the sacrament bothe to be a signe and the thing it selfe when it is duely ministred after the institution of Christ London You maye se howe he goeth about the bushe as he hath done before with my lordes of the clergie and dare not vtter his mynde playnly Ryche Shewe vs what maner of presence you alowe in the sacrament Phil. Yf it shal please you my lorde of London to geue my leaue to procede orderly therunto and to let me declare my mynde wtout interruption I wil throughly open my mynde therin L. Shand. I pray you my lorde let him speake his mynde Phil. My lordes that at the first I haue not playnly declared my iudgement vnto you is this bicause I can not speake herof without the daunger of my lyfe Ryche Ther is none of vs here that seketh thy lyfe or meane to take any auauntage of that thou shalt speake Phil. Although I mistrust not your honourable lordshippes that be here of the temporaltie yet here is one that fytteth against me appointing to my lorde of London that wil laye it to my charge euen to the death Notwithstandyng seyng your honours do require me to declare my mynde of the presence of Christ in the sacrament that ye maye perceyue that I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ neither do mayntayne any opinion without probable and sufficient autoritie of the scripture I wil shewe frankly my mynde without al colour what so euer shal ensewe vnto me therfore so that my lorde of London wyll not let me to vtter my mynde Ryche My lorde permit hym to saye what he can seyng he is willyng to shewe his mynde London I am cōtent my lordes let him saye what he can I wil heare him Phil. That which I do entend to speake vnto you right honourable lordes I do protest here first before God his Angels that I speake it not neither of vain-glorie neither of singularitie neither of wilful stubburnes but truly vpō a good conscience groūded on goddes worde against that which I dare not do for feare of dampnaciō which wil folowe that is done contrary to knowledge Neither do I disagre to the procedinges of this realme in religion for that I loue not the Quene whō I loue frō the bottō of my hart but because I ought to loue feare God in his worde more then man in his lawes Though I stande as I seme to do in this consideration and for none other By what thinges the cleargie deceaueth the hole realme as God I cal to witnesse There be two thinges principally by the which the cleargie at this daye dothe deceyue the hole realme That is the sacrament of the body and bloud of Christ and the name of the catholike churche the which bothe they do vsurpe hauing in dede none of them bothe And as touching their sacrament whych they terme of the Altar I saye nowe as I sayd in the conuocacion house that it is not the sacrament of Christ neither in the same is ther any maner of Christes presence Wherfore they deceyue the Quenes maiestie and you of the nobilitie of this realme in making you to beleue that to be a sacrament which is none and cause you to commit manifest idolatrie inworshippyng that for God which ys no God And in testimony of thys to be true besydes manifest profe which I am hable to make to the Quenes maiestie and to al you of her nobilitie I wil yelde my lyfe The which to do yf yt were not vpō a sure grounde yt were to my vtter dāpnacion Note And where they take on them the name of the catholike churche wherby they blynde many folkes eyes they ar nothyng so callyng you frō the true religion which was reueled taught in kyng Edwardes tyme vnto vayne supersticiō And this I wil saye for the trial hereof that yf they can proue them selues to be the catholyke churche as they shal neuer be hable to do I wil neuer be against their doynges but reuoke al that I haue sayd And I shal desyre you my lordes to be meane for me to the Quenes maiestie that I maye be brought to the iust trial herof Yea I wil not refuse to stande agaynst tenne of the best of them in this realme And yf they be hable to proue that otherwyse then I haue sayd eyther by writyng or by reasonyng with good lawful authoritie I wil here promise to recant what so euer I haue sayd and to consent to them in al pointes And in the declaration of these thinges more at large which nowe I wryte in somme the bishop of London eftsones would haue interrupt me but the lordes procured me lybertie to make out my tale to the great grefe of my lorde bishop of London as it appeared by his dumpes he was in London It hath ben tolde me before that you loue to make a long tale Ryche All heretikes do boast of the spirite of God And euery one would haue a churche by him self as Iohn of Kent and the Anabaptistes I had my selfe Iohn of Kent a seuen nyght in my house after the wrytte was out for her to be burnt where my lorde of Cantorburye and bishop Rydley resorted almost daylye vnto her but she was so hyghe in the spirite that they could do nothyng with hir for al their lernyng But she went wilfullye vnto the fier was burnt so do you nowe Phil. As for Iohn of Kent she was a vayne woman I knewe her wel and an heretike in dede wel worthy to be burnt because she stode against one of the manifest artikles of our fayth contrarye to the scripture And suche vayne spirites be sone knowen from the true spirite of God and his churche for that the same abydeth within the lymittes of Goddes worde and wyll not go out of the same neither stubburnly mayntayne any thing contrarye to the worde as I haue Goddes worde throughly on my syde to shewe for that I stande in London I praye you howe wil you ioyne me these two scriptures together Pater maior me est Et pater ego vnum sumus I must interprete the same bycause my lordes here vnderstande no latyne that is to saye the father is greater thē I and I and the father are one But I crie you mercie my lordes I haue mispoken in sayng you vnderstande no latyne for the most parte of you vnderstande latyne as wel as I. But I spake in cōsideraciō of my lorde Shandois and maister Brydges hys brother whom I take to be no great latine men Now shew you your connyng and ioyne these twayne scriptures by the worde yf you can Phil. Yes that I can ryght well For we must vnderstand that in Christ there be two natures the diuinitie and humanitie And in respecte of his humanitie it is spoken of Christ the father is greater then I. But in respect of his deitie he sayd agayne the father and I be one London But what scripture haue you
