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A95098 A true narrative of the examination, tryall, and sufferings of James Nayler in the cities of London and Westminster, and his deportment under them. With the copies of sundry petitions and other papers, delivered by severall persons to the Lord Protector, the Parliament, and many particular Members thereof, in his behalf. With divers remarkable passages (relating thereto) before his journey to Bristol, whither he is now gone towards the filling up the measure of his sufferings. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1657 (1657) Wing T2789; Thomason E899_6; ESTC R204821 56,615 71

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taking them for enemies It is saith Christ Iesus because they know not the Father nor me Ioh. 16. 2 3. Now examine your selves you that are for killing or hurting Do you know the Father Do you know the Son Have you communion and fellowship with them Is the Son begot in you Is He formed in you Are you come into His innocent nature if not your confidence and zeal will deceive you and you stand in that nature that will kil children for enemies for you cannot know them til you know his nature brought forth in you And if His Nature be once brought forth in you you wil sinde a saving spirit raised up in you not a destroying spirit for Christ and every measure of Him is a Saviour not a Destroyer and so from Christ the Saviour spiring up many Saviours Obad. v. 21. He that is the destroyer and persecutor is yet in the old Covenant Hagar He is but the son of the bond-woman which is yet in bondage with her children and is to be cast out Gal. 4. 22. to the end And if ever you come to witness the new Covenant and the Law of God writ in your hearts and the nature of Christ formed in you you will sinde the persecutor in you cast out and that it enters not the Kingdome for there 's nothing hurts nor destroyes in all Gods Holy Mountain Isa 11. 9. Wil. Tomlinson You who are for killing or otherwise harming I appeal to that of God in your own consciences which will witnesse faithfully Do you sinde the Spirit of God witnessing in you that you are the Sons of God Do you finde that hope in you that purifies you as the Son of God is pure 1 Joh. 3. 3. that faith that purifies the heart Acts 15. 9. Are you become dead to the world are you dead to the lusts of the flesh to the lusts of the eyes and pride of life Have you mortified the flesh with the affections and lusts thereof Is your conversation in heaven Or are you not yet among those that think these things impossible not knowing the power of God Are you not yet in the reprobate state not knowing Christ in you Are not some of you such as will deride and scorn and are full of bitterness Are not some of selfish covetous high-minded far from little children Now if you be such how can you be able to see the high things of the Kingdom of God who cannot yet see the low things the beginnings the entrances for till you become as little children you cannot see them Matth. 18. 18. 3. Joh. 3. 3. and while you are in your natural condition you cannot see them 1 Cor. 2. 14. The natural man perceives not the things of the Spirit of God neither can he know them How then should he that 's such be able to judg of them How can you that are judg such of the high things of God and not count them blasphemy How can you hear one speak of Saviours and not count it blasphemy though the Scripture hath spoke it Obad ver 11. How can you hear it that a feeble one shall be as David and the house of David as God as the Angel of the Lord Zech. 12. 8. How can you hear it that we should be Co-heirs with Christ Jesus if you consider what a Co-heir is How can you hear it that any should sit in the Throne of Christ with him and have power over the Nations Rev. 3. 21. 2. 26 27. and have the Name of Christ put upon him yea though Christ put it upon him Rev. 3. 12. How can you that are such hear these things such like and not count them blasphemy though the Scripture hath spoken them any more then the zealous devout Jews could hear that Christ should be called the Son of God without counting it blasphemy Therefore learn this counsel that Christ hath given First judge your selves lest you be judged for judging things above your measure VVill. Tomlinson VVhat shall be done to the man whom the King will honor Let the Royal Apparel be brought which the King useth to wear and the horse that the King ridethou and the Crown royal which is set upon his head and let his apparel and horse be delivered to the hand of one of the Kings most noble Princes that they may array the man withal whom the King delighteth to honor and bring him on horseback through the streers of the City and proclaim before him Thus shall it be done to the man whom the King delighteth to honor And thus by the command of the King it was done to Mordicai a Type of that Spirit that cannot how to proud Haman Esth 6. Hath an earthly King this Power to impart of his own honour to his Servants and hath Christ Iesus King of Kings and Lord of Lords no power to impart of his honor to his servants whom he makes Kings Was it no Treason or Blasphemy against the King for Mordicai to receive this honor and not to rebuke it And must such a thing be blasphemy if so done among the Lambs of Christ to give and receive of Christs Honors at his command in sigue of his approaching and coming again Hath not Christ Iesus our Lord power to put his own Honors Names Titles Hosannahs upon his servants as well as King Ahasuerus to put his Crown and Apparel Royal upon one of his who was found faithful Hath not Christ said He that overcometh shall sit with me in my Throne even as I also overcame and am set down with my Father in his throne Hath he Power to impart his throne which is greater and which he received after he departed and hath he no Power to impart his Hosannahs if he please which is less and which he had here on