Church over Property 3. Part p. 35. Observations on the said Sence shewing the Inconsistency thereof with Truth 3 d. Part p. 35 to 41. Power to Bind and Loose is not from Christ's Words so far as from the Scripture we learn pleaded by the Apostles or any Assembly under the Notion of Christ's Church 3 d. Part p. 66 67. Principles Reputed by Robert Barclay the Bond by which we became Centered into One Body meaning Christ's Body the Church 3 d. Part p. 54. His Assertion and Argument refuted p. 54 to 59. The like he saith touching Practices and Doctrines p. 54. Professors of Christianity How they come to disagree touching some Religious Matters whenas whil'st they keep to Scripture-Language they agree in Principles termed Fundamental that are relative to the Matter wherein they differ 2 d. Part p. 69 70. Prophet Raised like unto Moses is Christ Jesus and no other is owned by us like unto Moses under the Second Covenant but Christ Jesus 1 st Part p. 10 11. Q Â R REign of Christ is by his Spirit in the Heart 3 d. Part p. 4. Robert Barclay An Answer to his Book of Government manifesting Erroneous Doctrines held forth by him 3 d. Part p. 15 to 88. The Chief Matters discours'd of in the said Answer p. 19 20 21 22 23. Robert Barclay's Postscript to the said Book by way of Epistle to Friends wherein he affirms That he never found Occasion to Repent or Retract any thing from the Matter and Principles there asserted by him And further also That though the Things chiefly scrupled at are as he saith cleared by Will m. Rogers his own Letter yet that all may be satisfyed by having them from his own Hand he was free to Write his Postscript William Rogers his Observations adjoyned to the said Postscript shew First That Robert Barclay Justifies his Book Secondly That the pretended Letter of William Rogers is by Robert Barclay acknowledged to contain Robert Barclay's Sence and Explication of the Matters scrupled in his Book Thirdly That his Postscript was writ that all might have his Sence of the Matters chiefly scrupled under his own Hand according to the Explications given in William Rogers his pretended Letter Fourthly That notwithstanding all this the Explications in the said Letter are not to be found in his Book nor yet all of them in his Postscript neither doth his Postscript and Book agree nor yet either of Them with Truth in many Things 3 d. Part p. 99 to 124. Rule See Church-Government S SAlvation of Mankind See Kingdom of God and Justification Sathan The Qualifications of such whom Sathan hath made use of to rend and divide the Church of Christ viz. such as have Zeal without Knowledge such as have Knowledge without Zeal and others that have abounded in Confidence without either Knowledge or Zeal 1 st Part p. 69 to 78. Schismes The Ground thereof and some Marks by which 't is known 3 d. Part p. 41 42. Scriptures may be an Instrument through the Spirit whereby Faith in Christ may be attained unto 2 d. Part p. 3 4. And albeit they have been owned by Us and our Antient Friends to be a Rule yet we have not owned them to be the Infallible Rule but instead thereof the Spirit And yet they have been of late streined by Robert Barclay to make them the Rule to rule over our Brethren p. 48 49 50 51. See Church-Government Sentences or Degrees of any Assembly though pretending themselves the Church in Matters relating to Conscience no Bond upon Believers without inward Conviction 3 d. Part p. 58 61 62. See Believers Sin See Perfection Spirit What is meant by this kind of our Opposer's Language viz. Dark Leaven'd Rending Dividing Separate Spirit 1 st Part p. 6. Spiritual Matters Cognizable by the Government held forth by Robert Barclay 3 d. Part p. 53. Swearing under the Gospel-Dispensation not Lawful in any Case 2 d. Part 37 38 39. Submission to any Assembly that in any tollerable Supposition may be termed the Church of Christ is so pleaded for by Robert Barclay as that Want of Sight shall not excuse being Guilty of Disobeying God 3 d. Pare p. 69. That Sence refuted his Perversion of the Scriptures cited discovered 3 d. Part p. 69 to 80. Supper of the Lord the Night before he was Betrayed p. 51. The Doctrine of Christ at that Supper Owned p. 51 52. Scripture reputed to relate to that Practice Explained p. 52 to 61. T TEstimonies In what Case these words Let th'Testimonies of Friends arise have been notoriously abused 1 st Part p. 18 19. Traditions See Church-Government Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil cannot properly be a Comparison to represent Knowledge that is Devilish or the Thing that is Evil 2 d. Part p. 28 29. Tythes no Gospel-Maintenance to a Gospel-Ministry 2 d. Part p. 40 to 44. U VNity Divers Things laid down wherein the Faithful were at Unity 1 st Part p. 2 3 4. In what Sence the Apostle exhorted thereto 1 st Part p. 36 37. Inconveniences attending this Doctrine no Unity but in Conformity 1 st Part p. 72 73. An Universal Establish't Unity with respect to Faith and Discipline relating to Believers in Christ by Outward Instruments is inconsisting with Gospel-Liberty 3 d. Part p. 82 to 86. See Believers The Mark of a Member of Christ's Church in Unity with the Body is an Inward Invisible Mark 3 d. Part p. 83 84. W VVArs not Lawful to be entred into by Us to work our own Deliverance from under Oppressive Laws and Magistrates 2 d. Part p. 30 31 32. Weak Believers may be Received to doubtful Disputations by assigning the Decision of Controversy to the Church since Contention may arise who or where they are 3 d. Part p. 59 60. Wisdom from Above and that which is not from Above is deseribed Wisdom which we have as Creatures is not that Wisdom which by the Apostle is termed Sensual and Devilish but is given us of God 2 d. Part p. 21 to 25. Women having received a Revelation to Utter in the Church may Speak Unruly Disorderly Women may be warned to be Silent even as it is their Duty so to be in the Church 3 d. Part p. 52. Works What sort are Necessary to Salvation and what not Works spoken of by the Apostle James are the same sort of Works spoken of by the Apostle Paul 2 d. Part p. 16 17 18 19. Writings for Publick View By whom Approved or else not to be Printed 3 d. Part p. 29 30 Reasons against the Method of such Approbation and Limitation 3 d. Part p. 29 30 31 32. X Â Y Â Z ZEal without Knowledge Some Parts of the Fruit thereof described 1 st Part pag. 70 71 72 73. Zeal according to Knowledge accepted by God 1 st Part p. 70. A Part of the Qualifications of such as are endued with it 1 st Part p. 77. THE Postscript following the Preface is added to clear the Truth as well as my self from this pretended Argument against my Printing viz. That I came up to London to read a Charge behind George Fox 's Back and That though I pretended a Readiness to Meet him I had no Desire thereto Which gives me Occasion to lay down several Observations and Reasons invalidating the pretended Argument together with a Letter written by Me to James Claypoole and Three other Friends in London to cover a Remonstrance to the Friends of London All on purpose that they might use their Interest to cause George Fox to submit to a Hearing that so if possible some Expedient might have been found to satisfy my Conscience otherwise than by Printing Which I acquainted them of as well as George Fox and that I intended to proceed therein unless so much Notice should be taken of my Call for Justice against the Reproachful Actions and Trespasses of George Fox as that he might be brought to a Hearing before Friends to the end that if Guilty he might give Satisfaction if not he might be Quitted There are also signified in the said Postscript several Things which are clear Evidences that George Fox would not assent to any Meeting for the aforesaid End Which coming to my Knowledge I was then free of all Concern to sollicite him more either by Word or Writing for a Meeting and had no further Bond upon me to forbear proceeding to Print as Expeditious as I could William Rogers
THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate Innovator In FIVE PARTS WHEREIN RELIGIOUS DIFFERNCES amongst the People termed in Derision Quakers are treated on GEORGE FOX one at least if not the chief reputed Author thereof is detected DOCTRINES of TRUTH owned by the Children of Light and cleared from Objections are laid down according to Holy Scriptures and Revelation of the Spirit By WILLIAM ROGERS on behalf of himself and other Friends in Truth concerned Eccles 2.9 There is no new Thing under the Sun Gal. 2.11 But when Peter was come to Antioch I withstood him to the Face because he was to be Blamed LONDON PRINTED in the Year 1680. THE PREFACE TO THE READER IT was the Saying of Christ As I Hear I Judge I hope that Christ's Example in that Case will be such a Bond on every one that may concern themselves touching this Treatise as that I may have no just Occasion to reflect on any Christian-Professor even as Nicodemus a Pharisee once did on those of his own Sect Joh. 7.51 Doth our Law Judge any Man before it Hear him In Confidence that this Treatise may meet with so much Justice at least from True if not from all Pretended Friends 't is now brought to Light And though some amongst the People termed in Derision Quakers appearing to stand as Neuters in the present Controversy amongst them not knowing the Christian and Orderly Proceeding of others may conclude That 't is an Untimely Birth Yet let such know that the Moderation of those who are concerned in the Publication hereof hath for many Years past been manifested Note The Divisions amongst the People called Quakers have been at least Eight Years encreasing to the Height they now are at by endeavouring as much as in them did lye as hereafter will more largely appear that those small Differences which at first seemed but like unto little Sparks might not arise unto so great a Flame as they now are And were it not so that many Meetings of the said People for the Worship of God in divers Parts of the Nation have been entertained with frequent Contention and Opposition and in particular that both Priest Professor and Prophane have become Eye and Ear-Witnesses of such Rude and Unchristian-like Deportments as of late have been mafested by many speaking at once in their Publick-Meeting within the City of Bristol before many Hundreds by which the Meeters have been reputed as in an Uproar and their Meeting-House accounted rather a Stage of Scolding than a Place for Worship of God It might not as yet have been brought to Light without some further Endeavour to have sought a Reconciliation if so be the least Hopes should have been given of its Acceptance But being void of all such Hopes Now so it is that so great a Concern of Conscience lyes on many to encourage the Publication hereof as that we can no longer forbear lest it should be reputed That the Doctrine and Life of Christianity were wholly Extinct amongst the afore-said People My Desire now is That the Reader may seriously weigh the Four following Notations and the Observations thereon and then 't will easily be savour'd at what Door the Publick Disorders have entred and whether or no they are not the very Birth of some Politick Unchristian-like Contrivance First Many in that City retain their Antient Respect for John Story and John Wilkinson Two Antient and Honourable Labourers in the Gospel of Christ whose Conversations and Doctrine I have not known or understood to be Exceeded in Godliness by any Mortal Man whatsoever and on that Foot are accounted such as Joyn to Separates or a Separate Spirit as the Term or Nick-Name sometimes is because some Upstarts and Innovators Adherents to George Fox have been pleased to disown the said John Story and John Wilkinson though they could not justly Charge them with Evil. Secondly In a Paper given forth by an Eminent Preacher and Opposer of John Story and John Wilkinson whose Name I omit for the Reasons herein after mentioned thus directed viz. To God's Friends every where concerning the present Separates and their Spirit 't is thus said Let not this Spirit be reasoned with enter not into Proposals and Articles with it but feed it with Iudgment that is God's Decree So may the Souls that are deceived come by the Right Door into the Heavenly Vnity Thirdly The same Person that writ as aforesaid was also concerned in a Paper subscribed by Charles Marshall and Sixty-Five more given forth at Ellis Hooks his Chamber the 12 th Day of the 4 th Moneth 1677. wherein 't is thus writ with Relation to John Story and John Wilkinson Therefore Brethren every where stand up in the Power and Wisdom of God for the Testimony of Truth against that Wrong Iealous Murmuring and Dividing Spirit And where they come warn them in the Name of the Lord to go home and not go thus up and down to offer their Gifts Fourthly The very same Person that writ as aforesaid thus That is God's Decree did also some Years past threaten That Bristol should be as an Anvil to beat upon meaning with Respect to Religious Differences My Observations now are That in as much as the Meeting at Bristol hath become as an Anvil whereon many Apostates or Innovators Opposers of John Story and John Wilkinson have in a Disorderly Manner frequently beat it may not rationally be taken to be the Fruit of a Politick Unchristian-like Contrivance in the best Sense And that albeit they have been apt to stamp their rude Discourses and severe Judgments in the Name of the Lord resusing to reason with such against whom they strike or in a Christian Spirit to treat of the Differences yet therein I am fully perswaded that they act rather from the Line of Another than Their own And not only so but from the Line such an one as hath taken Liberty to Violate that which he would Impose as by a Decree from God on others For though he Imperatively thus said as aforesaid Let not this Spirit be reasoned with Enter not into Proposals and Articles with it but feed it with Iudgment that is God's Decree Yet he himself did a few Moneths after accompany George Fox to the City of Bristol and there entred into Reasonings Proposals and Articles with such as owned John Story though termed a Separate or Separate Spirit which by the Scope of his Writing may reasonably be taken by those who understand his Meaning by these his words viz. This Spirit To be an Acting contrary to his own Counsel When I compare this with these kinds of Declarations frequently publish't amongst the aforesaid People viz. Let us Exclude the Reasoning the Wisdom and the Iealousie and let us have an Eye to the Brethren Further insinuating as if God had ordained Ministers amongst them that are to see and hear for the Body and common Members of the Churches as the Printed Terms are I cannot but be full of Jealousie that these
Things have a Tendency to insinuate Submission without Conviction to nurture up Ignorance instead of Wisdom and to introduce Bondage instead of Freedom in Christ as much as ever was under the Cover of a Black-Coat in the Dark Night of Apostacy where this Maxime viz. Ignorance is the Mother of Devotion is known to be true with respect to a Zealous Observation of what the Clergy have imposed and taught What is already signified may give some little Taste of Apostacy or Innovation unto such as have been acquainted with the Primitive Doctrines and Practices of the True Christian-Quaker or Children of Light for so we were called in the Beginning But yet 't is with me a little to treat of one other grand Mark of Apostacy or Innovation viz. Iudging the Merit of a Cause without Hearing the same As before is signified 'T was the Saying of Christ As I Hear I Judge But yet I am a Witness that Ignorance or Envy or that which is worse hath so abounded as that the True Christian-Quaker hath been judged and censured by such as retain that Name but not his Nature when See the Appendix to the Second Part of the Christian-Quaker unheard in the Defence of Himself and the Cause of Truth which he hath stood for When I consider the aforesaid Words of Christ As I Hear I Iudge John 5.26 27. and that it sprang from him who was Partaker of his Father's Life and Power and knew all Things John 16.30 it s to me a real Confirmation that a Pretence to Life Power and Discerning of Spirits cannot be sufficient Plea to justify a Practice contrary to that Example And therefore since I know that such a Pretence hath been the only Plea for that Practice I conclude it no better than the Fruit of Ignorance or Envy or that which is worse Ignorance in those who have believed that outward Ministers are Ordained of God amongst the People called Quakers to See for the Body and Hear for the Body and on that Foot signe and glory in other Men's Lines made ready to their Hands whether they know any thing of the Truth thereof or no. Envy or that which is worse in such an one as hath used both Acquired and Natural Parts from the Strength of Reason Testimonies of Scriptures Arguments from the Light of Christ Citations out of Antient and Modern Writers as well as Examples of Antient Fathers to convince some Professors of Christianity of their Errors and yet imperatively signify To God's Friends every where as before is cited on this wise Let not this Spirit be reasoned with enter not into Proposals and Articles with it but feed it with Iudgment that is God's Decree And indeed the Endeavours of some have taken such an Effect as that the abused Parties Readiness to abide a Hearing before a competent Number of Persons equally to be chosen if any one had Matter of Evil Fact or False Doctrine to lay to their Charge would not be accepted but instead thereof a Persevering to term them dark and rending Spirits without evidencing wherein Which is far short of that Justice which appeared in Festus when he directed the Jewish Informers against Paul to Accuse him of Wickedness if there be any in him These Things considered What ingenious Reader can conclude that Persons so qualifyed are of any better Spirit than those Persecuting Jews were of unto whom the aforesaid Festus on the Behalf of Persecuted Paul said Acts 25.16 It is not the Manner of the Romans to deliver any Man to Dye before that he which is Accused have the Accusers Face to Face and have Licence to answer for himself concerning the Crime laid against him And though the Testimony of Festus runs not parallel with respect to the taking away of the Natural Life yet several Instances might be produced to manifest that there are amongst the People termed Quakers such as practise so far as in them lyes the bringing a Death upon the Good Name and Reputation of the True Christian-Quaker without giving Opportunity to know Whether they pretend to Accuse of Matter of Evil Fact or no. These Things considered puts me in mind to note That one great Part of the Matter of Controversie is touching John Story who in Publick Meeting for Worship hath in my Hearing been accused for a False Prophet and when the Accuser hath been desired to prove him so the Answer hath been He is of a Dividing Spirit and therefore a False Prophet But when in Answer it hath been said as of late it hath Bring forth and prove Matter of Evil Fact or False Doctrine against him and we will disown him then nothing of that Nature hath been brought forth much less proved against him Which considered I rationally infer That such Opposers of the Christian-Quaker whom in this Preface I intend are guilty of one other Mark of Apostacy or Innovation in not admitting to be put in Practice the Rule of Christ when he said Ye shall know them by their Fruits Matth. 7.16 meaning as the Scripture declares such as were False Prophets And that they may the better evade the Rule prescribed as by Christ sometimes affirm That a Good Cause may be ill managed and a bad Cause well managed Thereby insinuating into Ignorant People that though John Story and his Friends have managed their Cause well whil'st their Opposers have managed their Cause but ill yet that John Story and his Friends are Persons of Bad Spirits and their Opposers Persons of Right Spirits And for my own part I no way doubt but that this sort of Argumentation hath become a Defence and Cover for False Certificates Lyes and Slanderous Accusations whereby some have been proselyted to oppose the Truth it self Oh great Abomination If Living Well and holding forth nothing but Sound Doctrine shall not be brought to the Measuring Line of Christ What Defence can there be against a Slanderous Tongue And if Evil Practices and Unsound Doctrine pretended to be publish't in the Name of God shall admit of this Cover he is notwithstanding of a Good Spirit A little Religion and common Sense will give an Understanding of what Absurdities and Gross Darkness may be introduced under those Notions 'T is then easily to be discerned that if the Envy of a Proud Man that seeks Lordship over the Consciences of others do but once put to speak comparatively the Bare-Skin upon the Back of a Friend in Truth there will not be wanting a Company of Ignorant or Envious Persons ready to bite and devour him and to spread abroad Certificates of Defamation Right or Wrong amongst Enemies as well as Friends according to the Example given by G. F. when writing to H. S. R. T. and another Person of Harford he thus said Here is a Certificate enclosed from Two of John Story 's Neighbours who very well know he hath been an Encourager of the Separate-Meeting in Westmoreland which you may shew both to Enemies and Friends with the other
of the Eternal God who was with the Father before the Foundation of the World was laid is become the Horn of their Salvation and hath brought Immortality to Light in them and revealed that Teacher that can never be moved into a corner and therefore these cannot depend any longer on the teachings of man nor yet on outward Canonical Articles Creeds Directories or Church-Faiths prescribed by man but on the teachings of Christ alone by his Light and Spiritual appearance in themselves to lead and guide unto the Father of life The sound of this Alarm as many can yet witness became a joyful sound to that soul which was hungring after the Lord though piercing as a Dart through the liver to the man of sin so that astonishment and amazement seemed to take hold on many whereby they became a By-word a Mock and a Taunt unto such whose dependencies were on their outward Teachers c. as aforesaid I say again Oh Friends let the Remembrance of this Day come before you and consider further what was the voice of the Eternal Power unto such who were struck with amazement after they believed the appearance of that power whereby they were so struck to be the appearance of the Power of God I well remember the voice was on this wise To your own To your own To your own Meaning thereby that they should turn in their minds to the Light of Christ in their consciences which was declared to be that teacher which could never be removed into a corner that so they might witness the fulfilling of that loud voice uttered by the Angel flying through the midst of Heaven Having the everlasting Gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the Earth c. Fear God and give glory to him for the Hour of his judgment is come and worship him that made Heaven and Earth c. For no doubt but the Spirit of the Lord revealed unto those first labourers in the Gospel that there was a pronenesse in the Sons and Daughters of Men to admire to depend upon and sometimes through an affectionate part or blind Zeal to worship such are were instruments to give forth outward Directories or Church-Faiths For we find that the Apostle tells us of worshipping Angels which are Messengers whom God hath sent by him that intrudes into things which he hath not seen therefore I am perswaded that the voice of Truth through them was not only thus viz. To your own which being observed leads into an independency upon others but also frequently on this wise We preach not our selves look not unto us In the Consideration of these things I cannot but cry aloud in the aforesaid words of the Angel that had the everlasting Gospel to Preach Fear God and give Glory to him And then no doubt but every such one that hath concerned himself to condemn his Brother on no better ground than from the example and prescription of another will come to see that therein he hath not kept to his own and so hath been led into a By and Erring Path. Oh Friends let therefore this cry pass through every heart To our Own To our Own To our Own That is to say to every one 's own measure of Christ's Light or Grace of God Received which the Apostle saith is sufficient with this secret breathing of Spirit unto the God of our lives that all may be thereto retired For if that Counsel might but take place it seems to me that there could then be no room for any to impose or press the observation of other mens Lines upon any which no doubt is one great occasion of the religious differences treated on and not only so but it would mould all who retain the name of Christianity into the very nature thereof and so consequently a reconciliation in the everlasting Truth might quickly ensue For if that Door be but once shut through which variance and disunion entred there may then arise a hope of cessation to such contention and strife as is out of the Truth but if not I may then say how can the effect cease whilst the cause remains I well Remember and many with me that whil'st friends kept to their Own and concerned not themselves to promote a zealous observation of other mens Lines made ready to their hands we then heard not of so much contention strife and debate both publick and private as of late years hath been but since the promotion thereof Confusion Disorder Emulation Malice and Envy hath been its Offspring which hath been manifested by publick unjust revilings against some when zealously contending for the Faith of Gods Elect and though these are of that number that prefer obedience to their own measures of Grace received before obedience to the measures of others yet other some there are who have endeavoured to bring Friends into conformity to the pretended Dictates of the Spirit through others or at best through that one man G. F. before spoken of and that under the penalty of being accounted guilty of Corah's sin for scrupling to conform and thus the variance is like to continue unless the God of Heaven for his Names sake by the Arm of his own Power shall put a stop thereto And forasmuch as I could not but say in all seriousness of Spirit for the clearing of my conscience Let the remembrance of the dayes that are past come before you wherein the Servants of the living God sounded by his trumpet an Alarm to the Nations and that the Servant of the Lord Edward Burrough many years deceased is honourably spoken of by some if not by all of both parties of the People called Quakers at variance one that had the Trumpet of the Lord to sound and hath therewith sounded as a Son of thunder as well as of consolation many Alarm unto the Nations I shall conclude with the citation of a part of an Epistle written by him in the Year 1658. to the Friends of the City of London and so leave the consideration thereof to the Impartial Reader to savour whether according to the sense of his counsel we ought not to know the Spirit of God in our selves to be the ground of all our actions and if so then to practise from other mens Lines without an inward conviction by the Spirit in our selves can be no more accepted as indeed it is not than the offering of the halt and the blind for a Sacrifice under the first Covenant was Here follows the citation out of Edward Burrough's aforesaid Epistle YEa it is peace to the Soul and gladness to the Heart and refreshment to the Life to feel and witness the teaching of the Spirit of the Father leading into all Truth and preserving out of all transgressions wherefore I beseech you all let this be your whole desire and the full practice in your life and then shall the Countenance of the Lord shine upon you and his face shall make you glad if in all things you look unto
Persons Dictator thereof we writ unto thee desiring thee to acquaint us if thou couldst who it was that wrote such a Letter or a Letter to the like Import and whether thou didst know of any thing acted by us or either of us according as in the said Copy was mentioned telling thee also that Truth seeks no Corners But notwithstanding the aforementioued four Letters on the aforesaid Occasion yet nothing is come to this Day to either of our hands as Answer from thee so far as I know which considering how forward thou hast been in other Cases to answer in thy Vindication it s to me a Demonstration that thy Guilt is such as that no Answer in Truth can render thee an Innocent Man This is not all the Abuse which thou hast offered to me as well as to the Truth it self But thou hast farther and that at a large rate too persisted by thy Lyes Slanders c. to gainsay the Truth as I have sufficiently manifested in my rejoinder which thou hast not yet Answered so far as ever I understood to thy Reply and John Blackings Postscript which was written in Answer to what I writ unto thee dated the 20th of the 7th Month grounded on thy sending Queries to be read in our Mens Meeting in Bristol and not only so but thy Agents have been very busy to publish thy foresaid Reply into divers parts of the Nation to the corrupting the Minds of many who give Credit thereto all which being in much seriousness of Spirit weighed by me encreaseth the Concern of Conscience on me to wipe away thy Refuge of Lies by detecting thee in Print if by any reasonable means the Door may be open so to do for thy manifold Abuses of me unless some other Expedient agreeable to the Truth may be found to satisfy my Conscience touching which I hope I shall forever have an Ear open to any one that may speak unto me in the Word of Truth And thus I am concerned the more for that I have been by several Friends from divers Countryes and Places called upon to Vindicate the Truth as well as my self against thy Reproach However I doubt not but I may yet forbear to Print against thee if per the next Post after thy receipt hereof thou give me that satisfaction as is proposed in mine above cited of the 11th of the 11th Mounth 1678. and acknowledge the Errours Lyes Slanders and Forgery c. whereof I have detected thee in my aforesaid Rejoynder sent unto thee several moneths past with direction that it may be read amongst Friends as publickly as thy false Scandalls have extended or otherwise if thou shalt pretend that thou art not convinced of being guilty of Lyes c. if thou furnish me before the General Meeting with such a number of fair Copies in Manuscript of my Rejoynder as may be sufficient to Inform all such of the Truth as have been mis-informed by thy Fallacious Reply and give thy Directions that it may be read in the General and other Mens Meetings it may be for ought I yet know a consideration to me to forbear For my desire is not to discover thy Errours and Evil Practices further than amongst those who Profess the Truth if by any meanes posible I can and yet so clear my Conscience as that they may have a Proper Looking-Glass to behold thee in as thou art and ought to be seen If thou condescendest to what is last proposed it may also be ground of Hope that thou wilt condescend to give Satisfaction for other thy Miscarriages And of this I desire to hear from thee by a Letter to be directed to James Claypoole under thy Cover desiring him to send it unto me If thou answer not my Request I then think it needful to inform thee that my self and others may then have no ground of Hope that thou wilt give us Satisfaction for other thy Offences committed against thy Brethren to the Dishonour of God and his Truth which the Friends thereof profess and so my Concern will then be not only to detect thee for such thy Errours and evil Practices which thou hast occasionally committed with respect to me but forasmuch as I am fully satisfyed in my Conscience on such grounds as I think not my self oblieged to reiterate that thou hast been one chief Instrument or at least an Abetter of such as have whereby Note This Letter is intended to be spread abroad amongst Friends and the Reason wherefore I Insert these general Reflections without particular Evidence is chiefly to become a Remembrance unto Friends that they may consider whether they have not been Witnesses that my Sense is true for I know there are many amongst us who if Occasion required are ready to give the like Testimony I certainly know the particular evidences hereof producible are so many as might fill a large Volume and for that reason also improper on this Occasion a biting and devouring Spirit is entered some amongst the Flock and that Heaps of unsound and aiery Teachers that appear amongst us as if they were sent to call for Fire from Heaven receive Life from thee and thereby are emboldned to entertain the Congregation with Empty and Idle vain Discourses to the obstructing of such as I firmly believe have the Word of God to deliver in the demonstration of the Power and Spirit and therefore my Concern hath been to treat on several Particulars which have been as so many several Steps by which Divisions have ascended to the Height they now are at To send the Copy thereof is unreasonable because thou mayst when I have so done take no more notice thereof than thou hast of the four forementioned Letters However lest thou should now imagine that I will act against thee in a secret underly way and to prevent thee from running into further Errour by such evil Suggestions from thy Imaginations as heretofore with Relation to me thou hast done I think meet to signify unto thee the Matters whereon I have treated in that Manuscript prepared by me for the PRESS unless my Conscience can be otherwise satisfyed in Relation to thee wherein I doubt not but to every Impartial Reader there will appear matter whereby thou wilt be manifested guilty of many Evil Practices and Errours for which thou ought to give Satisfaction both to Particular Persons whom thou hast wronged as well as to the Church of God in General In the said Manuscript I treat on the seven Queries sent unto John Wilkinson the sixteen Queries sent unto John Story making Observations on Proceedings thereon and which had Relation thereto I also take notice of two of thy Letters to John Wilkinson and John Story and of several of mine to thee and of John Story 's Letter to the two Meetings in the North the Dissatisfaction relating to thee at Bristol thy Queries read at Bristol and other things relating thereto I now come to take Notice that John Blaickling in his Postscript to
And that William Mead desired Nicholas Lucas that it might be intimated to me that now George Fox would give me a Meeting Which I did understand or at least suppose was urged as an Argument that I ought thereupon to forbear Printing which occasioned me immediately on receipt thereof to take care that my Mind might be communicated unto Nicholas Lucas of Hartford who thereupon as I am advised acquainted William Mead that their Desire meaning that I would give George Fox a Meeting was accepted by me provided that George Fox would give it under his Hand meaning thereby to meet me to which William Mead said he would speak to George Fox about it and afterwards the said William Mead told Nicholas Lucas he had spoke with G. F. and his Answer was He will not give it under his Hand nor write to me By which all impartial Readers may further Judge whether G. F. have any Inclination at all to give me a Meeting for the clearing of Matters laid to his Charge Nicholas Lucas I do hereby testify that which is contained in the Additional Post-script so far as relates to me and William Mead is Truth Bristol the 10th of November 1680. FOrasmuch as it hath of late been frequently discoursed amongst some of the People called Quakers That I intended to Print against Friends and not only so but such my reputed Intentions have been made use of as a Argument to render me Wicked and thereby to disaffect Simple-hearted well meaning Friends towards my self and other Friends in Truth 't is now become my further Concern to add these few Lines First Such Insinuators cannot be therein guilty of less than Injustice and Slander because it was not then known what would be printed by me Secondly They have had no ground to conjecture that my Intentions were to treat on any thing more than the Wayes and Means by which the said People once at Unity came to be divided together with some part of the Fruits of that Division and the Doctrines and Practices we stand for which if brought to Light so as that nothing but the Naked Truth might be publish't which ought to have been supposed until the contrary should have appeared the Question then needful to be answered is this Whether 't is matter of evil Fact in me to publish in Print an Historical Relation of the Truth as aforesaid and that for the clearing of my Conscience that the Sin of Disobedience may not lye at my Door The Answer in short is Nay To every impartial and unprejudiced Reader I doubt not but that the Preface to the Reader the Introduction to the First and Fourth Parts of this Treatise may give sufficient Satisfaction but lest the Ignorance and Blindness of any should be so great as not from thence to perceive the Righteousness of my present proceeding to Print or that the Partiality of any that do so should so abound as to Strengthen Evil Insinuations against me on that Account I have this to say That such as have been of Party against us concerned in the Publication hereof have been the First and frequent Promulgators by Declaration by Manuscript and by Printing That there have been Divisions amongst the aforesaid People As to a Publication thereof by Declaration I refer to what I have already written in the Preface to the Reader the Introduction to the First and Fourth Parts of this Treatise As to the Publication thereof by Manuscript I referr to the Fourth Part and in particular to the Title Page thereof to the Forty Four Articles of Accusation drawn up against John Wilkinson and John Story to the Paper subscribed by Charles Marshal and Sixty five more at Ellis Hooks his Chamber both mentioned in this Treatise to the Note in the said Paper these Words relating to John Story and John Wilkinson are viz. And we do hereby warn all to have a Care that they be not lifted up by reason of the Temptation and hurt that 's come upon these Men nor yet insult over them for that Spirit is not of God but rather let all watch in the Fear and Dread of Almighty God against that Spirit that they enter not into Temptation The aforesaid Words are cited to shew the Inconsistency of John Wilkinson and John Story their Opposers Actions with the aforesaid Advice For 't is well known that contray to the aforesaid Counsel Their Opposers have been so drunk with Prejudice and an Insulting Spirit as that the said Paper called a Narrative hath been read against them in several Counties in publick Meetings for the Worship of God from which Assemblies no Persons whatsoever though not professing the Truth are excluded This Action may reasonably be concluded to spring from the same Spirit that dictated a few Lines subscribed by George Fox whereof mention is made in the Preface directing to shew Certificates against John Story both to Enemies and Friends Paper called The Brethrens Narrative at Drawel And to an Epistle written by a publick Preacher and one of Party against such as are concerned in the Publication hereof whose Name for the Reasons mentioned in the Preface I omit directed to be read and accordingly was read in a Publick Meeting for Worship of God within the City of Bristol held in the great Meeting-House on the 21st of the 11th Month 1678. in the presence of several not accounted to be of the People called Quakers wherein mention is made of Rents Schismes Contention Difference Breach Strife Distraction Discord Quarrel late and present Division and of a Seperation in some Parts of this Nation on such wise as that in the Authors Sense 't is Evident that they are mentioned with relation to one party of Friends amongst those who have professed the Truth as rent and divided from another Party But that which on this Occasion is chiefly my Concern is to evidence that there hath been a Publication of the aforesaid Divisions in Print before the Publication hereof and that by and on the behalf of some of George Fox's Party On the 8th Instant came to my Hands two Sheets of Printed Paper Entituled An Epistle pretended to be for true Love Unity and Order in the Church of Christ against the Spirit of Discord Disorder and Confusion In the bottom of the Title Page thereof 't is thus written Printed by Andrew Sowle and are to be Sold at his Shop in Devonshire Buildings without Bishopsgate 1680. That direction for Sale is a sufficient Notification to me that 't was not Printed for a limited Service Note Besides as I am informed they are publickly exposed to Sale by other Book-Sellers in London and forasmuch as 't is well known that Ann Whitehead and Mary Elson the Subscribers thereof are such qualifyed Persons as not to Print any thing on a Religious Score without the Approbation of a Meeting held in London every Second Day usually consisting of uncertain Numbers of uncertain qualifyed Persons who therein pretend to take upon them the approbation or
the contrary of what is intended for the PRESS I reasonably conclude that whatever is written in the above cited Sheets was there approved I should now proceed to cite a few Sentences out of it which amounts to a Publication of Divisions Page 4. The Lord hath suffered Blindness in part to happen to some through declining their First Love who came out amongst us and had a Part in the Belief and Discovery of the Way of Truth but now some only have the Sheeps-Cloathing and others have lost that too who through a prejudiced Mind are alienated from that Unity of Spirit and Bond of Peace in which we keep our wholsome Practices which we have received in the Unity and Order of the Gospel of Peace and Truth of Christ Jesus in the Fellowship of the Spirit in Bowels of Mercy being like-minded and of one accord in whatsoever things are True Just Honest and of good Report not that we should think of them only but be in the Practice of them as we are In the same Page it is further thus written But to our Burthen and Grief we find amongst some a Contrary Spirit that will not subject to Unity in wholsome Practices amongst us and that will needs Interpose to destroy Unity in some Places and obtrude it self to Confound our wholsome Order and Practices received amongst us as a Church and People and through this contrary Spirit and Prejudiced Mind the Accuser of the Brethren is broken out under a specious Pretence crying Liberty of Conscience Liberty of Conscience in Opposition to those needful convenient and wholsome Practices exercised amongst us in outward Things Also Page 5th thus This Note An accusing Spirit is now accounted a Confounder of Order by this Rule may not the Accusers of I. W. and I. S. be accounted Confounders of Order Accusing Opposing Dividing Spirit that is at work in this our Day to confound Order against the Peaceable Government of Christ amongst his People This Dividing Accusing Prejudicial Worker would introduce a Belief that an Apostacy is Entring and we are gone from the Beginning and First Principle and the Power lost and now Forms are setting up and Imposition on Consciences and the like and amongst whom is all this say they but amongst us who are in Unity of Spirit both in Faith and Practices and 't is amongst such that they imagine this Fearful Imposture and Arbitrary Rule Imposing Prescriptions and Laws on the tender Consciences of the Weak is now gotten up to exercise and so the Liberty of the tender Conscience is lost and you say they are intangled with the Yoak of Bondage to this Day And Page 10th thus Inasmuch as the envious Worker is suffered to proceed that would even race out the Foundation of Christ's Kingdom and Government under which his Subjects do only own their Christian-Freedom and true Liberty of Conscience c. In the 12th Page it is thus written And he meaning G. F. as by his Name before cited in the same Page appears was moved of the Lord to advise to a Womens Meeting c. and when Dear G. F. declared unto us what the Lord had made known unto him by his Power that there should be a Womens Meeting that so all the Sick the Weak the Widdow and the Fatherless should be Note here is no mention made of bringing Marriages before them minded and looked after in their Distresses And Page the 13th thus I have a word in my Heart to say unto you all Back-Sliders Obstructors Opposers and such as Countenance them secretly of this our heavenly Order of Men and Womens Meetings which the Lord by his Power hath set up and further thus You that have despised Dignities to speak Evil of the Servants of the Lord such that faithfully have laboured amongst us from the Beginning which the Lord hath found worthy of double Honour for I do know and the Lord hath sealed it in my Heart that that Spirit which hath opposed the Blessed Unity and Order of Truth in those our Mens and Womens Meetings shall never prosper nor they who are in it inwardly to God without Repentance And in the 15th Page 't is thus written And a true Sense hath been upon me of our Dear Friends up and down the Nation of their great Tryal and Exercise that hath been upon them because of this Wicked Dividing Spirit and especially in my Native Country viz. Willshire Thus much out of the aforesaid Sheets to manifest that this Treatise containes not the first printed and published Papers evidencing Divisions amongst the People called Quakers I am now sensible some may be apt thus to Object If the Meeting held on every Second Day whereof thou makes mention may be Justifyed in approving the aforesaid sheels to be printed yet it can be Plea to Justify thy Printing because thou hast descended more particularly to describe wherein the Difference doth consist and hast mentioned some Names of both Parties concerned in the Difference But in the aforecited Sheets we find but some Names of one Party only viz. G F. and the two Subscribers of the said two Sheets Answ I confess the latter Part of the Objection to be true but yet not sufficient for any to condemn my printing who may Justify the printing of the aforesaid Sheets For if the mentioning of one particular Matter wherein the Difference is reputed to consist even as in the said Sheets it is be according to Truth in one Party I know not why the mentioning of more may not be justifiable in the other Party and if it be justifyable to mention a Part of the Names of one Party concerned in the Difference why not also of the other And though in the aforesaid Sheets there is not so particular a Description wherein the Differences do consist as in this Treatise is mentioned Yet the understanding Reader may collect many things of importance from it and in particular that in the Sense of the Subscribers thereof and such as are at Unity with them who may reasonably be taken to be of one Party they are such as are for True Love Unity Order of the Gospel of Peace Fellowship of the Spirit Bowels of Mercy and things that are True Honest Just and a good Report c. And that the other Party whom they oppose are such as are for Disorder Confusion unto whom Blindness hath happened and that they are declined from their First Love having only the Sheeps-Cloathing of Prejudiced Minds Opposing Dividing Confounding Order against the Peaceable Government of Christ Envious Workers that would raze at the very Foundation of Christs Government Despisers of Dignity c. All which leads me to this Observation that since no matter of Fact is signifyed to evidence any under the Profession of Truth worthy of those General Reflections nor yet any thing referred to for Evidence I may reasonably conclude that the Intended Opposition to Christ's Government is in their Sense no other than a supposed Dislike