vpper hande And in the Apocalyps you may se it was prophesied that the true church should be dryuen into corners and into wyldernes and suffer great persecution Morgan A are you seen in the Apocalyps ther is many strange thinges phil If I tell you the trueth which you are not hable to refel beleue it and daly not out so earnest maters Me thinke you are liker a scoffer in a play Morgan ryghtly painted out than a reasonable doctor to instruct a man you are bare arced and daunse naked in a net and yet you se not your owne nakednes Morgan What I pray you be not so quicke with me Let vs talke a lytle more coldly together phil I will talke with you as myldly as you can desyre if you wil speake learnedly and charytably But yf you goo about with tauntes to delude the truthe I will not hyde it from you Morgan Why will you not submit your iudgement to the learned men of this realme phil Bycause I see they can bring no good ground wher vpon I may with a good conscience settle my faythe more suerly then on that which I am now grounded by Goddes manifest word Morgan No do that is maruel that so many learned men should be deceaued phil It is no maruel by S. Paule for he sayth that not many wyse neither many learned after the world be called to the knowlage of the gospel Morgan Haue you thē alone the spirit of God and not we phil I say not that I alone haue the spirit of God but as many as abide in the true faith of Christ haue the spirit of God aswell as I. Morgan Howe know you that you haue the spirit of God Phil. By the fayth of Christ which is in me Morgan A by faith do you so I wene it be the spirit of the butterye which your felowes haue had that haue ben burned before you who were dronke the night before they went to theyr death I wene went dronken vnto it Phil. It appeareth by your communicacion that you are better acquainted with the spirit of the buttrye then with the spirite of God wherfore I must nowe tell the thou paynted wall and hypocryte in the name of the lyuing Lord whose truth I haue told the that God shal rayne fyer and brymstone vpon suche scorners of his word and blasphemers of his people as thou art Morgan What you rage now Phil. Thy folishe blasphemies haue compelled the spirite of God which is in me to speake that which I haue said vnto the thou enemy of all righteousnes Morgan Why do you iudge me so phil By thyne owne wicked wordes I iudge of the thou blind and blasphemous doctor for as it is written by thy wordes thou shalt be iustified and by thy wordes thou shalt be condempned I haue spoken on Goddes behalfe now haue I done with the. Morgan Why then I tell the Philpot that thou arte an heretyke and shalt be burnt for thy heresy afterwards goo to hell fyer phil I tell the thou hypocryte that I passe not this for thy fyer and fagots nether I thanke God my lord stand in feare of the same my faythe in christ shall ouercom them But the hell fyer which thou thretnest to me is thy porcyon and is prepared for thee oneles thou spedely repent and for such hypocrites as thou art Morgan What you speake vpō wyne thou hast typled well to day by lykelyhode phil So fayd the cursed generation to the Apostles being replenished with the holy gost and speaking the wonderous workes of God they sayd they were dronke whē they had nothing els to say as thou doest nowe Morgan Why I am hable to answere the ywis I trowe phil So it semeth with blasphemies lyes Morgan Nay euen with learning say what thou canst philpot That appeared well at my disputacion in the conuocation house where thou tokest vpon thee to answere those few argumentes I was permitted to make and yet wast not hable to answere one but in thyne answeres dyddest fomble and wonder that the hole house was ashamed of thee And thy fynall conclusion of all thyne answers was that thou couldest answere me yf I were in the scoles at Oxforde Morgan What dyd I so thou belyest me Phil. I do not belye the the boke of the report of the disputation beareth record therto and all that were present can tel yf they list thou saydest so And I tel thee playne thou arte not hable to answer the spirite of truthe which speaketh in me for the defence of Christes true religion I am hable by the myght ther of to dryue thee rounde about this galarie before me And yf it would please the Quenes maiestie and her counsell to heare thee me I would make thee for shame shrynke behynde the dore Morgan Yea would you so lo phil Thou hast the spirite of illusion sophisirie which is not hable to counteruayle the spirite of truthe Thou arte but an Asse in the true vnderstanding of thinges pertaynyng vnto God I cal the asse not in respecte of malice but in that thou kickest agaynst the truthe art voyde of all godly vnderstandyng not hable to answere to that thou bragest in Morgan Why haue I not answered thee in al thinges thou hast sayd vnto me I take them to recorde Phil. Aske of my felow whether I be a these Cosins Hearke he maketh vs al theues phil You knowe the phrase of that Prouerbe that like wil holde with lyke And I am sure you wil not iudge with me against him speake I neuer so true And in this sense I speake it the strongest answer that he hath made agaynst me is that you wil burne me Morgan Why we do not burne you it is the temporal mē that burne you and not we phil Thus you would as Pylate dyd washe your hādes of al your wicked doynges But I praye you inuocate seculare brachium Cal vpon the secular power to be executioners of your vnryghteous iudgementes And haue you not a rytle in your lawe De haeruicis comburendis for to burne heretikes Harpes I haue heard you both a good while reason together and I neuer heard so stoute an heretike as you are maister Philpot. Cosins Neither I in al my lyfe Phil. You are not hable to proue me an heretike by one iot of Goddes worde Harpes You haue the spirite of arrogācye I wil reason with you no more And so he was departing and M. Cosins also And with that the bishop and Christoforson came in agayne sayd London M. D. howe dothe this man and your agree Morg. My lorde I do aske him where his churche was fyfty yeares ago London Are you not halfe agreed as one man sayd ones to tway partes of whom the one was equally disagreyng from the other Crhisto My lorde it is but foly to reason with him any further your lordeship shal but lose tyme for he is incurable London Wel then let his keper haue hym