earth among and from babes and sucklings And how know you that he did not command this thing to be done if done Hath not Christ Iesus said He that overcometh him will I make a Pillar in the temple of my God and he shall go no more out and I will write upon him the Name of my God and the Name of the City of my God New Ierusalem which cometh down out of Heaven from my God and I will write upon him my New name He that hath an ear let him hear Can this be but it will be accounted blasphemy by the blind world who live in continual blasphemy calling themselves Christians and are not Therefore consider what you are doing you whose mouths are opened against that ye under stand not Will Tomlinson To the Protector and TO you who are chosen by these Nations to be the Parliament of Eugland to divide rule and govern things this is the Word of the Lord God to you Take heed of acting against Christ where he is made manifest take heed of acting or doing any thing against them that be in the pure Religion or acting any thing against Religion how know you but this
be made manifest which have been lost the Truth the power of the form and the life of Christ and Christ himself the Emanuel Therefore take heed of persecuting that which is created and made by his power where the power is received and dwelt in for the powers sake which power is Christ and which the power speakes through and where the power of God rules where there is a fault the fault is judged but where the seed is that is to be owned and it is not just that the mouth of the séed should be stopped in the fear of God and meekness vveigh and consider these things before you act and consider what vvas in the Apostles that caused them to suffer POSTSCRIPT IF the seed speake which is Christ he hath no other Name for the seed is Jesus Christ and it is not blasphemy but truth but if the seed of the serpent speak and say he is Christ that is the Lyer and the Blasphemer and the ground of all Blasphemy and is not the seed which is Christ but the head of the serpent is to be bruised which is the cause of all enmity strife and debate with the seed of the Woman which is Ghrift George Fox Was not the appearance of Christ when He was born glorious when that the voyce was cryed Hosanna to the Highest Was not this to the astonishing of the beholders and amazement of the world did it not stir up all chief Priests and Herod was not He puzled about His Birth and they troubled at his coming did not the Chief Priests and Rulers gather against Him who was full of grace and truth did not the glory of Him shew it self forth when He went up unto Jerusalem when the high voice was spoken and the songs to him sung the strength ordained out of the mouths of Babes and sucklings and was not Jerusalem the highest place of Worship and did not the strength which was ordained for the Babes and Sucklings set the Priests and Rulers on rage against Christ that they crucified and slew him and did not that make Herod and Pilate friends in the highest place of Worship did not He say and tell his Disciples Hee would come again the Hosanna Him that was cryed Glory to the Highest And did not He come again to his Apostles accordin 〈…〉 o his promise and make his abode with them and sup with them Did not the Apostles say to the Saints that Christ was in them the mysterie the hope of glory and if He was in them the body was dead because of sin did not the Apostle say Examine your selves prove your selves Know you not that Iesus Christ is in you except you be Reprobates mark Iesus Christ in you the Emmanuel the Saviour the Lamb of God the Hosanna Is not his appearance in the Spirit as glorious in his second coming as it was at his first is it not as much to be admired in the world as it was ever Answer these things and satisfie yourselves To the Light wherewith Christ Jesus hath enlightned you all I speak that with it you may see when you act against him where he is manifested To prison them contrary to the Just is to make them to grow and to banish them is to shame your Religion and not to own the thing the scripture speakes of and to put them to death is to destroy your selves George Fox Whether or no you will suffer Christ to have as much honor in the earth and the world as the Devil hath Where Christ is manifested whether or no he shall not have more honour or as much where he is manifested And whether or no it is offence to bow to man or to kneel before a Indgein the world Whether this be offensive to the world amongst the world to bow before such and among such the truth is not in And whether or no it would not be offence to such to bow to Christ where he is manifested and persecute such as do bow where the thing is in the truth whether or no such a thing may not be done in the truth and bee a figure to all the bowings of the earthly Powers which be out of truth which hath reigned above the seed of God An example to you all Therefore take heed and consider before you act any thing or judge lest God judge you afterward for be assured He will Whether bowing in the Truth may not bee a figure that the seed of God shall rise and reign above the Earthly Powers and they shall bow to it And how know you but such things as these may bee tryalls to you whether you will persecute another for taking that which is acted among you to your selves in another way different from this Now come to do as you would be done by and do not persecute that in another that is acted in the world though it be professed otherwayes in the intent and come to the true measure and weight and act nothing in your own wils nor out of the counsel of God to judge the just upon earth in this world the just you 'l be judged by that is of the world to come without end I receive not Honor of man Whether or no if any do persecute the seed which doth take the honor of God which is over the world and it They themselves do take the honor of the world that persecutes the contrary Are these things