not agreeable to the Second Covenant to expect that any one should be ordained of God to be amongst the Children of Light like unto Moses save Christ Jesus our Lord and Master who by his Spiritual Appearance in us is become our Leader and Lawgiver and therefore we have no Ground to believe that any one Mortal Man ought to assume that place amongst the Children of Light at this Day as Moses by the Appointment of God did amongst the Children of Israel in his Day especially if we do but consider that the Promise of the Lord through his Prophet Jeremiah Jer. 31.33 34. with relation to that Time and dispensation of the New Covenant under which we are was on this wise I will put my Law in their Inward Parts and write it in their Hearts and they shall teach no more every man his Neighbour and every man his Brother saying Know the Lord for they shall all know me from the least of them unto the greatest of them saith the Lord. SECT III. An Answer to the Second Position deducible from an Objection raised toward the Conclusion of the first Section viz. That Monthly and Quarterly Meetings are called the Church and ought to be submitted to T Is well remembred that that one Man G. F. went some years past into many parts of this Nation advising Friends to hold such Meetings viz. Monthly and Quarterly and in many places his Counsel was readily embraced but for our parts we understood not at that day that it was designed by him or any else that those Meetings should not only be accounted the Church but also such as professed the Truth ought to believe as this Church believes had he so exprest himself Testimonies would have arisen as a Flood against such Darkness for this would have plainly appeared to us to have opened a Door whereby that Babylonish Rubbish which we had been long testifying against might have been exalted in one day And to be very plain we cannot but now declare that we are fully satisfied in our Consciences that by this very Door a Body of Strife Contention Emulation Malice and Envy together with a Rending Dividing Seperate Spirit from the Truth is entred amongst many hundreds who before walked together with us in an Heavenly Union and Fellowship in the Life of Righteousness which doubtless may if it hath not already occasion many Honest Simple-hearted Friends thus in their Hearts to say Where are the People whom we shall now follow But if such retire into the Sanctuary of the Lord there in stilness to wait what God will say they will undoubtedly have this Answer You have a Teacher within you which cannot be removed into a Corner follow that Teacher lest peradventer your Feet do slip by going from your Inward Guide and following the Footsteps and Dictates of Man But to return 'T is now our Concern as to the second Position thus further to declare That whosoever hath or shall testifie that all those Meetings as usually held were the Church of God hath and will appear to be such as know not whereof they affirm for such a Testimony carries with it neither inward nor outward Evidence though we dare not conclude that none in those Meetings were Members of the Church for the Church of God consists properly of such as are by one Spirit baptized into one Body 1 Cor. 12.13 and so are in the Possession as well as Profession of Truth But yet whoever they were that did but so much as profess the Truth were admitted to be Members of such Meetings whilest they appeared in the outward Form thereof and were not then of Scandalous Conversations All which might appear in such as were far remote from witnessing the Circumcision of the Heart and the Answer of a good Conscience towards God which must be witnessed as the proper Product of the Baptism of the Spirit before a Possession of the Truth be known And whether Mens Meetings have not often consisted of such Members and are like so to do whilest the Door is open for any under the aforesaid Qualifications to sit there as it yet is we recommend to the Serious Consideration of the Impartial Readers and if so we desire them further to weigh and Consider First Whether it can be agreeable to the Truth to account every thing acted and done by every such Meeting to be the Product of the Church of Christ and accordingly to be submitted to Secondly Whether the Judging of some conscientiously refusing to submit to be dark leavened rending dividing or seperate Spirits because they refuse be not the fruit of that Spirit that would remove us from that Teacher that cannot be removed into a Corner to follow the Dictates of Fallible Men. Thirdly Whether a Plea for Obedience to the Orders of such Meetings from Persons Conscientiously Refusing to Obey hath not a tendency to Justify Usurpation since they have never evidenced to the Consciences of those from whom they have seemed to expect Obedience any other Call to that Service than their own Fourthly Whether a Plea for such Meetings to Govern in matters relating to Conscience hath not a tendency to Justify Confusion since according to the reputed Order of such Meetings None that are to be Ruled are excluded from being Rulers Let those who cannot believe this our last Assertion peruse Robert Barclay's Book of Government approved by such as have been accounted Ministring Friends at the second Days Meeting in London wherein 't is said Page 33. We are not so foolish as to concern our selves with those who are not of us None of which are according to the Import of the said Book of Government as we take it excluded from such Meetings nor yet to give Judgment therein witness Page 79 and 82. of the said book and since we are now treating of those Meetings we are not without a sense but that some may be ready thus to query viz. What Order is either prescribed or used whereby the sense of such Meetings is collected To this we say An eminent Person professing Truth being at Bristol did take occasion to signify at a Mens-Meeting held in that City to this effect That in London and other parts of this Nation where such Meetings were usually held the sense of the generallity hath been taken for the sense of such Meetings Comparing this with this Doctrine frequently of late publisht amongst us That the Apostacy shall never enter the generality more doth give us Just occasion to be Jealous that our opposers for the carrying on of their designs against us have contrived this method of carrying all things by the generality or major number of voices which Limitation we know hath been heretofore and by the faithfull to this day utterly disowned as contrary to the Truth and also by the approvers of R. B's Book of Government as in Page 81. and though the counsel of that one man who first advised to the aforesaid Meetings in some parts was
sensible of the Danger in running beyond his Gift and is so puft up with Spiritual Pride as to conclude himself more Faithful more Holy more Circumspect more Discerning than his Brother thinking of himself not only better than of his Brother but in other things above what is meet contrary to the Counsel of the Apostle who exhorted Not to think of our selves more highly than we ought may easily run himself on this Rock of Judging those whom the Lord Judgeth not especially if such an one give himself liberty to Judge from an apprehended Inward Sense grounded on no Outward Knowledge or Evidence That now which is with us farther to signify in relation to this matter is this we have great cause to doubt that this kind of Weakness or Presumption hath been and is yet like to be one meanes by which the variance amongst such as have been formerly at Unity may continue because 't is well known that when Testimonies have arisen against some persons in publick as dark seperate and dividing Spirits and that some such as have been dissatisfy'd have desired to know what is the Matter and what is the Fruit whereby it may be evidenced The Answer commonly is Let the Testimonyes of Friends arise this Word when it Springs from such who have been Instruments to beget into this Faith that we ought to shut out the Reasoning the Wisdom and Jealousy and that without distinction and that the Apostacy shall never enter the Generality more and that we ought to have an eye to the * We would not be understood that 't is not fit to have an Eye to faithful Brethren in any thing but yet we cannot but take notice that it sounds not very comely out of the mouthes of those with respect to themselves who have in publick frequently thus Testified We Preach not our selves look not unto us but unto the Lord and the measure of his Grace in your selves that 's given to you to profit withal Brethren easily raises the like Testimony that such an one is of a dark seperate Spirit and then this comes to be spread abroad as a Seal to that which cannot be evidenced either by Doctrine or Conversation as if the Tree were not now to be known by its Fruit as in daies past and so whilst they have been in the Exercise of one part of the Counsel viz. Excluding the Reason and the Wisdom by which means some have been betrayed to act contrary to all Reason and all Wisdom they have acted contrary to the other part of the counsel which was to shut out the Jealousy For had they not entertained Unrighteous Jealousy we are perswaded that they would not have testified against such as have approved themselves unto us no other then Faithful Ministers of Christ Sound in Doctrine and as Blamless in Conversation so far as ever we knew as any Friends And thus the Variance we fear is but too likely to continue Now we appeal to the Witness of God Whether this kind of proceeding be not the Fruit of a Dark Rending Spirit that seperates from the Truth But to come a little nearer to answer other parts of the Objection viz. When we have been in Meetings with them we have been Witnesses that the Life hath been raised and our soules have been refreshed and that When those whom they oppose do speake nothing but Dryness Deadness and Barrenness appears We desire every one who may thus affirm seriously to weigh and consider First Whether if contrary to thine own Principle thou hast let in Jealousy this Jealousy may not darken thee so as to take Light for Darkness and Darkness for Light and that to be True Refreshment which is no other but a rejoycing in those imaginary sparks which thou by a false fire hast kindled for when the eye is not single to God and fixt upon that Teacher that cannot be removed into a Corner but instead thereof hast an eye unto man and to things that are without weighing not the matters wherein thy mind is concerned in the equal Ballance of the Sanctuary it may be Just with the Lord to suffer thee to be overshadowed with a Vail of Darkness and to become ignorant of the Mysteries of the Kingdom of God as they who are without are lest thou see with thine eye and understand with thy heart and be converted and saved even as it was said by Christ himself concerning them who are without Mark 4.11 12. For we know that when Truth was Preach't amongst us in the beginning and the Light of Christ Jesus shining in our Consciences magnified as our only Guide the Gift of the Father and Appearance of Christ Jesus the great Ordinance and Power of God unto Salvation our souls were wonderfully reacht and affected with the sound thereof believing that the day was then come unto us wherein the Promise of the Father according to the Words of Christ was fulfilled unto us viz. But the Comforter which is the Spirit of Truth which the Father will send in my Name he shall Teach you all things and Guide you into all Truth And thus the Eyes of our Understandings came to be opened that we saw most of the Professours then in being to be but in the Gentile nature and come no further than the Outward Court which the Angel as John Testified was not to measure for was not their Preacher Outward their Rule Outward their Order Outward their Ordinances Outward and the Tokens and Marks of Membership in their Church Outward And when those Outward Things were magnified and the Preaching of the Light of Christ Jesus as the Guide to the Father degraded by our Opposers we were even ready to fear on their behalf that they were of that number who saw but did not perceive did hear but not understand Our breathing now unto the Lord is That none of those who have formerly received the Truth in the Love thereof may continue so hardened as to see and not Perceive to hear and not Understand and so in a dark and vailed Estate conclude that as * Note This Sentence viz. as Heirs of the Gospel Life Salvation take your possessions hath been of late years srequently exprest by G. F. when speaking to friends by way of encouragement to continue Mens and Womens Meetings distinct from the publick Meetings for Worship by which meanes 't is much doubted that some ignorant People have concluded that their frequenting those meetings is an evidence that they are Heirs of Life and Salvation Heirs of the Gospel Life and Salvation they are entered into an Heavenly Possession whenas the Possessions they are entered into are but some outward Observations which may more properly be accounted to relate to the Outward Court than to the New Jerusalem and Heirs of the Kingdom of God but rather that they may so perceive and understand the things of God as to bow to the appearance of Christ Jesus in themselves as the only Lawgiver
Spiritual Guide and Teacher which is infailible and cannot be removed into a Corner with confidence then may we conclude that none such will ever more boast of the possession which they have taken as Heirs of the Gospel with respect to things that are without Secondly As to this part of the aforesaid Objection viz. that nothing but Dryness Deadness and Barrenness appears in those who are opposed by such with whom thou art at Unity we say This seems not strange unto us for the Apostle thus Testifies We are unto God a sweet Savour of Christ in them that are saved and in them that perish to the one we are the Savour of Death unto Death and to the other the Savour of Life unto Life This give us occasion to put every one that has or may Judge the sound form of words to be Deadness Dryness Barrenness especially when Springing from such whom thou hast known to be in the Life upon this search is not the reason thereof because I am watching for evil and have let in a Spirit of Prejudice believing an evil Report when perhaps it may not be Truth If this be thy State we must plainly tell thee they are the very Tokens of a Perishing Condition and then though it be the Word of Life that is Preached yet it can be no other according to the Testimony of the Apostle but the Savour of Death unto thee Besides we have this further Observation to make that some at least of those thus Testified against as Dead Dry and Barren are chiefly such unto whom God hath given a Portion of Understanding above many of their Brethren and have and yet do as far as ever we know appear Sound in Doctrine and as blameless in Life and Conversation as any friends we have ever known and so cannot run with the Current of the Times we desire therefore that every one of the Opposers of or Judges over such will yet more thoroughly search their own Consciences and in a Godly Jealousy over themselves put these queries unto their own hearts and try things in the equal ballance Have not I many times heard Unsound Doctrines and beheld Disorder and Confusion brought forth even in Publick Meetings for worship by those who cry against Dark Seperate Spirits and yet not been a Reproof thereto Concluding notwithstanding that there did a Freshness and Life appear Have not I been often affected with an Outward Tone and strength of Lungs when there hath been little to the Information and Building up one another in the most Holy Faith Have not I been better Contented to hear a Thundering kind of Voice Crying out against a Seperate Spirit though without Distinction when not a word was spoken to shew the Way to the Kingdom than to hear the Way of Eternal Life Plainly Demonstrated by a soft and moderate Voice We know there is great cause for many to put these questions to their Consciences and to be cool in Spirit that so they may have an Answer from the Lord whose appearance is not in the strong winds but in the still Voice SECT IV. An Answer to the Third Position deducible from an Objection raised toward the Conclusion of the first Section viz. That 't is Folly and Hipocrisy to profess our selves Members of the True Church and yet not Believe thus as the True Church Believes TO this we say we are altogether dissatisfied especially when we consider what a Body of darkness hath entered under the Belief of this Position we must believe as the Church believes amongst the Professors of Christianity in Ages past as well as at this present Day that such Language can become the mouth or pen of any one that professeth not only Faith in Christ but also that such his Faith is grounded upon the Inward Manifestation and Revelation of Gods Spirit in himself mark we say in himself Those who are accounted Apostate Christians have from such Assemblies which they call their Church set forth their Creeds by which it may be known what the Members of their Church do and ought to Believe and since 't is so that no Person is able to make out that ever any Assembly under the Notion of the true Church amongst the People called Quakers have published their Creed by which we mean a certain number of Articles of Faith recommending them as those things which every Member of the true Church ought to believe or else not be accounted a Member of the true Church we cannot account it unreasonable if any one that liketh not the Language touching Believing as the true Church Believes should ask the Publisher thereof this Question Hast thou not spoken this with respect to the People called Quakers as those whom thou accountest the True Church And if so is it not folly to talk of believing as this Church believes when no assembly under the notion of this Church have to this day declared and published their Creed for the ends aforesaid Nay may it not further be said we know how Papists and Protestants describe their Church but at the day wherein that which occasions this present discourse was given forth it was not discovered by any reputed Quakers publickly in Print that we know of who or were the true Church is with respect to visible persons more than what is to this effect given forth by the Author occasioning this present discourse viz. That the People called Quakers are the Church Wherein we do not take his meaning to be that all called Quakers were the Church of God but the Elect amongst them for he also saith The Church signifies the Elect and so the Reader is left without any certain Description who or where this Church is with respect to visible Persons since the Elect amongst them are not outwardly described For the clearing of the Truth and the opening of the Understandings of such as may be muddled about this matter 't is with us thus to Testifie 'T is well known that it pleased the Lord to reach unto many of our Consciences at the beginning of this latter Day that hath dawned amongst us whereby we came to Believe in the Everlasting Light of the Lord and as others held forth the Visible Orders and Written Faiths of a Visible Church to be as a Lanthorn to their Paths and as a Ground of their Faith so this Light of Christ was preach't up as a Lanthorn to our Paths and as the Ground of our Faith and then as our Understandings came to be more and more opened we clearly saw that as other Churches had outward Marks and Tokens whereby a man might manifest himself to be a Member of their Church when received into Society with their Church so we who had Believed in the Light of our Lord Jesus Christ and had the Evidence in our selves that we were of the true Brotherhood and Members of Christ's Body were at a loss infallibly to manifest unto others by any Outward Marks or Tokens that we were in
Reality Members of the true Church Because this Light in which we had Believed did reveal unto us that those who were but in the Gentile Nature and had come no further than the Outward Court that was given to the Gentiles might have all the Outward Marks and signs of a Member of their Churches and yet know very little of the washing by the Water of Regeneration and Sanctification through the Spirit which every Member of the true Church that 's Built on the Rock Christ comes to be Witness of And therefore when our Opposers who professed not the Truth would reflect upon us on this wise You are a confused People you gather not into Church-fellowships you have no certain Way to know one another to be Members of the Church as we have And why do you not put forth your Creed that so we may know what and how many the Articles of your Faith are and what you stand for and what you stand against The best Answer that ever as we could understand we were capable to give in Truth unto such was this The True Church is in God who is the Author and Finisher of our Faith we have believed in the Sufficiency of his Grace unto which if we are obedient according to the respective measures thereof given of God and Received by us we then have the Witness of God in our Consciences giving Evidence that we are of the True Brotherhood and of the Church of the First Born whose Names are written in Heaven though we do not alleadge any outward Marks and Signes whereby our Bodies being Temples wherein the Holy Ghost doth dwell ought to be accounted within the pale of the true Church And albeit no Outward Society of Men amongst us calling themselves the Church have put forth any certain number of Articles of Faith with this Testimony that every one that professeth himself a Member of the Church of Christ ought so to Believe or else not be accounted of the True Church yet many of our Freinds unto whom the Lord hath given Divine Understanding have written divers Books according as the Spirit of the Lord hath moved upon their Hearts out of which the sound Doctrines we hold and stand for may be collected though others so reputed may thorough Weakness have erred To conclude as to this particular we further thus testifie In the Church of Christ there are Babes Young Men and Fathers there are the Weak and the Strong Suppose a Weak Brothers Faith Differs from his Brethren must he be accounted a Fool or an Hipocrite Nay Nay Charity measures not so We find this very Case happening amongst the Romans and what said Paul in that Case Read Rom. 14.3 4 22 23. and there Paul thus adviseth Let not him that eateth dispise him that eateth not and let not him that eateth not Judge him which eateth for God hath received him Who art thou that condemnest another Man's Servant To his own Master he standeth or falleth Hast thou Faith Have it to thy self He that doubteth is condemned if he eat because he eateth not of Faith and whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin Hence 't is evident the Members of the Church differed in their Faith he that did eat was not to be Judged because he was Received of God he that did not eat was so far from being Judged that the Apostle condemnes the very eating whilest there was a Doubt though the abstaining from eating was the Fruit of Weakness We now leave it to the Conscience of every Impartial Reader in the Light of Christ Jesus to weigh and consider whether it can be Service to the Truth and agreeable to the meaning of the Spirit at this day for any person under the name of Quaker to give forth this Doctrine 't is folly and hipocrisy to profess our selves Members of the True Church and yet not believe thus as the True Church believes though the giver forth thereof may to this purpose also declare as to give the publisher thereof his due he hath That they never did preach up such a Position as a great Argument to enforce People into their Faith SECT V. What we stand for viz. Truth and Righteousness and that Christ's Government may be exalted in every Heart under which we are instructed not to depend on Man but on the sufficiency of God's Grace A Testimony against Tythes and for Meeting together in time of Persecution the neglect whereof may be the Fruit of Weakness or disobedience The Government of Christ and the Laws thereof are inward Some part of the Fruits brought forth under the said Government are discribed An Objection relating to the Securing any part of a mans Estate on a fore-sight of a Premunire or Fines for meeting answered HAving thus far eased our selves 't is with us in short to inform the Reader what we stand for and what we stand against that so the understanding impartiall Reader who cannot be principled to shut out all Reason and all Wisdom notwithstanding publick Exhortations to the contrary as if Wisdom and Reason of all kinds were condemnable may perceive more clearly what we are and what we are not That then which chiefly we stand for is Truth and Righteousness and that Christ's Government may be exalted in every Heart which might be branched forth into many particular Doctrines and Practices but forasmuch as that hath largely been treated on by many antient honourable Friends to Truth and Righteousness who were Instruments in Gods Hand to gather us into the Belief of his Light and Sufficiency of his Grace though since fallen asleep and that we intend more particularly to treat thereon in the second part of this Treatise we shall not much enlarge thereon in this part yet think it necessary for the sakes of some here to signifie That Truth and Righteousness for which we stand under the Government of Christ hath Instructed us not to depend on Man for teaching but on the Sufficiency of Gods Grace nor yet to put into the mouths of false Prophets or Hireling Shepherds and on this foot we have had a Testimony against paying of Tythes as being that Antichristian-Yoak which in the dark Night of Apostacy hath been spread over Nations and as we came to believe in the Light of Christ Jesus and to depend upon the Sufficiency of his Grace and to know the benefit of our assembling our selves together to wait upon the Lord for the arising of his pure immortal Life to the refreshing and consolating our immortal Souls we have been made willing Praises be to our God to continue the assembling of our Selves together waiting upon the Lord in the day of Persecution and Hour of Tryal though Sufferings might therefore attend believing that whatsoever society of People had been in the Life of Christianity and yet should for Fear of Man or the Lawes of Men forsake the assembling of themselves together as the manner of some hath been in dayes past when the will of the Lord
a Prey obtained by Commission from God and that with a severe Command to Destroy all and therefore we readily Confess that if any amongst us have endeavoured to divert another from what he knew to be his Duty or hath in saving any part of that Substance which God Commanded to be Destroyed acted contrary to his known Duty 't is justly to be condemned and the Scriptures before-cited may in that Case be termed a proper Allusion thereto But alas this is far remote from the Cases reflected on because some Persons therein concerned have received no Command from God to the contrary nor yet have saved any thing which the Lord commanded to destroy And therefore such may justly thus say How darest thou to Judge the Friends of Truth and Servants of the Lord for that wherein they are not Judged of the Lord Besides 't is worthy Observation that if any should go beyond their proper Gift and Line of right Understanding and in that state offer up their ALL when the Lord calls not for it but instead thereof a Company of Informers and that also by Illegal Ways to devour it on their Lusts this Offering might have no more acceptance with the Lord under this Dispensation of the New Covenant than the Offering of the Blind and the Lame under the First Covenant had And indeed it may not be unnecessary farther to confide the End wherefore the Lord hath made us Stewards of Worldly Estates doubtless 't was and is that therewith we might Maintain our Families and have a due regard to the Poor the Fatherless and the Widow that are or might be Objects of Charity and therefore it may well be deemed not contrary to the Truth Lawfully to preserve the same for the Ends for which 't was given and to endeavour by all Lawful Ways and Means to prevent the Spoylers Design of possessing our Estates to consume it on their Lusts And indeed Charity obligeth us to suppose that these very Considerations occasioned G. F. to advice Mary Penington to secure Worldly Estate from the hands of such who were Supposed in a Persecuting Spirit to Thirst after it though of her self if what G. F. hath Written in relation to this matter be to be credited she had no inclination to remove her moveable goods in order to secure it And if any should question the Truth of this relating to G. F. and Mary Penington we thereto say that Sufficient Witness to Prove Mary Peningtons Confession thereof can be now Produced besides G. F. Being charged therewith did not in his Answer written deny it This our Answer may in probability occasion from some another Objection on this wise Obj. This is but a subtil Evasion of that which is the Duty of all Friends for the Testimony of faithful Friends and the Words of Christ in Answer to Peter and of Samuel to Saul will stand over the Heads of Such Dark Spirits as you are Answ This Objection containing such Language wherewith we are well acquainted from the Mouthes of our Opposers may thus in Truth be Answered That it can no more stand over our Heads than the words of some Priests urging Abrahams payment of Tythes out of spoyles he obtained in War Gen. 14.20 can stand over the Heads of Friends refusing to pay Tythes of those Lands which are their Inheritance or proper purchase and no part of Spoyles obtained in War Those who will not receive this as a full Answer to evidence the Weakness of the last Objection but tenaciously persist in asserting that the said Objection is reasonable and that from the words of Christ and Saul will undoubtedly give Just occasion to confirm the sense of our common Enemies viz. That there are amongst the People called Quakers who make of the Scriptures a meer Nose of Wax for though the Scriptures mention not any Command from God to Abraham to pay unto Melchisedeck the Tenths of his Spoiles yet doubtless he therein did according to the Mind of God even as Saul would have done had he destroyed all according to the Command of God and if what was practised by Abraham might be taken to be an incumbent Duty on Christians at this day even as our Opposers would have what Saul ought to have practised according to the command of God to be Exemplary at this day yet 't is apparent that both one and 'tother had a real relation to what was obtained in War and so no proper Presidents either to pay a Tenth part or to offer up the nine parts with the tenth of that Estate which is our Inheritance or proper Purchase This we are farther sensible may also occasion another Objection to this purpose viz. Obj. Your Discourse seemes to encourage the avoyding all Suffering and then how in this our day shall that Testimony of the Apostle be fullfilled viz. All that will live Godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer Persecution 2 Tim. 3.12 Answ To this we answer Our former discourse encourages the assembling our selves together though not to put into the Mouthes of Informers at their Wills and Pleasures and doubtless Few so Weak but do know that Sufferings of divers kinds may therefore attend so that unless we were Discouragers of Assembling together to wait upon the Lord we cannot reasonably be understood to encourage the avoyding all sufferings And though Pauls Words seem so positive and general yet the meaning of the Spirit through Paul might be more particular viz. in relation to Times Seasons and Persons wherein the Lord might suffer the Adversary to exercise some of his People for the Tryal of their Faith and Patience and not strictly meant that if a man had not suffered Persecution therefore he had not lived Godly in Christ Jesus For who dares to be so uncharitable as to conclude That none who are fallen asleep that tasteth not of Persecution in their day nor had occasion offered for the spoyling of their goods for the Gospels Sake Dyed in the Faith of Gods Elect and of the number of those who lived Godly in Christ Jesus especially since we know it hath been the practice of some who have been apt to reflect as aforesaid to use divers wayes and meanes according to the best of their Skill and Understandings to prevent the Stroke of Persecution in their day Moreover 't is Observable that Paul's Words to Felix c. Acts 26.29 I would to God that not only thou but also all that hear me this Day were both almost and altogether such as I am Except these Bonds did clearly shew that Persecution is not such an absolute Companion to a true Christian as that without it it 's not possible to live Godly in Christ Jesus because no doubt but Paul was then in that state of Godliness and so also would those on whose behalf he so spoke have been had Paul's Desires been Answered notwithstanding he Excepted the Bonds he then was in by reason of Persecution And forasmuch as we know some of our Opposers
and Spirit of God may lead into Rantism and therefore 't is the Care of Faithful Brethren to appear as watch-men over the Flock that so none under pretence of being left to the Light may run into Loosness Lightness and Vanity saying The Light in my Conscience Condemns me not To this we say the Lord rebuke that Spirit that doth so much as Jealous that leaving People to the Light may lead into Rantism such a Sugestion is notoriously wicked since the Testimony of Truth hath been unto which we this day bear record that the Light is a Reprover of all Sin And as to the latter part of the Objection we say That those who are true Watchmen will as much as in them lyes use their Endeavours to bring the Flock to the Light to prove their Deeds whether they are wrought in God and not to Papers rather than to the Light as knowing this that every Work and Word brought forth by Man is but the Effect of what is first wrought in the Heart which nothing outward can be a Bond upon to alter and change and if we do but consider how Fruitless in daies and years that are past as well as in this present Age all Mans Outward endeavours under the notion of Church-Government hath been to preserve in a real true Heavenly Society it appears to us as a meer Badge of Apostacy for any to have a Dependency on any such meanes of Preservation And whereas it 's Jealous'd Some may run into loosness and say the Light in my Conscience condemns me not and therefore t is the care of Faithful Brethren to appear as Watchmen over the Flock We say so too and those who approve themselves Watchmen will endeavour to convince such who in very deed run into Loosness c. that though they may pretend the Light condemns them not yet that their deeds are Evil and that the Light doth condemn that same though they may be hardened and see it not and so endeavour to awaken the Conscience that Gods Witness may be heard for that nothing that is outward can be a Bond on such an one to forsake his Sin and imbrace the Truth SECT VII Touching Church-Government and the meaning of the word Church-Government in the sence of our Opposers as we on sufficient ground take it laid down Our denial of that meaning Several Scriptures from whence a Proof for Church-Government hath been pretended are treated on shewing that from thence no Pretence can be to claim a Power over Conscience or Outward Property The Doctrine touching Power over Conscience and outward things relating to Meum and Tuum as the Authors Terms are which we therefore call Outward Property Examined and testified against as contrary to the Principle of Truth and Liberty we have in Christ Jesus Our sense what ought to be done for the Decision of Controversy with relation to Property between Brother and Brother An Objection raised to this purpose That what is given forth by the Spirit through the Brethren ought to be obeyed and not accounted the Dictates of fallible Man and that if thou see it not thy Duty to obey the Reason is thy Want of Diligence and not waiting in thy Measure and so no Plea for thy Disobedience is Good The said Objection answered An Examination from the Scriptures Whether Christ gave any Incouragement to his Disciples to become Rulers over one another THis kind of Discourse we are ready to suppose may at length occasion from some such an Objection as this Object What are you not for Church-Government Answ To this we say We are for the Government of Christ knowing 't is his Right to Govern his Church Obj. This may some say is an evasive Answer to the Question and therefore may again reply Be plain and tell us Are you for Church-Government Answ For Answer then we say We ought to ask what is meant by the word Church-Government Since we find not the word in the Scriptures of Truth and it being a word mostly used under the profession of Christianity by such who have become Persecutors we are the more Jealous that Corruption Usurpation and Injustice may creep in by such who contend so much for Church-Government with respect to Outwards Forms of Government since the Form some take to Govern is in some respect worse than the Forms of Divers Apostate Christians take this for one instance amongst many more that might be given viz. Judging the Merit of a Cause without hearing both parties as may be sufficiently evidenced by the giving forth that Paper from Ellis Hookes his Chamber London the Twelfth of the Fourth Month 1677. and Subscribed by Charles Marshal and Sixty Five Persons more against two Antient and Honourable Brethren viz. John Wilkinson and John Story though not then present to speak for themselves nor yet ever spoken to by many of the said Sixty Six touching any Evil laid to their Charge Besides we do know that many of our Opposers who appear to us highly affected with Church-Government as in their account is established amongst us and that with respect to Outward Formes do in an high decree manifest a Spirit of Persecution by endeavouring to take away the good name of honest men by Lyes Slanders and False Accusations wherein our Opposers have been to our certain knowledge so industrious as that we have scarcily known their Peers in that evil Work which in many Sections of the Second Part of the first Manuscript made mention of in the Preface Particularly the 13th 18th 12th 22th is laregly evidenced and ready for the view of any Freind that may desire the perusal thereof though for the reasons mentioned in the Preface not herewith publisht And now as to the meaning of the word Church-Government in the sense of our Opposers we take it to be thus viz. That some who account themselves Members of the Body of Christ claime a Power to Rule over other some if not all the rest and to give forth Sentences Directions or Orders which they ought to own receive or obey though they may pretend they see it not their Duty If this be the meaning of the word Church-Government in the sense of our Opposers as we have cause to believe it is not only from R. B's Book of Government but also from what hath been said or propagated by others which we are Perswaded will appear to all impartial Readers who shall diligently and in an unprejudiced Spirit weigh the Second part of the said first Manuscript mentioned in the Preface which as we said before is ready for the perusal of any Friend desiring so to do though for the reason mentioned in the Preface not herewith publisht we then directly answer we are not for such a Church-Government This Subject whereof we are now treating being as some may comparatively say the very Hinge on which the present Controversy seems to depend we think it necessary to quote those Scriptures from whence so far as ever we
to Add. If Paul lookt on himself as one having Power to command to rule and govern over the Church of Christ and that 't was their Duty to Obey him whether they saw it so or no what 's the meaning that the same Paul testifies for himself and other his Brethren 2 Cor. 4.2 That they had not handled the Word of God deceitfully but by Manifestation of the Truth commending themselves to every Mans Conscience in the Sight of God comparing this with what Paul writes in the same Epistle 2 Cor. 10.15 Having Hope when your Faith is increased that we shall be enlarged by you according to our Rule abundantly it appears evidently to us that preaching up Obedience to that wherein the Conscience through Faith is not satisfied is a handling the Word of God deceitfully and therefore though we have been Informed that we are dark and blind even by such who tell us they do see publickly Preaching on this wise If you do not see your selves you must then follow us that do see yet we cannot on that foot embrace such Doctrine lest like blind men we fall all together into the Ditch and embrace that for the light of the Sun which is no other than the dark Body of the MOON We are now sensible another Objection may thus arise Object The Spirit of God which is but one in all hath moved in our Brethren to give forth certain Orders Commands and Prescriptions and therefore we ought accordingly to Obey and this cannot be called the Dictates of Fallible Man but of the Spirit given forth through Man and wast thou that pretendest thou seest it not thy Duty to Obey but Obedient to thy own Measure thou wouldest then see it so and be one with the Brethren and therefore we cannot but tell thee 't is thy Duty to Obey since the Reason thou seest it not thy Duty is thy want of Diligence and not waiting on thy own Measure besides we find that that very Person who hath travelled much for the settling of Mens Meetings hath lately given forth a Paper the import whereof is to Justifie Prescriptions Answ To this we say That if the Spirit of God moves in any Member of the Body of Christ to give forth certain Orders and Prescriptions with respect to the rest of the Members as that which though relating to their Consciences they ought to perform and practise whether they see it their Duty or no or whether they are free so to do or no then no doubt but they ought so to act and do because the Spirit of Truth hath so moved but this is to suppose that which under the Dispensation of the Second Covenant we have not the least ground from the Scriptures of Truth or Light of Christ to suppose For if the Blind was not to be accepted of for a sacrifice under the First Covenant much less can it be acceptable under the Second And therefore we do not believe that we ought to expect that any such motion from the Spirit of God should appear through any one or more Members of the Body of Christ with respect to other Members of the same Body and our Faith is that all those who are Heirs of that Kingdom which is everlasting are entituled to a like Freedom not to be Imposed upon each by other contrary to the Divine sense and Heavenly Understanding which as Co-heires and Co-workers together they are made Partakers of And this in the ensuing discourse will evincingly be manifested from the Scriptures of Truth however we must confess he that is not diligent to wait upon God in the Exercise of his own Measure of Grace received is by the Light of Christ condemnable not for refusing to perform that which he sees not to be his Duty with respect to other mens Lines made ready to his hand wherein he is not satisfied but for his neglecting to wait upon God because 't is manifest in every one that hath been convinced of the Truth that 't is our Duty to wait upon God And this our sense and reason answers to the Testimony of the Scriptures of Truth where 't is said Rom. 1.18 19. The Wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all Ungodlyness and Unrighteousness of Men who hold the Truth in Unrighteousness because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it unto them So 't is clear to us from the Scriptures of Truth without us as well as from the Light of Christ within us that the Wrath and Condemnation of God goes forth against such as Live not Answerable to what God hath manifested in them but 't is neither agreeable to the Scriptures of Truth or Light within for any to poure forth Judgments against any for not following or giving heed unto this or 'tother Prescription or Outward Observation wherein the Conscience is concerned when such are not convinced thereof to be their Duty from the manifestation of Gods Spirit in them The next thing to be considered is this that in all the last mentioned Objection there is no Plea for Obedience unto or following any thing but the Spirit in its Appearance whether through the Brethren or thy self From whence we observe First That there is no certain Description who are meant by the word Brethren Secondly That 't is the Appearance of the Spirit that we ought to follow Now should this Question be ask't of such who may so Object as aforesaid Would you have us follow we know not what we are ready to Believe that they would say Nay if they answered any thing to the Question and if so then the Force of the Objection falls for that we account it our Duty to follow the Appearance of the Spirit of God through the meanest Member when our Consciences are convinced that 't is the Appearance of that Spirit But before we cannot say in Truth though we should do as such an one would have us that we are Followers of and led by the Spirit of God no more than Jesus can in Truth be called Lord * 1 Cor. 12.13 and not by the Holy Ghost Besides we cannot on this occasion but testifie that as that Obedience which is of Faith in Christ finds Acceptance with the Lord * Rom. 14.23 so that Obedience which is not of Faith being Sin is but a dead Performance and not the Fruit of a living Member who through the Obedience of Faith unto Righteousness is made alive unto God And therefore it cannot be the Duty of any Member of Christ's Body to run before his Inward Guide but to wait upon the Lord that all his Actions may be regulated according to the Manifestation and Revelation of the Spirit of God in himself which seems clearly agreeable to the Testimony of the Apostle where he thus saith Phil. 3.15 16. If in any thing ye be otherwise minded God shall reveal even this unto you nevertheless whereunto we have already attained let us walk