father he be one And none in the spirite of God can deuide Christ frō the substaunce of God the father onles a natural sonne may be of an other substaūce than his father which nature dothe abhorre Who can abyde the eternall generacion of the sonne of God to be denied synce it is written of him his generacion who shal be able to declare Esa 53. Is ther any true christiā hart that grudged not at suche faythles blasphemours Can the eye eare tongue or the other senses of the body be cōtent to heare their creatour blasphemed not repyned should not the mouth declare the zeale of his maker by spittyng on him that depraueth his diuine maiestie which was is and shal be God for euer Apoc. 3. Yf God as it is mencioned in the Apocalipse wil spew ypocrites out of his mouthe suche as he neither hotte nor colde in his worde why maye not than a man of God spitte on hym that is worsse than an hipocrite enemye to the godhead manifested in the blessed Trinitie which wil in no wyse be persuaded to the cōtrarie Iohan. 2. Yf Christ with a whippe droue out the of temple suche as were prophaners therof ought not the seruaūt of God by some lyke outwarde significacion reproue the villanie of those as go about to take awaye the glorie of him that was the buylder of the tēple Yf there were as muche zeale in men of the truth as there is talkatiue knowlege they would neuer be offended with that which is done in the reproche and cōdemnacion of frowarde vngodlye men whome nothing can please but singularities and diuisions from the churche of Christ which ought to be the mother and mystres of vs al to leade vs Gala. 4. into al true knowledge of the worde of God and not ymagine by ignoraūce takyng the word of God dayly an other Gospel and an other Christ as euery sect dothe separating thē selues frō Christes spouse which is the same that is the accōplishement of truthe Ephe. 1. hitherto neuer knewe O insatiable curiositie O arrogaunt selfe loue the original of al these heresies O pestilent canker of thyne owne saluacion O Arrian the ryght inheritour to Lucifer Esay 14. that would exalte his seate and be lyke to the hyghest whose fal shal be lyke where the synne is equal Yf God dyd hyghly allowe the minister of Ephesus Apoca. 2. for that he could in no wise abyde such as said they were Apostles and were not indede howe maye any laye vncharitablenes vnto me which for the loue of my swete Christ do abhorre al phantastical Arrians in suche sorte as al men ought to do that loue the sonne of God vnfaynedly Yf Moses be cōmended by the scriptures Act. 8. for strykyng an Egiptian that dyd iniurie to one of the people of God howe may he iustly be blamed which dyd spit at him that doth suche iniurie and sacrilege to the sonne of God as to plucke him from his eternal and propre godhead was there euer creature so vnkynde was there euer man so temerarious to stryue against the glory of his glorifier was there euer heretike so bolde and impudent as the Arrian is that durst take frō the sōne of God the glorie which he had with the father frō the beginning Yf Christ be the beginning Apoca. 1. ending of all thing as he testifyeth him self to S. Iohn how may he be but a creature like vnto others who may dissemble such blasphemy that hath any sparke of the spirite of God who may heare with patience the right wayes of the Lorde peruerted by these deuilishe holi Arriās hold his peace A lyuely fayth is not dōme but is alwayes ready to resist the gainesayers as Dauid sayth I haue beleued therfore I haue spoken Speake than you that haue tonges to prayse confesse against these Arriās exalte your voice lyke a trompet that the simple people maye beware of their Pharisaical venome and be not deceaued as now many are vnwares of simplicitie Suffre them not to passe by you vnpointed at yea yf they be so stonte that they will not ceasse to speake against God our saueour and Christ as they are al newe baptised enemies therto refraine not to spit at suche inordidate swyne as are not ashamed to tread vnder their fete the precious godhead of our saueour Iesus Christ Our God is a gelous God and requireth vs to be zelous in his cause Yf we can not abyde our owne name to be euel spoken of without great indignacion shall we be quiet to heare the name of our God defaced and not declare any signe of wrath against thē It is writtē be angry and synne not A man than maye shewe tokens of angre in a cause which he ought to defende without breache of charitie The prophet Dauid sayeth shal I not hate them O Lorde that hate thee Psal 138. vpon thyne ennemyes shall I not be wrathful I wil hate them with a perfect hatred they are become myne enemyes Aaron bycause he was not more zelous in goddes cause whan he perceiued the people bent to ydolatry entred not into the lande of promyse God loueth not luke warme souidiars in the batel of fayth but suche as be earnest and violent shall inherite his kyngdome Therfore S. Paule biddeth vs to be feruent in spirit you that are to colde in these dayes of the cōntet of the gospel aswel against these arch heretiks as others wherof there be at these daies stered vp by the Deuill an infinite swarme to the ouerthrow of the gospell if it were possible I exhort you not to iudge that euil which God highlie commedeth But rather to pray that God will geue you the lyke zeale to withstande the enemies of the gospel neyther to haue any maner of felowship with these Antichristes whom the deuil hathe shitten out in these dayes to defyle the Gospel which go aboute to teache you any other doctrine The gospel pure in K. Edw. dayes than you haue receyued in kyng Edwardes dayes in the whiche praysed be God al the synceritie of the gospel was reuealed according to the pure vse of the primatiue church and as it is at this present of the trew catholike church allowed through the worlde The spirite of God the holye Goost the thirde persone in Trinitie whom these wicked Arrians do elude and mocke hath taught the church according to Christes promise al truth and shal we nowe receyue an other vaine spirite whome the holy fathers neuer knewe Trye the spirites of mē by goddes worde and by the interpretacion of the primatiue churche who had promyse of Christ to receyue by the cōming of the holy goost the true vnderstanding of al that he had spokē and taught after the which we haue ben truely taught to beleue three persones in one deitie God the father frō whom and God the sonne by whom God the holy Goost in whō al
booke and read the place The which after I had read I sayd it made nothing against me but against the Arriās and other heretiks against whom Ireneus wrote prouīg that they weare not to be credityd because they did teache and folowe after straunge doctrine in Europa that the chefe churche of the same was founded by Peter and Paule and had to his tyme continued by faythfull succession of the faythfull Bishops in preachyng the true Gospel as they had receyued it of the Apostles and nothyng lyfe to the late sprong heretikes c. Wherby he cōcludeth against thē that they were not to be heard neyther to be credited The which thing yf you my lordes be able to proue nowe of the churche of Rome then had you as good autoritie against me in my cause nowe as Ireneus had against those heretikes But the church of Rome hath swarued frō that truthe and simplicitie of the Gospell which it maintained in Ireneus tyme and was vncorrupted frō that which it is nowe Wherfore your lordships can not iustly applie the autoritie of Ireneus to the churche of Rome nowe which is so manifestlye corrupted from the primatiue Churche London So wil you say stil it maketh nothing for the purpose what so euer autoritie we bring and wil neuer be satisfyed Phil. My lorde when I do by iust reason proue that the autorities which be brought against me do not make to the purpose as I haue already proued I trust you wil receyue myne answere worcest It is to be proued most manifestly by al auncient wryters that the sea of Rome hath alwayes folowed the truthe and neuer was deceyued vntil of late certayne heretikes had defaced the same Phil. Let that be proued I haue done worcest Nay you are of suche arrogācie singularitie vayne glorie that you wil not se it be it neuer so wel proued Phil. Ha my lordes is it nowe tyme thynke you for me to folowe singularitie or vaynglorie synce it is nowe vpō daunger of my lyfe and death not onlye presently but also before God to come and I knowe yf I dye not in the true faythe I shall dye euerlastingly again I knowe yf I do not as you would haue me you will kyll me and many thousandes moo Yet had I leuer perishe at your handes than to perishe eternally And at this tyme I haue lost al my cōmodities of this worlde and nowe lye in a colhouse where a man would not laye a dogge with the which I am wel contented Cole Where are you hable to proue that the churche of Rome hath erred at any tyme and by what historie certaine it is by Eusebius that the churche was stablyshed at Rome by Peter and Paule and that Peter was Bisshop .xxv. yeres at Rome Phil. I knowe wel that Eusebius so wryteth but yf we compare that which S. Paule writeth to the Galathiās the first it wil manifestly appere the cōtrarie that he was not halfe so long there He lyued not past .xxxv. yeares after he was called to be an Apostle And Paul maketh mencion of his abidyng after Christes death more then .xviij. yeres Colle What did Peter wryte vnto the Galathians Phil. No I saye Paule maketh mencion of Peter wrytyng to the Galathians of his abiding And further I am hable to proue bothe by Eusebius and other historiographers that the church of Rome hath manifestly erred and at this present doth erre because she agreeth not with that which they wrote The primatiue churche dyd vse according to the Gospel And ther nedeth none other profe but cōpare the one with the other London Hearke my lordes wise parabable I maye compare this man to a certayne man I reade of which fell into a disperation and went into a wood to hang him selfe And when he came there he went vewyng of euery tree and could fynde none on the which he myght vouchesaffe to hang himselfe But I wil not applie it as I myght I praye you maister doctor go forth with him Nother you nor they are hable in this case Colle My lorde there be on euery syde on me that be better hable to answer him And I loue not to falle in disputacion for that nowe a dayes a man shall but sustayne shame and obloquy therby of the people I had leuer shewe my mynde in wrytyng Phil. And I had leuer that you should so do then otherwyse For thē a mā may better iudge of your wordes then by argument And I beseche you so doo But yf I were a ryche man I durst wager an hundreth poundes that you shal not be hable to shewe that you haue sayd to be decreed by a general coūsel in Athanasius tyme. For this I am sure of that it was concluded by a general counsel in Affrica many yeres after that none of Affrica vnder payne of excōmunication should apeale to Rome the which decre I am suer they would not haue made yf by the scriptures it had bene by an vniuersall counsell that all men should abyde and folowe the determinacion of the churche of Rome Colle But I can shewe that they reuoked that errour agayne Phil. So you saye maister doctour But I pray you shewe me where I haue hetherto heard nothing of you for my contentation but bare wordes without any autoritie London What I praye you ought we to dispute wyth you of our fayth Iustinian in the lawe hath a tytle De fide catholica to the contrarie Phil. I am certayne the ciuil lawe hath suche a constitucion but our fayth must not depende vpon the ciuil lawe For as S. Ambrose sayeth Non lex sed fides congregauit Ecclesiam Not the lawe but the gospel sayeth he hath gathered the church together worcest Maister Philpot you haue the spirite of pryde wherwith ye be ledde which wil not let you yelde to the truth Leaue it for shame Phil. Sir I am suer I haue the spirite of fayth by the which I speake at this present Neither am I ashamed to stand in my fayth Glocest What do you thynke yourselfe better learned then so many notable learned men as be here Phil. Elyas alone had the truthe whē there were foure hundreth priestes against him worcest Oh you would be coūted now for Helyas And yet I tel thee he was deceiued For he thought ther had ben none good but him selfe and yet he was deceyued for ther was .vii. hundreth besydes hym Phil. Yea but he was not deceyued in doctrine as the other .vii. hūdreth were worc By my fayth you are greatly to blame that you can not be content to be of the churche which euer hath ben of that faythful antiquitie Phil. My lorde I knowe Rome haue ben there where I sawe your lordship worc In dede I dyd flye from hence thither And I remember not that I sawe you there But I am sorye that you haue ben there for the wyckednes whych you haue sene there peraduēture causeth you to