process of time some Friends thought it necessary that Marriages might be proposed to the Womens Meetings but yet several Friends in divers Countryes would not assent that the Distinct Meetings of Women should be concerned in Marriages at length several of those who had appeared for those Distinct Meetings to be concerned said * Note It appears in a reply Written against John Story 's and John Wilkinson's Answers to the 44 Articles this is that which G. F. Exhorted to in the Beginning and Blessed be the Lord the Faithfull see a Necessity and Cause to propose the Marraiges to the Faithful Men and Womens Meetings and whether their sight is not Dark that see not the Necessity of proposing their Marriages to the Faithful Men and Women in their Distinct Meetings This being uttered by those of party which G. F. as we take them was thought very strange for that as divers Friends of Bristol have testifie G. F. proposed not his Marraiges to the Womens Distinct Meeting in Bristol where his Marriage was accomplished though such a Meeting was held there many years before Besides in a Paper of Direction given forth by Gorege Fox he Directs that the mens Meeting may be acquainted with Marraiges and saith nothing of proposing them to the Womens Distinct Meetings which clearly shews that those who writ the aforesaid Answer and G. F. seem not at Unity therein But this as we suppose not being known to many some were very urgent to impose that Practice on Friends or else to render such as Opposed Dark Spirits which occasioned many Friends to be Jealous that a Submision was not only intended to Meetings of Men but Womens Meetings also and therefore Friends who in simplicity assented to the latter Meetings as supposing Women insome Cases fitter to pry into the Necessities of the Poor than Men considering also what weak People have frequented Mens Meetings did at length begin to be Jealous that the words of the Prophet Isaiah 3.12 were again fulfilled in our Age As for my People Children are their Oppressors and Women rule over them Oh my Poeple they which lead thee cause thee to Err. This Jealousie encreasing many of those who were contented that Women should hold their Meetings apart from the Men to take care of the Poor in some Cases became less affected to such Meetings lest instead of being Servants to the Poor for the Truths Sake and taking the weight and Burthen of that Care from the Men they should become Rulers over both Men and Women and that which seemed to confirm the Reasonableness of the said Jealousy was this It hath been observed that though Womens Meetings were assented to to take care of the Poor in some Cases as the chief if not the only end thereof yet there is so little said concerning that End in a Book relating to Womens Meetings given forth by G. F. that 't is now a Question with many whether that be not one of the least Services intended at this day thereby because we do not find but that all spoken in Relation thereto in the whole Book consisting of ninety six Pages in Octavo might be comprehended in less than half a side of the said Book and the drift and scope of the Book seems to be chiefly for Proof of Womens Offering Sacrifices Preaching Teaching Instructing Exhorting Admonishing Prophesying Governing Judging Singing Dancing Playing upon Musick and that Micahs Mother an Idolotrous Woman spoken of Judges 17. was a virtuous one and that the Assemblies of Women did continue among the Jews til they went into Transgression but for Proof quotes only 2 Kings 23. where we find nothing spoken of any Assemblies of Women save only of those Women who in the Houses of the Sodomites which good King Josiah broke down wove Hangings for the Groves which the same King caused to be burnt To conclude as to this third Particular we have this further to say so it is that many Jarrs and Jangles have arisen touching Meetings of Women and the End and Service thereof some think them useful in Cityes where many Poor are and the Women Meeters near together but yet divers of the same Persons think them useless in the Countries where few Poor are and the Women live Far assunder and for ought we know some observing the ill consequence that hath attended them in divers Places may think it had been better they had never been held amongst us For our parts on the whole matter we say 't is a Shame for a Man to become an Instrument that Womens Meetings should be held Chiefly if not only under pretence of serving and relieving the Poor in some cases more effectual then before and yet Publish a Book under pretence of incouraging the said Meetings whence it is thereby apparent that some other End is now at least if not from the Beginning aimed at than was manifested plainly in the Beginning This in short seems not like plain dealing and the Fruit thereof is manifest to be Evil for many who have been as Pillars in those Meetings to this Day have been reflected upon as Discouragers of the said Meetings not because their Persons and Purses are wanting therein but rather because they cannot be at Unity with such airy Imaginations which some who as they may take it seem Affectors of Government and Lovers of Preheminence do bring forth concluding they are entred into the Possession of the Power of God because they take upon them to be Members of a Womans Meeting distinct from the Men those who on that foot so conclude we cannot but take to be Ignorant of the Power of God notwithstanding they may quote G. F. for Proof of such their Reason who writing to Thomas Goldney signifies that he was moved to set up Womens Meetings that all might be in the Possession of the Power of the Lord. That now which is upon our Spirits to recommend unto all in the Love of our God as the only Expedient for the healing of these Breaches in a few words is this Let every one lay down their Crowns at the Feet of Jesus our Lord and those who have striven for Outward Rules Government and Preheminence over their Brethren when the Lord hath not called them thereto say in their Hearts Let the time past be sufficient and for time to come let us study Peace as Servants to one Lord and Master Jesus Christ the Righteous one who by his inshining Light is become our Lawgiver that so the antient Love towards all our Brethren in the Truth may be Witnessed and renewed each towards other to the Consolation of one anothers Souls in the Lord. Having thus far proceeded to manifest a part of those things touching which the Faithfull were at Unity and the ways and Meanes whereby that Unity was Broken we think meet now to cite an Epistle perfixt to the Historical Manuscript made mention of in the Preface to this Treatise being a Proper Testimony on this occasion for and
all Men were to praise him or to speak of his Wonders for they were altogether past finding out then I wept greatly and desired only that he would permit me to sit at his Feet and he swore unto me by himself That he would deliver me from all my Troubles within without and truly it was his own free Promise for I durst not ask it of him but was contented to have waited still in my Sorrowfull Condition all the Days of my Life that I had to spend amongst Men. But what shall I say I am contented with his Will and rest at his Feet Friends I am constrained by the Spirit of Endless Love to warn you all that you may forbear Judging of any Man any more upon any Pretence whatsoever but commit all Judgement to the Son for he cryeth in me that he will shortly appear with righteous Judgment upon the Earth and Wo was upon him that hath took upon him to sit upon my seat of Judgment and hath not Judged Righteously for the same Measure that he meeteth shall be met to him again for whosoever I find upon my seat of Judgment when I come if he be not as I am Holy Just and Mercifull without any mixture him will I destroy with the Breath of my Mouth for he is as unclean Smoak before me Therefore Dear Friends let all Unrighteousness be far from you for thus saith the Voice in me Whosoever I find in Envy the same Envy shall be his Torment and whosoever in Covetousness or in Pride or any unclean Mind that same shall be their Cloathing and they shall stand behind me and all that is with me having no other Garment but their own Filthyness For the Envious shall have their Envy for their Reward and the Covetous shall have his Covetousness and whatsoever his work shall be here that shall be his covering when I appear Therefore all People mind your own Souls and let nothing but what is like the same Holiness Righteousness Mercy and Love without respect of Persons in any-wise appear and let Covetousness be far from you and be you as he was in this World that you may be like him in his Glory for verily you cannot be like him in his Glory further than you are in his Nature of Holiness Therefore all Friends look into your Hearts and let no spark abide there of the old nature for if there be it will drive you to look out at others and in that time 't will gather Strength and kindle a great Fire in you which is not easily put out which many at this day may know Edward Burroughs Though many things are very worthy notice from the above-cited lines given forth through the Servant of the Lord Edward Burroughs and obvious enough to many yet for the sakes of some 't is thought meet to take notice of two particular Matters which seem very pertinent on this Occasion First That some of the young unlearned Dogs not well acquainted with the Masters Manner in gathering the Sheep did run from the Flock with fierceness after the Sheep that staid behind and did affrighten them and bite some of them neither would they be led nor yet stay at home but would always be going abroad and barking at the Lambs to affrighten them being ready to devour them for there was something of the Nature of the Wolf in them and them the Shepherd bound up in Chains to fulfil his purpose on them Secondly That some of the Dogs well acquainted with the Masters Manner did wisely goe behind the Sheep and such did drive them gently along without hunting of them or wearying themselves From these two Citations out of the aforesaid Paper we may learn that the Spirit of the Lord thorough his Servant hath in a Parable very lively described a part of what hath happened amongst the Flock of God in these latter Days for of certain knowledge we can say that there are such as are learned in the School of Christ who being well acquainted with Christ Jesus their Lord and Masters Manner of gathering the Sheep do not over-drive the Flock nor yet weary themselves for meer Vanity and there are also the Unlearned who are not acquainted with the great Masters Manner in gathering the Sheep and these in a great Measure have occasioned the Encrease and Continuation of Division amongst the People called Quakers by their fierce contending for an outward Unity and Conformity with respect to Forms of Government in the Church so that they seem not only ready to bite but also to devour others that see not clearness in themselves to practise according as they in their hunting Spirit would as much as in them lies constrain and inforce Nay there are some not only unacquainted with Christ Jesus's Manner of gathering the Flock like a Shepherd that gathers his Lambs in his Armes and gently leadeth them that are with Young but also have laid blame on such as have exactly Walked in his Footsteps And indeed so Foolish and Confident have some been that the masters manner of gathering the Flock hath become as a By-Word or a Mock and not only so but Matter of Evil Fact in the sense of some Witness the Forty Four Articles Relating to Church-Government drawn up against J. S. and J. W. two Ancient and Honourable Friends in the Truth a part whereof is for that they should say THEY WOULD NOT HAVE FRIENDS OVER-DRIVEN To Conclude We also know that some of these have been by the Spirit of Truth Reproved as not fit to say they speak in the Name of the Lord When the Lord hath not spoken by them nor yet to appear as if they were sent of God to gather the Flock or to Proclaim themselves Keepers of other Folks Vineyards when they have not kept their own Vineyard by which it appears that the will of the Lord touching such hath been that they should Hearken unto the Word of Reproof and be led by his Spirit which if they had they would have stay'd at home until they had been Instructed and Learn'd in the School of Christ but yet notwithstanding some have contrary hereunto gone abroad and their great Work hath been to cry out against Honest Friends under the notion of Dark Spirits levened Spirits Troublers of Israel Corah's Judases c. just like unto those Young Unlearned Dogs signified in the Parable that would not be led but would be going abroad and Barking at the Lambs to affrighten them being ready to devour them for as in the Parable 't is said there hath been something of the Nature of the Wolf in them But Blessed be the Lord many are Witnesses that of late some of them have been as in Chains and Fetters of Iron so that they are not able to Prey upon those who are upon the Rock Christ who doubtless in his own time will fulfil his Purpose on them Oh! that all Concern'd herein at this Day would seriously Consider Proceed no farther in
which the enemy of the Soul of Man hath spread before him since his first coming forth to Preach the Light c. to concern himself so much as he hath against some that cannot own an urging with severity his Directions or Prescriptions on Gods Faithfull People and in Particular to appear a Persecutor of such which can certainly be proved against him if endeavouring unjustly to take away a mans Good Name and Reputation can be termed such To this the Answer is As the Serpent beguiled Eve so Eve beguiled Adam in prevailing upon him to eat of the Forbidden Fruit which she had eaten and the Argument used by the Serpent to tempt Eve was this Ye shall be as Gods Even so are we persuaded that there hath not been wanting unto him to speak comparitively a tempting Eve which hath been too aspiring after such a State which with respect to humble self-denying Persecuted Members of Christs Church is neither fit nor presidented and yet 't is to be doubted that this aspiring Mind hath had so much place with him as that he hath taken too much upon him which hath occasioned Rents and Divisions amongst the flock and sometimes to pretend that he hath seen things in the Vision of the Almighty which hath been no other than the Imagination of his own Heart and having given way thereto and finding a fear upon Friends thorough a tender respect unto him to Judge or dislike what he might bring forth under pretence of the Motion of the Spirit it in Probability encreast his Confidence especially when he considered what had been written unto him by some Friends in the Day of their Infancy which being in such Language as was suitable to an aspiring mind might tend to his hurt At length his fame grew so great as that amongst some Weak Friends it became even as a Proverb that none would prosper who should oppose him This by others hath clearly been seen to be a subtil way to obliege all such as should so believe to be Servants to his Will and for ought we know this Perswasion hath the more easily obtained him the repute with some of being set by the Lord in the like place amongst the Children of Light at this Dayas Moses had amongst the Children of Israel in his Day and this we doubt is the Occasion that the Rebellion of Corah Dathan and Abiram is much treated on to affrighten Simple People in our Publick Meetings for Worship of God since the Divisions amongst Friends especially in those Places where G. F's Papers relating to Church-Government have little place But alas those who are sound in the Faith cannot be affrighted with such things no more than they can be convinced with the sight of such False Certificates * Note The Reader may peruse the Fifth Part of the Christian Quaker and therein the said Certificates are more largely treated on recorded in the 21st Section of the Manuscript first mentioned in the Preface and ready for perusal of any Friend desiring the sight thereof as of late have been spread abroad in his Favour to render him an Innocent Man and to acquit him from the Guilt of some Matters of Fact laid to his charge when the Certifiers knew nothing at all thereof and of this he himself could not be Ignorant though the Occasion of spreading such Certificates abroad if he knew what was contained therein which would have been proved to his Face had he been but so Just to the cause of Truth as to have submitted to a hearing according as was desired and in the Preface signified before Friends of things Reproachful to the Truth whereof he is guilty But notwithstanding all this we dare not say that his Preaching the Light in the beginning of his Travels abroad as well as the Preaching the Light by others his Fellow-Servants in the Beginning with him was not the Ministration given them of God for at the sound thereof many Faces gathered Paleness Horror and Amazement seized many who then became sensible of their Lost State and Condition whilest they were admiring their Teachers and busied in Outward Ordinances more than in the Cross of Christ And that Day wherein many were not only so strucken with Amazement but through Faith received the Testimony given touching the Light of Christ might truly be termed The Day of their Infancy in the Truth and so the more likely to be prevailed upon by the Enemy who in that Day as in Ages past sought how he might destroy that Tenderness to the Truth which was so begotten for 't is certainly known that many whose Eyes ought to have been unto the Creator Admiring and giving Glory unto him for his Gifts of Grace and Ministration of Light then revealed did on a sudden admire the Creature in such an abundant manner as if not only the planting and watering were by him but the Encrease also and in that Day some whom the Lord hath made as Watchmen in the House of Israel were concerned thereat and Jealous with a Godly Jealousie and though at present 't is not with us to declare what that Jealousie was yet if the Tree may be known by its Fruit we may with Boldness affirm that the then admiring the Creature might be truely paraleld with that State out of which the Lord through the Ministration of Light or Spirit of Life had led many at that Day who had so learned the Truth as according to the Testimony thereof to have their Eye to the Light within viz. the Light of Christ and not instead thereof to any Outward Person through whom amongst other Brethren the Ministration of Light was revealed But yet notwithstanding some there were as before is signified that admired the Creature which not only became unto them a snare but 't is much to be doubted unto the Creature also that was admired for the Acceptation of more respect than was meet stands in the same ground with the Offering thereof and 't is too much to be feared that the imprudent Acceptation of what was unduely offered hath begot a Spirit of Pride and Exaltation in G. F. which the Lord is determined for his Name-Sake to bring into the Dust and if he did but seriously mind his State and Condition and was but more ready to appear little in his own eyes than to be accounted Great in the Eyes of others and not give way to such a false Imagination that true Judgment was committed to him in all things which can now be Testified was spoken by him and that at that time wherein his Judgement was known to be false and that he may take a Liberty knowingly to put Stumbling Blocks in the way of Gods People and yet be justified therein * Note When William Rogers discoursed with him touching this particular Passage in his Book of Womens Meetings And was not Micahs Mother a virtuous Woman Read Judges 17 and then a few Lines after though she was an Idolotrous Woman sayeth these and such
all men that I might by all means save some and this I do for the Gospel sake But to return 'T is evident that John testified concerning Christ and himself on this wise Joh. 3.30 He must increase but I must decrease which if the whole scope of the Scriptures relating to Baptism be considered seems clearly to hint that therein John spoke not with respect to his Person but that administration of Water-Baptism whereof he was a Minister Moreover we find the Apostle Paul testifying 1 Cor. 1.14 15 17. I thank God I baptised none of you but Crispus and Gaius lest any should say I have baptised in my own Name and I baptised also the house of Stephanus Besides I know not whether I baptised any other for Christ sent me not to baptise but to preach the Gospel Which being compared with what he writes unto the Ephesians Eph. 4.4 5 6. There is one Body one Spirit even as ye are called in one Hope of your Calling one Lord one Faith one Baptism one God and Father of all And with what he writes to the Colossians where Circumcision is equallised with Baptism Col. 2.11 12. its clear to every enlightned eye that Paul was by the Spirit led to Exalt One Only Baptism which doubtless was the Baptism of the Spirit unto which he gave Testimony when he writ to the Corinthians on this wise 1 Cor. 12.13 For by one spirit are we all baptised into one Body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be Bond or Free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit More might be written on this Subject from the Scriptures of Truth to evidence the matter intended but at present we shall forbear further to enlarge thereon CHAP. X. Touching the Supper of the Lord with his Disciples the night before he was betrayed FOrasmuch as the Children of Light amongst those called Quakers have been reputed Apostutised from the true Faith and Disowners of Gospel Ordinances not only because since they have believed in the sufficiency of God's Grace given by God and inwardly received by them they have not been found in the Outward Practices of VVater Baptism of which in the last Chapter we have already treated but also for that they as the Church of Christ are not principled to meet together at some certain appointed times and seasons to break Bread and drink Wine as that which according to the reputed institution of Christ they ought to do in a more solemn manner than at other times and then term such their eating and drinking the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper or Communion and Participation of the Body and Blood of Christ It is therefore thought meet at this time to treat somewhat on this Subject evidencing that the Doctrine published by Christ at his Last Supper is owned by us and in order thereunto 't is thus observed when the Disciples of Christ the Night before he was betrayed were eating the Passover with him the Evangelist thus declares Luk. 22.19 20. And he took Bread and gave thanks and brake it and gave unto them saying This is my Body which is given for you this do in remembrance of me Likewise also the Cup after Supper saying This Cup is the New Testament in my Blood which is shed for you The aforesaid words This do in remembrance of me is the only sentence spoken by Christ whereof the Scripture makes mention whereby the institution of the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper so called may be pretended to be proved from which words it naturally follows that Christ's Disciples were to do something which he then did which undoubtedly was to give Thanks and break Bread in remembrance of him and according to this Command we believe 't is the duty of every Christian both in Eating and Drinking to receive the same with thankful hearts and to be not only at such times and seasons but at other times also in the remembrance of the Benefits whereof the faithful are Partakers through the death of Christ and those who thus believe and thus practise which the faithful People of God amongst those called Quakers do own the Doctrine of Christ at his Last Supper and if we said no more we have said enough to evidence what we have undertaken to do viz. That the Doctrine publish'd by Christ at his last Supper is owned by us But since it is so that divers places of Scriptures have been taken by many professing Christianity to signifie that the primitive Christians were found in the practice of administring and receiving the Sacrament of the Supper so called 't is further signified what may be pretended to be said in favour thereof after Christ ascended Acts 2. it appears that after the pouring forth of the Holy Ghost Peter stood up and preached unto the Jews at which Sermon there were added unto the Church about three thousand touching whom verse the 42. 't is thus said And they continued stedfastly in the Apostles Doctrine and Fellowship and in Breaking of Bread and in Prayers No doubt but this is taken for a manifest Proof of the use of the Sacrament of the Supper so called as practised by the Professors of Christianity at this day but whether on sufficient ground is now the question for our parts we testifie it appears groundless to us for verse the 44th 't is said All that believed were together and had all things common and verse the 46th thus And they continuing daily with one accord in the Temple and breaking Bread from house to house did eat their own meat with gladness and singleness of heart praising God These Scriptures being duely weighed clearly manifest that as often as they did cat they had all things common and praised God and that here 's no ground to believe that the daily Breaking of Bread there spoken of had a relation to daily solemn appointed Meetings wherein the Apostles did take bread bless break it and distribute it under the notion of a Sign unto them that they were made Partakers of the Body of Christ whereby the Soul is nourished but rather that at those Opportunities their outward Bodies and Hunger were refreshed and satisfied which in the Apostle Paul's sense was not eating of the Lord's Supper as is manifest 1 Cor. 11.20 21 22 33 34. Moreover if we do but compare the aforesaid Scriptures Acts 2.42 46. with what is written Acts 6. from the beginning to the 7th verse 't is rational to conclude that in their daily breaking bread from house to house no other Institution Ordinance or Sacrament was hinted at than what was neglected toward the Grecian widows mentioned Acts 6.1 which Neglect occasioned a choice of seven Deacons because 't was not judged reasonable that the Apostles should leave the Word of God and serve Tables which service there hinted at was doubtless a Ministration of Outward Food for the nourishment of the Outward Man and not the nourishment of the soul Acts 20.7
'T is thus said And upon the first day of the week when the Disciples came together to break Bread Paul preached unto them ready to depart on the morrow and continued his speech until midnight and in the following verses 't is signified that when Paul came up again from taking up a young man who as Paul was long preaching sunk down with sleep and fell down from the third loft and was taken up dead and had broken bread and eaten and talked a long time even until break of day he departed On this Scripture it may be observed that no mention is made that the aforesaid Breaking of Bread was done in pursuance of any Institution made by Christ at his Last Supper nor yet that the end thereof was that they might be on that occasion in a more solemn Commemoration of the Death of Christ than at other times wherein they might refresh their outward man with Carnal food and therefore though I cannot but have so much Charity for the Disciples of Christ as to believe that when they did so eat as aforesaid they were in the remembrance of the Benefits through Christ's Death as every true Christian ought to be and more especially whilst participating of his Mercies yet the Scriptures already named seem no rational Proof of any such solemn Institution made by Christ which many under the Profession of Christianity pretend to have practised 1 Cor. 10.16 The cup of blessing which we bless is it not the communion of the blood of Christ The bread which we break is it not the Communion of the Body of Christ Considering the mind of the spirit through the Apostle in the very same Epistle we appeal unto such who are knowing in the Mysteries of God's Kingdom whether 't is not unreasonable to take the Meaning of the Spirit to be that this had a Tendency to Encourage Outward Meetings wherein Outward Bread ought to be broken and communicated as a Sign of being Partakers of Christ's Body or to prove any solemn Institution made by Christ more than what may as well be alledged from the words of John to be then instituted by Christ when he said John 6.51 56. I am the living Bread which cometh down from heaven if any man eat of this bread he shall live for ever he that eateth my Flesh and drinketh my Blood dwelleth in me and I in him For we find the Apostle Paul in the very next verse thus signifying For we being many are one Bread and one Body for we are Partakers of that one Bread This one bread whereof the Apostle speaks is not outward Bread but Christ and his Church dwelling each in other according to the aforesaid Testimony of Christ He that eateth my Flesh and drinketh my Blood dwelleth in me and I in him 1 Cor. 11.23 24 25 26. Paul thus said For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took Bread and when he had given thanks he brake it and said Take eat this is my Body which is broken for you this do in remembrance of me After the same manner also he took the Cup when he had supped saying this Cup is the New Testament in my Blood this do ye as often as ye drink it in remembrance of me for as often as ye eat this Bread and drink this Cup ye do shew the Lord's Death till he come This Scripture is taken as a pertinent Proof for the Administration of the Sacrament of the Supper so called as a Gospel Ordinance The first thing needful to be considered in order to the having a right understanding of the mind of the Spirit through Paul in this matter is the occasion whereon 't was written which is signified from ver 17. to 23. of the same Chapter from whence it appears That the Corinthians came not togeâ—her for the better but for the worse for that when they came together Paul heard there were divisions amongst them and that in eating every one took before the other his own supper and that one was hungry and another drunken and that this was not to eat the Lord's Supper and then proceeds to relate what he had delivered unto them as an evidence that their Practice was not to be justified or owned from any thing delivered unto them by him 'T is now necessary to consider what may and what may not be inferred as pertinent to the matter in hand from what Paul delivered to the Corinths It cannot be inferred that those who worthily did eat of that Bread and drink of that Cup mentioned verses 24 25. which we will not deny to be outward were after the receiving thereof made Partakers of Christ's Body for though ver 27. the Apostle thus saith Whosoever shall eat this Bread and drink this Cup of the Lord unworthily shall be guilty of the Body and Blood of the Lord yet he doth not on this occasion say that the Worthy Receiver is Partaker of the Body of Christ and why but because that was not the declared end what then was the declared end the end from Paul's words seems to be to shew the Lord's death till he come for verse 26. he thus saith For as often as ye eat this Bread and drink this Cup ye do shew the Lord's death till he come in remembrance whereof man may be and yet no Partaker of his Body and as to these words till he come they may reasonably be taken to relate to his coming to man in Spirit and if so there is no pretence from Paul's words that such ought to continue in the aforesaid Practice for the remembrance of Christ's Death who are witnesses of his coming in the spirit by which as living members of his spiritual Body they are attained unto the End wherefore a remembrance of his Death was accounted needful And as to these words Whosoever shall eat this Bread and drink this Cup of the Lord unworthily shall be guilty of the Body and Blood of the Lord it may be said that no command is herein contained to prove that the Sacrament of the Supper so called ought to be or to have been practised but yet we confess that from these words it 's Rational to conclude That Paul had a Sense that some might take occasion to meet together to break Bread and to Drink and forasmuch as the use thereof was abused it might be a necessary Caution in Paul to signify that the Unworthy Eaters were guilty of the Body and Blood of Christ because if they made Conscience thereof as doubtless those who so practised would profess they did even as some others made Conscience of Observing a Day the Abuse thereof could not but become Sin unto them by which the Just is Crucifyed And therefore Such might as Justly be accounted Guilty of the Body and Blood of Christ as those who having tasted of the Good Word of God were by their Falling away
Brethren their Sin will Cry aloud in the Ears of the Lord of Hosts Dated this 20th of the 3d. Month 1677. Thomas Gouldney William Ford William Rogers POST-SCRIPT WE whose Names are hereunto Subscribed do thus Testify that though all things are not so within the compass of our Knowledge or Remembrance as to Subscribe all that is in the above-written Paper yet being also present in our Mens-Meeting where the first above Recited Paper against John Story and John Wilkinson was Read it is with us to give this Testimony that we do not own the Judgment against John Story and John Wilkinson contained in the said Recited Paper neither are we in our Consciences convinced that the said John Story and John Wilkinson have so behaved themselves in the Church of God or elsewhere as in the aforesaid Recited Paper as Consideration for the Judgment against them is Rehearsed To Friends Assembled at Ellis Hookes his Chamber the 12th of the 4th Month 1677. London Cornelius Serjant William Dawson Thomas Watkins And diverse other Friends According to the aforesaid Direction the Answer of the Friends of Bristol was sent to London to be Communicated to the sixty six Subscribers that met at Ellis Hooks his Chamber whereof Charles Marshal was one and though several General Meetings have since been yet no general Reply thereto is come to any of their Hands concerned in the aforesaid Answer nor yet any Excommunication for their so doing But yet we must confess that the Four Subscribers thereof living in Bristol took upon them to say something to one part thereof to which a Reply was made manifesting at least their notorious Weakness if so be Charity may excuse them from willful Wickedness for their replying in the manner they did and occasioning others to affirm whereof they knew not And forasmuch as no Rejoinder is come from them to the said Reply we hope that the Reason thereof is from a Convincement of their Errour in concerning themselves as they have done We also must confess that Jasper Batt of Somersetshire and three other Subscribers to the said Paper from Ellis Hooks his Chamber did concern themselves to give Answer unto some other part thereof and by their Answer it Appears that they cannot own the sence of Bristol Friends in Denying that it came from the general Meeting But were it so that in reality it came from them no Doubt but the said Jasper Batt and his three Companions would have obtained from the next General Meeting a Testimony to that purpose but no such Testimony or Approbation of the said Paper from Ellis Hookes his Chamber Subscribed by Charles Marshal aad sixty five more hath to this Day been given forth as ever we could understand We also Confess that one other Subscriber of the said Paper writ something in Vindication thereof by way of Reply to divers Friends in Wiltshire who had given their Testimony against it likewise But further Testimony in Writing in Vindication thereof against such as have opposed it we understand not But yet ye must further Confess that Charles Marshal by his late keeping on his Hat when John Story hath been in Prayer is no Token of his Repentance The Consideration of what is thus Observed is some ground of reasonable Hope that Fifty six of the said sixty six Subscribers are come to a Sense of their Weakness and that their Understandings are opened to behold their Errour That now the Reader may have a little taste of that Spirit in which Jasper Batt and his three Companions Writ their Reply we think meet to Note a part thereof The said Jasper and his three Companions take notice of this Position contained in the Answer of Bristol Friends to the said Paper Subscribed by Charles Marshal and Sixty Five more Position of Bristol Friends viz. Were it so that these Sixty Six were such qualified Members in the Church of Christ as that none on the Score of Apostleship or Eldership might have a greater pretence of Power to call John Story and John Wilkinson before them yet we Affirm that neither the said Sixty Six nor any other Assembly on Earth have Power to give Judgment in such a Case other than for Contempt of Authority and not a judgment on the Merit of the Cause though it were on the Hearing of One Party Answered by Jasper Batt and his three Companions viz. Do you not shew your selves ignorant of the Scriptures and of the Power judgment given to the Saints of the most High and of the Anointing by which the Saints did know and were to try the Spirits And was this Tryal to be without Judgment Or were not the Saints to Judge or was that Judgment which they were to give only in Contempt or whether did not they judge the Merits of the Cause as well as Contempt of Authority Though we grant they did Judge Contempt of Authority which also is for Judgment as you may Read both in Peter and Jude for we see there were such in those Days as is now Who did despise Government Presumptuous Self-willed they are not afraid to speak Evil of Dignities which have forsaken the right way and gone astray and so Wells without Water and Clouds that are carried with a Tempest c. Jude saith These be they who separate themselves Read Peter and Jude through and let those Scriptures be rightly applied and see to whom they belong And further did not Paul judge the Merits of the Cause when he Wrote to them at Galatia and told them of being removed to another Gospel and to be bewitched for not obeying the Truth Did not he judge them for a Perswasion that did not come from him that called them And was not this a Judgment on the Merits of the Cause Did not he say He that troubleth you shall bear his Judgment whosoever he be Did not he Judge Dissimulation and some for not walking according to the Truth of the Gospel Gal. 2.13 14. Did not Paul Judge Hymeneus and Alexander for putting away Faith and good Conscience and Delivered them unto Satan Was not here a Judgment on the Merit of the Cause And we further Query Have not they put away Faith and good Conscience who Flee in time of Persecution Pay Tythes and Countenance them that do Which through Faith and for a good Conscience Friends in the beginning were led to bear Testimony against Our Observation on the aforesaid Position written by the Friends of Bristol and the Reply thereto is this First 'T is impossible that Queries can be a Positive Answer to a Positive Position Secondly That whosoever peruses the Answer of Bristol-Friends shall find that the words Iudgment in such a Case relates to a Judgment given without a Hearing for that 't was impossible John Story and John Wilkinson could be heard in their Case by those before whom they appeared not to state their Case And therefore if Queries might be a proper Answer yet those proposed as Answer are
designed to be treated upon is the Government of Christ which we do not believe to be represented by visible persons certainly known by outward Names distinguish'd by outward marks and tokens and invested with Power from him to execute Outward Laws in an Outward Form of Government visible by our Carnal Eyes as aforesaid That the Government of Christ is an Inward Government is evident from the words of the Prophet Jeremiah Jer. 31.31 32 33. I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel c. not according to the Covenant that I made with your Fathers but this shall be the Covenant that I will make c. After those days I will put my Law in their Inward Parts and write it in their Hearts and will be their God and they shall be my People and they shall teach no more every man his Neighbour and every man his Brother saying know the Lord for they shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest of them saith the Lord. This we believe was spoken with respect to the Reign of Christ by his Spirit in the Hearts of the Sons and Daughters of Men and clearly shews that the Laws of Christ's Government under the new Covenant are written in the Hearts of his People and therefore an Inward Government Objection But if any shall object That the words of the Prophet relate not to those who are of the Gentile Stock of which Stock according to the Flesh it may be said that we are We thereto say That the words of Paul do effectually answer that Objection Rom. 10.12 There is no difference between the Jew and the Gentile for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him Col. 3.9 10 11. Lie not one to another seeing that you have put off the Old Man with his deeds and have put on the New Man which is renewed in Knowledge after the Image of him that created him where there is neither Gentile nor Jew Circumcision nor Uncircumcision Barbarian Scythian Bond nor Free but Christ is all and in all Many other Scriptures both out of the Prophets and Apostles Writings might be quoted to evidence the matter intended We are yet sensible that this further Objection may be raised Viz. Objection That neither the words of the Prophet nor of the Apostle cited by us make mention of Government over Jew or Gentile but doth shew as from the scope of the Scripture appears that the Apostle so writ to convince the Jews of the difference between the Righteousness of the Law and that of Faith and to shew unto Believers whether Jews or Gentiles that though some might appear in a Voluntary Humility Worship Angels intrude into those things they had not seen and be vainly puffed up in their fleshly minds and not give all Obedience unto the Head Christ through whom alone there is an increase in the increases of God yet they were therein reproveable as not being risen with Christ and further also to shew that those who were dead with Christ from the Rudiments of the world ought not to be subject to nor yet to touch taste or handle such Ordinances as were after the Commandments and Doctrines of Men. To this Objection we answer That though the word Government is not expressly mentioned yet there are words in what is cited out of the Prophet Jeremiah importing the three material Objects of Government viz. A Lawgiver the Place where the Law is to be found written and the People for whom it is given Besides from these words of Paul viz. The same Lord over all a Governour is implied viz. Christ Jesus our Lord and so consequently a Government over that All. And from what hereafter follows it will appear that the End of this Government is to lead into all Truth Moreover it leades us to observe That there are divers true Marks whereby the Opposers of Christ's Government may be distinguisht First They are such as are in a Voluntary Humility Secondly Such as Worship Angels which may reasonably be taken to be a Worshipping of some Messengers whom God hath sent because the signification of the word Angel is a Messenger Thirdly Such as intrude into those things they have not seen Fourthly Such as are puft up in their fleshly minds Fifthly Such as give not all obedience unto the head Christ And lastly Such as are Subject to Ordinances after the Commandments and Doctrines of Men. And to be very plain for the clearing the Truth we must give this our Testimony that we are really perswaded from what our Eyes Ears have been witnesses that many of those amongst the People called Quakers who have Zealously contended for the Observation of Outward Rules and Orders given forth by One Man bear all the aforesaid Marks for whosoever they are that pretend Zeal to promote submit unto and exercise themselves in other mens lines made ready to their hands and that on a pretended religious score when thorow the word of true Faith they see it not their duty or if they shall pretend they do and thereupon strive to enforce others to submit thereto there being no ground from the Scripture of Truth or Light of Christ so to strive it naturaly follows that the aforesaid Marks accompany such and this we confidently aver that thorough the whole Scriptures of Truth there is not one word from whence we may rationally expect and that according to the meaning of the Spirit that Christ hath or will Commissionate any One Man or Men to prescribe Outward Rules and Orders relating to Faith or Discipline in the Church to be binding on the Consciences of the Subjects of his Kingdom whether they should see it to be their duty from the Law written in their hearts or no. Besides if we consider the nature of Christ's Kingdom and Government it will appear to be such unto which outward written Laws visible by our carnal eyes and to be executed by perishing objects according to an outward Magistratical or Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction are wholly unsutable becaus Christs Kingdom is not of this world but is an Everlasting Kingdom and therefore 't is said That of the encrease of his Government there shall be no end and though John in the Revelations Chap. 11. V. 15. gives this Testimony That there were great voices in heaven saying the Kingdoms of this World are become the Kingdomes of our Lord and of his Christ And he shall Reign forever and ever Isa 61.11 yet there is nothing said to signify that the manner of his Reign was or should be otherwise then as before is described Moreover if any Man or Men have or may pretend him or themselves to be such on Earth on whom the weight of Christs Government which is Spiritual is laid it is not like to have any Evidence in our Consciences First Not only because we find no such Prophecy or Promise in the Scriptures of Truth but also for that we rather find the contrary for