argument for the supremacie of the bisshop of Rome because he sayeth it goeth not wel with the churche wheÌ„ the hygh priest is not obeyed which supplieth the â—â—ede of Christ after Goddes worde and the consent of his felow bishoppes and the agrement of the people Sauer Howe can you auoyd this place which maketh so playnly for the B. of Rome his supremacie phil It maketh not so playne M. doctour on your sede as you gather as by and by I wyl gyue you to vnderstande But fyrst I chalenge the wager whiche we made that your boke is myne For here you may see that he calleth Cornelius his felowbishop as he dothe also in other places And nowe for the vnderstanding of that place you do misconstrue it to make the hyghe priest only for the B. of Rome and otherwyse then it was in his tyme. For ther were by Nicene couÌ„sel foure Patriarkes appointed The Patriarke of Hierusalem the Patriarke of Constantinopole the Patriarke of Alexandria and the Patriarke of Rome of which foure the Patriarke of Rome was placed lowest in the couÌ„sel and so continued many hundreth yeres for that tyme of .vij. or .viij. general councelles as I am hable to shewe Therfore s CipriaÌ„ wryting to Cornelius Patriarke of Rome whom he calleth his felowe bishop fyndeth him selfe offended that certaine heretikes beyng iustly excoÌ„municated as the NouaciaÌ„s were by him dyd flee from his diocese which was theyr chefe bishop refusing to be obedient vnto him and to be reformed as to the bishop of Rome or to the Patriarke of Constantinopole And there were receyued in communion of congregacion in derogacion of good ordre and discipline in the churche and to the maintayning of heresies and scismes And that heresies did spring vp and scismes daylye aryse herof that obedience is not geuen to the priest of God nor once consydered to be in the churche for the tyme the priest and for the tyme the Iudge in Christes steade as in the decre of Nicene couÌ„sel was apointed not meaning the B. of Rome only but euery Patriarke in his precinct Who had euery one of them a college or cathedrall churche of learned priestes in hearing of whom by a conuocacion of all his felowes bisshoppes with the consent of the people al heresies were determined by the word of God And this is the meanyng of s Cyprian Sauer You take it so but it semeth to me otherwyse phil Vpon what ground it should seme otherwise vnto you I knowe not but this meaning which I haue declared the general counsels .vij. or .viij. one after an other confirmed it so to be whiche did not alowe one supreme head onlye pen. Ther were not so many generall councelles but foure only alowed phil That is not so M. Pendleton Although ther be foure specially alowed for the confirmacion of the Trinitie but beside these foure ther were many other general councelles as you maye learne by many wryters Achaplayn Did not Christ buylde his churche vpon Peter S. Cyprian sayeth so phil S. Cyprian De simplicitate prelatorum declareth in what respect he so sayd In persona vnius he is Dedit Dominus omnibus claues vt omnium vnitatem denunciaret God gaue in persone of one man to all the keyes that he myght signifye the vnitie of all men And also S. Austen sayeth in the .10 homelie of saint IohnÌ„ Si in Petro non esset ecclesiae misterium noÌ„ ci diceret Dominus tibi dabo claues si autem hoc Petro dictum est non habet ecclesia si autem ecclesia habet quando claues accepit ecclesiam totam designauit Yf in Peter had not ben the mysterie of the churche the lorde had not said vnto hym I will geue vnto thee the keyes Fo yf that were sayd vnto Peter the churche hath them not yf the churche haue them when Peter receyued them he signifyeth the hole church As also s Hierome a priest of Rome wrytyng to Nepotian sayeth that al churches do leane to their owne pastors where he speaketh of the Ecclesiastical hierarchie or regiment where he maketh no mencion of the bishop of Rome And ad Euagium he sayeth that where so euer a bisshop be whether it be at Rome or at Euagie or at RegiuÌ„ he is of one power and of one iurisdiccion Sauer S. Hierom De celesti hierarchia It was Dionisius you meane Phil. I say not that Hierom wrote any boke so entytled but I saye that in the epistle by me alledged he maketh mencion of the ecclesiastical regiment Sauer I woÌ„der you wil stand so stedfast in your errour to your owne destructioÌ„ phil I am sure we are in no errour by the promise of Christ made to the faythful on s which is that he wil gyue to his true churche suche a spirit of wisdome that the aduersaries therof should neuer be hable to resist And by this I know we are of the truth for that neyther by reasonyng neyther by writing your synagog of Rome is hable to answere Wher is ther one of you all that euer hath ben able to answere any of the godly learned ministers of Germanie who haue disclosed your couÌ„terfaict religion Which of you all at this daye is hable to answere Caluynes institucion which is minister of Geneua Sauer A goodlye minister in deade of receyt of cuspurses ruÌ„nagates traytours And of late I can tel you there is suche contention fallen betwene hym and his owne sects that he was fayne to flee the towne about predestinacion I tell you truth for I cam by Geneua hyther Phil. I am sure you blaspheme that godly man and that godlye churche where he ys minister as it is your churches condicion when you can not answer meÌ„ by learnyng to oppresse theÌ„ with blasphemies and false reports For in the mater of predestinacion he is in non other opinion theÌ„ all the doctors of the churche be agreyng to the scriptures Sauer Men be hable to answer hym yf they lust And I praye you which of you haue answered bishope Fysshers boke phil Yes master Doctor that booke is answered and answered agayne yf you lyst to seeke what hath ben written agaynst hym And after this Doctor storie came in to whom I sayd master doctor you haue done me greate iniurie without lawe haue straytlye imprisoned me more lyke a dogge then a man And besides thys you haue not kept promise with me For you promised that I shuld be Iudged the next day after Storie I am come nowe to kepe promise with yt. Was ther euer suche a faÌ„tasticall man as this ys Nay he ys no man he ys a beaste Yea those heretikes be worse then brute beastes for they will vpon a vayne singularitie take vpon them to be wyser theÌ„ all men being in dede veray fooles and asseheades not hable to mayntayne that which of an arrogaunt obstinacie they do stande in Phil. Master Doctor I am content to abyde your rayling Iudgement of me nowe saye what you will