in Isa 9.6 't is thus said And the Government shall be upon his shoulders and his Name shall be called wonderful Councellor c. Secondly Because 't is wholly repugnant to the Light of Christ in our Consciences that the weight of a Government that is Spiritual and Everlasting the Laws whereof are written in the Heart and wherein nothing but true Judgment and Justice hath been is and shall be executed for evermore should rest upon any Man or Men as a Governour or Governours over others since there is no Man nor Men but are subject through Temptation to Err if they watch not and therefore we may well say much less on any such one man though termed by some the great Apostle of Christ whose Actions towards his Brethren have been found injurious to them undeservedly and reproachful to the Truth nor yet upon any such Assemblies as the usual General Meeting so termed though improperly of the People called Quakers is because the Meeters have usually consisted of Uncertain Numbers of Uncertain Qualifyed Persons that take upon them so to assemble whilest others beholding the Ill Consequences of their Meeting conscientiously forbear to joyn with them Thirdly Because it is evident that the Disciples of Christ had their Eye so much on his outward and bodily appearance as that Christ their Lord and Master saw it meet to tell them in these words Joh. 16.7 It is expedient for you that I go away and when he so said he did not then tell them nor yet at any time before or after I will commissionate some Man or Assembly of Men in my Stead that so you may have your Eye unto and expect Written Orders from him or them to walk by and to lead you into all Truth but John gives them a Reason for his so saying in these words Joh. 16.7 For if I go not away the Comforter will not come but if I depart I will send him unto you meaning the Spirit of Truth which as he promised should abide with them for ever and should be in them which undoubtedly was in order to the Exaltation of his Government in the Heart and that they might have their whole Dependency on the Spirit of Truth which as before is signifyed Christ promised should abide with them forever And so this may truly be termed that Everlasting Unerring Unchangable Governour unto which the Subjects of Christ's Kingdom owe Obedience And why so but because under it the Promise of Christ was That they should be guided into all Truth according as is plainly signifyed from these following words spoken by Christ himself Joh. 16.13 I have yet many things to say unto you but you cannot bear them now Howbeit when the Spirit of Truth is come he will guide you into all Truth for he shall not speak of himself But whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak Here is no room left for the Church of Christ to contend about Forms of Government or who shall be Governours under Christ's Government for if the Spirit that is in us and that is to remain with us forever shall guide us into all Truth then our Dependency ought to be thereon that so thereby we may be led into all Truth or else we cannot manifest our selves to be obedient Subjects unto Christ under his Government that he is exalting in the Hearts of the Sons and Daughters of Men. The consideration of these things leads us to give this Testimony That there is no ground either from the Scriptures of Truth without us or Light of Christ within us to believe that any Christian Professour can in Truth affirm That there are Outward Prescriptions and Orders given forth by the Spirit of God through any one or more Mortal Men in this our Day which others ought to obey and follow of which more anon in answer to R. B's Book of Government whether they see it their Duty or no and if they do not may therefore come under the Curse and partake of the same Judgments from God which happened to Corah Dathan and Abiram for their Rebellion against Moses and though the sin of Corah c. hath frequently in our Publick Meetings for Worship been spoken of and intended as we have taken it to be as a proper Citation to describe the state of such as on a Conscientious score cannot submit unto the outward Orders of one man yet we testify that such sort of insinuating and thretning language seems much more agreeable to the first Covenant then the second under which we are and when countenanced or spoken by any expecting such a submission it then seems to savour of a spirit that speaketh of himself and not what he hath heard from the great Lord and Master Jesus Christ and so consequently from another spirit than that which Christ promised he would send for Christ's own words signify He shall not speak of himself Moreover t is evident that Corah and his Company rebelled against Moses who was King in Jesuran and a Leader of Israel and thorough whom the Lord gave forth his Law to the People but we know that none can according to truth at this Day pretend that any other Governour is raised up amongst the Children of Light to be like unto Moses whom we ought to hear in all things save Christ Jesus who by his Spirit manifested in every Subject of his Kingdom is thereby become their Lawgiver and whilest they are obedient thereunto they may in truth be reckoned to be of the number of those that are in Christ Jesus because they may then truly be termed such as walk not after the flesh but the spirit and to such according to the Apostles Doctrine there is no Condemnation Objection This Discourse touching Government may occasion some to raise this Objection We understand that many called Quakers do hold Monthly and Quarterly-Meetings of Men and also of Women distinct from Men about their Church Affairs and that these Meetings are reputed to be Established on certain dayes that ought not to be altered by one man amongst them that hath pretended he was moved of God so to do and that the same person hath by his Paper spread abroad in divers parts of the Nation signified that none but loose spirits and such as tend to looseness pretend to set up a better way or to alter them to another day for fear of Corruption in Observing a Day and that it is but from a corrupt spirit of darkness which God will blast and that some call these Meetings the Government of Christ set up amongst them and establish't by the power of God to take care of the Churches affairs and that true Judgment and Justice which are the fruits of Christ's Government may be executed To this we answer we confesse there have been and yet may be such Meetings but if any think they have been or are establish't by any one man or that therein the Government of Christ is set up any otherwise than as any
Basis and Foundation To which I thus say This kind of Language with respect to divers Practices in Discipline amongst the People called Quakers or any outward Form and Order which is or hath been by any called the Order of the Gospel I do not understand to be rightly applicable to those amongst the said People who have retained their first Love to and Savour of the Truth and right Understanding of the Principle thereof not that I would hereby be understood that it s not necessary to be in the Exercise of Outward Order with respect to that Gospel-discipline which becomes the Church of Christ but that which I understand not to be rightly applicable unto them is manifested in what follows Though the principle of Truth in these latter dayes hath and may further lead into the Practice of Outward Order in Discipline with relation to the Church of Christ yet I affirm that part of that Outward Order in Discipline wherein divers of the People of the Lord called Quakers have been acted is such as that there is not the least Footsteps thereof to be found in the Scriptures as exhorted to or as practised by the Apostles I could give many Instances hereof but one shall suffice viz. The Form of Proceedings in Marriages wherein the Scriptures are wholly silent as to the Primitive Christians and tho the Papists pretend to Tradition yet the People of the Lord called Quakers do not Besides 't is evident by the Scriptures of Truth that the Apostles were found in the Practice of that which the People called Quakers do not only out of Conscience to God forbear but have had many Contests with others touching the same as esteeming it though permitted for a season by reason of the Weakness of the People amongst the number of those Outward Ordinances out of which the Lord hath at this day gathered his People witness Water-Baptism The word Order with respect to Outward Government Establish't by the Church of Christ over it self I remember not in the Scriptures of Truth yet much of late is spoken of the Order of the Gospel and of establishing the same and that with respect to Outward Prescriptions and Orders practised or endeavoured to be introduced amongst the People of the Lord called Quakers and in perticular R. B. Page 40. speaks of the Truth and Faith we have been and are in the Lords Hands building up To which I say The Consideration that Christ is the Truth and the great Power of God and that an Establishing in the Faith cannot Properly be termed A building up of Faith gives me occasion to treat a little touching the words establish and build up We know from the testimony of truth in our selves as well as from the Scriptures of Truth without us that we may be Instruments in the hands of the Lord to build up one another in the most Holy Faith in Christ the Truth the Power of God but 't is neither agreeable to the Testimony of Truth in us nor yet the Scriptures of Truth without us for any to account themselves of Ability to establish God's Power for its that by which the World was made Now the Order of the Gospel is the Power of God and nothing else according to the declared sence of our ancient Friends can properly be called the Order of the Gospel but the Power of God for though some outward Form or appearance may be according to the Order of the Gospel yet it can no more properly be called the very Order of the Gospel than the Fruit of a Tree can be called the Tree it self and therefore those who pretend to establish the Order of the Gospel may as well pretend to establish the Power of God it self 'T is true this Power is of Ability to establish Man in the Faith of God's Elect but Man is not of Ability to establish it those who understand the Nature and Tenours of the two Covenants may easily discern the Truth hereof Under the First Covenant which was outward the mind of God was manifested to the People from the Priests Lips which were to preserve Knowledge and this Covenant did consist in divers Outward Ordinances c. establisht and impos'd upon the People until the Time of Reformation Under the Second Covenant being the New Covenant or Gospel dispensation the Mind and Will of God is manifested in his People through the Revelation of his Spirit according to that of Paul Rom. 1.19 That which may be known of God is manifested in them Christ also said John 14.26 The Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name he shall teach you all things The Law under this covenant is written in the heart Heb. 8.10 11. I will write my Law in their Hearts they shall not teach every man his neighbour and every man his brother saying Know the Lord for all shall Know me c. Here 's not the least ground of encouragement for any man under the New Covenant which was not to be like unto the Old to pretend that Gods Spirit doth or will lead any to establish Outward Orders relating to matters of Conscience as the Order of the Gospel for if that which is to be known of God is manifested in us then though it may be needfull to stir up according as the Lord shall move in his servants the pure Mind in us that so we may be in the Exercise of what God requires through the maifestation of himself in us there is no need to establish any thing without us to shew it If the Spirit of Truth is to lead into all truth those who would be leading us in another way will prove little better then Thieves and Robbers which Climb up another way to enter in than by the door If the Law be written in the heart and that no Obedience finds Acceptance with the Lord but Obedience to his Law from an inward Impulse and Drawing of his Spirit thereunto in our selves there 's no need of establishing Outward Indispensible Rules which may relate to the Conscience to walk by for were it possible so to do and any should yield Obedience on no better ground then because'tis so establish't by such a Man or Assembly of Men this sort of Obedience would find no more acceptance with the Lord than the offering of Swines flesh or the Halt and Blind for a Sacrifice under the First Covenant did For though many may be so Weak as not to know the difference between the two Covenants in some respects yet there are Few of the Lord's People called Quakers but have this undoubted Truth sealed in their hearts That none of their Outward Practices under the Exercise of Christ's Government find's acceptance with the Lord but as they have an Evidence in their Consciences that therein they Answer the measure of Truth in themselves Paul writing to the Colossians thus saith As ye have received Christ Jesus the Lord so walk in him Rooted and built up
in him stablished in the Faith Col. 2.6 7. And then the very next verse saith Beware lest any man spoyl you through the Traditions of men according to the Rudimnets of the World and not after Christ If the following outward Decrees Precepts Sentences Decisive Judgment or Traditions of any sort of the Church had been in Pauls ' Eye a real and certain Indication of being Establish't in the Faith or rooted in Christ or that 't was the Practice of the Church to be Establishing Outward Indispensible Orders relating to the Consciences of Believers I leave it to the Judicious Reader to savour whether Paul would have so immediately and as it were in one breath caution'd them to beware of being spoyled through the Traditions of Men c. without a further Caution to take heed lest they should account the Commands Sentences Decrees or Traditions of the Church such These things considered and compared with the Measure of Light in our selves I am satisfyed 't is not agreeable to Truth for any Man or Assembly of Men to atempt an Outward Indispensible Establishment of Outward Orders Rules and Decrees relating to Matters of Consciences under the New Covenant as the Orders Rules and Decrees of the Church of Christ Moreover if Christ did stand in need of Assistance to Establish his Government how is it possible that Man whose dayes are but as a span long should be capable to Establish that Government of whose increase there shall be no end but so it is that he doth not stand in need thereof For the Son that is given shall Order his Government and Establish it with Judgment and with Justice even from henceforth and forever read Isa 9.6 7. Besides if we do but consider where and after what manner the second appearance of Christ hath been and yet is to be expected and waited for those who know the Truth as preach't received and believed amongst the People of the Lord called Quakers in the Beginning do know That his Second Appearance hath been and yet is to be expected and waited for in the hearts of the Sons and Daughters of Men and the manner of his appearance hath been and is by his Spirit in us this hath often been testifyed and that in opposition to those who have been looking for his Second Coming in some Outward Bodily Appearance to reign as Lord and King I now appeal to Gods Witness in all Consciences Whether the Outward Establishment of Outward Government under the notion of Christ's Government doth not seem to square more with the Principles of such who look for his Second Coming in some Outward Bodily Appearance than with the Principles of those who conclude his Second Coming to be by his Spiritual Appearance in the heart and whether it be not inconsistent with Right Reason and Truth to conclude that Christ Jesus the Lord will Establish his Government otherwise than by his Spirit and in the heart where his Appearance hath been and is to be expected and waited for And since it is undoubtedly so that of the increase of Christ's Government there shall be no End I cannot understand to what End any Man should concern himself to consider how far it may extend yet R.B. hath so done Witness his 37 Page where he thus saith It is next to be considered in what Cases and how far it may extend To which I cannot but thus reply Those who are not Puft up with Spiritual Pride or Zeal without Knowledge may easily discern from such kind of language a Spirit that would Limit the Holy One of Israel by putting Bounds unto that Government of whose increase there shall be no end and though I speak of Man's inability to Establish Christ's Government yet I would not be understood as one accusing the aforesaid Author or any else to assert Man's Ability so to do For I know not any Men that will pretend themselves in that Case other than Instruments in God's Hands But yet this is to be Observed that since there is no Ground to believe that God everwill make use of Man under the New Covenant to Establish outward indespensible Orders Rules or Decrees to be as a measuring-line whereby those who are under Christ's Government shall be known therefore 't is reasonable to conclude That the endeavours of such who may exercise themselves therein may proceed from no better Power than that Ability which is of Man And notwithstanding he hath considered how far it extends yet I find not that he hath made any mention of the Business or at least a part of the business of one considerable Meeting which is a part of that Government or Order which he pretends to discribe and that is a Meeting held every second day of the week wherein writings treating of Divine Matters and which are intended by the authors for publick view are first viewed in Order to an approbation or the contrary * Witness the Paper at the latter end of this third part signed by Charles Marshal and thirty six more at which meeting his Treatise was past which gives occasion to treat a little of that Meeting since those of that Meeting are as well concerned in the said Treatises as he that writ it The Scriptures of Truth as far as I Remember are wholly silent as to any such Service acted in any Meetings amongst the primitive Christians and therefore I do not understand that there can be any real Ground or tolerable pretence that this is a part of the antient Apostolick Order of the Church of Christ We find the Apostle Acts 3. directed to chuse seven men full of the Holy Ghost to take Care that the Widdows should not be neglected in the dayly Ministration If the Holy Ghost in the Apostles days directed to chuse a certain select well qualifyed Number of men for such a Service as doubtless it did it s against right reason to suppose that the Apostles would in their day have left the consideration of such weighty matters as Treatises of things relating to the Kingdom of God and the salvation of mankind to the Approbation of an uncertain unselected Assembly for such I call that Meeting wherein many of the Writings of the People of the Lord called Quakers intended for publick View are approved or disapproved for that no Certain Select Number of Persons are chosen for that service but any Persons who have Publick Testimones for the Truth though but by way of Exhortation and are owned as Friends of Truth and come where that Meeting is appointed are the Persons by whom such Writings whether given forth by a Paul a Father or a Timothy a Son as are for publick service are approved or disapproved I now appeal to the impartial understanding Reader whether according to this form of Government one that is in the place of Paul a Father who according to the aforesaid Author hath right to rule over and command may not have the testimony which he hath through the motion
declare the Intent of his Mind and are not the slip of his Tongue or Pen But how unreasonable it is that Matters of Worldly Property and things relating to Conscience should be decided by such Assemblies without an Election for that Service by the Parties differing I shall leave it to the Judicious Impartial Reader to savour having elsewhere in this following Treatise plainly evidenced that there may be such Assemblies and yet not owned by the Lord for the Church of Christ and so may be remote from giving Righteous Judgment though R. B. saith Gods Spirit will never bewanting in such Assemblies And whereas some may be so charitable as to conclude R. B. intends not by his words that any should assume Authority to decide Differences relating to Outward Things without consent of the Parties concerned to such I say He hath left no room for a reasonable Man so to think because he hath written several Pages to prove his Assertion which in that case is all unnecessary for who can be so Ignorant as not to know that Persons chosen by the differing Parties have of Right Power to decide but if any should I know that R. B. is none of them my Acquaintance with him tells me not only so but also that he is a man of better reason than to have written so many Lines on this Subject without telling the Reader so if that had been his meaning Besides if the Assent of Parties was intended and that the Order of this Government reach'd not to this Case without such assent it naturally follows that the Power and Authority pretended to in this Case is none at all And now that the Reader may not have a misunderstanding of my Sense in relation to Differences touching Outward Things I have this Testimony on the behalf of Truth to give on this Occasion viz. That as on the one hand I do conclude 't is contrary to the Truth for any number of Men under the Notion of the Church of Christ to assume a Jurisdiction over their Brethrens Properties and Worldly Concerns when not chosen by consent of such over whose outward Concerns they assume Power to Judge so on the other hand if Differences arise between Brother and Brother I do conclude that going to Law before Unbelievers is an Indication that one or both are departed from the Truth and that it is the Duty of Such who are at Variance to request such Brethren as are Skil'd in the Matters touching which they differ to hear and determine the Cause and then of a willing and ready Mind and not as by Constraint to submit unto such Determination and that it ought to be as an Incombent Duty on the Members of Christs Church to be watching over one another so as that by wholsom Counsel Admonition and Sound Doctrine all Variance Strife Emulation Rents and Divisions both in relation to Temporal as well as Spiritual Matters may as much as in them lies be kept out from amongst the Members of Christs Body R. B. asserts Page the 11. That the Ground of Schismes Divisions or Rents in the Body is when any Member assumes another Places than is allotted it or being gone from the Life le ts in the Eye that watches for Evil. This Position is Truth and rightly Stated but yet notwithstanding I cannot but Testify that if any Member of Christs Body doth recommend that Administration or Operation wherein by Gods Spirit he is Exercised unto his Brethren and shall Judge all such Dark Spirits and out of the Unity of the Body who on such a Recommendation become not Exercised as he is or doth not immediately close with his Experience and Operation though otherwise Faithful to the Measure of Grace received such an one so Judging may justly be Judged of the Lord as a Person not only assuming another Place in the Body than is allotted him but also as endeavouring to draw others into the like Snare for that it is as probable that a true Member of Christs Body may be as remote from having Experience of his Brothers Operation as the Ear of the natural Body may be from discerning what the natural Eye doth see and yet the Ear according to that of Paul 1 Cor. 12.16 may as truly be accounted a Member of the Body as the Eye 'T was an Exhortation in the Beginning of the Day which in these latter Years hath Dawned amongst us Though thou grow but slow yet grow sure This sure growing was Obedience after Convincement or Obedience to the Measure of Grace received All Performances before with respect to Worship or Services for God were accounted but Will-worships or Will-services and therefore many whose Faces were Sion-ward did rightly testify on this wise I must stay until I be Convinced and since I see not this to be wrong I dare not be in the Practice of another thing contrary thereto lest I become a Will-worshipper And yet this kind of Language is according to my Understanding too reflectingly spoken of by the afore-said Author witness his 13th Page This puts me in mind to signify what the Apostle Paul said 1 Cor. 12.3 No man can say Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Ghost 'T is the Fame of Truth that Jesus as in himself is Lord and so we know a wicked man not acted by the Spirit may say these words Jesus is the Lord Yet none can in Truth say Jesus is Lord in them but by the Holy Ghost from whence I observe That no Testimony though ever so true in it self can become the Testimony of Truth in any further than through certain Conviction it s known to be so even as Jesus cannot in Truth be called Lord by us until by his Spirit we are convinced and experimentally know that he is Lord in us And therefore I cannot but say 'T is savoury Language to say I MVST STAY VNTIL CONVINCED though R. B. as his lines to me import accounts such Language to be a Reasoning Truth from ones self through the deceitfulness of the Serpent querying How did they meaning the primitive Labourers amongst the People of the Lord called Quakers knock down this manner of Reasoning But doubtless herein he hath abused both himself and the Truth not so much for that he knowes no other than by report whereof he treats as to this matter if his meaning be That the primitive Labourers in the Gospel at the beginning of that Day which in these latter Ages hath dawn'd amongst us did condemn such kind of Language but for that many of those who yet remain witnesses of the first gathering remember no such thing Those who at this day say We were taught to follow the Light in our Consciences and not the Orders of Men and that we will not have Man to rule over us utter Language becoming Christians notwithstanding R. B's Reflection on such kind of Language as this also in his seventeenth Page For Christ in this day as well as in that day wherein Truth was
neglect of their own Gifts And so such may become but little honour to the Brother who Ministred in his own Gift as the Oracle of God and not only so but little credit to the Truth if such by medling in things without their Line bring forth Confusion and Disorder For what can be the Off-spring of such who labour and travel in the things they understand not but the Brats of Babylon Besides those who are of such forwardly spirits as to pin their Faiths on other Mens Sleeves and say Amen to what other Men say before they have an Understanding opened to see the same may oft times approve notwithstanding this usual saying Can the Brethren Err of such things which are not ministred as the Oracles of God though pretended so to be And if any whose Understandings God hath opened to discern this kind of weakness in such who boasting in other Mens Lines of things made ready to their Hands in very deed take too much upon them do out of true Love endeavour to convince them that so they might wait on their own Gifts There are some ready to bring forth what befel Corah Dathan and Abiram because they said to Moses and Aaron Ye take too much upon you and what befel Miriam because she said Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses hath he not spoken also by us and make such a use of these Scriptures as that they give occasion of Jealousy to some to conclude That there are some do believe that God hath raised up some Outward Person to be amongst the Children of Light at this Day like unto Moses and as he was in that Day amongst the Children of Israel Amongst the Children of Light in these our latter Dayes I never understood of any deserving an higher Title than an Elder or Ministring Friend But if such mean That God hath raised up any Outward Man or Men from whose Lips Gods People must at this day receive the Law of Christ and Record it in Books for Generations to come as his Law I know there are many of the Children of Light who retain their First Love and Integrity for the Truth to this day and Honour enough in their hearts for every Brother both Younger and Elder that keep faithful in their Place and in very deed take not too much upon them can receive no such Testimony not only because they know it to be against the Nature of the Second Covenant to expect such an appearance but also because they believe that Christ is that Prophet whom the Lord promised He would raise up like unto Moses whom we are to hear in all things and that his appearance is and will be in the heart where his Voice as a Law-giver is to be heard and accordingly to be obeyed Thirdly Though I pretend not to know the Occasions whereon the Apostles writ further than the Scripture manifests yet I do know how Truth was Preacht in the begining amongst those who through the Power thereof being gathered were called Quakers and that many would have undoubtedly fallen both on the right hand and on the left should the antient Labourers after they had been Instruments in the Lords hands to gather Thousands unto the Truth have thus said We are your Fathers who in Christ Jesus have begotten you through the Gospel and we have on that foot a certain Authority in the Power over you and to command such things as are needful for Order and Vnities sake and that there lyes an Obligation on you to Reverence Honour and Obey us And though you are our Witnesses that we have often Declared that our Commission from God was to turn People from Darkness to Light and from the Power of Satan to God that so they might all come to be Ordered and Governed by the Appearance of that Power in themselves Yet we did not mean but that when we had gathered any unto the Truth we should be those who ought to have the Rule over them and that such should observe our Traditions or follow us without giving them a Reason why And though they might in truth be submitting themselves one unto another in the Lord according to the Apostles Counsel yet all of them must submit to us and Reverence Honour and Obey us and not think it any Contradiction to the being led by the Measure of Gods Grace in themselves Should our antient Brethren Labourers in the Gospel have thus said I do not see that therein they would render themselves of another mind than R.B. is of if his Lines may be lookt upon as the product of his Mind but should they have so done doubtless as I have said before many would have fallen and Jealousies have enter'd the breasts of Thousands That though these our travelling Brethren exalted the Spirit of God in man as the only sufficient Rule for man and declared that the Scriptures were not a sufficient Rule to man yet in stead of leaving us to that Rule which they have declared to be sufficient they strain that which they have declared not sufficient to make it as much as in them lyes a Rule for them to Rule over their Brethren R. B. in his first Section which treats of the Ground and Cause of the Controversy speakes Page 15. of a sort of Persons that would needs be Innovators and given to change and introducting New Doctrines and Practices not only differing but contrary to what was delivered in the Beginning and Page 17. speaks of such who with swelling words talkt of and Preach'd up a higher Dispensation To which I say This Language leaves the Reader still Ignorant of what sort of Persons they are he hints at for that he tells not his Reader what was delivered in the Beginning and what is introduced contrary thereunto neither do I know how he well could unless by report from others since his Age would not admit him as a sufficient and sensible Witness thereof I shall therefore take the pains to do it for him The Doctrines delivered in the Beginning were chiefly these and such like viz. That a Measure of Christ's Light and Grace of God was given to every Man to profit withal that this Grace was sufficient that that which may be known of God was manifested in us that the Scriptures were not the Rule but the Spirit that that which was not of Faith was Sin that we should draw Water out of our own Wells let it be your own and not anothers that we should not boast in other Mens Lines of things made ready to our hands but that since every one must give account for himself we should see for our selves believe for our selves and savour for our selves and not pin our Faiths on the Sleeves of any lest we should become Will-worshippers But now there are a sort of Innovators given to change who introduce such Sayings and Doctrines as these are First That this Light will undo all or at least a Pretence to the Light which I
and by his Spirit we came to be baptized into one Body and so are center'd into the heavenly Fellowship of Christ's Body And as for thy saying A Belief in Certain Principles Doctrines and Practices necessarily depending thereon are the Termes and very Bond by which we became center'd into one Body and the Cause that gathered us this is not only wrong in it self though as is said before they may be the Fruit of the Bond but exactly like the False Churches in the World Papists and Protestants of all sorts in the Apostacy have Outward Marks and Tokens as being either of such an Order or having such a Commission or as believing in such Principles and submitting to such Practices and the like by which the Members of their Churches are described and therefore is it that amongst those there are outward Societies of Men certainly known as aforesaid according to the various Manners and Wayes which their Principles admit and allow of which are termed the Church of Christ and these have many Outward Orders Rules Prescriptions Ordinances Decrees or Laws for the Establishment and Preservation of their outward Society which being agreeable to the nature of their Constitutions may become fit means for the Conservation thereof but inasmuch as the Belief of certain Principles Doctrines and Practices necessarily depending thereon are not the very Terms or Bond to unite any in outward Assemblies whereby to assume unto themselves the Title of the Church of Christ for that if held in a pure Mind which is in the best Sense they are but the Fruit of that Bond and when held in an Impure Mind are no Indication that such are Members of Christs Church I cannot but say it is against right Reason for any to Prescribe and Establish Outward Indispensable Rules and Orders relating to the Conscience and in order to be a Bond thereon for the Conservation of Christs Body since 't is evident that the most certain and infallible Marks of Membership in the said Body are Invisible to the Outward Man though felt and known to the Inward Man of the Heart for though Actions outwardly just are many times the Fruit of the Spirit yet are not always certain Tokens that those through whom they appear are Members of Christs Body but those who are Circumcised in Heart and have the Answer of a Good Conscience towards God are the very Members of Christs Church and therefore the most proper Means for the preservation of such Members in the Unity of the Spirit and as Members of one Body is that whereby they came to be Circumcised in Heart and gathered unto the Truth which is no other but the Spirit and Arm of Gods Power which surrounds all those that wait upon him and have a daily Dependence upon the Lord with the Mind inwardly staid in the Measure of that Grace which the Apostle saith is sufficient for them and thus the Baptism of the Spirit will be witnessed continually in which every Member of Christs Body comes to be centered into an Heavenly Fellowship and Communion each with other in the Life of Righteousness The next thing I shall examine is whether R. B's Affirmative Answer to this Question viz. Whether the Church of Christ hath Power in any Cases that are Matters of Conscience to give postive Sentence and Decision which may be Obligatory upon Believers be agreeable to Truth and Sound Doctrine My Observation hereon is this That he hath not here adjoyned Inward Conviction whereby they might find Clearness in themselves to the Sentence of the Church as necessary to the Obligation he Intends and inasmuch as nothing without an Inward Clearness and Conviction can become a real and acceptable Bond upon a Believer to be at Unity with his Brethren in the Belief and Practice of Things relating to Conscience and that those who are found in the Practice of other Mens Lines before they have Faith therein may oft times run into the Sin of Hypocrisy even as others may into the Sin of Negligence who through Unwatchfulness to their own Measures want Clearness of Sight and Understanding to practise and joyn with those things which others waiting in their Own Measures may by the Spirit be led into Therefore I cannot but say that the Scope and Bent of his Spirit so far as from his words I can Savour in relation to this Matter are not agreeable to the Truth and Sound Doctrine And since it is so as R. B. observes Page 35. That God hath not given us our Reasons to no purpose I shall according to the Line of right Reason a little further Observe First I find R. B. treating in his 7th Section concerning the Power of Decision thus to say Page 66. The only proper Judge of Controversy in the Church is the Spirit of God and the Power of Deciding solely lies in it as having the only infallible Judgment belonging to it which Infallibility is not necessarily annexed to any Persons Person or Places whatsoever by Vertue of any Office Place or Station any one may have or have had in the Body of Christ that is to say that any have Ground to reason thus Because I am or have been such an Eminent Member therefore my Judgment is Infallible or because we are the greatest Number or that we live in such a noted or famous Place or the like though some of these Reasons may and ought to have their true weight in Case of Contradictory Assertions Thus the aforesaid Author From all which two things are Observable First That the afore-said Author accounts the Spirit the only Judge Secondly That though he affirms that the Church of Christ hath Power in Cases that are Matters of Conscience to give positive Sentences and Decision which may be Obligatory upon Believers yet through his whole Treatise I find not that he hath described who are the Persons that are the Church and where those Persons do usually Assemble as the Church of Christ and therefore though my very soul abhors lightly to esteem of the Elect of God or to undervalue the Power the Church of God either stands in or are indued with yet since I do know how dangerous a thing it is for any to burthen the Consciences of Gods People though under ever so specious Pretences and that when we speak of the Church of Christ we mean Visible Persons distinguisht as outward Persons by Names that may be known to the Outward Man though as Members of Christ's Body distinguisht not by such Names but by that Name which is written in Heaven and known to the Inward Man I cannot but query To what end doth the aforesaid Author assign the Decision of Cases of Conscience which are Matters certainly to be known so as to be binding on Believers to Judges so describ'd as that a greater Controversy may immediately arise upon the asking of this question Who or where those men are This instead of removing one Difference or clearing one Doubt may beget more
ought to Believe and though there have been so many Diversities of Creeds in the World according to the various Apprehensions of divers Assemblies assuming to themselves the Title of the Church of Christ yet to this day I find not amongst the People of the Lord called Quakers that any certain number of Articles of Faith are given forth from any General Assembly or Particular Congregation under the Notion of the Church of Christ as their Creed and as a Measuring-Line by which those who are either in or departed from the Faith may be known and the reason hereof is evident because 't is against the Fundamental Principle viz. the Light to exalt any other Measuring-Line than that by which we were Baptized into the one Body of Christ viz. the Spirit Having thus promised as a more particular Answer to the Question I thus say I confess the true Church is in the true Faith and every Member thereof is in some measure at least of the same Faith that all the Elect of God are of so that it may in Truth be said every Member of the Church doth in some measure Believe as the rest of the Members do I say in some Measure because as there were diversities of Gifts and Operations so also were there Differences in Measures of Faith and therefore doth the Apostle wisely say to this purpose Let him that Prophesieth Prophesy according to the Proportion of Faith Rom. 12.6 But should any arise to say 't is Folly and Hypocrisy to Professones self a Member of the true Church yet not Believe thus as the true Church Believes without any further Explanation of the words or of what is intended thereby such may subject themselves to censure for by the words True Church in this Sentence and yet not Believe thus as the true Church Believes will be understood the rest of the Members from whom one or more differs in Faith Now there may happen to be a weak Brother whose Faith in some particular Matters may be otherwise than the rest of his Brethren's is this Case happened amongst the Romans to whom Paul thus writ Rom. 14.3 4 22 23. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not and let not him that eateth not Judge him that eateth for God hath received him Who art thou that condemnest another Mans Servant to his own Master he standeth or falleth Hast thou Faith have it to thy self He that doubteth is condemned if he eat because he eateth not of Faith and whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin Here a Diversity of Faith is Evident and that between Brethren and Members of the Church and yet neither appear to be Fools or Hypocrites he that did eat was not to be Judged because he was received of God and he that did not eat was so far from being Judged that the Apostle condemnes the very Eating whilest there was a Doubt though the Abstinence was the Fruit of Weakness These things considered I appeal to Gods Witness in all Consciences whether Truth can be served at this Day by asserting under the name of one called a Quaker such Principles as give occasion of Jealousie that this Doctrine is promoting amongst us We must Believe thus as the Church Believes without removing those Objections which for want of an Explanation may necessarily follow 'T is a true saying That the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against the Church that 's built upon the Rock Christ and that the Elect cannot be deceived but notwithstanding 't is thus said yet we know that particular Members of the Church of Christ have erred Objection Yet some may be ready to object and say * Note This Objection is so lay'd to â—n in the same Book wherein the last answered Query is written Though some particular Members may be liable to err 't is neither reasonable nor just to conclude the whole Body or Church of Christ is liable to err To this I say God forbid that the whole Church of Christ should err yet I say neither the Light within us nor the Scriptures of Truth without us do evidence that any Member one more than another is by any peculiar Election exempted from being liable to err no more than Particular Persons were from all Eternity Elected and others Reprobated and so it appears to me that the Promise was not with respect that some should continue still Faithful and not liable to err though others being liable thereto should err but with respect to every Member of the Church whilest establish'd on the Rock Christ so that not only a part of the Church but every Member thereof whilst built on the Rock Christ shall be so preserved as that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against any one of them and this seems to me to be evident from the very Connection of the words of the Scripture Mat. 16.18 And upon this Rock I will Build my Church and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it that is against the Church built and whilest remaining on the Rock Christ But if any Assembly through Unwatchfulness and Disobedience depart from the Rock Christ whereon they were built then in that State they cannot properly be called the Church built and remaining on the Rock Christ and so having been liable to be overcome the Gates of Hell do prevail and therefore though 't is impossible that any one Member of Christ's Church whilest abiding in the Seed in which the Election stands and to which the Promise is can be deceived yet notwithstanding I affirm that every Member of Christ's Body and if every Member than the whole Church is liable to err if they wait not in and keep not unto that in which their Preservation stands Christ said Watch and Pray that ye enter not into Temptation this was spoken not with respect to some particular Members in the Church of Christ that were lyable to err and as if there were others that were not And therefore its reasonable to conclude that all may thorough Temptation be in danger to err if they watch not but yet my Faith is that a remnant will be preserved so watchful as that being built on the Rock Christ the Gates of Hell shall never prevail against them These things being duely weighed and considering what great Abuse hath been made of Scriptures that speak to this purpose That the Gates of Hell shall not prevaile against the Church of Christ and that what they bind or loose on Earth shall be bound or loos'd in Heaven and that also to maintain an Antichristian Yoak of Bondage under the pretence of Christ's Church saying That it cannot err it appears not much more like one call'd a Quaker if we consult the Writings of some of those antient and Honourable Labourers who were Instruments in the hands of the Lord to turn Thousands unto the Light within us as the unerring Guide to treat on such Scriptures if applyed to outward and settled Assemblies as such as are not