my lord that your grace do reade him any mo places for he estemeth them not Phil. I esteme thē in as muche as they be of force as your lordship dothe heare me deny no doctors you bring but require the true applicacion of them according to the writers meaning as by his owne wordes I do proue Yorke I wil reade him the place and so make an ende After he had red the sentence he said that by fowre speciall pointes here S. Austine proueth the catholike church The first is by the consēt of al nations the secōd by the Apostolike sea the thryd by vniuersalitie the fourthe by this word catholike Chichest That is a notable place in dede and please your grace philpot I pray you my lord of what church doth S. Austine write the same of Rome or not ▪ Yorke Yea he writeth it of the churche of Rome philpot I wil lay with your lordship as muche as I can make it is not so And let the boke be sene Bathe What arte thou hable to laye that hast nothing Yorke Dothe he not make mention here of the Apostolike sea wherby he meaneth Rome Phil. That is very straytly interpreted my lorde as though the Apostolike sea had ben no where els but at Rome But let it be Rome and yet shal you neuer verifye the same onles all the other cōdicions do go ther with as S. Austine dothe procede withall wherof none except the Apostolike sea can nowe be verifyed of the churche of Rome For the faythe which that sea nowe maintayneth hath not the consent of all nations nether euer had besydes that it can not haue the name of catholyke bycause it diffreth from the catholike churches which the Apostles planted almost in all thinges Yorke Naye he goeth about here to proue the catholike churche by vniuersalitie And howe can you shewe your churche to be vniuersall fyftye or an hundred yeres ago phil That is not material neither any thing against S. Austyne For my churche wherof I am were to be counted vniuersall though it were but in .x. persons bicause it agreeth with the same that the Apostles vniuersally did plāte Yorke I perceyue you are an obstinate man in your opinion and will not be taught Wherfore it is but lost labore to talke with you any lenger you are a member to be cut of Chichest I haue heard of you before howe you troubled the good bishop of Winchester before and nowe I see in you that I haue heard Phil. I trust you see no euill in me by this I desire of you a sure ground to build my fayth on and if you shewe me none I pray you speake not yll of him that meaneth well Chichest Thou arte an impudent felow as I haue commoned with all Phil. That is spokē vncharytably my lord to blaspheme him whom you can not iustly reproue Chichest Why you are not God blasphemy is counted a rebuke to God-ward and not to man phil Yes it may be aswel verified of an infamy layed to man speaking in Goddes cause as you nowe do laye vnto me for speaking frely the truthe afore God to mayntayne your vayne religion you are voyde of all good grounde I perceyue you are blinde guydes and leaders of the blind and therfore as I am bound to tel you verye hypocrites tyrānously persecuting the truthe which otherwise by iust order you are hable to do by no meanes Your owne doctors and testimonyes which you bring be euidentlye against you and yet you wil not see the truthe Chichest Haue we this thanke for our good will comming to instructe thee phil My lordes you must beare with me synce I speake in Christes cause and bicause his glory is defaced and his people cruelly and wrongfully slain by you bicause they will not consent to the dishonour of God to hypocrisie with you Yf I told you not your fault it should be required at my handes in the day of iudgement therfore knowe you ye hipocrites in dede that it is the spirite of God that telleth you your synne and not I. I passe not I thanke God of al your crueltie God forgeue it you and gyue you grace to repent And so they departed The same day at night before supper the bishop sent for me into his chappel in the presence of Archdeacon Harpesfild doctor Chadsey in the presence of other his Chaplayns and his seruauntes MAster Philpot I haue by sundry meanes gone about to do you good and I maruail you do so litle considre it By my truthe I can not tell what to say to you Tel me directly whether you wil be a conformable man or no and wher vpon you chifly stand Phil. I haue told your lordship often tymes playne ynough where on I stand chiefly requiring a sure probatiō of the churche wherunto you cal me Harpel S. Austine writing against the Donatistes declareth foure special notes to knowe the church by the cōsent of many nations the faith of the sacraments confirmed by antiquitie succession of bishops vniuersalitie London I pray you master Archdeacō fett the booke hither it is a notable place let him se it And the boke was brought and the bishop red it demaunding howe I could answere the same Phil. My lord I like S. Austins foure points for the tryal of the catholik churche wherof I am For it can abide euery point therof together which yours can not doo Harpes Haue not we succession of bishops in the sea and church of Rome wherfor then do you deny our churche to be the catholike churche Phil. S Austine doth not put succession of bishops only to be sufficient but he addeth the vse of the sacramentes according to antiquitie and doctrine vniuersally taught and receyued of most nations from the beginning of the primatiue church the which your churche is far from But my churche can auouche all these better then yours therfore by S. Austins iudgement which you here bring myne is the catholike churche and not yours Harpes Chad. It is but foly my lord for you to reason with him for he is irrecuperable Phil. That is a good shift for you to runne vnto when you be confounded in your owne sayenges and haue nothing els to say you are euidently deceyued and yet will not see it when it is layd to your face Here ende as many of Iohn̄ Philpots examinacions as came to the printors handes and assone as the rest may be come by thou shalt haue it good reader by the will of God In the meane tyme refreshe thy selfe with this praising God for the perseueraunce of this cōstaūt learned martir and praye hartly for the rest of Christes poore afflicted church Geue God the glorye Iesus is God with vs. An Apologie of Iohan Philpot written for spitting vpon an Arrian with an inuectiue against the Arrians the very natural chyldren of Antichrist with an admonition to all that be faythfull in Christ to beware of them and of other late sprong heresies as of