so also in this is mistaken if he meanes that Circumstances of Times and places are the Ground of Christian forbearance which is manifest from what the Apostle saith Rom. 14.3 4. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not and let not him that eateth not Jadge him that eateth Who art thou that Judgest another man's Servant To his own Master he standeth or falleth which evidently shews that in as much as every one must answer for himself 't is fit every one should believe for himself and so practise without being imposed upon by others And this is the Ground of all Christian Forbearance and not Circumstances of Times and Places And though Page 65. R. B. saith That is accounted a doctrine of Devils which in another respect was Christian forbearance which I take him to assert from his observation on 1 Cor. 8. throughout and 1 Tim. 4.1 2 3. The latter Scripture tells us That commanding to abstain from Meats is a Doctrine of Devils that to the Corinths saith If Meats make my Brother to offend I will eat no flesh while the World standeth This doth not in any wise shew that a Command to abstain from Meats was at any time or in any respect Justifiable for if he would have this Assertion pass for Truth he ought to have proved not only that a Command to abstain from flesh was a Doctrine of Devils which that to Tymothy doth but also that such a Command was once Christian Forbearance but nothing of this latter appears nor yet can be proved from the Scriptures of Truth And as to the case of Circumcision R. B. saith 'T was permitted to the Jewes for a time To this I say we find that many of the believing Jewes were not come from under it and that those Jewes who saw beyond it did not condemn such their Brethren but we do not find that the Apostles as persons that had power to permit or not permit such a practice in the Church did approve of it in any of the Jewes or condemn the same in such as practised it until by Faith they saw beyond it for as on the one hand 't was not in their Commission to preach up Circumcision so on the other 't was not in their Power to be a Bond on any to forbear who through Faith were not first lead therefrom For though the Apostle saith Gal. 5.2 I Paul say unto you if ye be Circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing and Gal. 4.9 10 11. But now after ye have known God or rather are known of God how turn ye again to the Weak and Beggerly Eliments Ye observed Daies and Months c. I am afraid of you Yet this did not at that time condemn that Christian Liberty and Forbearance which the Apostle before approved in and with respect unto such as made Couscience of Circumcision and the Observing Daies for it plainly appears he spoke to a People who were redeemed out of those Beggerly Eliments and were come past those Rudiments which is evident by these his words how turn ye again And so he might well exhort such neither to Circumcise nor yet be in the Observation of Daies for that God doth not usually lead into those things which he hath led out of and this might well consist with the Truth even at such a time and season when others thorough a Conscientious Scruple might in a plea for both with respect to themselves be uncondemned These things considered and that also we find the Apostle exhorting the Churches not to be Judging one another with respect to things relating to Conscience there is great need for every one to watch against a Censorious Judging Spirit lest whilest any are Judging their Brethren they themselves become Castawayes Having in some Measure cleared my Conscience I have this further to add That 't is a blessed thing for Brethren to dwell together in Love and Unity yet this Love and Unity ought to consist in the Truth else the blessing is not I doubt not but there are many who are ready to conclude That an Universal Unity ought to be establish't in the Churches by the Assistance of outward Instruments that as we are Members of one Body so we may not only be one in Faith one in Doctrine but also one in Practice with relation to Discipline Order and Outward Formes of Government My soul should rejoyce to see that Day wherein we might all be so led by the appearance of Christ's Spirit in us under his Government which ought to be exalted over all as that this Oneness might thereby be witnessed amongst all the Families of Gods People at this Day But since it is so with the Church of God at this day as it was with the Church in the Primitive Dayes viz. that there are diversityes of Administrations and diversityes of Gifts Operations in the Body and yet thorough the same Spirit it behoves every one diligently to watch that we Judge not one another by reason of these differing exercises as if these things consisted not with the Unity of the Body And since also it is so that amongst the primitive Believers there were such as practiced Circumcision some made Conscience of keeping a Day and some that Absteyn'd from eating Flesh and others that did not and yet a Christian-Liberty and Forbearance was so exercised as that they were not to be Judging one another about these things and that we find not that these differing exercises in a Christian-Liberty did subject any of those Believers exercised therein to the Censure of being out of the Unity of the Body I therefere do reasonably conclude that the infallible Mark whereby any Member of the Body is known to be in true Unity with the Body doth not consist in Profession and Belief of certain Principles and Doctrines and Practices depending thereon nor yet in Obedience to the Measures of others but in the Circumcision of the heart and an Answer of a good Conscience towards God and that every Member keeps his own order Office and Place in the Body thorough his Obedience to the Measure and Gift of Grace in himself which he hath received from God to Profit withal The most infallible mark and token then of a Member in the true Unity with the Body of Christ is an inward invisible mark that cannot be stampt on any but by the impression of Gods Power on the heart and therefore is it that the outward endeavours of all such Christian Professors as have been and are in the Apostacy instead of attaining to an Heavenly Union in the Spirit have at most but arrived to an Outward Unity consisting in their Outward Conformities and Uniformities according to the Commands Traditions Decrees or Examples of Men. When in Ages and Generations past the Apostacy first entred as a Flood I am perswaded that all who have known the Truth and have had the Consideration and true Sense thereof upon their Spirits do conclude that the Cause thereof
Instrumental to gather though in R. B's Sense as is before manifested such are the fittest to rule over those whom they have begotten to the Truth but also over the Labours of others and then stile themselves the Church of Christ though not guided by the unerring Spirit so to do and then also pretend that they have Power in Cases that are matters of Conscience to give positive Sentences oblieging Believers to Obey Receive and Own the same and that 't is Disobedience to God not to submit to the Positive Sentences and Decisive Judgments of any Assembly or some or other of them which in any Tolerable Supposition may be termed the Church of Christ though we see it not and so by degrees may endeavour to divest Christ of his Government and Prerogative who alone is Lord over the Conscience and by his Spirit in us is become our only Lawgiver and who alone by the influencing Vertue of his own Spirit is able to bring unto that Love and Unity which through the Life of Righteousness finds exceptance with the Lord of Life William Rogers Having now done with the citation of what was writ in answer to the aforesaid Book of Government and considering that in the First Section thereof the Author as is already cited and Observed writ of a sort of Persons that would needs be Innovators and given to Change and introducing new Doctrines and Practices not only differing but contrary to what were delivered in the beginning and in Page thirteen seems reflectingly to treat on such kind of language as this I must stay till I be convinc'd as if such language was knocked down in the beginning and as may reasonably be taken from the scope of the said Book to reflect on such among the People called Quaker who are not so Zealously affected with the Outward Formes of Government under the Notion of Church-Government pretended to be establish't amongst them as the Author or Approvers of his Book were we think it necessary to cite a Testimony Publish't in Print by Isaac Penington the younger in the year One Thousand six hundred and sixty Being a part of a Discourse Entituled The Authority and Government which Christ excluded out of his Church c. And as it lyes all together word for word and not taken by parts and pieces here and there Our end in citing this Testimony is that the impartial Reader may consider whether the said Testimony hath any Coherence with that part of the said Book of Government which is Objected against by us or doth contradict any subject matter that we have treated upon The Testimony of the said Isaac Penington the Younger now followeth THe Apostles and Ministers of Christ came from Christ with a Message of Life and Salvation with a Testimony concerning the Good Will of God and his Love to Mankind pointing out the Way from Death to Life from Bondage to Liberty from Wrath and Destruction to Peace and Salvation What they have seen what they have felt what they have tasted what they have handled what they have found redeem and deliver them that they declare abroad to others as they are moved as they are sent as they are guided and assisted Now that which they preach to is Mens Consciences in the Sight of God They open the Truth which they know they give their Testimony in the Moving Leading and Power of the Spirit and they leave it to the same Spirit to demonstrate it to Mens Consciences as it pleaseth They are nothing they can do nothing they cannot convert any Man to God but the Power that speaketh by them the same Power worketh in other Mens Consciences at its Pleasure And here is the beginning of the Government of Christ in the Heart when his Truth carries Conviction with it to the Conscience and the Conscience is drawn to yield it self up to him then he lays his Yoak upon it and takes upon him the guiding of it he cherisheth it he cleanseth it he comforteth it he ordereth it at his Pleasure and he alone preserveth it pure chast gentle Meek and pliable to the Impressions of his Spirit and as the Conscience is kept single and tender to Christ so his Government encreases therein but as it becomes hard or subject to Mens Wills so another Spirit gets Dominion over it Therefore the great work of the Minister of Christ is to keep the Conscience open to Christ and to preserve Men from receiving any Truths of Christ as from them further than the Spirit opens or to imitate any of their Practices further than the Spirit leads guides and perswades them For Persons are exceeding prone to receive things as Truths from those whom they have an high Opinion of and to Imitate their Practices and so hurt their own growth and endanger their Souls For if I receive a Truth before the Lord by his Spirit make it manifest to me I lose my Guide and follow but the Counsel of the Flesh which is exceeding greedy of receiving Truths and running into Religious Practices without the Spirit Therefore the main thing in Religion is to keep the Conscience pure to the Lord to know the Guide to follow the Guide to receive from him that Light whereby I am to walk and not to take things for Truths because others see them to be Truths but wait till the Spirit make them manifest to me nor to run into Worships Duties Performances or Practices because others are led thither but to wait till the Spirit leads me thither He that makes haste to be rich even in Religion running into Knowledge and into Worships and Performances before he feel a true and clear Guidance shall not be Innocent nor the Lord will not hold him guiltless when he comes to visit for Spiritual Adultery and Idolatry The Apostles were exceeding tender in this point for though they certainly and infallibly knew what was to be believed yet they were not Lords over Mens Faith but waited till he who is Lord of the Faith would open the way into Mens Consciences They did not take upon them to be able to turn the Key to let in Truth and Conviction into Mens Spirits as men in these Days have been too apt to undertake but directed them to him who had the Key there to wait for the Conviction and Illumination of their Minds and so to receive in as they found him give forth to them Let every man saith the Apostle be fully perswaded in his own Mind take heed of receiving things too soon take heed of running into Practices too soon doing what ye see others do but wait for your own particular Guidance and a Full Perswasion from God what is his Will concerning you Tho I know this to be a Truth yet do not ye receive it till God make it manifest to you receive Truth from his Hand stay till He gives it You. Indeed the main Matter in Religion is to keep out the wrong part the forward part the bastardly
every Memis to wait in that Measure of the Spirit which he hath received to feel the Goings forth of the Spirit in him that teacheth and governeth and so to subject not to Man but to the Lord to receive from the Lord to Obey the Lord. Not to know any Minister according to the Flesh but to receive and submit to what comes from the Spirit in the Spirit Not to know Paul or Apollo or Cephas but the Spirit ministring in them Paul may Err Apollo may Err Peter may Err and did Err when he Compelled the Gentiles to live as the Jews Gal. 2.14 for which Paul withstood him to the Face Vers 11 and Barnabas also did Err Vers 13. but the Spirit cannot Err and he that keeps to the Measure of the Spirit in himself cannot let in any of their Errors if they should Err but is preserved for the least Measure of the Spirit is true and gives true Judgment but he that receiveth never so great a Measure of the Spirit yet if he keep not Low therein but lifteth up himself because thereof above his Brethren may easily Err himself and draw aside others into his Errour Secondly Care must be had that the Conscience be kept tender that nothing be received but according to the Light in the Conscience the Conscience is the seat of Faith and if it be not kept close to the Light which God Lighteth there Faith is soon made shipwrack of Christianity is begun in the Spirit which keepeth out the Fleshly Part with all its fleshly Wisdom and Reasonings about Spiritual things and as the begining is in the anointing so must the Progress be As the Spirit begins in the Conscience by convincing that by perswading that by setting up his Light there and leading the soul by that Light so that Light must still be eyed and according to its growth and manifestation in the Conscience so must the Soul stand still or go on The great error of the Ages of the Apostacy hath been to set up an Outward Order and Unformity and to make Mens Consciences bend thereto either by Arguments of Wisdom or by Force but the Property of the true Church Government is to leave the Conscience to its full liberty in the Lord to preserve it single and entire for the Lord to exercise and to seek Unity in the Light and in the Spirit walking Sweetly and harmoniously together in the midst of Different Practices yea and he that hath Faith and can see beyond another yet can have it to him-self and not disturb his Brother with it but can descend and walk with him according to his measure And if his Brother have any heavy Burthen upon him he can lend him his Shoulder and bear part of his burthen with him Oh how sweet and lovely is it to see Brethren dwell together in Unity to see the true Image of God raised in Persons and they knowing and Loving one another in that Image and bearing with one another through Love and helping one another under their Temptations and Distresses of Spirit which every one must expect to meet with If thou art a Christian in Deed and in Truth preserve thy Conscience pure and tender towards God do not defile it with such Religious Practices Duties Ordinances c. as thou dost not feel the Spirit leading thee into for all such are Idols and exceedingly polute thee And be tender also of thy Brothers Conscience and be not an Instrument to draw him unto any thing which the Lord leads him not into but rejoyce if thou find him in Simplicity of Heart startling at any thing for if he abide here faithful his Guide will in due season appear to him and clear up his way before him but if he be too hasty he may follow a Wrong Guide and that Guide will never lead him aright towards the Kingdom but entangle him further and further from it Oh how many have run a Whoring from the Lord how many have first lost the Guidance of his Spirit and then drowned their Life in Religions Performances How many have Drunk of the Cup of Fornication from the Life at the Hands of the Fleshly Wisdom How many have filled their Spirit with New-Testament Idols and Images How many have even hardened their Hearts and Consciences by following the Doctrines of Men their imaginary Meanings of Scriptures and the imaginations and Dreams of their own Hearts Is it not time for men at length to turn back towards the Lord to wait for the Visitation and Light of his Spirit from whom they have gone a Whoring and whom in all these things they have grieved And if ever any feel and enjoy the Guidance of God's Spirit their Conscience must be kept tender to it and ready to hear and follow his voice who speaks in Spirit to that which is born of him which infallibly knowes his Voice and being kept clear cannot doubt Concerning it My Sheep hear my voyce saith Christ they know it and the voice of the strange Spirit they know not so as to follow it but turn from it both in themselves and others But that which is not the Sheep but hath only got the Sheeps Cloathing cryes out How shall we know the Voice of the Spirit we may be deceived Nay that which is born of God that which is the Elect of God cannot be deceived Wait therefore for the Birth of the Spirit to which the Spirit is given for a Guide who infallibly guides it out of Deceit All Deceivers are out of this Birth out of this Spirit perhaps in some Birth or other framed from the Letter and living in the Imitation of some Practices and Ordinances from the Letter under which Cover they lie in wait to deceive but Strangers to the Life and Power and to that Wisdom which begets and bears to God Thus the Jews Erred and deceived their Proselites before the coming of Christ Thus the Christians in Name have generally Erred all along the Apostacy and indeed for the Generality have not been true Christians but only a persecuted Remnant amongst them whose Life hath been nourished and preserved not by Doctrines and Observations which they have been taught by the Precepts of Men nor by the Knowledge which they themselves have gathered but by a little Bread dayly handed to them from the Father of Mercies out of the Wilderness that was the thing which nourished their Souls up to God though many of them knew not distinctly what it was that nourished them nor how they came by it Object But is not Vniformity lovely and doth not the Apostle exhort Christians to be of one Mind and were it not a sweet thing if we were all of one Heart and one Way Answer Yea Vniformity is very lovely and to be desired and waited for as the Spirit of the Lord which is one leads and draws into one But for the Fleshly Part the Wise Reasoning Part of Man by fleshly Ways and Means to strive to bring
about a Fleshly Uniformity which insnares and overbears the tender Conscience this is not Lovely nor Spiritual nor Christian And the Apostle who Exhorts Christians to one Mind yet doth not bid them force one another to one mind but walk together sweetly so far as they had attained and wherein they were otherwise minded God in his due time would reveal more to them Phil. 3.15 16. He that hath to him shall be given and the Intent and Work of the Ministry with the several Ministrations of it is to bring into the Unity Ephes 4.13 as Persons are able to follow and not to force all Men into one Practice or Way that 's the way to destroy the Faith and the true Unity and at best can introduce but a Fleshly Appearance of Vnity into such a Form of Worship and Godliness as eats out the Power And for being of one Heart and one Way Blessed be the Lord this is in measure known and witnessed The Way is one Christ the Truth of God and he that is in the Faith and in the Obedience to the Light which shines from his Spirit into the Heart of every Believer hath a tast of the one Heart and of the one Way and knoweth that no Variety of Practices which is of God can make a Breach in the true Vnity This is the one Way for every one to be subject to the Light of Christs Spirit which he hath received from Christ and every one keeping here there is also one Heart kept in the midst of all the Variety and diversity of Practices 'T is needful to be observed that in the City of London a Free Meeting was held between R. Barclay and me in the presence of G. F. and many others wherein we treated on many things contained in R. B's Book of Government which I then did and ever since have accounted Erroneous and on the whole matter one part of the Meeting viz. Charles Marshal with thirty six Persons more advised R. B. as anon by their Paper cited will appear on this wise It is the desire of this Meeting that the said R. B. as he feels in himself the Openings of Life thereunto will in Christian-Condescension to the Capacities of the Weak write an Explanatory Postscript to the said Book for the Sakes of all such as may be supposed to have misapprehended any Expression therein Now forasmuch as the said R. B. hath by way of Epistle to Friends written an Explanatory Rostscript though not Printed the same I thought meet to cite it together with my Observations thereon as followeth Aberdene Prison the 6th of the 1st Month 1679. Dear Friends and Brethren UNto all my Dear Friends and Brethren unto whose hands this Paper may come or who may be any ways more particularly concerned in the Contents hereof is the Salutation of my unfeigned Love in that unchangable Truth whereunto it hath pleased the Lord to call me according to his great Mercy so as to be a Partaker in some Measure of the Peace and Glory which in this Day is revealed wherewith my Heart hath been often filled as I have waited in Faithfulness according to the Dispensation of Light manifested in me and to me And since it pleased God to make me a Living Witness of the Precious Truth and to commit unto me my share of the Ministry thereof my Conscience bears me Witness in the Sight of God that I have Laboured according to my Knowledge to follow Love and Peace with all my Brethren and to do those things which might tend to Advance Strengthen and Confirm Unity and Brotherly-Love as also to avoid what had a Tendency to beget Strife Jealousie or Evil Surmises like as I have studied as well in my publick Testimony as in my Writings to beware of any thing that to my Understanding might minister just Occasion of Stumbling or Offence to the least of my Brethren or the youngest and weakest Babe in the Truth as such as are conversant with me in my own Country as well as those elsewhere where I have travelled can bear Witness Nevertheless as I cannot shun any part of that Labour and Service which my Lord and Master Jesus Christ calls me to so in Obedience to his Requirings near five Years ago I wrote some Sheets concerning the Lawfulness and Necessity of the Government and Order of the Truth having principally and only in my View therein to bear a Faithful Testimony against all false Liberty and Disorder on the one hand and against Imposition and Dominion on the other Intending no less to guard against the one than the other and this I did with particular Respect to some of my near Friends whom I found liable to some Mistakes in that matter And I do sincerely declare before God who knows I speak the Truth and lie not That in the writing thereof I had not the least Purpose nor Intention to meddle with nor concern my self in any of those Debates that have since fallen out amongst Friends in Westmoreland or elsewhere relative thereto much of which as it had not then a being when I wrote that Book so the Substance of that Matter was then unknown to me so I can safely say that I had not so much as one remote Thought or any Remembrance of the lest beginnings of that Affair which I knew during the time of my writing of it so that nothing could be Intended by me therein relative to that matter which as it is sufficient to vindicate my Innocency and Integrity to all as to my Intentions so I cannot forbear also to signifie that as often as I have had Occasion seriously and in the holy Fear and Dread of God to reflect upon those Papers which I have often done because of the Opposition they have met with from some W. R's First Observation [a] [a] This shews that R. B. doth not only Justifie what he hath done but also signifies that he laboured with all the Care and Circumspection he could so to express himself as not to offend in a word and therefore since I know he is well skil'd to word his meaning I might reasonably have expected that he would have cited out of his Book of Government those Passages therein contained which will Evidence that all his Explications by this his Postscript may he found in his Book which was needful to have been done if he so could but I certainly know he cannot that his circumspection might appeare especially since he hath affirmed that the very Explications of his words given in a Letter hereafter cited as his own Explications are to be found in his Book as appears by the said Letter sent abroad by himself and that as may reasonably be taken intended by him to be in his Favour But if the Impartial Vnderstanding Reader wiâ—l be at the pains to compare R. B 's Book of Government with this his Postscript and the Explications given of his words in the aforesaid Letter I may with
retain that Tenderness to God and regard to the hurt of their own Souls as to make Conscience unjustly to accuse the Innocent that since it was asserted by some and entertained as a Truth by divers that that Book was writ upon design and with a particular respect of prejudice to some Persons whom I did not so much as once think on in writing of it with somewhat worse which I am not willing to remember far less to mention whether those that propagated and entertained so false and groundless a Jealousie to the Prejudice of the Innocent have not reason narrowly to examine what Spirit they were influenced by in so doing which certainly could not be of God and whether they ought not thence to take Occasion justly to suspect the Effect and Fruits of the same Spirit in them even when it hath appeared in things for which they may have somewhat more to say surely with men of Inward Tenderness this cannot but have great weight And albeit that my Intentions were so clear in this Matter yet I will not say but the Lord whose Ways are unsearchable and past finding out may have purposed by those Papers seasonably to reprove and smite at a wrong Spirit And therefore all concerned had need in true Tenderness and godly Fear to beware how they shut out and turn by the warnings and Admonitions of the Lord seeking to carp at and find fault with the Innocent Instruments lest they be found Foolishly like those Dogs that run after and seek to bite the Stone because they cannot reach the Hand that threw it I have known this by manifold Experience to have been a Snare to many and therefore without the least Prejudice or Reflection upon any God knows out of true Tenderness and Love do desire it may be seriously weighed in the true Light by all that may feel themselves concerned in this Matter [f] [f] Since R. B. as before is signified in his Lines touching which I made my first Observation on his Explanatory Postscript affirms that he hath never found Occasion to repent or retract any thing from the Matters or Principles asserted by him and that he laboured with all the Care and Circumspection he could so to express himself as not to offend in a word I may now with Confidence affirm that his words therein since he well understands the Propriety of Words and Sentences may be justly taken to be the meaning of his Mind That now his Fallatiousness may appear I shall in order thereto cite his very words relating to the Matter in hand touching Jurisdiction over Mens Property R. B. in his Sixth Section treating how far this Government extends Pag. 39. thus sayeth This Order reacheth and taketh up the Composing of Difference as to outward things and further sayeth We do boldly averr as a People gathered together by the Lord unto the same Faith c. that we have Power and Authority to decide and remove these things amongst our selves From which positive Sentence it naturally follows that the Church touching whose Authority in Government he treats hath Power to decide and remove in Cases of Differences touching outward things and since in the same Section he useth the words Meum and Tuum with respect to outward things touching which Differences may arise it naturally follows that the Power claimed is in that Case a Power over Property I now desire that the Reader may observe that in this his Explanatory Postscript he sayeth not one word of the Assent of the Parties Differing which clearly shews that though as in the Fifth Observation is signified he intended to give under his own hand that he is principled as the aforesaid pretended Letter sayeth he is yet he therein deales fallaciously But now as to the things scrupled at W. R's Sixth Observation whereas some did suppose that I did ascribe to Friends an absolute Jurisdiction over mens Property in outward things therein I have been greatly mistaken for I never intended any such thing but simply to hold forth that which by the Apostle to the Corinthians 1 Cor. 6. is urged that whereas there would a manifest Scandal arise from Friends going to Law together that therefore such as will rather go to Law than seek to come to Agreement by the Interposing of Friends ought with a respect to their bringing such a Scandal be censured since it cannot be supposed that any such Difference as to outward things can fall out amongst Friends but some or other may be found who either by their own knowledge or by Advice Information of such as may be known in the Matter Controverted may bring it to an End Secondly that whereas I say there will not be wanting in case of Controversy the Spirit of God to give Judgment through one or other in the Church of Christ so long as any Assembly can properly or in any tolerable Sense be so called some have supposed that by these last words I did insinuate as if any Assembly assuming to themselves the Name of the Church of Christ and having some shew of it may of right claim the Power of such Decision and ought accordingly to be submitted unto such a thing never entred me but was far from my Intention for albeit that I Judge that an Assembly may sometimes deserve the Name of the Church of Christ or not to have lost that claim albeit not altogether so fresh and lively at least in the Generality of its Members and so under some languishing and hazard to decay if Life do not again come up more abundantly as may be seen in the Example of the seven Churches of Asia whom notwithstanding of the several weaknesses divers of them were under yet the Apostle or rather the Spirit of Christ by the Apostle Dignifies with the name of the Churches of Christ Neither did I intend to make this Judgement necessarily to attend every particular Church or Assembly but by the Church there I understood it in a more universal Sense that is some or other among all the Churches of Christ who being spoken of in the Complex may be rightly termed the Church of Christ And this is manifest in the same Example of the Churches of Asia for albeit we might suppose there might have been wanting in each of them some to give forth this true Judgement concerning them yet in respect they were such as in some tolerable Supposition might be termed the Churches of Christ * * Rev 2.4 5 14 15 20. Chap. 3.16 albeit some of them had lost their first Love and were neer to have their Candlestick removed and some had the Doctrine of Balaam and of the Nicholaitans and some suffered the Woman Jezabel and some were Luke-warm and ready to be spued out we see God would not suffer them to be without a certain Judgment but gave forth one through the Apostle John who was a Member of the Church but to esteem that any Assembly may be tolerably
Nations are not to be blamed for all their Idolatry Wickedness and Superstition for that they are not sensible of the Evil of it whereas Truth teaches us to believe that had they been Faithfull to the small measure of Light in things more obvious it would have further opened and manifested other things Then should not the Jews have been condemned for crucifying Christ since Peter says they did it ignorantly and Paul testifies that if they had known they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory Yea then all those that persecuted and burned the Protestant-Martyrs were not to be Judged for it because they supposed they did well in it even according to Christ's Testimony who says that in killing you they shall think they do God good Service shall men then never be condemned for doing evil or omitting their Duty because they see it not what absurdity would folthereupon may easily appear and yet it is strange that W. R. in his Papers should labour so much against this affirming very positively that nothing ought to be given forth in the Church of Christ but by way of recommendation not of command wherein he doth either greatly mistake the matter as affirmed by me or otherways run into a far greater inconveniency than he is aware for if he mean that no man of or from himself only or by vertue of any office or place he either hath or hath born in the Church of Christ ought to Command any things to be performed in the Church I freely agree to it and have asserted the same in very full and ample termes But if he will say that no man albeit really moved by the Spirit of God ought to go further than a meer reomendation it is a most insolent limiting of God under a false pretence of Liberty will necessarily conclude that God hath not Power to command any thing unless men be content to agree to it For the Controversy is here drawn to a narrow Compass for he that will allow that God hath Power to command things to be practised in the Church and that those Commands must be conveyed by immediate Revelation through some of the Members of the Church and that it may fall out that some of the Members of the Church may thorough weakness or unwatchfulness not be sensible they must either acknowledge that such are to be condemned or say that God hath not Power to Command or that there is no such Revelations now a Days as do the Priests and Truths Enemies or that Man is not Condemnable for Disobeying God if he believe it not to be his Duty which is as much as to say that Unbelief is no Sin Now let these things be seriously considered how this is or can be avoided without granting the things affirmed by me for what way the Truth can be asserted the Honour and just Authority of God acknowledged the necessity and continuance of immediate Revelation affirmed and the Iniquity of Unbelief not justified and the just Judgement of God upon the Rebellious and Disobedient vindicated without affirming what I have done And if any can do this in words more wary than I have done I shall very readily agree to it For that things may be proposed to the Church by way of Command and further than a meer Recommendation the whole Current of the Scriptures shews not only to the Church among the Jews where Moses and the Prophets do propose the Will of God to be performed very positively and peremtorily but even under the New-Covenant as appears in the 15th of the Acts and in many places of Pauls Epistles particularly that on 2 Thes 3.14 If any Man obey not our Word by this Epistle note that Man and have no Company with him that he may be ashamed This then being manifested with respect to those times I would know of W. R. whether Christ has now lost any of his Authority or has left off to rule his church immediately by his Spirit whether so to affirm be not grossely to contradict the Ancient and Primitive Doctrine of Friends W. R 's Tenth Observation [k] [k] This is not my Concern having given no Occasion in my Answer for this his Defence and therefore do make no reply thereto Fifthly Whereas some did suppose that I did make the Difference in the End but very small betwixt Decissive Judgement among Friends and among Papists and other Persons because I say they place the Decisive Judgement in the Plurality of an Assembly made up of their chief Teachers and Ministers and albeit I limit it not to that yet I seem to affirm That it most usually is so conveyed and so the difference only is that they make it always so and I most usually To this I answer that if in Charity I may suppose this insinuation comes not from malice at least it proceeds from great Ignorance of the Popish Principles and it were better for such to be silent than to Judge of things they do not understand for the Difference here is very Great and Fundamental in respect both Papists and others do affirm that men by vertue of an Outward succession or vocation may have true Right to sit and give Judgment in such Assemblies albeit they be void of true Holiness and have not the Grace of God which they say is no necessary qualification to the being of a Minister so that they Place the Power of Judgment not onely in the plurality of Votes absolutely in which we differ from them but also in the Judgment of such as may without any absurdity by their own Principles be supposed to be all and each of them void of the true Grace of God and whom even supposing them to be Gracious they Affirm not at all to be led by the immediate Spirit of Christ which they say is now ceased now can there be a greater difference than is betwixt these two to wit to affirm that the Power of decision is in an Assembly of men to being Members of which assembly the Grace of God is no necessary qualification and who deny any such thing as to be immediately led by the Spirit of Christ as a thing not attainable in these Dayes and yet that all Christians must be Subject to what the Plurality of such an Assembly so Constitute do determin And to Affirm that the Power of Decision is onely and alone in the Spirit not necessarily tied to a general assembly but if it please God to make use of such an assembly yet neither to the Plurality of them but in and thorough such of his Servants as he sees meet and that none are capable or can be supposed to be Members of such an assembly or esteemed such from whom such a Judgment can be expected or ought to be received unless they be men in whom the Grace of God not onely is but has truly wrought to mortify and regenerate them in a good Measure in whom the Judgment of Truth really
gave that Judgment had not then perused it And as to their saying 'T was to the great Derogation of the Christian Authority of the said Meeting meaning the Second Daies Meeting I have this to say That I never understood that Friends owned any Authority in any of our Meetings as a Christian Authority but the Power of God which is Invisible and cannot be diminished and therefore I may well query whether 't is not Great Weakness in any to conclude that I am capable to do any Action which can either lessen diminish or take from that Authority and I hope none of the said Subscribers are so remote from Truth and a good Understanding as to conclude that the Second Dayes Meeting hath any Authority given them by Man but if any should be so Weak I must tell such that as I never gave it any so am wholly uncapable by writing to lessen it if they have any And whereas 't is said that the Objections of the said William Rogers lay not so much against the Matter and Substance of the said Robert Barcly's Book as against the way of Expressing some Passages therein This I say is untrue my Objections were against the very Matter and Substance of some things contained in his Book On the whole matter I have this to say I could not obtain a Meeting of Friends to be chosen by Robert Barclay and my self though the Person immediately concerned which agrees not with the Examples of the Scriptures of Truth Read Acts 15.1 2. And that the aforesaid Eminent Preacher as the Mouth of others under the Notion of the Church Obstructed and though in the Meeting held Friends Deportment was grave orderly and inoffensive as to me ward whilst the debate on my Objections held yet I am greatly satisfied that by the Publication of the said two Papers every Impartial Reader that will be at the paines seriously to weigh the said Papers this Answer and Robert Barcaly's Book and Postscript may easily discern the Errour of Robert Barclay and Charles Marshal with the Thirty Six subscribers but those who will have an Eye to Papers and Bookes for the Writers Sakes more then for the matters Contained therein may in time come to have their Understanding so Vailed as to be brought to worship Images and to esteem * See George Fox his Book of Womens Meeetings wherein he queries and was not Micah's Mother a virtuous Woman Read Judges 17th and then a few Lines of these and such like Women were recorded for their Wisdom and their Virtue Michah's Mother a vertuous Women in Israel though she caused a Molten Image and a Graven Image to be made and put in the House of her Son Judges 17. If any should be offended at these Lines let such Exhort Charles Marshall and the other Thirty Six Subscribers concerned to make better Use for time to come of so much Condescention as appeared in me for the sake of Robert Barclay whom I once accounted my Brother when I perceived from the Words of Robert Barclay's Mouth that he appeared a better Principled Man than his Lines imported William Rogers The FOURTH PART OF THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate Innovator WHEREIN A RELATION is given of several Proceedings since George Fox's Wife caused a Paper dated the 21 th of the 11 th M on 1672. to be Read against Iohn Story in a Quarterly-Meeting in Westmoreland Therein signifying that he judged the Power of God as it broke forth in Hymns or Spiritual Songs And is chiefly to discover That George For hath Erroneously concerned himself in the Divisions amongst the People called Quakers Which therefore may serve for A WARNING TO THE Children of Light that their Dependency may not be on G. F. a mis-led fallible Man nor yet on any Mortal Man Men or Name whatsoever save the Name of JESUS who is given of the Father to be Salvation unto the Ends of the Earth By William Rogers Hosea 9.7 The Dayes of Visitation are come the Dayes of Recompence are come Israel shall know it the Prophet is a Fool the Spiritual Man is Mad for the Abundance of thine Iniquity and great Hatred Printed in the YEAR 1680. The FOURTH PART OF THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate and Innovator c. THis small Treatise is chiefly designed to be Communicated unto those who profess the Appearance of Christ Jesus the Son of the Eternal God by his Light in the Consciences of the Sons and Daughters of Men to be a sufficient Guide unto the Father of Life The Faith of such is That those who receive this Appearance or Gift of God so as to Live and Walk according to the Divine Motions and Dictates thereof shall come to know the Salvation of God through Christ Jesus their Law-giver Lord and Saviour 'T is publickly known that this Principle of Truth hath been held forth and owned by those who in Derision have been called QUAKERS of whom it may be now said to the great Grief and Exercise of the Spirit of the Faithful Followers of Christ amongst them That though the Principle in which such of them who have received from God a Divine and Spiritual Knowledge have believed is Unchangeable yet the Enemy hath so prevailed as that the Seeds of Dissention and Discord sown amongst them have taken so deep Root as that their Publick Meetings for Worship in several Parts of this Nation have become the Stages of Contention to the Dishonour of God his Truth and People And in divers Parts of this Nation 't is reputed that George Fox is at least one of the Chief Abettors of one Party and Iohn Story of another But how far that Report may with respect to G. F. have Credit with others besides my self I shall leave to the Sense and Savour of the understanding impartial Reader when he hath throughly perused this Treatise And though from their Names mentioned in the Title-Page some may be in Expectation that the Difference between the People called QUAKERS with respect to the present Seperation in some Parts of this Nation may be Treated on at large yet that 's not my present Design or Purpose Though I must confess that Matter is at large Collected and impartially Stated and lies ready by me for the Press and in Probability may come forth or at least a Part thereof more than what is in this Fourth Part contained in its proper Time and Season unless the Lord shall be pleased to change the Hearts of the Persecuting Opposers of John Wilkinson and John Story and other Servants of the Lord unto whom the Truth is as dear as ever and that the Door may be opened again in our Publick Assemblies for Worship of God whereby those who have the Word of the Lord to Publish in the Demonstration of his Power and Spirit may not be so frequently obstructed by the airy imaginary and empty Discourses of such as have pretended to have the Word of the Lord to declare when
it hath evidently appeared The Lord hath not spoken by them if so be the Tree may at this Day be known by its Fruit as well as in Dayes past But rather that the Words of the Prophet are fulfilling if not fulfilled in them when he said The Prophet is a Fool the Spiritual Man is Mad for the Multitude of thine Iniquity and great Hatred Hos 9.7 For I am a living Witness that Imagination hath so possessed the Heads and Hearts of many that Travel under the Notion of Ministring Friends as that instead of manifesting a Divine Understanding in the Things of God or speaking the Word of Truth in season they have brought forth the Fruits of an unsound Mind shewing forth no better Resemblance or Evidence of being Ministers of the Gospel of Christ that divide the Word aright than the Confused Chaos before the Creation of God was of the Beauty and Order that now is in it And for my own part I am well satisfied and that on sufficient Ground too large to insert that either the Multitude of Iniquity or Great Hatred through the Influence of G. F. possessing the Hearts of such is the Occasion thereof But notwithstanding my Design is not as I said before to Treat at large on the present Difference between the People called QUAKERS with respect to the present Seperation in some Parts of this Nation yet since I am also satisfied and that on sufficient Ground that G. F. hath been one of those very Persons occasioning the Differences to arise unto the Heighth they now are or at least a Countenancer thereof at a large Rate I purpose to Treat a little thereon and partly as relating to G. F. that so the Impartial Reader may consider Whether if G. F. had contented himself in Reality and Truth with the Place of a Servant of Christ that sought not Dominion over his Brethren's Faith and Consciences nor yet to expect Submission to his outward Precepts Prescriptions or Orders further than every Friend to Truth was or might be by the Light of Christ in the Conscience led and guided therein The Differences now amongst Friends touching which some seem ready to bite and devour others might never have been For my own part I in no wise question but that G. F. is one chief Instrument that a destroying and devouring Spirit hath entred into some amongst the Flock and that many a Simple Honest-hearted Friend to Truth and Righteousness have received and believed Lyes and slanderous false Reports against many Brethren undeservedly to the betraying of their Simplicity and Love to the Truth and filling their Hearts with Hatred Enmity and Prejudice And of this am I as well satisfied as I am that there is a God in Heaven before whom both He and all the Sons of Men must come to Judgment and that the Blood of many such if they perish before true Repentance will be laid at G. F ' s. Door Otherwise I should not have appeared to discover the said G. F. as in Conscience I am now constrain'd to do And therefore a Warning is now proclaimed unto all such That they Redeem their Time because the Dayes are Evil and proceed no further to receive and believe Lies and Scandalous Reports against such whom they have once accounted Honourable on the Credit of G. F. as a Man that for several Years past hath not Erred For many are this day Witnesses that his Actions have rendred him an Erroneous Man And for as much as he hath refused to give that Satisfaction for his Errours as in the like Cases he hath prescribed for others it hath encreas'd the Concern of my Conscience to discover the same and that also for the sakes of the Simple and Honest-hearted and that those Innocent and Tender Children that are growing up from the Loynes of Believing Parents c. may in their tender Years be awakened and warned that they may not be Captivated in the like Snare and so bred up in a meer Form and affected with Airy Imaginations which have no Tendency to open their Understandings thereby to give unto them the Knowledge of those Principles of Truth which the Faithful by the Spirit have been led to own and hold forth nor yet the Way of the Kingdom of God that so their Foot-steps may be directed into the Path of Peace and they come to know a lively Feeling and Sense of that Immortal Power and Spirit by which the Everlasting God whose VVayes are Unchangeable reached unto many in the Beginning when the very Thoughts of being Embondaged again with the Beggerly Elements and Rudiments of this World or of having our Eye or Dependency on any Mortal Man was loathsome I shall now proceed to lay down a few of those things which are in some Measure an Evidence to me That my afore-said Sense touching G. F. is true referring the Reader for further Satisfaction to the First and Fifth Parts of The Christian-Quaker distinguish't from the Apostate and Innovator First I take notice of Seven Questions which were sent unto John Wilkinson by Robert Barrow and others who said They were desired by G. F. so to do The Queries are as followeth together with the Substance of the Answers thereunto Query 1. Whether didst thou say concerning that Paper sent down to the Quarterly-Meeting at Kendal That it came from the Female Answ I Remember no such Words yet was greatly troubled at a * Note This is that Paper mentioned in the Title-Page that G. P's Wife caused to be Read in a Quarterly-Meeting and was given forth in her Name Paper from the Female Read with grievous Accusations against our Faithful Brother John Story which as I said greatly troubled me and many besides me knowing his Clearness from such Things and knowing his Vessel filled with the Power of God in abiding in his House Qu. 2. Whether didst thou say at the Quarterly-Meeting at Kendal to Margaret Fox What Ground or Foundation have Friends to practise things which are imposed by Man or in the Will of Man which the Scripture gives no Authority or Warrant for or Words to that Effect Answ The Words as stated in this Question I did not speak to M. F. yet the Substance I own for the Truth in it Qu. 3. Whether didst thou Read or consent to be Read in the latter-End of a Quarterly-Meeting at Kendal a Paper of Anthony Pearsons or others that directed or advised That the Way of Truth should be as the Way of a Ship in the Sea or such like Answ Nay But if they mean no Impression of Form left behind I like it well Qu. 4. Whether didst thou advise That Papers of Condemnation should not be Recorded Answ Nay I had no Occasion to Advise But my Advice was and is That Condemnations should not stand on our Deacons Books to Posterity according as the Meeting agreed unto because Failings in the Holy Scripture have proved Weapons for the Man of Sin to fight with against Perfection