the most enemies of the Gospell I Am amased and do tremble both in body and soule to hear at this daye certen men or rather not men but couered with mannes shape persons of a beastly vnder standing who after so many and manyfolde benefites and graces of our Lorde God and saueour Iesus Christ manyfested to the hole worlde and cōfirmed with so euidēt testimonies of the Patriarches Prophetes and Apostles approued by wōderous signes and vndoubted tokens Rom. 1. Hebr. 1. declared to be both God and Man by the spirite of sanctification the eternall sonne of God with power the very expresse ymage of the substaunce of the father and reuealed vnto vs in these later tymes in the fleshe borne of the sede of Dauid in the which he hath taught vs truely and maruelously finished the mysterie of our saluation and is ascēded in bodye into heauen frō whence his diuinitie abased him selfe for our glorie and sitteth in equall power at the ryght hande of the father in his euerlasting kingdome notwithstanding are not ashamed to robbe this eternal sonne of God our most merciful saueour of his infinite maiestie and to plucke him out of the glorious throne of his vnspeakable deitie O impietie of all others most detestable O infidelitie more terrible then the palpaple darkenes of Egipt O flaming fyrebrandes of hell as I may vse the termes of the Prophet Esay Esa 7. against suche apostatas was it not ynough for you to be greuous vnto men by so manifolde sectes heresies The Arrians haue manye heresies diuiding your selues frō Christes true catholike church as neuer hitherto hath ben hearde of any hereticall segregacion but will also be molest vnto my God the eternall sonne of God What hart maye beare suche blasphemye what eye maye quietly beholde suche an enemye of God What membre of Christ maye alowe in any wyse suche a membre of the deuil What Christian may haue felowship with suche ranke Antichristes Who hauyng the zeale of the glorie of God in his hart can not burst out in teares and lamentacions to heare the immortal glorie of the sonne of God trode vnder the fete by the vyle sede of the serpent whose heade by his eternal Godhead he hath beaten downe Gene. 3 and therfore now lyeth byting at his hele lurking in corners but he shal be crushed in peces vnto eternal woo after he hath spewed out al his venome for brighter is the glorie of our God and Christ than it maye be darkened by al the rowte of the prince of darkenes who dwelleth in the lyght which is vnaprocheable although these dead dogges do take vpon them with their corrupt sight to pearce and vlemishe the same to their owne blinding for euer Yf the good king Ezechias after he had heard the blasphemies that Rabsaces vttred against the liuing Lord tare his royal garmentes in peces in testimony of the sorowe he had cōceyued for the same shall we be stil at the blasphemous barkinges against our Lorde and shewe no token of indignacion for the zeale of his glorie Yf Paule and Barnabas perceyuing the people of Listris Act. 14. to take the honour of God and attributing the same to creatures rent their garmētes in signification that we all shoulde declare by some outwarde meanes the lyke sorowe when we heare or see the lyke blasphemie howe maye we with patience abyde to heare the robberie of the maiestie of our Christes equalitie with God Phil. 2. who as saint Paule witnesseth thought it no robberie to be equal with God what faythful seruaunt can be content to heare his maister blasphemed And yf perchaunce he shewe any iuste angre therfore al honest men do beare with his doyng in that behalfe and can not you good christian brethren and systerne beare with me who for the iuste zeale of the glorie of my God and Christ beyng blasphemed by an arrogaunt ignoraunt and obstinatlye blinded Arrian makyng hym selfe equal with Christ sayeng the God was none otherwise in Christ thā God was with him makyng him but a creature as he was hym selfe vaunting to be without synne as wel as Christ dyd spit on him The cause why I did spit Partly in declaracion of that sorowe which I had to heare suche a proude blasphemour of our saueour as also to signifie vnto other there present whom he went about to peruert that he was a person to be abhorred of al christians and not to be companied with al. Yf this my fact seme to some that iudge not al thinges according to the spirit of God vncharitablye Yet let them knowe that God who is charitie allowed the same Luke 12. For it is written in the Gospel that Christ came not to set vs at peace with men in the earth but at diuision and that is for his cause and truthe And who so euer wil not abide with Christes churche in the truthe we ought not to shewe the pointes of charitie vnto any suche Math. 12.18 but to take him as an heathen and a publicane Yf any man sayeth S. Iohn̄ bring not vnto you this doctrine which I haue taught you saye not God spede 2. Ioh. 1. vnto him for who so sayeth God spede vnto suche a one is partaker of his euel doinges Consider you therfore that haue loue and felowship wit suche that the same dampnacion shal fal vpon you therfore as is dewe to wicked heretikes God wil haue vs to put a difference betwixt the cleane vncleane 2. Cor. 6. and to touche no vncleane persones but to go out from them And what is more vncleane than infidelitie who is a greater infidele thā the Arrian who spoyleth his redemer of his honour and maketh him but a creature What felowship is there betwene light and darkenes what concord can ther be betwene Christ Belial Neuer was there more abominable Belials than this Arrians be The ignoraunt Belials worshipped the creatures for the creatour But these peruerse Arrians do worship Christ who is the creatour of al thīges Gal. 1. Rom. 9. 1. Ioh. 5. by whom as S. Paule testifieth both in heauen and in earth al thinges visible and inuisible were made who is God blessed for euer and as S. Iohn̄ witnesseth very God and lyfe euerlasting but as a creature lyke vnto themselues what christiā tonge may cal him to be a good man that denyeth Christ to be the author and worker of al goodnes as the Arrian dothe Wo be vnto them sayeth the prophete that call euil good and good euel Iudge therfore vprightly ye children of men condempne not the iuste for the vnrighteous sake neyther by any meanes seme to allowe either in worde or dede the wicked who saye ther is no God Iohan. 5. for they that honour not the sonne honour not the father and he that hathe not the sōne hath not the father Iohan. 14 And yf we beleue in God we must also beleue in Christ for the