not believe that we ought to expect that any such Motion from the Spirit of God should appear through any one or more Members of the Body of Christ with respect to other Members of the same Body And our Faith is That all those who are Heirs of that Kingdom which is Everlasting are entitled to a like Freedom not to be imposed upon each by other contrary to that Divine Sense and Heavenly Understanding which as Co-heirs and Co-workers together they are made Partakers of And this in the ensuing Discourse will evincingly be manifested from the Scriptures of Truth However we must confess he that is not diligent to wait upon God in the Exercise of his own Measure of Grace received is by the Light of Christ Condemnable not for refusing to perform that which he sees not to be his Duty with respect to the Observation of Other Mens Lines made ready to his Hand wherein he is not satisfied but for his Neglecting to wait upon God because 't is manifest in every one that hath been convinced of the Truth that 't is our Duty to wait upon God And this our Sense and Reason answers to the Testimony of the Scriptures of Truth where 't is said Rom. 1.18 19. The Wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all Ungodliness and Unrighteousness of Men who hold the Truth in Unrighteousness because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it unto them So 't is clear to us from the Scriptures of Truth without us as well as from the Light of Christ within us that the Wrath and Condemnation of God goes forth against such as live not answerable to what God hath manifested in them But 't is neither agreeable to the Scriptures of Truth or Light within for any to pour forth their Judgments against any for not following or giving heed unto this or t'other Outward Prescription or Observation wherein the Conscience is concerned when such are Not convinced thereof to be their Duty from the Mainfestation of God's Spirit in them The next thing to be considered is this That in all the last mentioned Objection there is no Plea for Obedience unto or following any thing but the Spirit in its Appearance whether through the Brethren or thy self From whence we observe First That there is no certain Description who are meant by the word Brethren Secondly That 't is the Appearance of the Spirit that we ought to follow Now should this Question be asked of such who may so object as afore-said Wouldyou have us follow we know not what We are ready to believe that they would say Nay if they answered any thing to the Question And if so then the Force of the Objection falls for that we account it our Duty to follow the Appearance of the Spirit of God through the meanest Member when our Consciences are convinced that 't is the Appearance of that Spirit But before we cannot say in Truth though we should do as such an one would have us That we are Followers of and led by the Spirit of God 1 Cor. 12.13 No more than Jesus can in Truth be called Lord and not by the Holy-Ghost Besides we cannot on this Occasion but testifie That as that Obedience which is of Faith in Christ finds Acceptance with the Lord so that Obedience which is not of Faith being Sin is but a Dead Performance Rom. 14.23 not the Fruit of a Living Member who through the Obedience of Faith unto Righteousness is made alive unto God And therefore it cannot be the Duty of any Member of Christ's Body to run before his inward Guide but to wait upon the Lord that all his Actions may be regulated according to the Manifestation and Revelation of the Spirit of God in himself Which seems clearly agreeable to the Testimony of the Apostle where he saith Phil. 3.15 16. If in any thing ye be otherwise-minded God shall reveal even this unto you Nevertheless whereunto we have already attained let us walk by the same Rule He that savours the Things of God may easily perceive that the Meaning of the Spirit through Paul unto those Philippians was That those who were come to a State of Perfection should walk by that Rule whereunto they had attained but those who had not attained so far and were otherwise-minded were to wait for the Revelation of the Son And now to conclude as to this Objection We have this further to add That we do know many of our Opposers or at least such who are not at Unity with us have very confidently made use of such Discourse as is contained in the last recited Objection to induce us to follow Outward Prescriptions and Orders though not convinced of its Service which occasions us to be jealous That in Process of Time the Enemy may so enter in at this Door as that Darkness may more generally over-shadow again than it yet doth though our Hope in God is That he will lay such a Constraint on many of those whose Eyes are open beholding the Approached Apostacy as that they may be raised in a Sense of God's Indignation and appear as Lyons on the Behalf of the Lyon of the Tribe of Judah to oppose every Appearance of that Spirit which would be exalting Self or any Outward Form Observation Prescription or Order to be as a Bond on the Members of Christ's Body when by the Light of Christ their alone Law-giver they are not fully perswaded thereof in their own Consciences which undoubtedly was the Meaning of the Spirit through Paul when he writ unto the Romans Chap. 14. Ver. 5 23. Let every Man be fully perswaded in his own Mind for whatsoever is not of Faith is Sin And to come a little closer to the Matter in hand 'T is too too evident That Non-conformity to Outward Prescriptions is taken as a Mark of Apostacy even amongst those who have been under the Profession of Truth of which many Instances too too large here to insert might be produced out of the Second Part of this * Meaning an Historical Manuscript made mention of in the Preface to The First Part of the Christian-Quaker Treatise unto which we refer the Reader However that the Impartial Reader may here have one Instance that this our Sense is not wholly groundless we say John Wilkinson and William Rogers testify That a Friend at the Meeting at Drawell which Meeting is spoken of in the Second Part of this ‖ Meaning the afore-said Historical Manuscript Treatise signified that G. F. should say to this Effect He that is not for Womens Meetings meaning as was understood Womens distinct Meetings as exercised amongst Friends was not fit to fit in Mens Meetings By which Sentence 't is evident if the End wherefore Womens-Meetings were by many first assented to be considered that if the Form of Relieving the Poor prescribed by G. F. should not be Assented to by any Elder in
been suckt in by many and then 't is easie to be favour'd that if the Publishers thereof do but once put the Bare-Skin on any Friends Back though never so much of the Lamb's Nature and Spirit there will not be wanting those Sorts of Beasts with whom 't is supposed Paul fought at Ephesus who undoubtedly were Unreasonable Men to bait that Person on whom to speak comparatively the Bear-Skin is put This Discourse may occasion this further Inquiry By what Mark may we best be Informed to discover those Ministring Persons in your Publick Meetings who are of Party with G. F. as thou takest it and that are the Encouragers of such Doctrine and Exhortation as before-mentioned to exclude the Reason the Wisdom and the Jealousie and to have an Eye to the Brethren c By which word Brethren I know is meant one Party of those called Ministring Friends This I query of thee the rather because thou accountest it a Good Rule to Judge of the Tree by thy own Taste and Savour of the Fruit. To this I Answer What Garb they may appear in I know not But the Garb they have appeared in and the Fruits they have brought forth I well know by the Hearing of my Ear which are these They have been much Exercised in crying out against Dark Spirits Leavened Spirits Troublers of Israel thereby intending such as have and yet do approve themselves Faithful Friends gain-saying the Testimony of such as have declared the Word of God in our Publick Meetings in the Demonstration of the Power and Spirit though they have not been capable to detect the Publisher with any Evil Consersation or Unsoundness of Doctrine and oft-times spend their Breath at an eager Rate a long time together when some part at least of what they bring forth being but duly weighed is a meer Scandal to Religion the Principle and Practice of our Antient Friends in the Beginning Not having a Word in many such tedious Discourses I him at to inform the Congregation of the Principles of Truth which the People called Quakers have profest nor yet to direct the Hearers in the Way that leads unto Life Everlasting Obj. This may some say is treating of Things in a general Way without particular Matter to evidence this general Reflection Answ I confess 't is so and that it ought not to be Evidence against any one not named neither is it my Design that it should But rather that I may thereby become a Remembrancer to those who may read the same that they may consider whether it hath not been so though at such times they may have been so much swallowed up with Affection to an imaginary airy Declaration sounded forth with the Outward Appearance of great Zeal as that they have taken that to be pure Good Bread which in Reality is nothing but Empty Husks And if any shall think my general Reflection wholly groundless let such give the Notice thereof and I doubt not but I shall be capable to bring many sufficient Witnesses to the Truth hereof For at the Moment I now write I am well satisfied there are Hundreds will testify the same who have been Ear-Witnesses as well as my self However I must also testify That there are others amongst the People called Quakers and that I hope by far the greater Part that cannot be affected with such kind of Doctrine and Exhortation as to Exclude the Reason the VVisdom and the Jealousie and whether they see or see not to have their Eyes unto others so as to follow them And these are not willing to concern themselves either the one way or the other in relation to the Differences further than from certain Evidence of Matter of Fact And these not receiving sufficient Satisfaction that John VVilkinson and John Story were such as represented have been as I am fully perswaded termed such as had let in Jealousies the Reason and the VVisdom and on that foot termed Dark Spirits by the Publishers or Approvers of this Doctrine Have an Eye to the Brethren and if you do not see your selves you must follow us that do see A notable Expedient whereby the Leader and those who may be Led may like Blind-Men fall into the Ditch together and instead of following the Bright Beams of the Sun may be found Followers only of the dark Body of the Moon To be short When I consider whence they came and how Great G. F. is Esteem'd with such as Publish such kind of Doctrines and Exhortations as before is Cited I am well satisfied in my Conscience that there are many at this Day that have no better Measure to discover whether one professing the Truth be Right and in the Light and Power of God but by understanding how they stand affected to G. F. and his Outward Prescriptions as if all the Labours Tryals Sufferings and Travels of Friends were to center in the Exaltation of G. F. The certain Sense whereof hath encreas'd the Concern of my Conscience to give forth this Treatise Entituled The Fourth Part of the Christian-Quaker to which also is added The Fifth Part of the Christian-Quaker both which are a proper Looking-Glass for those who desire to behold G. F. in his proper Image But to return Robert Barrow and Three more all Informers against John Wilkinson and John Story writ to some Friends of Bristol on the Occasion of their Dislike of some Proceedings in the North and acquaint them That by the Authority of God's Power they have an Understanding given them of God to Act and Determine in Affairs appertaining to the Gospel and its Order And forasmuch as this hath been signifyed unto G. F. by my self and others in a Letter directed unto him and others Dated the 22 th Day of the 2 d. Month 1679. and that he hath not yet manifested any Dislike thereof though something to that Purpose was desired 't is cause of Jealousie that their Pretended Power was but under him if not from him and the rather also because they are great Espousers of his Cause and that 't is evident from what is already written that G. E. is one of those Vs already mentioned by John Blaikling At length some Friends of London and Bristol agree that Six Friends go into the North to endeavour an Accommodation of the Differences and thereupon a Meeting was had at Drawch in Sedberch-Parish in York-shire which continued Four Dayes to Audite the Differences but had no Power given by the Parties differing to Judge For some disaffected towrads John Wilkinson John Story would not permit that the afore said Nine Judges so termed should he Excluded as Parties and to the Meeting broke up not agreeing too give any Judgment in the Case However some took upon them to give forth a Narrative so called but was rather a Judgment with a large Preamble of Matters not acted at Drawel which disagreeing with the Relation I gave of Transactions in that Meeting being One of the Six chosen to go down
into the North much Writing was occasioned in Relation thereto which being not my present Purpose to Treat of I here omit That now the Reader may have an Understanding of that Sense and Judgment that was with John Wilkinson and John Story in relation to those Five Heads from whence all the before-mentioned Forty-Four Articles do spring I think meet to Cite their Testimony in Relation thereto read at the Meeting at Drawel And then comparing such their Sense and Judgment with those Antient and Faithful Testimonies of many labouring Friends in the Gospel of Peace who changed not their way since they became Publishers thereof to the Day they fell asleep it may then easily be savoured from what Spirit all the Mire and Dirt that hath been cast up against our Antient and yet Honourable Friends John Wilkinson and John Story hath sprung Their said Testimony now follows ON the whole Matter in the Fear and Presence of the Amighty God we declare That as we do approve of Monthly and Quarter-Meetings for the necessary Service of the Truth so we further say That as these or any other Meetings of Friends in Tenth shall be continued to answer these Services we believe that as it now is it also will become our Duty to be at Vnity with our Brethren in the Services thereof And though one of us viz. John Wilkinson did condescend to subscribe to a Paper for the Execting a Womans-Meeting in the Country to answer the Ends in the Paper proposed which he testifies he then did in Singleness of Heart for Vnity's sake Yet according to that inward Sense we now have there appears to us no Absolute Necessity to continue Womens-Meetings in this Country distinct and separate from the Men and therefore do Conscientiously forbear to Assent or Encourage to lay the Intentions of Marriages before them Yet that Inward Sense and Heavenly Vnderstanding we haue received from God hath and yet doth confirm us in this Iudgment That 't is not agreeable with the Line of Truth to oppose others in the Exercise and appointed Service of the said Meetings as here-to-fore and yet settled and agreed upon who being Conscientious therein are otherwise minded than we are And if any of our Words and Actions have had any Tendency to oppose c. which we are not Conscious of but if we were we would readily confess we say the Truth in us would have Condemned it even as it now doth And if it shall please the Lord to manifest unto us a Service in those Meetings in the Country as well as Cities the same Integrity towards God which hath dwelt with us these many Years past we believe will become a Bond on us to joyn Hand and Heart with others our Brethren and Sisters therein But till then our Desires are That this may not become an Occasion of Straitness of Spirit each towards other but that Embracing the wholesom Counsel of the Apostle in another Case If in any thing ye are otherwise-minded wait till God reveal we may walk together in that pure undefiled Love of our God which thinketh no Evil. That though many of our Brethren see a Service in Recording Condemnations and Leaving them upon Record to Posterity yet from that Inward Sense and Heavenly Vnderstanding we have we see no Necessity to leave them upon Record to Posterity or retain them when the Sin is blotted out and remitted by the Lord neither to be extended further than the Offence is known nor yet to continue longer than the Memory of the Offence abideth But if any see meet from an Inward Sense of Truth in themselves to leave such Testimonies relating to themselves to Posterity we have there-with Vnity That this our Sense may be no Occasion of Straitness of Spirit each towards others is the Earnest Desire of our Souls who desire the Prosperity of Truth and Peace amongst all the Churches of God As to Tythes We can in truth say 'T was never so much as in our Hearts to speak any Words whatsoever with the least Intent to Strengthen any in the Payment thereof nor yet to weaken the Faith of any having a Testimony in our Hearts that Tythes as at this Day paid are Anti-christian That as Groanings Sighing Soundings and Singings may proceed from Deceitful Spirits so also we declare Groanings Sighing Soundings and Singings may be the Fruit of the Spirit of the Lord amongst God's People And that as the First is Discouraged the Second ought to be Encouraged And the Earnest Desires of our Souls are That as to these Things nothing but the Spirit of Truth and sound Iudgment may appear either to Reprove or to Encourage And though we have been Accused as if we were Opposers of such Groanings c. which the Truth approveth yet God is our Witness we know it not That though we have been represented as Persons Encouraging Fleeing in Time of Persecution We say we are not Conscious to our selves of so doing For we believe those who stand not to their Testimony but flee there-from in the Day of Persecution may truly be accounted either Weak in the Faith or Departing from the Faith And thus having given our Inward Sense according to the Vprightness and Integrity of our Hearts concerning these Five General Heads from whence all the Forty-Four Articles do arise we shall with this conclude That the God of Heaven is our Witness our Desires are to approve our selves Men of Peace in the Abhorrency of all Fleshly Liberty and Loosness and to follow after Truth and Righteousness that the Regin of the Power of the Eternal God may be over all so will the Kingdoms of this World become the Kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ As to the Two Questions Answered by the Friends and Brethren met on this Occasion We in the Fear of the Lord say We in the Proposing thereof had not the least Thoughts to obtain your Yea and Nay with intent thereby to strengthen such who may be accounted our Party in any thing that 's contrary to Truth nor to encourage Loosness or Bad Spirits But conscientiously to remove the Scruples of some And further we say We are better satisfyed with your Explication therein than with your bare Yea and Nay For that we as well as you are sensible Apostates and Bad Spirits seeking a Fleshly Liberty have made use of Arguments deducible from such Principles of Truth to oppose the Power of God it self and the Practice of God's People in the Power John Wilkinson John Story 'T is now worthy the Readers Notice That G. F. takes occasion to write unto John Wilkinson and John Story sometime after the Meeting at Drawel which being Cited in the Eighth Section of the Second Part of the before-mentioned Manuscript together with Answer thereto pertinent on this Occasion I think meet here to Transcribe the same together with those Observations that are made thereon in the said Section THis is the Word of the Lord to you John
Wilkinson and John Story and your Company to call in all your Papers which ye have given forth in your Separation which tend to nothing but disquieting Friends Minds and bring them into Strife Jangling and vain Disputing and corrupt their Minds and draw them from better Things and from the Lord and his Peaceable Truth And you may see if you will not shut your Eyes what your Spirit begetteth into viz. Strife and what Spirit is it that hath led and guided you So if you do not give over your Work and Separation the Lord God will blast your Spirit and Work and you will become hardned and as bad as the old Opposers James Naylor and his Company and John Perrot and Pennyman and Cobet and Muggleton Mark your End for the Seed of Life Reigns and will grind to Powder its Opposers This 23 d. of 8 th M on 76. George Fox To the afore-said Letter John Wilkinson returned this ensuing Answer George Fox I Received thy Lines in which thou say'st This is the Word of the Lord to you John Wilkinson and John Story and your Company to call in all your Papers which you have given forth in your Separation c. I judge thou meanest not that that is a Separation that all Friends meet not Outwardly together Truly George we might have expected thou would have told us in Love what the Separation thou speakest of consisted in whether we are separated from the Light within the Doctrine of Truth or have builded again that which we have once destroyed or what we have left undone that God's Truth in our Hearts requires of us and what Papers we have given forth against the Light Within When the Word through thee concerning this Matter enters our Hearts and gives Light to us that the Light of Truth manifests us guilty of a Separation from God's Truth and Giving out Papers against it we shall readily confess it and Repent But till we know it the Word of the Lord that is as a Hammer and thy Prophesies be to them who are in the Separation and in Strife causing Divisions viz. with Articles of Accusations disquieting Friends Minds with a New Form and Way of Proceeding carryed on with a Profession of Church-Authority and great Help which indeed was seldom wanted in a Separation from Truth when the Apostacy entred And truly there is great Cause of Iealousie what will be the End of these Things Thou shouldst have told us what new Things we have brought in as bad as the old Opposers James Naylor and his Company and John Perrot and Pennyman c. before thou hadst told us The Lord God would blast your Spirit and Work And if James Naylor's Opposition consisted in Not Reproving his Company when they bowed to him and cryed Hosanna let it be a Warning to thee and Reprove thy Company when they give thee the Titles and Honour due to the Highest lest they that love Preheminence and Rule out-live thy Time and render thy Weakness to others as thou hast done his when thou art Dead and in thy Grave turned to Dust Therefore be Humble as a Member of the Heavenly Body under Christ the Head who Ruleth in his Church and People whose Right it is And remember the word to Moses with the time and place of his Death who sanctified not God in the sight of Israel his people Oh! well may Friends be called Apostates in their Day and be Curst of Men when they are Dead whose Condemnations are left on Record by others to Posterity in the Churches Books seeing James Naylor by thee is called an Old Opposer who confest his Weakness Repented and Dyed in Truth and Peace with God But George we might have been perswaded that thy Counsel and Advice thou gavest to the Churches in writing is greatly abused and we cannot Judge how thou couldst intend Force or such a way of proceeding with Friends about them That which I see at present tending to Vnity is for thee to Manifest what thou intendedst by them if thou intendest no force with them which thou couldst not do in Truth for that would let thee see Divisions would be the effect of them then manifest the Abuse they have done to thee and thy Counsel to Friends by their proceedings about them that we may know that thou art the same in Principle in Doctrine and Practice as in the beginning when thy Testimony was recommended to the Witness of God in all Consciences that thou mayst clear thy self that thou approvest of no Force about Religion but the Force and Effect of the Word delivered that the encrease may be of God and we all unto whom Gods Love hath been large may have Vnity in Truth as in the Beginning The 9th Mth. 76. From thy Friend John Wilkinson Unto this Letter George Fox gives this ensuing Answer John Wilkinson I Received thy Letter as I judge Subscribed J. W. wherein thou wouldst seem to shuffle off that which I writ to Thee and John Story and the rest as the Word of the Lord to you and that I should have told you Wherein you were Separated and what Papers you have given forth contrary to the Light and Truth c. Your Paper of your Eighty Subscribers is not from the Light of Christ nor as it was in the Beginning which you sent up and down and if it was not to beget into Strife Why did you send it to Carlisle and up and down to other Places and another Paper lately that you have sent besides all your other Papers And as for my Papers or Writings that I have been moved of the Lord to give forth I know no Friends that do abuse them if thou knowest any thou shouldst have mentioned them And if thow wer 't not Blind who art gone from the Light of Christ and the Spirit by which thou wast first Convinced thou wouldst see that I am the same as I was in the Beginning And as for thy Fear of making Force in Religion there is nothing but what is Pure can come into it But look into your own Paper wherein you say None of your own County nor other Counties must sit amongst your Chosen Men but whom you have given Power unto c. But I say as Christ said unto you He that Believes is Saved and he that Believes not is Condemned already And thy Neighbours and all that have been concerned with you do know what you are Separated from And I say also You are Separated from that Power and Spirit which did first Convince you for if not you would have been in Unity with me as at the first And thou hadst better have taken the Word of the Lord patiently and not resisted it But it seems it has been as a Fire unto Thee and You. For it was sent in Tenderness and Care unto you and for your Good though thou wouldst make thy self ignorant of what Separation you were gone into For you are separated from the Inward Light and Spirit that
you went from before you separated Outwardly And this Spirit was afraid of being limited but it would limit the Universal Spirit both in Males and Females as your Fruit has manifested concerning the Practice of Womens-Meetings and Recording Condemnations and Admonishing Payers of Tythes and other Evils as your Books and Papers and Neighbours can testify But thou who hast said They must be left to themselves to Condemn this Year or the other c. this gives Liberty to the Flesh For whil'st it is to Day they must hear his Voice But John I savour thy Spirit and know that thy Words come from an Angry Disquieted Fretful Peevish Spirit And poor Men and People for my part I pitty you as knowing and seeing that you are out of the Life and are not in the Spirit that did first Convince you and so not in the First Love And if ever thou comest to the tender Spirit and Light of Christ in thy Heart thou wilt see all those your Books and Papers of Strife and your Separation is all for Condemnation with the Light of Christ and they are the Works of that Spirit that led thee into Death and Strife And now thou cryest What and Wherein and This and the Other But come in and look into thy self And I say again It is the same Spirit that led James Naylor and John Perrot and others and John Perrot cryed against Imposition as you do and against the Mens-Meetings as you do against the Womens Though I know James Naylor did for himself Condemn that Spirit that led into a Separation which had been well if you had done so too And his Resurrection is Recorded as well as his Condemnation But many of his People remain to this Day out and have been and are as much against Men and Womens-Meetings as you And so it is but the same Spirit still And James Naylor's Opposition did not consist only in Not Reproving his Company for the Titles they gave him but his Opposition stood several Years about other Matters and his People cryed against our Meetings and sought with all their Might to destroy them But the Lord's Power blasted them all that did not come in by Repentance and Judgment And thou further sayest Let James Naylor's not Reproving his Company be a Warning to me and bid'st me Reprove my Company when they give me Titles and Honour due to the Highest c. Poor Man Is here thy Envy broken out But What are the Titles and Who are them that have given them And When and Where And whereas thou sayest Lest they that love Preheminence and Rule out-live my Time and render my VVeakness to others John Who are those that love Preheminence And What is my VVeakness that they may render it Why didst thee not mention it in thy Paper But this is from a prejudiced malicious Spirit and not from the Light of Christ to render my Weakness c. when I am Dead and in my Grave turned to Dust Nay John that which thee strikes at and thy Company and all the Evil Spirits in the World have struck at and all the Apostates before thee shall never turn it to Dust neither shall you ever get it into the Dust Glory to the Everlasting God for ever For He that Over-comes shall go no more forth and shall never Perish and he that Believeth on the Son of God hath Everlasting Life But if this be the Way of thy Preaching that the Members of the Heavenly Body turn to Dust I fear thou hast begotten none to God but into a Profession that will turn to Dust like thy self and Dust is the Meat of this Spirit that I know For I am in a Life that is over that Spirit which neither Thee nor the World cannot touch And if thou comes to be as Judas and Betray the Truth to the Priests I know what thee and they can kill if God will suffer you But I do not fear it And I must tell thee it is the Spirit of Judas the Betrayer that is gone from Truth and now would betray others from the Heavenly Body in the Eternal Fellowship in the Eternal Head For That which is Earthly is Earthly and that which is Heavenly is Heavenly And thou bidst me Be Humble as a Member of the Heavenly Body under Christ the Head c. So thou tell'st me I am a Member of Christ the Heavenly Body yet thou sayest When I am turned to Dust and Dead Is this thy Doctrine Are the Members of the Heavenly Body turned to Dust and Dead This Doctrine surely proceeds from Darkness and not from the Light of Christ And Is it to this thou wouldst have me bow and be humbled to Nay John I need none of thy Ministry and it will do no good in the State thou stands in to any For it is an Angry Malicious Froward Spirit that has possest thee And further thou bid'st me Remember the Word to Moses with the Time and Place of his Death who Sanctified not God in the Sight of Israel his People What dost thou infer from thence John That I have not Sanctified God before his People So thou hast set me above a Common Member and put me into an Office then but Must that which Sanctifies God be turned to Dust I thought John thou hadst owned Christ to be the Sanctifyer of all who is Greater than Moses and the End of Moses But John Wherein have not I Sanctified the Lord What Liberty have I given to Sin or any that are Faithful that have not followed you in your Separation Have you not taken Offence against some of them that came to Admonish such as were not Faithful amongst you and called it Over-driving them yea such as have been moved by the Spirit of God And Was it not called Popery when some went to Admonish Preston Meeting when they did not stand stedfast to the Lord And How was the Lord sanctifyed amongst you then And How was the Lord sanctifyed amongst you concerning your Paying of Tythes or your Conniving at your Wives or others Paying for you Much of which I could write concerning such like Things but I shall forbear But when you were in Strife I would have had you come over to me that you might have been brought into Unity before your Separation but you refused Nevertheless if Thee and John Story bring your Eighty Subscribers and come to me I will shew you wherein you Writings and Actions are contrary to the Light of Christ Jesus and Spirit of God by which you were Covinced in the Beginning Which had you loved the Gospel of Peace you would have come to me before you had made such a Jumble with your strife up and down the Nation For I have heard by several Faithful Friends where you have sent your Papers to prejudiced Persons against Men and Womens-Meetings and Recording Commendations and other Friends Practices which has begotten a great Dislike in Friends concerning you For what hath this been
but to stir up Strife and to sow Discord But Are not David and Manasses and Peter and many others their Sins recorded and their Repentances and Changing recorded in the Holy Scriptures And What needs John VVilkinson be afraid and trouble himself about the Recording the Condemnation of Sin and the Resurrection of the Just But Who has cursed David or Peter or any other whose Condemnation of Sin and Repentance and turning from it is Recorded or called them Apostates And What Spirit is this in John Wilkinson that would not have such Things recorded now which the Spirit of Truth recorded in former Ages Surely it is not the Spirit of God nor Light of Christ For if they be Sins private that only the Church knows them then they go no further than the Church But if they be open Sins to the World amongst Sinners then their Condemnation and Repentance must go as far as the Fact is known But if John VVilkinson be afraid lest he should be Curst and his Company and counted Apostates to Posterity if their Failings Sins and Transgressions should be Recorded Truly without your Repentance they will be Recorded and it would be well if you did Repent and Condemn them for then your Resurrection would be Recorded out of this Apostacy Else you need not question standing upon Record And they that have been led by you into a Separation and now come off from you do not bless you as several have declared So you bring that upon your selves which you think to avoid But Why shouldst Thou and You be so afraid of having your Repentance from Sin and Evil Actions recorded which you have committed in grieving God's Spirit and his People and opening the Mouthes of the World without a Fear of being Curst or counted Apostates Is this the Cause you would hide your Sins and have no Testimony given forth against you If Thou and You have such a Love to them Thou and You may keep them but the Truths Testimony will stand against all that is out of the Truth And there are Condemnations upon Record ever since 1652. so no new thing amongst us but according to the Light of Christ But the Lord knows I would have nothing but what is Pure to Rule and Reign and all Sin and Evil to be Condemned and that which is Private to be only amongst Friends and that which is Publick to be publickly Condemned to the World And if the World should say Such a one did so or so there is a Testimony upon Record that such an one was Converted and Translated to Posterity as David was from the Evil to Good and from the Darkness to the Light And had you continued in the Light of Christ Jesus and in his Spirit that led the Saints to condemn those Evils which are Recorded in Scripture and to Glorify God in their Resurrection you would never have been in Opposition against the Church of Christ's Practice now in such things by the same Spirit you call it a New Way And that which would not have Sin and Evil condemned and condemns that which Records it is for Condemnation For instead of being Curst as thou sayest them that do condemn Sin and Evil and arise out of that which is condennied and this being Recorded to Posterity the Church and their Relations can testify to their Change and their Dying in the Lord. But I am sorry for you the Lord God of Heaven knows that you should dishonour the Lord God and his Truth and People in the North and have separated from the Light and Spirit that did first Convince you For had you been in the Love and Spirit you would have been in the same Love in the same Gentleness and Meekness and Wisdom that is pure and easie to be intreated as it was in the Beginning And so you have lost that Glory that was in the Beginning and your Nakedness is discovered that the Priests Justices and Drunkards can say That the Quakers are Separate one from another And look into your selves if there be not a Froward Stubborn Self-willed Spirit and Rough and Short that now may talk of the Light of Christ and of the Spirit and would have Liberty but is to be Reproved and well it would be for you if you would turn at the Reproof And whereas thou speakest of a Way of coming into Unity Alack for thee If thou wast in the Universal Spirit and Power of God that is over All thou wouldst not make such a Noise about Imposition For indeed it is the very Spirit of Imposition in Thee and You that does not know what it would be at it self nor to what to bring others And much I could say as to that But that whereby you may come into Unity it must be in the Unlimited Power and Spirit and Light that did first Convince you and brought you into Unity and Meeting without Prescription of your Elders or Deacons or your Members So your Way to come into Unity is to come to the Light and Spirit that did first Convince you and Judge and Condemn this Spirit that hath led you into Separation with all its Works since And then in that Spirit there is no Fear of Imposition but Everlasting Unity in the Everlasting Seed that bruises the Head of the Serpent and all his Sons of Belial that are without the Yoak and are afraid of it Now there are them that would not be Yoaked with the Law of God nor with the Gospel nor with the Word of God which is a Hammer and a Fire and this is counted Imposition by such to be Yoaked and Hammered down and to be Reproved and Rebuked and Admonished this is Imposition and Over-driving though the Power and Spirit of the Everlasting God leads to it which Spirit of God sanctifies and exalts God with a sanctifyed Spirit and reproves all that which dishonours him or would defile and walks not in the Spirit by which the Body of Christ is Baptized and made to drink into And the Spirit of God charged and warned and reproved all the Unruly and charged the Faithful to stand fast and Admonished as in the Scriptures may be plentifully seen And what Is this Imposition and Force think you which God's Spirit led the Prophets and Apostles unto and had no Fellowship but with them that Walked in the same Spirit Or Will you say There is not the same Holy-Ghost now as was then Yes I must tell you the same and all that keep in it are in the Holy and Eternal Fellowship and it leads to the same Practice now as then And all such as the Apostles admonished to have no Fellowship withal as in their Epistles and in Jude Might not those have cryed Imposition as well as you And whereas thou speakest of a New Way and a New Form carryed on with Church-Authority c. This is the Priests Old Spirit that used to tell us of our New Way and Where was our Religion Twenty Years ago But
our Way was before the Devil was and all the Words Wayes and all Apostates and will be when they are gone and this I tell Thee and Them But these Words of thine are not from the Light of Christ nor the Spirit of God for I know no New Way nor New Form carryed on with Church-Authority as thou Reproachfully sayest But here thou hast manifested thy Separate Spirit and Mind For the Authority of our Men and VVomens-Meetings is the Power of Christ Jesus who is the New and Living Way and never changes And all Men and Women that believe in his Light and receive him he gives them Power to become the Sons of God and such are Heirs of the Power which is the Authority of the Meetings And they ought freely to come and go to that which they are Heirs of without your Imposition or Opposition And all that receive him in the Light he gives them Power and they are Heirs of his Power and his Life So they are Heirs of the Authority of the Men and VVomens-Meetings and every Man and Woman that is an Heir has Right to the Authority and they have taken their Possessions and are taking their Possessions And you in your Separate Spirit from the Divine Light of Christ say Your Chosen Men and them whom you have given Power unto And say Usurpers of Authority have come amongst your Chosen Men whom you have given no Power unto And that None shall sit amongst your Chosen Men neither of your own County nor others but to tell their Message and go their wayes And so this kind of Church-Order amongst you as you call it is worse than any Court or Assizes or Sessions or Courts And much I could say to it but you may read your Paper though you make a great Pretence of Liberty in it But I have not heard yet of any that like your Prescription that keep their First Love and Habitation And therefore as I said before the Way to come into Unity is to Condemn it all and give over your Spirit of Strife and Fightings and come into that which did first Convince you that by it you may be made true Members and so come into Meekness and Unity For I saw many Years before I went forth that such should rise in Opposition and so it is nothing to me because it is the same Spirit that hath risen formerly in many others and the Peaceable Truth and Gospel of Peace is over it and it is out of the Kingdom that stands in Peace And the efore what I write is for your Good and it had been well for Thee and You had you taken what I writ before patiently For I see the more you stir the more you will heap upon your own Heads and the further ye will put your selves except you come to Repentance and come down in the Humility for thee and you are too high and I Judge this Spirit as I said before and its Works with the Spirit and Light of Christ For in the Spirit and Light of Christ is my Unity that is atop of this Spirit and its Works and in that is my love to all for their everlasting good whether they will hear or forbear and my Life is out of your Spirit of Strife and over it for the Seed of Life reigns which had you kept in it you would have seen me the same now as I was in the beginning and being gone from that and gone into Doubts Jealousies and Questions and Evil Surmisings by which you are blinded so as you see not me as I was in the beginning as many others have done the same before you and when they are gone from the unlimited Spirit of Christ then they are afraid to be limited And therefore be advised and come to judge that Spirit lest your Bonds be made strong and you grow worse and worse and find not a Day of Repentance and the Lord give you up to Hardness of Heart and to your Hearts Lusts and that your Latter-End be not worse than your Beginning for it is the Universal Spirit and Life that your Spirits fight against which as I said before God will blast And so mind your End for it will manifest it self and has manifested it self to all you that be in the Light which I fay once again come unto and condemn this Spirit and its Works and your Separation that in it you may have Unity for it s out of the Paradise in the Transgression I thought to have written nothing to thee but to have sent thy Letter back unto thee again knowing what Spirit it came from which indeed was not worth Answering but only to the intent that thou and you might Repent and come into that which you were brought into in the beginning and in that you will see what a spirit is gotten up in you that by it you may judge it and not die and perish in your Gainsaying for the word which I writ to you will stand and you will find it and I shall be manifest to that of God in all though it be the Condemnation of them that walk not in it and my Unity is with them that walk in it and such need no outward Prescriptions that are written with the Spirit of God in one anothers Hearts to gather them withal who are written in Heaven and whose Names are written in the Book of Life before the Foundation of the World was Glory to God for Ever And I shall not much take notice of You if you continue in Strife except it be by publick Testimonies And the Jewes might have reflected against the Prophets who spoke the Word of the Lord often to them but they did not regard it neither would they be convinc'd who stood in their Own Wills And truly John I must needs tell thee Thou and You are gotten up into the same and I have been sorry for You and my Spirit has sometimes Travelled but I saw there was a perverse Spirit in thee when thou wert at Swarthmore though I dealt tenderly and plainly and faithfully with you and spoke the word of the Lord to You and told You that If You did not come to that which did first convince You and bring all others whom you had drawn into a separation with You to Condemn it the Blood of all them would be required at your Hands and that was and is the Word of Truth which will stand and is Sealed And I was grieved that the Glory of the Lord which had appeared in the North and his Name should be dishonoured by your cross thwarting Spirit and that You should bring an Evil Report upon it into the South of any difference but that was and is a true Word You are got up into a wrong Spirit that is Rough and Course which I feel and see that is not savoury nor gracious which had you retained your primitive Love and Light and Faith that works by Love and been in the quiet meek Spirit and