thinges visible inuisible do coÌ„sist haue their beyng and lyfe In the which beleue we were baptised by the institution of Christ in to the name of the father the sonne the holy Goost Mat. 28. And shal we now begin to stande in doubt of this most firme fayth the which froÌ„ the beginning hath ben coÌ„firmed besydes the vndoubted testimonies of the scriptures with the precious bloud of an infinit nomber of martirs and coÌ„fessours It is no maruaile thoughe these Arrians denye the holy goost to be God who refuse the testimonie that he made of him selfe in fiery tongues to the primatiue churche Act. 1. Math. 3. and before that in the likenes of a Doue at the baptisme of Christ They must nedes denye the spirite of truth who be led by the spirite of errour vnder the colour of Godlynes denyeng their true sanctifier instructour whom Christ euidently taught to be an other comfortor besydes him The holy goost is an other comforter besides Christ And therfore to th ende he should so be beleued appeared visibly as Christ dyd but as their corrupt faces bashe not to denye the eternall sonne of God so are they not ashamed to denye the holye Goost to be God The Arrians are past shame their forehead is lyke the forehead of an hore hardened with counterfaited hypocrisie styffnecked wretches they are that wyll not yeld to the truth though it be neuer so manyfestly layde before their face they haue sworne to runne after their master the deuil wtout staye to draw with theÌ„ as many as they can in the which they are very diligent The Lorde confounde them the Lorde conserue his electe from their dampnable poyson the Lorde open al christian eyes to beware of them The Lorde gyue al his churche an vniforme zeale minde to abhorre them to cast faith froÌ„ them You that be of the truth haue any zeal of God in you stere it vp bynde it against these enemyes of our lyuyng God which is the Father the Sonne the holy Goost to whome be al honour praise and glorie for euer Canst thou be angred with thy brother beyng lawfully called to be a mynister in Christes church and to be a teacher in the same for spitting at an obstinate aduersarie of Christ refusyng to obey the truthe and declare no maner of indignacion against the Arrian the thefe that robbeth thy God of his honour Doth the iniurie of the Arrian more offende thee than the defence of thy redemer please the Art thou not ashamed rather to take part with an Arrian than with a true christian Thou wouldest seme to haue charitie by bearing with the wicked and contrarie to al charitie thou backbitest thy brother for doyng that which thou shouldest rather do than to haue any familiaritie with thee Yf thou dwel within the churche of Christ what hast thou to do with them that be without Which go about nothing els but to buyld a new Babilon and to destroye al the Godly order of the Gospel I tel thee plaine that I am nothyng of that face but gyue God thankes that I heare euil for wel doyng Yf I should please meÌ„ I could not please God I maruaile that there should be so litle zeale in a true christian hart that it can seme to take the part of an ArriaÌ„ We can not scrue Christ and Baal how long wil meÌ„ halt on both sydes let your halting be healed Yf ye be vnfainedly of the truth abyde in the truthe let al your wyl be toward the ê“fessours of the truth in the vnitie of Christes church least you might appeare to be scatterers with heretiks rather thaÌ„ gatherers together with Christ Do ye not se what a rable of newe founde scaterers ther be such a sorte as neuer at ones hath beÌ„ heard of in one realme the one contrarye to the other The deuil hath shakeÌ„ out his bagge of heresies against the gospell So that the deuel myght seme to haue powred out al his poysons at ones against the gospel And wyl you that glorie of the truth go about by worde dede helpe to maintayne any suche in their headdy errours he that toucheth pitche can not chose but defyle his fyngers therwith Be not deceaued sayeth S. Paule for wicked talke corrupteth good maners 1. Cor. 14 Therfore watche ye righteously and synne not for many therbe that haue not the knowlage of God I speake it to your shame 2. Tim. 2. Saint Paule willeth vs to be more circuÌ„spect in talking or acquainting our selues with suche then men at this daye be to their incorragemeÌ„t strenghtnyng in their errour The wordes of an heretike as he sayeth in an other place eateth lyke a canker 2. Tim. 2 And therfore wrytyng vnto Tyte Tit. 3. he commaundeth al Christian persones to auoyde an heretike after once or twyse warnyng knowing that such a one is peruerted and synneth and is dampned by his owne iudgement And to the Thessalonians he also sayeth 2. Thes 3. we commaunde you in the name of our Lorde Iesus Christ that you wythdrawe your selfes froÌ„ euery brother that walketh inordinatly not according to the institutioÌ„ which they haue receaued of vs. There can be no felowship betwixt fayth and infidelitie he that is not with Christ is his enemy Luke 11. he that is an enemie to the vnitie and peace of Christes churche he maye not be coupled with vs. And Salomon rendreth a cause why Prou. 16. A peruerse man in his mouthe doth carye perdicion and in his lippes hydeth fyer Agayne he sayeth an euil man obeyeth the tounge of the vnrighteous Prou. 17 but the Iuste harketh not to lyeng lippes Also Ecclesiasticus warneth sayeng Eccle 28. Hedge thyne cares wyth thornes and do not heare a wycked tounge This haue I touched to gyue you warning howe to behaue your selues with the Arrians and other sismatikes and heretikes whome al godlie ordre and good learning displeaseth the which yf our Christian brethren and systerne did well way and folow there wolde not be so many stoute heretikes as there be I doubt that the heretikes be better prouided for than the poore faithfull afflicted flocke of Christ If you heare that ther is conteÌ„tion betwene vs and theÌ„ that be in prison maruaile not therfore neyther let your mindes be alienated from the truth any thing therby for as it is writteÌ„ it is necessary the heresies should be 1. Cor. 11. that the elect might be tryed Christ and Antichrist can neuer agree 1. Ioh. 2. And as S. Iohn saith Antichrist is come and there is nowe many Antichristes they ar gon out from vs such as were non of vs for if they had they wold haue coÌ„tinued with vs by thys sayeng of S. Iohn we maye wel trye and knowe all the rowte of Antichristes generacion suche they be as breake the vnitie of Christes church neither abide in the