and managed the same by his own and Families Labour having no more nor less Land than at first nor yet is his outward Estate added to or diminished from since that time to the Value of Twenty-Five Rounds to this Day He Travels often alone without a Companion but at all times without any Attendant as his proper Servant and contented with the meanest of Meats and Drinks that the Houses wherein he usually Lodged afforded His Conversation lowly and meek And takes not upon him to give forth an Outward Directory for the Children of Light to walk by nor yet was ever known to write to any That if they were in the Light and Power of God they would come to him when he sent for them As to G. F. He was a poor Shoe-maker and of mean Parentage having very little if any Outward Estate at all that never as we can understand set up his Trade but work't Journey-works For his Meanness he neither was nor is Despised as we know of for that cannot savour of a Christian Spirit Since his first Coming forth we never have understood that he hath Laboured with his Hands at his Lawful Calling or any other but are well satisfied that at teast for many Years past whether in Bonds or at Liberty he hath not Since his first Coming forth he hath marryed Judge Fell's Widdow of Lancashire When he Travels 't is certainly known he hath had such Attendance which considering the Work he is on may be termed Great as well as when resident in some Places and not on Travel and of late hath Travelled with a Man termed George Fox's Man And as to Enjoyment of Things that are Lawful in the Creation that may be termed Necessary for the Ease of the Body and Pleasure of the Palate it is certainly known that G. F. hath often freely made use thereof when to be had in a manifold larger Degree than John Wilkinson so far as we can understand ever did Moreover G. F. by a Letter written unto William Rogers dated Swarthmore the 14th of the 11th Month 1676. thus writes I tell thee Them that thou calls Accused are not Right for had they been Right and in the Light and Power of God as at the first they would have come to me when I sent for them that all those Things which have made such a Noise might have been fairly ended in the North and not have troubled any in the South Those whom William Rogers termed Accused are John Wilkinson and John Story and some of the Matters whereof John Story was Accused were Acted in the South and so no reason to come to G. F. or any to have them Judged in the North. We now query Whether G. F. is not hereby manifested to be a Man of so High and Losty a Spirit as to endeavour to Assume unto himself a Power to Judge of all Cases amongst Friends even from North to South and that such who will not come unto him at Swarthmore in Lancashire for that end when he sends for them are not lyable to be Censured to be wrong and departed from the Light and Power of God Which being compared with what is written in a Marginal-Note in the ‖ Meaning the afore-said Manuscript Ninth Section gives us occasion to query Whether there be not just Cause to conclude or at least to be Jealous That G. F. looks upon himself Invested with Power to Judge all Causes amongst the Children of Light in this Day as Moses was amongst the Children of Israel in his Day Lofty Spirit of his Making a Jumble he brings forth nothing Convincingly to manifest the same So those Evil Qualifications fall to the Ground But yet G. F's Letter evidently shews that 't was his own State when he writ his afore-said Letter For had he not been of a High and Lofty Spirit he would not have reflected on them several times as not loving the Gospel of Peace because they came not to him especially since 't was not evident to their Consciences that he was free from having a Hand in the Occasion of that Strife touching which he would have had them come to him The End whereof was as we suppose that they might have submitted to his Sentence or Judgment therein Besides if he accounted them gone astray Why did he not act the Part of a Good Shepherd according to the Parable Leaving the Ninety Nine to seek that which was Lost and seek after them that so if such as he esteemed them to be they might be again Restored Had he so done it would have denoted more his Humility and Tenderness than his bare saying as in his Letter he doth Poor Men and People For my part I pitty you I am sorry for you And yet in the same Letter threatens them That their Failings Sins and Transgressions without their Repentance will he Recorded Which Threatning seems very unbecoming him not only because he hath never manifested his Readiness to Condemn his own Transgressions or to Assent to their Recording though they are very Notorious as in this Treatise is largely manifested but also because he seems to allow unto them Liberty to continue therein Else Why should he use in the said Letter such an Expression as this If Thou and You have such a Love to them you may keep them meaning their Sins as the fore-going Words plainly shew Which being but duly considered together with what hereafter follows of the other Parts of his Letter he hath made to use his own Language such a Jumble as in Reason we cannot take him if it be just to measure his Meaning by his Words heartily to desire their Repentance if so fallen as he took them to be nor yet that he was free from the Characters he assigns to John VVilkinson viz. An Angry Disquieted Froward Peevish Fretful Malicious Spirit when he brought forth his said Letter so full of Impertinencies invective Expressions undeservedly and remote from the Matter which in a Tender and Christian Spirit was his due to have kept unto that so far as he was Capable he might have removed Stumbling-Blocks out of their way and not have added a New Occasion of Offence as if he above all the rest of the Sons of Men was Priviledged to cast Stumbling-Blocks before God's People and yet not be accountable for such Unchristian-like Actions unto Christ our Lord and Master who said Wo unto him by whom Offences come As to the Second Particular viz. That G. F. might clear himself that he approves of no Force about Religion but the Force and Effect of the Word delivered we say That G. F. hath not writ one word in all his large Reply to satisfy Friends in that Particular which doubtless he would have done if he could have said any thing that might have cleared that Matter to the Satisfaction of such Friends as were wise in the Wisdom that 's from Above as well as what he hath so largely done for the Sakes of the Simple
unless they call in all their Papers which were chiefly given forth to Vindicate themselves as not departed from the Truth though they could not be subject to Impositions or Prescriptions of others G. F's Confusion doth not End here but is further Manifested in these Words viz. without Prescriptions of your Elders because 't was his own Counsel at the beginning of Mens Meetings to choose particular Persons for that service agreeable to which Advice the Elders he now strikes at were Chosen and yet in a scoffing manner reflects on the Words Chosen Men and on the departure of others when their Message is told and as if that very Order were worse than any Assizes Sessions and Courts As to the departure of others immediately after their Message is told we are perswaded was never proposed by those called Separate whil'st any coming thither had any Concern upon them as matter proper for the Meeting to take notice of nor yet to Exclude any Friends that were free to stay after they had delivered their Message For which Perswasion sufficient ground is given unto us from the writing of those called Separatists in the 11th Section of this ‖ Meaning the Second Part of the aforesaid Manuscript second Part in these words viz. We indeed Declare and Testify that our Sense and Meaning in what we proposed formerly to Reunite the Meetings was not to hinder any Friends of staying in the Meetings who behaved themselves Men of Peace as we Testified unto them in our Reply to their Answer to our Proposals but such as inclined to cause Offences with rash Censures and false Judgments which hath made and will make Divisions contrary to the Doctrine we have Learned If they had Objected against any thing in Love which we proposed and with respect to the Honour of Truth given us any Reason of its inconveniency if we could not have Convinced them of the Inconveniency thereof with Weightier Reasons we should readily have Consented unto them We now desire the impartial Reader seriously to Consider whether our Perswasion aforesaid is not on sufficient Ground And if so then 't is plain G. F. Reflects on his own Church-Order as his Term is as worse than any Courts Assizes or Sessions by which we may in his own Language to John Wilkinson say That he knows not what he would be at if his Words and Writings may be taken to be his Real meaning at all times but as to that we have no cause so to Conclude because we from this and other his Words Writings and Actions are sufficiently satisfied that he Concludes all wrong and gone from the Light and Spirit that are not at Unity with what he saith Acteth and bringeth forth though it be ever so Repugnant to Truth and grounded on ever so false a Report and Scandal And so though he talks of the Unlimited Spirit yet we are perswaded he would Limit every one to be subject to his Spirit and that if they have not Faith therein they are wrong and in a separate Spirit from the Light and Spirit by which they were first Convinc'd And on this Foot we do not question but he concludes every one Wrong that Conscientiously may ask him any Questions for their Information or Satisfaction touching him concluding that it doth spring from a Jealous Spirit that ought not to be satisfied The last thing we think meet to take notice of in his aforesaid Letter is this he Repeats John Wilkinson's Words thus And whereas thou speakest of a new Way and a new Form and carryed on with Church-Authority c. And then in part of his Answer thus saith for I know no new Way nor new Form carried on with Church-Authority as thou reproachfully sayest but hear thou hast manifested thy separate Spirit and Mind This manifests unto us that G. F. to use his own Language doth so Jumble that he knows not what he would be at for Men and Womens Meetings are and as we take it in his Sense accounted the Church and what they carry on is accounted to be carryed on by the Power whereof G. F. accounts them Heirs which is the Authority of the Church That now this Church have introduced New Forms or else G. F. hath introduced New Forms amongst them which they as a Church and under the Pretence of Authority do bring forth we are satisfied is as certainly known to G. F. as G. F. is known to any one And therefore his Denyal that he knows of no New Form carryed on with Church-Authority is taken by us to be an absolute Quibble Shift or Shuffle if not a plain down-right Falshood and Untruth Having thus observed on G. F's Letter as afore-said we desire the Reader seriously to weigh in the Light of Christ Jesus the Observations made thereon and then we doubt not but every such Reaer will have this Answer in his own Breast That what G. F. hath written by way of Reply to John Wilkinson could not be given forth from the Spirit of the Lord which cannot Lye but is rather the Fruit either of Ignorance Pride Scorn and Disdain in the best Sense 'T is a common and tude Saying Prids oft times goes before a Fall That G. F. is Fallen is manifestly proved in ‖ Note 'T is meant of the Manuscript first mentioned in the Preface to the First Part. this Treatise if being guilty of Error and Matters of Eyil Fact may be accounted sufficient Proof And that he hath been of so Proud a Spirit as to expect a sort of Reverence and Submission to him which the Truth could not own we doubt not May the Lord open his Eyes to behold his Errors and give him Repentance that so in a Sense thereof he may Confess to the Glory of God and Rejoycing of his Faithful and Antient Friends Though G. F. in his before-cited Answer unto John Wilkinson seems to take Notice of the Receipt but of One Letter yet so it was that John Wilkinson for the further clearing of his Conscience writ another Letter unto G. F. suddenly after whose Copy now followeth George Fox WIth the Truth of God in my Heart I have of late been greatly concerned in the Remembrance of thee in whom God appeared in the Beginning of the Day of Life and reached unto us with his Word who gave us Faith to believe and to receive thy Testimony thou gave of his Light in our Hearts which gathered us into Vnity with him and one with another and made us of the Church of the First-Born or of the First Fruits unto God continuing many Years in Love and Good-Will one to another But of late Dayes the Concord we once had seems much to be broken and many Instruments whom God hath wrought by and in great Love have laboured together but of late time have greatly Iarred And the Cause God hath manifested to me That it is not in Principles of Truth nor in Christ's Doctrine nor in any Practice which Truth in the Members
sake Unchangeable in their Affections to the Two persecuted Brethren John Wilkinson and John Story And many are more and more confirmed through a Certain Knowledge which is a better ground than Report that Persons professing Truth and such as are supposed to be had in great Estimation by those who appear against John Wilkinson and John Story do foment Lies and Slanders to the Dishonour of God Increase of Division and Hurt of the Souls of the Simple where the Lies and False Reports of Slanderous Tongues have place This may be termed Matter of great Reflection but in as much as 't is really True 't is proper enough to be spoken to thee because I firmly believe that thou art in a Capacity to be a Stop to such things as these by thy publick Exhortation to all such as are concerned in this Matter I remember thy Publick Exhortation hath been in a Paper read amongst Friends and not long since To cease Striving or to that Effect My Soul would rejoyce to hear more Papers of that Tenour read amongst Friends and not only so but also that such Publick Persons as seem in a more peculiar Manner to esteem of thee than some others may would shew themselves true Friends to the Truth by following that Counsel Such as are fit to be Exhorted learn more by Example than Precept or Exhortation And if any exhort to Cease Striving and should yet be found Movers of Strife or Encouragers of those that are such therein reach not to the Better Part neither answer God's Witness in the Conscience though it proceeds from an Elder Brother Dear George for so I call thee not in Flattery my Soul abominates that Spirit but because thou wast once so to me and that through a Sense of that Immortal Life which appeared in theee and as yet I dare not from Reports of any positively judge of thee otherwise but yet cannot but tell thee If I should appear so Uncharitable as to make Reports which come with the Face of no less if not much more Credit against thee than Reports against John Wilkinson and John Story do the Measure of my Faith concerning thee I must conclude That thou also art guilty of Accusing wrongfully And I know 't is much doubted that thy Example of Giving heed to Reports hath encouraged others to do the like and for want of discerning what is True and what is False do sometimes run into such Actions and Proceedings as are grand Marks of an Apostatized Spirit Neither dare I positively Judge of thee from Jealousies that have entred which I confess abundantly have ††Note The Reader may here take notice that G. F. in his afore-cited Letter of the 14th of the 11th Month 1676. being an Answer to one sent unto him by me hints at something Written by me to him and so seems to make Answer which as laid down in G. F.'s Letter runs thus And thou meaning my self sayest That there is a Spirit risen at this day that gives many occasion to be Jealous that thou meaning G. F. art lookt upon by some as that Prophet which Moses Testified of that God would raise up c. but who those are thou hast not mentioned and thou saiest Christ is that Prophet we know that is to be heard c. and he is the only Law-giver and no Outward Man c. To this G. F. thus Answers Then is not this Prophet to be in Man to give forth his Law which comes after Moses but I cannot deny that Prophet which Moses spoke of to be raised up for I know that it is he that is Opposed and his Law too by many talkers of him and the Light of his Glorious Gospel and the Order of it c. And what I am I am by the Grace and Love of God and will not deny the Prophet which came after Moses nor the Election before the World began though all turn into the Jealousies in which they were before they were convinced for I believe few of them that does oppose knows this Prophet that comes after Moses though they may speak of him in words of which Prophet I am not ashamed of Thus far G. F. in the said cited Letter which being compared with what he said in the Great Meeting-house in Bristol before several Hundreds in the 12th Month 1677. viz. I AM ELECT BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN I take to be sufficient ground for such a Jealousy mentioned in this Letter from thine aforesaid written unto me more than all that ever I heard I ever was of this mind To give little credit to Reports that tended to the Scandal of a Brother amongst other things this Jealousy enters me viz. That thou looks upon thy self that Man at least in whom the Son of God hath appeared to give forth his Law and to be Recorded as his Law under the dispensation of the Gospel even as Moses was the giverforth of the Law in that day If this be so and plainly manifested and confest to by thee and espoused by other Friends a separation will then plainly and above Board appear and many though not concerned in the late Differences yet being Men of unchangeable Spirits and so cannot in that respect esteem of thee otherwise than in the beginning will be concerned in this But if this be not so and be but so declared by thee the sense of many Friends is that then the many Differences lately arisen and somented amongst Friends may quickly cease and the primitive Love be restored wherein we thought our selves as far as ever I could perceive all Servants one to another and to the Truth but not Masters but until one of these do appear in plainness no doubt but Jealousies and Differences will more and more appear and increase especially if the Weakness of any though ever so few be such as to give occasions of Jealousy to others that their Faith stands in thee when our Faith ought to stand in none but the Power of God Thy Counsel hath often been to this purpose Follow an Evil Report till the original Reporter be found in order to the clearing of Truth that so the Guilty Person whether Reporter or he on whom the Report is might Condemn the same Now whosoever hath been the Reporter of a wrong thing against his Brother or Sister or hath refused to bring forth the Author of a Report that is reprovable is according to thy own Counsel Condemnable and as it was said by Nathan in another case to David who to Nathan confest he had Sinned Thou art the Man so if report as credible as any that ever I knew be true may it be said of thee Thou art the Man Thomas Lower hath lately shown me a Certificate as Evidence that John Story upon the coming of Persecutors to disturb a Meeting departed out of it and I perceive this is intended to render him a wrong Man whereupon Iacquainted Thomas Lower to this effect That if Report of thee
Moneths and Years past but as sparks of Fire have born in a Spirit of Patience yet now since it is evident that Ignorance Envy and Zeal without Knowledge Joyn Hands together to make War against Gods Servants and that thy Papers seem a Strength thereto therefore is the Zeal of the Lord of Hosts kindled to War in Righteousness against that Ungodly Insinuating Spirit that makes it its business to bespatter John Story and John Wilkinson whereby the Simple-hearted may be in danger to be turned out of the Way 'T is unnatural amongst the Heathen for the Father to pierce and Wound his Children Oh Friend Consider of that If thou art the Head and chief Promoter of this War against the Antient Brethren appear like a Man of War open-faced and if thou art not Remove the Jealousies that have entred the Breasts of many concerning thee which I know not how may be better done than by a plain and Candid Answer to this and the last Letter I writ thee which I was constrained to write to Clear my Conscience but thy not Answering my last Letter shews plainly to me that thou canst not in Truth so Answer as to keep thy self from coming under the just Censure of Truth for several Things which I therein say are reported concerning thee I know are True And if such things are Crimes in others How comes it to pass that the like are not Crimes when committed by thee And therefore since such things have been accounted by those whom thy Papers seem a Strength to as Crimes I cannot tell how thou canst shew thy self at Unity with them or they with thee till by thine or their Repentance and Condemnation ye become Reconciled For otherwise either they will shew themselves Wrong or thou wilt appear as if in thy own Sense Thou wert Exempted from the Stroke of that Justice which in the same Case is prescribed for others And truly Friend 't is much taken notice of that All Reasoning and All Wisdom is preach't against of late Who would but think that such Men esteem all sorts of Ignorance and Unreasonableness to be Vertue For my part I measure not so yet this measure I take That when I find such an one to use Wisdom and Reason to evidence a Good Cause I cannot but conclude Such an ones Cause is stark Nought when his best Argument to evidence it to be Good is to cry out against All Wisdom and All Reasoning Such an Argument I have not known to convince Men of Conscience and Wisdom though some such have or may be of whom Solomon thus speaks How long ye Simple Ones will ye love Simplicity and Fools hate Knowledge Turn ye at my Reproof One other Shift I have of late also observed as a Practice to manifest a Bad Cause to be Good viz. To get a Multitude of Hands to vilify Antient Brethren when not heard to speak for themselves as that Paper signed by Sixty-Six Persons at Ellis Hook's Chamber against John Wilkinson and Jonn Story doth evidence For 't is not Reasonable to conclude 'T was given forth with respect to any Offence but such as hath been committed since the Meeting at Drawel because they have been once Condemned already for the Things there treated on And therefore I cannot but say Here the Arm of Flesh and Egyptian Darkness meet together and the Lord hath a Controversy with those who are guilty hereof and the Blood of the Deceived thereby may be required at their Hands Oh! This Sin cryes aloud in the Ears of the Lord of Hosts thus to endeavour the Defamation of God's Servants under fair plausible Pretences of Love and Brokenness or such like when so much Gall and Bitterness of Spirit appears in the Bottom that Men of Understanding and Conscience cannot joyn thereto To be short Things are brought to that pass amongst us that those who contend for the Antient Principles of Truth and to walk according to the Measure of Grace received are now accounted Bad Spirits by such whom thy Papers seem a Strength to though the Cause thereof is nothing but Matters relating to their Consciences and not any thing of Evil Conversation By which 't is easily to be discerned that Darkness is over-shadowing again and the Glorious Light vailing And though 't is said by some That the Simple-honest-hearted Joyn in and so makes as if the rest were but Chaff that are in the Jealousies and the Reasonings and the Wisdom I have this Faith That there are Hundreds of God's Antient Flock who have retained their First Love are those they call the Chaff and many of those who are accounted the Wheat are such Chaff-Spirited People who had they not Outward Props to lean upon and Outward Persons to have an Eye unto and Outward Papers wherein they think their Cause is pleaded would quickly lose their Confidence being Built upon the Foundation that is Sandy and not on the Christ of God for were their Faith in Him their Faith would not stand in Man or Men And this with many with whom Right Reason takes place and the Wisdom from Above is known is plainly discerned Outward Forms and Precedents eyeing others under the Notion of the Brethren is so much discours't on of late by some ignorant Persons that 't is but too evident that the great Difference amongst Friends is about Outward Things and Ceremonies wherein some appear like People contending about the Shell and lose the Kirnel Which occasions me to tell thee That when I have heard thee Preach against Austin the Monk's bringing into England a Snap-Sack of Ceremonies which I have at many Meetings heard from thee I then little thought I should ever see the Day wherein thou shouldst appear a Countenancer of such who fall out with Antient Friends about Outward Orders and Prescriptions but rather would have appeared a Strength to such who contend that their Order for Gospel-Discipline ought to spring from Truth within themselves For that was the undoubted Sense of those Honourable Brethren who knew a Travel of Spirit for the Gathering of those who in the Beginning of this latter Day were gathered as a sort of First Fruits unto God though some others coming in at the Eleventh Hour of the Day and seeming as Countenanced by thee appear of another Language I have this further to add That if thou wouldst be acquitted in the Breasts of all Friends As a Man that art not a Countenancer of such Contentious-Spirited Men ' that appear as the Beginners and Carriers on of this War 't is needful for thee to satisfy Friends whether thou dost own all the Forty-Four Articles drawn up against John Wilkinson and John Story Thy Example of sending thy Questions abroad to be ask't of other Friends manifests that 't is reasonable in another Friend to expect an Answer from Thee But yet I have sufficient Cause to doubt thou wilt not be so plain as to Answer the Question because I cannot believe but that thy Understanding
is now so opened as to see that if thou own them thou wilt bring thy self under the Just Censure of Truth for endeavouring to make any Brother an Offender for that which is no Offence And if thou own them not then thou wilt shew thy self out of Unity with the great Opposers of John Wilkinson and John Story However if thou refusest to Answer 't will be Evidence enough that thou walkest not by that Golden Rule To do as thou wouldst be done by More-over Since thy Papers give Testimony against a Spirit Why dost thou not tell us in plain Words who they are in whom according to thy Sense it works For I much doubt that if thou art not the Secret Mover to all this Strife yet the want of the Right Application of some Expressions in thy Papers testifying against Bad Spirits c. is one great Cause of the Increase of Bad Spirits and of their Scribling And therefore be Plain-hearted For I do know that a dark imaginary Spirit is entred and under the Outward Profession of Truth and that also such a Spirit appears amongst those who espouse the Cause against John Wilkinson and John Story and the Fruits that are brought forth by them which evidence that they are of such a Spirit are as followeth viz. Judging the Lord's Servants out of the Truth for particular Matters laid to their Charge without hearing them speak for themselves or first sending their Judgment or Condemnation to them before the spreading thereof contrary to the known Practice of Friends in Truth gathering Friends together on purpose to entertain their Ears with Reports against John Wilkinson and John Story and refuse to bring forth the same to John Story 's Face before Friends equally to be Chosen though desired so to do both by John Story and others Magnifying Unity amongst Brethren and yet appear those who break the Unity reproving the Spirit of Strife and yet not only the Movers but Carryers on of Strife both by Word and Writing or to speak in thy Language Stribling to the Dishonour of God and the Cause of Truth And though such who espouse the Cause against John VVilkinson and John Story may suppose themselves capable to quote Thee for an Example or at least as an Approver of such Actions for none of them as I know of do so much as suppose that thy Words or Scribling tends to reprove them yet know this from me That there are many of God's Antient Flock who retain their First Love for Truth and every Honourable Labourer in the Vineyard dare not approve of this Late and New-found Doctrine publish't against All Reasoning and All VVisdom nor yet can suffer their Faith to stand in Thee or any Man And therefore if Thou or any Man bring forth a Dream or pretend a Night-Vision to run against Faithful Friends and on that foot Scrible against them under the Notion of Bad Spirits it hath no place with them because the Day hath discovered such Folly to Men of Conscience and indued with the Wisdom that 's from Above But yet I cannot say but that as it hath it may have place with some who are of this Number and Sort viz. Such whose Ignorance is so Great as to conclude it the Fruit of Vertue to avoyd All Reasoning and All VVisdom or whose Understandings are so vailed as to have an Eye to the Night-Visions or Dreams of Men more than to the Truth in themselves and on that foot eyeing the Scriblers of Papers more than the Matters therein contained as being convinced that they ought to shut out All VVisdom and All Reasoning a most dextrous Expedient where it takes place for Anti-christ so to exalt his Kingdom as that all manner of Iniquity and Deceit may quickly enter the Flock if once the Leader or Leaders of the People bring forth their own Imaginations under the Notion of Night-Visions and publish them for the VVord of the Lord and then no marvail if such conclude That every Friend is justly Condemned if they are not at Unity with the Paper given forth by the Sixty-Six Subscribers at Ellis Hooks's Chamber as if now 't were Good Doctrine or Exhortation to direct to the Spirit and Power that appeared in the Sixty-Six Subscribers when they brought forth their Unchristian like Papen instead of directing to the Measure of Grace in themselves One thing more lyes upon me to say unto thee That though amongst the Princes of the World there are such Politick Contrivances to carry on their Designs as to ingage such others therein who for Self-Advancement become of a Temporizing Spirit or for want of the Things of this World are ready to follow for the Loaves for being of a Mean Spirit are Hurried or Over-awed with Fear And so if their Designes succeed ill then 't is the Fruit either of Evil Counsel or ill Management but if well then they carry away the Glory thereof Yet it becomes not any one or many professing themselves Members of Christ's Body thus to do And now to Conclude I have this further to Query VVhether thou Conclude thy self no way obliged to bring thy VVritings to the Second Dayes Meeting in London to be approved of there before they be Printed If thou dost not Thou hast been wrong Represented if thou dost and yet think'st all other Friends are as 't is to be doubted thou dost for I have never heard that thy Book about VVomens Meeting was there approved or that all the Things therein contained will be stood by or owned by any one Friend in Truth then 't is an evident Token Thou wouldst Exalt thy self For What is that less than to conclude That the Infallible Spirit is limited to appear through thy Earthen Vessel only For if according to the Principle of Truth the Spirit is the Judge and that its pouring forth in our Day is upon many Sons and many Daughters Why then should not the Appearance of the Spirit through any Vessel have its free Passage as well as through Thine Or Why must Some VVritings given forth by the Spirit be brought to the Second Dayes Meeting to be approved and Others not But to return I have this further to say That if Thou or any are so imaginary as to conclude That all thy Writings and Books are given forth by the Infallible Spirit and that as such they ought to be made use of a part of which I am satisfyed have so been thereby to obtain Proselytes against John Story and John VVilkinson it appears to me as if thy Notorious Erring from the Infallible Spirit in writing some things contained in thy Book of VVomens-Meetings hath been permitted to be as an Evidence Recorded against all such who ignorantly look upon thee so to be as afore-said And therefore it becomes thee to be Humbled before the Lord and to Acknowledge thy Errors therein I am not without a Sense what Entertainment my plain Dealing will have amongst many if thou suffer it to be read or spread
F. against William Rogers and vilified him to one not related to the people called Quakers taking no care first to speak with him to know what he could say for himself neither hath G. F. cleared himself from being the Author of that scandalous Paper before cited subscribed S. H. though by a Letter written to him the 11th of the 11th Mo. 1678 by Thomas Gouldney William Ford and William Rogers they manifested their jealousie that he was not unacquainted with the Person that writ it and so desired him to advise who it was if he knew saying Truth sought no Corners Thus far the citation out of the aforesaid Manuscript 'T is now worthy the Reader 's notice that G. F. hath written nothing thereto in Answer to this day but hath given a further Occasion of jealousie that he was the very Dictator thereof because it appears that he writ unto John Story with relation to me very much after the same manner and in the same Language mentioned in part of the before cited Letter subscribed S. H. That the Reader 's judgment may be free I think it necessary to insert the very words written to John Story touching me which are as followeth ANd also I do hear that a Book or Narrative is made of our Meeting which we had at Bristol when I was there last and spread up and down Westmoreland Cumberland Yorkshire and the South amongst prejudiced People which was utterly contrary to the Agreement then that no Papers should go forth without the knowledge or consent of both Parties which Agreement was taken down in writing as there at Bristol may be seen and therefore this Practise to the contrary is below Common Moral Men and not for the Society of civil People short of Christianity c. This their Work bespeaks their Spirit A Truce-breaking Spirit a Covenant-breaking Spirit and not to be Credited c. short of Christianity and below some Priests to spread such things behind our Backs in a secret underly way which doth clearly manifest it is not the Spirit of Christ nor Honesty amongst men Thus far G. F. to John Story At the penning of this unrighteous Reproach I cannot but call to remembrance that there have been of G. F's Party who have propesied Withering in Basquet and Store upon me and all that joyn unto that Spirit as the term was 't is well if G. F. hath not spread his ungodly Reproaches against me undeservedly that so thereby my Name and Reputation may be defam'd as a Proper Expedient to bring a withering on my Outward Estate I confess 't is a very likely Expedient if my Commerce were only amongst such as are ready to give Credit to G. F's Scandalous Reproach before cited written unto Joan Hily concerning me in one Letter which seems to be on the same foot as his writing unto John Story as aforesaid is Were his Character concerning me and those whom he accounts concerned in spreading the Narrative made mention of justly applied to me I should then blame no man refusing on that foot to commerce or trade with me And if so be his unjust reproach should have such an Influence as that all should refuse Commerce with me what might become of Me my Wife and Children whom 't is well known I have hitherto comfortably maintained by my Industry as a Merchant and been able to be assisting unto others in my generation May the God of heaven abate the pride of G. F's lofty Spirit that he may cease to make Lyes and Scandalous Reproaches as well as a False Certificate of which more anon his Refuge and Defence For I affirm in the presence of the Almighty God they are Sins whereof he is guilty and in this treatise effectually demonstrated if the Papers spread abroad in his Name and annexed thereto are to be credited as coming with approbation from him which to me is past question being handed by those that are great Espousers of his Actions and Opposers of John VVilkinson and John Story And now forasmuch as I have occasion to know from the words of G. F's Mouth that he accounted me Blame-worthy or Reproveable for securing a part of my Estate though for my Wife and Children out of the Hands of the Spoilers which at length gave me occasion to prove G. F. guilty in a thing of the same Nature which he condemned as hereafter will appear I therefore think needful in order thereto to cite a part of the 15th Section of the 2d part of the before-cited Manuscript which now follows The Reader may now take notice that since the time William Rogers hath been so much concerned in the matters relating to this Controversie Persecution arose at the Meeting whereto he belongs in Glocester-shire viz. Olvestone and to prevent the Informers who raised the Persecution for no other end but to Enrich themselves as is notoriously manifested from making a Prey upon all his moveable Goods in that Place he secured a part thereof which lay without Doors having unsecured Within and Without to the value of about three hundred pounds which lay Subject to the Spoilers at the place of his Residence that so none should suffer either for him or his family On this occasion Reports suddenly spread abroad that William Rogers had now Manifested himself of what Spirit he was of and was so improved by his Enemies under the Name of Friends that he would not suffer a Groat and that others were fined for him if not paid Fines for him which was very false for that he affirms the Fines laid on him exceed ninety if not an hundred pounds and that a part thereof is levyed on his Goods without Doors and never returned but sold away to an Enemy to Friends This we thought Necessary to insert because we do not doubt but that the Cause of Truth hath suffered through the Belief of Lying Reports relating to him for when a Mare of twelve pounds value was distrained from him 't was suddenly Reported that he caused his man to buy her again which was utterly false for that the Mare was sold by the Distrainer to an Enemy to Friends and Truth that kept the Mare for his own Use On this Occasion we think meet to recite a Paper given forth by G. F. touching securing of Worldly Estate in time of Persecution together with an Answer thereto by William Rogers London 4th Mon. 1678. Friends ALL you that do make away or over your Estates to the World or your Servant for fear of the Spoilers in time of Persecution for the sake of Christ and his Gospel and the Worship of God First do not you Distrust and Despair of God Almighty his Protecting and Delivering you with his Almighty Power Secondly Are you sensible that the Earth is the Lord's and the Fulness thereof is the Lord's and that he giveth the Encrease and that how that he may Try you whether your Minds are in the Creatures or with him the Creator And whether is it not
guilty of so much Evil as G. F. hath unjustly charged me with rendring me intending that which never was my Meaning nor yet the Import of my Words as plainly appears by his concluding that all my Queries are Charges though as before is hinted I would not have any think I asked one Question groundless and that I accounted his Paper of Queries which he terms an Epistle to be in itself a good Exhortation And since he writes that he gave away something that descended to him by Birth-Right I think it needful on this Occasion to tell him that it hath been credibly Reported that John Story hath been judged by him or at least by some of the Party with him for giving unto his Mother the Rent of a small Estate that his Kinsman gave him saying John Story should have kept the Estate in his own Hands or at least got a Tenant that would not have paid Tithes that so a Testimony might have been kept up against Tythes Which occasions me to query of G.F. if he was concerned in this matter whether he might not by that Rule be worthy censure for giving away something that descended to him by Birth-Right and whether it might not as well have been his duty to have kept the same to have born a Testimony in the Case of Tythes as well as John Story 's Duty so to have done In part of my twelfth Query 't is thus written Whether or no a suffering for the Testimony of such a False Prophet as Solomon Eccles hath proved himself to be as is manifest by his Prophesying John Story 's Death within a year and since expired can be called a suffering for the Gospel of Christ To the twelfth Query a part of G. F's Answer is on this wise Here is another of thy deceitful Queries but where the Deceit lies he doth not inform me neither do I understand wherein he placeth the Deceit especially since G. F. in his particular Answer thereto doth not say he was a true Prophet but yet signifies thus much in his favour That he would not have him made an Offender for words since he acknowledged them and this appears from G. F's own Words on this Occasion viz. And it is not right to make a man an Offender for Words if he acknowledge them as I perceive Solomon Eccles hath done I now recommend the aforesaid Query and Answer to the Consiration of every Impartial Reader doubting not but all such will find George Fox detectable of another plain downright Lye since he hath with respect to all my Queries thus said as before is cited I know them to be all False and Mavicious Charges For a further Manifestation of that Spirit which led G. F. in his Reply to me I think it needful to take further notice of those his words viz. And it is not right to make a man an Offender for words if he acknowledge them Doubtless G. F. intended this as a Reproof to me in terming Solomon Eccles a False Prophet What in and out babling is this when he durst not in Plain Down-Right termes say He was no False Prophet nor yet say that he was on this Occasion made an Offender for a Word by me For if we say It is not right to make a man an Offender for words if he acknowledge them the Meaning thereof in common sense and according to a Christian Spirit is this that if a Man's Words express not his Meaning and he so declares when he is charged therewith Then if he say that was not my Meaning 't is not right to insist on a Man's Words in such a Case to make him an Offender but what 's this to Solomon Eccles who after he had written and given forth his Prophesie to continue as that which he would stand by did not pretend that he had not exprest himself according to his Meaning and therefore the words of G. F. as aforesaid seem but a deceitful Contrivance to cover a False Prophet Moreover 't is observable that G. F. doth not say that Solomon Eccles hath acknowledged that his VVords were VVrong 'T is also to be noted that the Words so spoken by G.F. in Relation to this False Prophet Solomon Eccles seem to be grounded on the Words spoken by the Prophet Isaiah 29.21 That make a Man an Offender for a Word which by the Scope of the said Chapter seems to relate unto the True Prophets and hath been so expounded and were not intended as a Defence for such False Prophets as Solomon Eccles hath proved himself to be who thereby had offended many Brethren especially in the City of Bristol where he publish'd his False Prophesie who therefore on that Occasion have had something against him which occasions me to query of G. F. whether he did not approve of this False Prophet's going beyond the Sea in the work of the Ministry and if so Whether he hath done well to encourage such a False Prophet in such a Service until such time that he had known that he had been reconciled unto his Brethren whom he had offended But if G. F. shall deny that he did Encourage him I then say for 't is best to be plain that such a Denial is like to have little Place with me whilst G. F. appears as of late he hath not only because G. F. seems to publish Lyes as it were by Heaps but also because 't is very improbable that he who had so great an Esteem for G. F. as to many is known he had should go in such a Service without his Approbation However such a Denial may reasonably occasion an Answer to this Query Whether G. F. hath been as industrious to bar the door against Solomon Eccles. in offering his Gift as he and others have been against John Story and John VVilkinson's offering their Gift though never proved to be False Prophets as ever we could understand One thing more is Remarkable on this Occasion from G. F. his Words before cited viz. 'T is not Right to make a Man an Offender for VVords when he acknowledgeth them Hence I take Occasion to query Whether since James Naylor came to a Sight and Sense of his Fall and through true Repentance and open Confession before the Lord and his People in many Parts of the Nation found acceptance with the Lord and his People I say whether 't was not a wrong Spirit that led George Fox to acquaint John Wilkinson and John Story in a Letter written Anno 1676. That they would become as hardned and as bad as the old Opposers amongst whom he reckons up James Naylor not having so much Charity as therewith also to acknowledge his being through true Repentance and Contrition of Heart restored 'T is well if the Reason thereof be not because James Naylor could never be brought by George Fox as Report saith to condemn these Words or words to this Effect spoken by him I AM BUT A FIGURE OF ANOTHER I now come to take notice of what G.F.
saith to this my Query whether thou G. F. did not advise Nathaniel Crips to buy his Tythes c. if thou deny it I will undertake to prove it or bring it under the hand of Nathaniel Crips that thou so did To this a Part of G. F's Answer is on this wise But for him to turn this and say I advised him to buy his Tythes he doth me a great deal of Wrong and so he might have spared to impeach me Wrongfully And in another Part of his Answer thus In the Morning I was walking in his Chamber I saw this Spirit made some like Devils that they mattered not what they said to blemish the Reputation of them that wished them well both Temporally and Spiritually From the Word Temporally 't is rational to suppose that G. F. for the temporal Good of Nathaniel Crips advised him to buy his Tythes even as he denies not that he advised Mary Penington for the Good of her and her Children whereof I have already treated to secure her Estate from the Spoilers but here methinks the Reader may be apt to query What should be the Reason that G. F. should seem to deny this and not his advising Mary Penington to secure her Estate since here also he might have as well crept out under the Notion that Friends in some Cases when they are weak are to be left as he did in the Case of Mary Penington To this I say G. F. can best answer however the Reader shall have my thoughts which are these I think that Isaac and Mary Penington had not of late so honourable and good an Esteem for John Story as Formerly though they may for G. F. even as Nathaniel Crips hath of late been disaffected with G. F's Actions in some things though not with John Story 's so far as I know Now if G. F. should have denied the Matter relating to Mary Penington it might have occasioned the loss of his Interest in her and her Husband and with them in many more because they know it to be Truth and if he could have gotten Twenty Eight Persons to have signed a False Certificate that he did not so advise 't would have had no more Credit with them than the signing of the False Certificate hereafter following by Twenty Eight hands whose End therein I take to be to evidence in his favour that what I and many more saw with our Eyes was Vntrue hath place with me and such many others which is none at all but G. F. having already in great Measure as I suppose if not altogether lost his Interest in the heart of Nathaniel Crips he peradventure in that Case scruples not to deny the Truth and for ought I know 't is on this Confidence that he can obtain a False Certificate under the hands of Twenty Eight Persons that he did not so which though it might the more confirm Nathaniel Crips that G. F. is wrong yet many others might be the more confident that his Opposers are Wrong and since the Import of his Answer implies a Denial that he advised Nathaniel Crips to buy his Tythes I think it needful here to cite not only Nathaniel Crips his Certificate and Testimony in that Case but also the Testimony of Robert Arch in Relation to G. F's Advice to him also touching the Buying of his Tythe THis is to certifie all whom it may concern that G. F. being several Years past at my house and as he and I were speaking together concerning Payment of Tythes I told him that in the Parish where I dwell there is both Priest and Impropriator and that both of them claimed Tythes of the Inhabitants and amongst our Discourse that we had thereabout G. F. then advised me to purchase the Tythes of them this he spake in Love to me and I took it no Otherwise but if he will prosecute others for such things whereof he is more guilty himself he will much lose his honour and hardly ever recover it again this I thought fit and indeed bound to certifie whereunto I subscribe my Name The 23d of the 11th Mo. 1677. Nathaniel Crips GEorge Fox being at my house as I remember it was that time that he came into our Country to set up the manthly and quarterly Meetings and there being several Writings or Epistles read of George 's which were as Instructions to Friends to be read at the quarterly Meetings in which there was written as I remember that such Friends that did pay Tythe should be exhorted or admonished which I took notice of and when I had a convenient Opportunity as George was in my Garden I told him there was two or three Priests and two Impropriators did claim Tythe of me or of my Land but unto the Priests I had never paid any and as for the Impropriators I did not much contend with them but did suffer them to take the Tythe said G. F. to me canst not thou buy it buy it said he I answered him that I did look upon it to be no odds or difference between paying of it and buying of it So that what George did then say to me I took it that it was in tenderness to me and so I believe to this day Burton-Hill the 18th of the 11th Mo. 1677. Robert Arch. It now remains that I say something of G. F's Departure out of the Meeting at Broad Mead within the City of Bristol in time of Persecution since a part of his words in Answer thereto are on this wise Oh William I am sorry thou shouldst affirm this Untruth and father it upon the sight of thine own Eye which I say is utterly False But I do remember many years ago I was sitting in a Meeting at Bristol when another was speaking and some Officers came up and took him away and when he was gone I kept the Meeting and none meddled with me nor as much as askt for my name then that I heard or could understand by any other and I believe there are many in Bristol that have not let in Prejudice and Enmity against me that will witness against this false Charge and for thee to term this a distrustful and despairing Spirit c. this is not well This is the substance of what G. F. saith in his Answer to me as a Vindication of himself but forasmuch as before I received his Answer he was offended at my discourse touching this matter amongst Friends which by the way was occasioned through his Reflections on John Story as a Fleer in time of Persecution which never yet was convincingly proved unto me and therefore for the clearing himself the best he could gave forth a Paper I think it needful to add that also that so the Reader may know the most that G. F. can say for himself but first the Reader may observe that though G. F. saith for thee to term this a distrustful and despairing Spirit yet his so saying is groundless my own words were these which some may term
they said Thou art more than a thousand of us and yet he doth not manifest his dislike of their so saying and after this he bad some who are known to have been antient grave Friends to walk by because many people were walking there The Third thing I take notice of is this that G. F. was for having a good Meeting after the Souldiers were gone saying if the Souldiers should come before that time we might happen to get a good Meeting afterward and though the Young Man said in Answer that the Souldiers were Neighbours and civil People and would hardly meddle which was an Encouragement to George Fox to stand in his Testimony yet he kept still walking in the Fields The Fourth thing I observe is this that one of the Young Men went from him about two Bow shots under the Hedge waving his Hat to G. F. this I may not term a Boy on top of a Hill waving his Hat to Friends spoken of by G. F. by way of Reflection on John Story though denied by John Story and by his Answers intended only so far as I understand to shew Friends the way to the Meeting but a Boy Vnder a Hedge waving his Hat to George Fox and as may reasonably be supposed to keep him from Meeting because G. F. saith As I turned back to go round about the Orchard there was a place I could see over the Hedge the Souldiers were all over the Orchard truly I did not go in among them I shall now leave it to the Impartial Reader to consider whether if it were so that any Friends when they met without doors did for Conveniency set a Boy on top of a Hill to wave his Hat to signifie the VVay Friends might pass unto a good Meeting be not more justifiable than to have a Boy under a Hedge to wave his Hat to keep G. F. from Meeting The Fifth thing I take notice of is this That was a horrid Lye that I hid my self in a Ditch for my own part I cannot imagine wherein from G. F's own words the horrid Lye doth consist more than in saying a Ditch when it ought to have been said a Bank cast up which in Probability is G. F's mistake for 't is well known that in many places where Banks are cast up in the Country there is also a Ditch however 't is observable that his words cannot reasonably be taken to import a Denial that he hid himself behind a Bank The Sixth thing I take notice of is this That the Meeting broke up about three of the Clock and that he went not into the house where the Meeting was but to another two Bowshots off and stayed to refresh himself and yet rode twenty miles that Night which is not very common for G. F. to do as ever I could understand after a Meeting broke up so late The Seventh thing I take notice of is this that though as to that Meeting at Ringwood if Report be true there are many notorious Circumstances to shew him a Fleer in time of Persecution yet I observe he makes mention but of one particular thing that he saith is a Lye or False and that is before signified which I take to be no more than saying in a Ditch instead of behind a Bank which to me is a Demonstration that he could not in Truth deny other things reported of him on this Occasion which puts me in mind thus farther to say that if instead of telling that they swept the Barn c. he had named the Hour when he came in the Meeting as well as when the Meeting broke up and that he did not advise the Friends to gather together and then be gone from them until the Souldiers were gone that so he might come and stay a little while amongst them and then be gone twenty miles that night to be sure to be far enough out of their reach it might have made his Testimony look with a better face especially if he had had so much Patience as to have gone into the house after Meeting to visit the Distressed Family the VVoman as he saith being dead To conclude my Observations herein I thus say That I firmly believe 't would have tended more to G. F's Credit plainly to have confest that at Times and Seasons he hath contrived to save himself and keep out of the reach of Persecutors than after he hath so done to cover the matter by such sort of Discourses as these now manifested are wherein his Weakness and Confusion doth so appear as cannot but be obvious to every Impartial and Judicious Reader And now forasmuch as John Ward and twenty seven more have given forth a certificate intending thereby to clear G.F. I thought it needful to add that also that so nothing that may be pretended would have favoured his Cause might be omitted by me the said Certificate now follows A Testimony of some Friends of Bristol in Answer to William Roger's False Charging of George Fox for Fleeing in time of Persecution and particularly at the Meeting-House in Broad Mead in the same City WHereas William Rogers in his Paper of Queries to George Fox which some of us have already given our Testimony against hath charged the said George Fox to be one of the greatest Fleers in time of Persecution of any that he knew professing the Truth and accounted by others a faithful Friend and for Confirmation thereof hath brought an Instance at a Meeting here at Bristol at which George Fox was present about fifteen years since at which Meeting he saith The Persecutors coming up one pair of Stairs while George Fox was speaking the said George Fox as some may term it in a distrustful Spirit did step down and went out at a back pair of Stairs to which he saith his Eyes with many more were witnesses As to which we have this to say who were generally all of us at all or most part of the Meetings which George Fox was at here that we never knew or can remember that ever any Persecutors did come up the Stairs whilst George Fox was speaking so as to occasion the ceasing his Testimony on that account as William Rogers would infinuate but this may be put amongst the rest of his False Calumnies and Charges And we further testifie that whereas there was two pair of Stairs one of which William Rogers calls a Back-pair that both pair of Stairs were common for Friends to come up and down at and that George Fox was known to come up the same Stairs to that Meeting And this Testimony we have in our hearts for George Fox as a man Remote in Spirit and Example from any such Practice as Fleeing in time of Persecution though charged therewith by Apostates and Bad Spirits and we have cause to believe that he hath held up his Testimony in Faithfulness both in Doing and in Suffering on Truths Account being confirmed herein by his large Travels Sufferings and Imprisonments in many Goals in which
we never knew that he hath flinched but hath endured Patiently as also the known Care that hath been upon him for the Preserving and Encouraging of all by Word and Pattern to stand in time of Persecution And this we thought fit to insert as persons concerned for the Vindication of our dear Friend George Fox's Innocency in this Case which we have done according to the best of our Knowledge and Remembrance who never saw any just Occasion for such a Charge as William Rogers hath so wickedly aspersed him with John Ware and twenty seven Persons more I now come to make some Observations on the above Certificate they render me False Charging and seem concerned to Vindicate G. F's Innocency in this Case yet they have done it but at a very poor rate much like the perjured Informers that on the late Act have appeared against Friends for first they say It is a False Charge which is a positive Testimony against me wherein they undertake to prove such a Negative which is impossible to be proved by them unless they had been Eye witnesses of what George Fox did in every Meeting in time of Persecution at the Meeting-house in Broad-Mead that I also was present at but that by their Certificate it seems they dare not say for when they came to disprove me by particular Evidence they then thus said WE WERE GENERALLY ALL OF US AT ALL OR MOST OF THE MEETINGS AT WHICH GEORGE FOX WAS HERE and that we never knew or can remember that ever any Persecutors came up the Stairs while George Fox was speaking I appeal now to every Impartial Understanding Reader whether my charging of him for stepping down on a sudden and hastning out of the Meeting must be wrong because they never knew another matter of fact relating to others or whether it doth follow that the Persecutors did not come up the Stairs at no such Meeting because they don't know or remember the Matter when not assigned to any Meeting wherein they dare say that they were present They say that I have charged George Fox to be one of the greatest Fleers in time of Persecution of any that I know professing the Truth and accounted by others a Faithful Friend Herein they as I take it and as I am persuaded all Impartial Readers will falsly charge me my Words were these And if Report be true this is but very little of what might at large be manifested to prove him one of the greatest Fleers c. in time of Persecution that ever I knew professing the Truth and esteemed by others a Faithful Friend 3dly They say that I for Confirmation thereof brought an Instance of a Meeting here at Brastol which George Fox was present at about 15 years since c. this also cannot be taken to be a true Charge from my words not only be cause I did not positively charge him to be one of the greatest Fleers in time of Persecution c. but also because I did not signifie the Time at which the Meeting was held though they say 't was about 15 years since and so it appears that they are detected of several Lies by comparing their Testimony with what I have written This occasions me to observe that they do not say they never knew or could remember that he stept down and hastned out of the Meeting at a Back-pair of Stairs which is the matter wherewith I charge him with the sight of mine own Eyes and others also on this Occasion And this also I know that his so Departure was a very considerable time before the Meeting broke up and were it not so that these False Witness-Bearers were conscious to themselves that about fifteen years since George Fox so did as I said my Eyes were witness of what reason should they have for limiting my Charge to that time I shall now leave it to the Consciences of all Impartial Readers to consider whether John Ware and the other twenty seven Persons do not justly deserve the title of False-Witness-Bearers and not only so but since George Fox in his Answer to me hath signified on this Occasion that he believes there are many in Bristol that will witness against this False Charge it be not rational to suppose that the aforesaid John VVare and the other twenty seven Subscribers have been by him betrayed to affirm whereof they know not and yet notwithstanding their Testimony is lame and not sufficient to serve his turn not only for the Reasons aforesaid but also because they do not so much as affirm that the Meeting held about fifteen years since was in the time of Persecution and that he staid therein until the Meeting ended One thing more is Observable G. F. informs me some said My Paper was not worth answering to which I said Doubtless these words came from some of George Fox 's Party and since George Fox hath acted contrary to their sense and written six Sheets of Paper in Answer to one of mine what 's become of their Vnity now and whether this shews not that they are in Confusion amongst themselves especially since G. F. in his Answer saith the less I do take notice of them because I know them to be * By George Fox's Rule those who matter not what they say c. are exercised by this Spirit that made some like Devils witness his before-cited words spoken as he was walking in Nathaniel Crips his Chamber which occasions me to query from his words all False and Malicious Charges Whether by his own Rule he hath not manifested himself to be exercised by the same Spirit for had he been a man that had taken Care to have affirmed nothing but the truth he would not have been the Publisher as well as Author of so many Lyes and Falshoods whereof to his shame he is detected all False Malicious Charges whenas he hath not only written six Sheets of Paper for the Copy delivered me contains so many by way of Answer which is a taking notice thereof at a large rate but also it appears that many of them which by his general Expression he accounts False Charges are not in his particular Answers denied to be true but rather an owning thereof is plainly implied from his words as is already manifested this I take to be one sign or Token that the Word of the Lord by his Servant John Wilkinson is fulfilling I now come to take notice that G. F. accuseth me that I threatned the Constables at their Perils not to meddle with any thing of mine within doors c. This I say is a False Charge my words on that Occasion were to this purpose the Door is open the Goods in the house are mine they might go in and there was enough but then I also told them That if they did meddle c. before I spoke with the Justice I should lay that Injustice at their Doors because of right I ought to be first heard before my Goods ought to be
my self at Bristol Anno 1677. and in divers other Papers in the giving forth whereof I have been concerned since that day wherein it hath evidently appeared that such as cannot be subject to some Outward Orders or Prescriptions given forth by George Fox or some others assuming Authority so to do are judged and condemned for refusing submission without true regard to a Consciencious Scruple as if the exaltation of Christ's Government in the heart consisted in Conformity to other mens lines made ready to our hands a lively Instance hereof may be easily discerned by those who shall peruse the forty four Articles of Accusation drawn up against John Wilkinson and John Story and proceedings in Relation thereunto both before and after the four dayes Meeting at Drawel especially if compared with the Paper given forth from Ellis Hook's Chamber dated the 12th of the 4th Month 1677 subscribed by Charles Marshal and 65 persons more and the Answers thereunto all which are recorded in the Manuscript first made mention of in the Preface to the 1st Part of the Christian Quaker ready for perusal of any Friend desiring to view the same In the sense of these things can I truly say that my heart is even melted before the Lord that Iniquity should grow to so high a pitch in any that are Professors of Truth as to write at so wicked and ungodly a rate as John Blaykling hath done and yet bring forth nothing that doth in truth prove me worthy of the least of his evil Reflections which now leads me to manifest unto the Reader what are the particular Matters of Fact that he chargeth me with since 't is reasonable that that should have been by him laid down as evidence that I am worthy of his general and gross Reflections In order hereunto I say I have diligently perused his Postscript several times over on purpose to notifie every particular Matter of Fact which in his or any ones sense I did suppose might be accounted Evil and do not find more than these two particulars following here cited word for word out of John Blaykling's Postscript The First is on this wise And as to that particular Reflection cast upon him which William Rogers if his Interrogation be an Affirmation of the Matter would ground an Accusation upon viz. Art not thou the man that hast taken Liberty to stay almost a Quarter of a year from Meeting and did not John Blaykling by name manifest his Burthen and Exercise of spirit on thine and the truths behalf for thy so doing and having thus repeated my words he proceeds and saith I answer if William Rogers affirm that I had a burthen on my Spirit with respect to George Fox as out of God's Counsel in that matter or as departing from the Truth I do testifie that he affirms an Untruth and that it doth arise in him from a Spirit of Envy watching for Evil against the Innocent whom God justifies On this I observe that John Blaykling cannot lay all his general and gross Reflections at my Door on that account because he himself doth not take it to be a Charge unless my Interogation be an affirmation which he doth not there affirm it to be neither did I ever intend it so yet 't is rational to conclude from the aforesaid words of John Blaykling that I had ground so to query and therefore I now appeal unto God's Witness in all Consciences whether John Blaykling be not found contradicting himself since in his Postscript he thus saith Is this the Shift you are put to that he meaning John Wilkinson should not be found a False Prophet to charge a Lye upon me to defame the Innocent withal meaning as may reasonably be taken with respect to what I query as aforesaid with relation to him and George Fox which to me is an Evidence that the Word of the Lord by John Wilkinson is fulfilling since it appears as aforesaid that my Query was not groundless and that George Fox accounts it a False Charge And though John Blaykling proceeds to query doth not the Lord confound you in all your undertakings yet there appears to me no Ground for his so querying but rather that his and G. F's Confusion to their Shame is abundantly manifested from what may be visible to every Impartial Understanding Reader that will be at the pains to compare all written by George Fox John Blaykling and my self on this Occasion without other proofs The Second particular matter of Fact laid by John Blaykling to my Charge is on this wise And whereas William Rogers asks if George Fox would not have accounted this in another the Fruit of a Careless Slothful Libertine or Dark Spirit that was either departed or departing from the Truth c implicitly thereby charging him with it To which John Blaykling thus saith Might not William Rogers have applied this at home who knows in his Conscience what a Libertine Loose and Dark Spirit departing from his Subjection to the Truth he hath given way to and hath taken a Liberty to himself to make away his visible Estate or at least a considerable part of it to avoid suffering thereby On this I observe that as to this particular with respect to securing a part of my Estate Jo. Blaykling cannot lay all his prophane and wicked Charges against me at my door on that account without contradiction to his large Testimony for George Fox as a man that is spotless and still keeping his Integrity because George Fox denies not as before is manifested that he advised Mary the Wife of Isaac Penington to secure her or their Estate from the hands of the Spoilers My last Observation is on John Blaykling's beginning of his Postscript by which it appears to me that one of his ends was to appear thus publick as a witness on behalf of George Fox to clear all Aspersions that my self and others had cast on him as afore mentioned and indeed he hath done it excellently well if testifying that G. F. is spotless without entring into the Merit of Matters of Fact be a sufficient proof but if not his Testimony and Certificate is for the most part of no Credit However it occasions me to note what Irreligious Confidence attends him thus to appear as a Witness to clear G. F. of many things he knows nothing of for John Blaykling was not with George Fox at Bristol and with Nathaniel Crips when Occasion of Nathaniel Crips his Charge touching G. F 's advising him to buy his Tythes was taken and yet John Blaykling's Certificate as by the Scope thereof doth plainly appear to me is to clear G.F. from all Aspersions whatsoever or from whomsoever To be plain such Attempts are a Shame and Scandal to Religion and are an Abhorrency to men of common and moral Honesty but 't is to be doubted that since that day wherein John Blaykling Robert Barrow and two others gave it under their hands in a Letter to Friends at Bristol That they by
the Authority of God's power have an Vnderstanding given them of God to act and determine in Affairs appertaining to the Gospel and its Order John Blaykling hath been so puft up with spiritual Pride as that the Lord hath suffered his Wisdom to be turned into Folly and his Zeal into Envy whereby he now is as well as heretofore hath been in another Case relating to John Story so dexterous in giving forth a False Certificate And now to conclude I recommend the whole to the Righteous Witness of God in all Consciences nothing doubting but that the Lord will yet more and more arise to oppose that prophane ungodly Spirit which thus strives against his Heritage making Lyes False Certificates Vnjust Slanders and Reproaches as the chief Instruments to take away the Good Name and Reputation of such as cannot bow to the Will of Man nor leave the way of the Spirit of Life wherein they have begun in Expectation to be made perfect through Conformity to Outward Ordinances knowing this that those who have begun in the Spirit cannot be made perfect by the Flesh William Rogers We shall now conclude with a particular Matter relating to G. F. and J. Story George Fox writes unto John Story on this wise John Story I have seen a paper that is scattered up and down in Yorkshire and Westmoreland as I have heard and also that thou shouldst shew it to a Friend at Kendal now if thou hadst had so much Humanity before thou spreadst this Paper abroad thou mightst have sent to me to have known the Truth of it or them that spread it also this practice is not Common Morality nor Civil Honesty amongst Men which I do declare that thou either hast forged or hast some to forge for thee those horrid Lyes for I never thought nor heard of those horrid Lyes before except that of Drunkards and Swearers and it is a VVork of Darkness from a Malicious Spirit The matter thus denied by George Fox is what is contained in a Certificate given under the hand of Henry Sweeting of Hartford which hereafter follows And forasmuch as George Fox hath charged John Story That he either hath forged or hath some to forge them for him meaning many things contained in Henry Sweeting's Certificate and thereupon expresly writes unto John Story in these words Thou must bring forth the Authors and the Informer with his Town and County else they will lie on thine own Head We thought it just and reasonable that what is done in persuance thereof might be here cited that so every Reader 's Judgment may be free and the Reader left to savour in this matter for himself and so we shall leave all after purusal of the following Testimonies to consider whether 't is so rational to conclude John Story a Forger in this Case as George Fox for he that will adventure to add to another man's words and render them as another man's words materially altering the sense which is accounted plain Forgery and not only so but write many Lyes when he may be detected both of the one and the other from the sight of his own Lines and compared with what he pretends to answer even as before is manifested to have been done by G. F. 't is much to be doubted that he might sooner adventure to do as he is charged by Henry Sweeting c. when the Matters charged are not to be proved under his hand for then he hath not only the Advantage to deny the same if he please but also to have recourse to John Blaykling and others for a False Certificate as in another case already treated on in this Section is manifested Here now follows not only the Testimony of Henry Sweeting but of several others to the same purpose GEorge Fox did say that to the Separate Meeting of John Story there was VVhores and Rogues Drunkards and Swearers there came a couple to be married and one stood up and said Mr. Story I take such a one to be my Wife and the other stood up and said Mr. Story I take such a one to be my Husband and they went afterwards to drink and eat some Cake and Cheese and said Sir I will drink to thee and doft his Hat the other said Thank you Sir and doft his Hat and where this was done G. Fox he sent for the woman of the House to know the Truth of it he asked whether it was true and the woman said it was true it grieved her heart to see it Also he said that there was fallen from John Story thirty at one time of the honestest of them These Words were spoken by George Fox in my house in Hartford and if G. F. will come to Tryal I shall then prove the substance of what is above written by other Testimonies that he spake it in this Town in other places Witness Henry Sweeting Ann Sweeting Hartford 29th of the 12th Month 1678. The cause of this my writing is chiefly because I have met with a Paper wherein my name with others is that came from G. F. which is a very abusive Paper although he speaks so much of John Story 's sending and spreading a Paper and not sending to him first G. F. has done it and must not be corrected for this his great failing I shall leave it to the Lord who correcteth and judgeth in Righteousness who is God that sees and knows all Thus much following in Vindication of Truth I coming to Henry Sweeting 's house in Hartford there was George Fox and the time I was there I heard him speak the greatest part of what is in a little Paper written by Henry Sweeting with his name to the same where I spoke to G.F. then asked him Wherefore he related all those miscarriages to which he would not answer me And also I asked him about the Woman High Sheriff that he spoke so much of in our publick Meeting and this he referred me to Thomas Robertson this I here set down that these things may bring him to remember the Truth of what he spoke then so if he did speak a rable of Lyes of people behind their Backs be it upon his own Head and he must be careful in his Travel the time to come to speak nothing but the Truth for indeed I must say I never heard so much spoken by no man that did profess himself to be a minister of the Gospel as if he had surrounded the Countries to get up all the miscarriages and failings done and committed in time past which indeed I told him then at Henry Sweetings That it grieved my heart to hear him relate such things and so I left him at Henry Sweetings where I found him in his Carriage going on hushing any one that had any thing to speak besides himself This in Love from him that is his Friend Edward Perkin Friend G. Fox THou hast sent a Paper to judge me concerning what I heard thee speak about John Story thou deniest it
Conformity to other Mens Lines without Faith is contrary to the Apostles Doctrine 3 d. Part p. 53. See Church-Government Conscience Matters purely Conscientious are Cognizable according to the Form of Church Government held forth by Robert Barclay by the Church and their Sentence obligatory on Believers 3 d. Part p. 53 54. His Reasons produced are refuted 3 d. Part p. 54 to 69. Contents or Matters discours'd of in an Answer to Robert Barclay's Book of Government 3 d. Part p. 19 to 23. Convinced I must stay until Convinced proved to be sound Language though reflected on by Robert Barclay 3 d. Part p. 42 43. Corah 3 d. Part p. 9 11 47. Cross of Christ consists in denying Self and not in acting across to all Societies c. 2 d. Part p. 35 36. Customs of the World In what Sense denyed 2 d. Part p. 34. D. DIfferences touching outward Property how in our Sense they ought to be decided between Brother and Brother 3 d. Part p. 41. Dis-union amongst Friends How it appears that 't is so 1 st Part p. 4 5. Doctrines delivered in the Beginning 3 d. Part p. 49 50. Doctrines reputed by Robert Barclay the Bond by which we became Center'd in one Body 3 d. Part p. 54. His Assertion and Reasons for it Refuted 3 d. Part p. 54 to 59. E EDward Burroughs A suitable Testimony of his at the latter End of the Preface shewing That we ought to know the Spirit of God to be the Ground of all our Actions in our selves A Parable given forth by Edward Burroughs touching the Scattered in Israel Anno 1661. shewing That there were unlearned Dogs not acquainted with the Shepherd's manner of Gathering the Sheep but having something of the Wolfe's Nature would not be governed by their Master and that there were others well acquainted with the Masters manner of Gathering the Sheep and the Fruit of both Which may be termed a proper Distinction through a Parable of the Fierce and Ignorant in the best Sense Zealots of our Times as well as of the Gentle and Prudent 1 st Part p. 78 to 83. Observations thereon p. 83 84 85. F FAith Different Faiths and Perswasions in some Things no Indication of Dis-union in the Spirit 3 d. Part p. 74 75. See Believers Faith taken in a two-fold Sense the one is unto Salvation the other not without a further Growth 2 d. Part p. 63 to 67. G GEorge Fox Here now follows divers Things relating to George Fox contained in the First Part. George Fox reputed a Setter-forth of Forms of Church-Government to be like unto Moses an Establisher of Men and Womens-Meetings in a Separation each from other The said Meetings are called the Church p. 9. A different Sense either touching George Fox the General-Meeting or Womens-Meetings is taken to be the Original Manifestation of Variance amongst Friends p. 61 to 67. An Enquiry made What is the Bait spread before George Fox to concern himself against such as cannot own that his Directions should be urged with Severity which is no less than an Enforcing p. 92. An Answer to that Enquiry wherein some Part of the Occasion and Mischiefs amongst Friends is discovered 1st Part p. 92 to 96. Here now follows divers things relating to George Fox contained in the Fourth Part. The Introduction to the Fourth Part shews the Occasion of writing that Part chiefly relating to George Fox p. 3 to 7. Seven Questions proposed to Iohn Wilkinson and Sixteen to Iohn Story by Order as was affirmed of G. F. together with the Substance of their Answers thereto p. 7. to p. 14. Observations on the said Queries and Answers shew that the Informer to George Fox against John Wilkinson and John Story would have had his End by their Answer Yea which doubtless was to render them guilty of Evil Principles and Practices and yet such an Answer to several of the Questions might be Justifyed And in particular the Answer to the Second to John Wilkinson and the Nineth to John Story unless we ought to practise on a Religious Score Things imposed in the Will of Man and that 't is reprovable to exhort to keep good Order c. p. 14 15 16. An Objection cited in Favour of George Fox and such Brethren to whom Obedience by some is reputed to be due c. together with Answer thereto manifesting that Obedience to the Spirit is due but not to other Mens Lines whil'st not by the Spirit convinced thereof No Ground to believe that Christ intended One of his Disciples as an Head over the Rest after his Departure p. 16 to p. 25. A Slighting George Fox's Orders with respect to Church-Government accounted by some a Slighting of the Cause of God p. 26. See p. 7 to p. 16 and p. 25 to p. 36. and then consider whether 't is not Rational to suppose that the drawing up of Forty-Four Articles against John Wilkinson and John Story and Proceedings relating to them were not by George Fox's Approbation and Permission And that whatever was pretended to be John Wilkinson's and John Story 's Failing's yet that nothing would give Satisfaction but Submission to George Fox Marks to know some Ministring Persons who have been of party with George Fox p. 33 34. A Letter written by George Fox to John Wilkinson signifying that Iohn Wilkinson will be as bad as Muggleton c. if he gives not over his Work and Separation p. 41 42. J. Wilkinson's Answer thereto desiring George Fox to clear himself That he approves of no Force about Religion but the Force and Effect of the Word delivered p. 42 43 44. A Letter returned in Answer by George Fox to John Wilkinson signifying that Iohn Wilkinson is separated from that Power that first Convinced him and that if not he would have been at Unity with him as at first p. 45 46. And that if Iohn Wilkinson had loved the Gospel of Peace he would have come to him p. 51. But yet he tells him That if he loves his Sin he may keep it p. 52 and that He thought to have written to him saying His Letter was not worth Answering and yet hath written Answer p. 59. Observations on George Fox's said Letter to John Wilkinson beginning p. 61. George Fox accuseth John Wilkinson as a Tythe-payer either by himself directly or conniving at others paying for him but proves it not A Testimony under John Wilkinson's Hand Against Tythes is cited 4th Part p. 9. George Fox accuseth John Wilkinson to be an Angry Disquieted Froward Peevish Fretful Malicious High Lofty Spirit and of his making a Jumble but brings forth nothing convincingly to manifest the same p. 63 64 65 66. On this Occasion a Character of George Fox and Iohn Wilkinson is noted from whence there is a Reason to suppose that George Fox would have All Causes of Differences amongst Friends even from North to South come before him to be Judged when it pleaseth him or else the Refusers may incur his Censure of
seems to Glory in suffering their goods to be taken away and to speak in their Language account it the Fruit of a Dark Spirit to endeavour to save any though but from the thirst of Informers occasioning Persecution meerly to enrich themselves we cannot but Query Whether it be not more Christian like so to act according to ones plain Perswasion than to contend so much for offering upall yet after taken away to use divers means to get it again sometimes by Law open-faced as in the case of Appeals and sometimes by private and Secret Solicitations wherein not only Time and Breath is Spent but as is credibly reported the Purse opened too as some of our Opposers have done We shall now return and consider what in probability may be Objected touching the sufficiency of Gods Grace c. as in the next following Section SECT VI. On the occasion of an Objection raised touching the sufficiency of Gods Grace Unity is treated on from the words of Paul to the Corinths that they should all speak one thing Touching the Word Independency occasioned by a Publick Preacher That leaving Friends to the Grace Light and Spirit of God is not the way to lead into Rantism Objection T Is true may some say this Doctrine of exalting the sufficiency of Gods Grace squares with the Principle of Truth as Preach't amongst us in the Beginning and it had then and still hath an Answer in our Consciences but now several of those who have been Instruments to gather us increase in the Knowledge of the Mind of God and they now tell us that they doubt if there be no care taken to preserve an Vnity amongst the Professors of Truth Friends may be scattered and broken and run into a Seperation c. for did not Paul exhort the Corinthians that they should all speak one thing 1 Cor. 1. 10. Answ To this we answer that when Paul came to understand that the Church at Corinth were some for Paul and some for Apollo and some for Cephas and some for Christ there was great need for him on that Occasion to exhort them to speak one thing lest their Faith and Hope in the Gospel might come utterly to be destroyed did those who cry against such whom we account Faithful Friends as dark Spirits and plead so much for Unity and to speak one thing exhort those who were apt to pin their Faiths on an Apollo a Paul or a Cephas to be for Christ we should think it good Exhortation therein to speak one thing and that which would cast a great Line of Reflection on those Ignorant Zealots who of late Days have much exhorted us to have an Eye to the Brethren in which 't is evident to us their meaning is to some particular Brethren whilest others ancient and honourable are dispised by them Besides we cannot on this occasion but observe that the same Paul doth sufficiently evidence his dislike of any Plea for Unity save that of the Spirit in the Bond of Peace And though he exhorts to Unity Ephes 4.3 yet Vers 7. he saith But unto every one of us is given Grace according to the measure of the Gift of Christ which clearly evidences to our Consciences that Paul never intended to magnify any * 1 Cor. 12.7 1 Cor. 15.10 Unity amongst Brethren but that which might be the natural product of this gift of Grace or manifestation of the Spirit as given to every one according to measure to profit withal and whereby they might in the language and according to the example of the Apostle Paul say each unto other By the Grace of God I am what I am We are yet sensible that another Objection may still arise Obj. What then are you for an Independency Yes verily we are for an Independency that is to say * Some may wonder why we raise this Objection but doubtless 't will come to the view of one and not a mean one too who manifested his doubt that some of us intended an Independency not to depend on the Counsel of one man nor yet to depend on the counsel of General Quarterly or Monthly Meetings but as there is sufficiency in the Grace of God that is given unto us to profit withal so to have a Dependency on that Grace to teach didirect and instruct in all things relating to the In ward man of the heart knowing that it s against the nature of that Principle in which we have believed to have a dependency on any thing that is Outward lest it prove unto us like the Reed of Egypt and Arm of Flesh that cannot save but yet we are not against appointed Meetings for the Outward services of Truth for that hath been and is our practice knowing that there may be a service therein as occasion offers provided all in such Meetings may be kept in humility as servants each to other and the Truth not exercising Lordship over the Conscience which is Gods Prerogative nor yet exalting themselves as if thereby they were entred into that Possession which can never be taken from them Object We are now sensible that some may be ready thus to say we can scarsely believe that any man of weight and under the name of one that may be accounted by any a faithfull Quaker would give occasion for such a discourse as this occasioned on the word Independency for that many may be apt to say 't is the Language of an Hypocrite that hath outward Power to uphold it because some who are accounted seperate from it are called Independents Ans This occasions us to signifie that * Note his Name is omitted for the reason in the Preface an eminent Person writing to Friends in Wiltshire by way of Reply to an Answer they gave to the Paper from Ellis Hooks his Chamber signed by Charles Marshall and sixty five more against two ancient and honourable Friends in truth viz. John Story and John Wilkinson c. thus repeats part of the words of the Friends of Wiltshire And what if we in this County or any Friends elsewhere should say to any of you of London or other Cities or Countries as to our Publick Concerns in the managment of our Affairs * Note Though 't is recited meddle not with us yet the very following words are thus unless concerned but if the Word of the Lord be really with any of you we are ready to hear it which being left out by the replyer we appeal to the righteous Judge whether he hath not therein acted notoriously unjust since there could not have been the least Pretence for him to have written as he hath on that Subject had the whole Sentence been repeated Meddle not with us if we should so say unto you we cannot think that this is of the nature of Imposition having no Penalty annexed thereunto neither do we understand theirs to be any otherwise These words being thus repeated the Replyer proceeds and gives this Answer To this I