judged with a just measure and weighed with an equall ballance yea or nay George Fox DID not Christ wash the Disciples feet Did he not do that as a pattern and example to those that came after him that they should do to one another Have you washed one anothers feet Have ye anointed one another with oyle that stumble at these where they are acted Are not these the expressions of love to one another And are not these things to be acted amongst the Disciples of Christ Are not these things wonders amongst you that do not wash one anothers feet that be out of the example of the Lord did not the Disciples wash one anothers feet according to Christs example Were not the Prophets feet washed Did not Peter desire his head o be washed Do not wonder and strange at these things where they are practised Were not the Saints to salute one another with a holy kisse and was not Peter to be carried whither he would not Was there not a time that he girded himself And is it not the Prince of the air that rules in the children of disobedience if it be not the Prince of Peace and the Lamb of God And is it not an expression of love and honor where there is the washing of one anothers feet And for the washing or kissing of feet it is but an expression of love and humility And is not this a patern and example to all you to judge you all how far short ye are of washing one anothers feet or kissing one anothers feet and do not wrong
Israel The evidence of this was in the same letter of Jane Woodcocks we find it given to him and in his examination at Bristoll whether that title was given to him he would make no answer And being examined by the Committee whether he assumed to be sent to judge and try the cause of Israel answered in these words the Judge of Israel is but one and that Judge I witnesse in me which is the Christ a Mark his answers all along and see what blasphemy you find And further answered if thou speak of him whom the Father hath sent into the World and begotten in me the holy Ghost the Spirit of the Father and the Son in me which is in me it thou speak of it this I own And being asked in what respect he was sent he answered no otherwise but as God manife s t in the flesh though not as mortall And being asked by whom he was sent to trie the cause of Israel answered by him who hath made all creatures and hath sent his Spirit into me his Son into me to try the cause though he said he was no Judge in carnall matters And being asked whether he were more sent to judge and trye the cause of Israel than another answered in these words as to my saying I am sent mind that no otherwise then as the Father and the Son is in me and to that I say further that no other man is sent in that sence but he that knoweth the indwelling of that God and according to the measure of his knowledge of the living God so far is Judgement b Let his answers be w●yed in the right Ballance Job 31. 6. and those that dwell in love will see no 〈…〉 llin them committed to him and no further And being urged to answer whether any other had the same measure of Judgement to judge the cause of Israel as he had he answered that he ●●d●ot at present any thing given him of his Father to answer unto that Resolution of the Committee Resolution of the Committee That James Naylor a Learn to speak truth hath assumed to be sent to judge and trye the Cause of Israel Iesus And for this the evidence was Iohn Stranger in a postscript in his wifes letter directed to and found upon Iames Naylor used these words thy name is no more to be called Iames but Iesus which postscript being shewed to Stranger by the Committee he owned it written by him and being asked wherefore he called him Jesus answered in these words I was moved b Be not offended at the movings of the Lord lest he break you in pieces Read Mat. 21. 44. of the Lord and afterwards by the Spirit of the Lord and being asked whether by Jesus he meant the Saviour of the World he would give no answer And Martha Symmons in her examination at Bristoll saith that she hath heard some call him Jesus which examina●ion being read unto her she denied not that though she denied another part of that examination And James Naylor being examinated whether any person had called him by the name of Jesus answered in these words as I am visible c Take notice of this here before you I believe they have not but that the name of the Lord is in me that I dare not deny and further said that they have given that name to him who is the Jesus d Read and understand 2. Cor. 13. 5. But if they have given it to any other then to the Son of God that is in me I do deny what they have spoken d Mark And being asked whether he denyed that they gave him the name of Jesus answered as I am a creature e Mark again where is the blasphemy I believe they did not afterwards confessed that the name of Jesus was given him in a letter if he had understood it of any other than the Iesus he should have denied it being demanded whether they gave the name of Jesus to him he answered in these words no otherwise than as to the Son of God a Take notice of this also being demanded whether any had given him the name of Jesus answered not as to the visible and being demanded to what then they gave the name of Jesus answered in these words I understand they gave that name to the Jesus to the Christ b Let those that know what Christ Jesus is judge if this be blaspemy and let the Scriptures bear witness Read Col. 1. 27. 2. Cor. 13. 5. that is in me Vpon his second examination being asked whether he owned the name of Jesus and if that title belonged to him as to Christ within him he answered that name was never published to be called by me neither do I call my self c Mark again by that name but what my Father hath published is another thing Resolution of the Committee Vpon this evidence the Committee were of opinion that James Naylor assumed the name of Jesus * What ground is there for such an opinion seeing they often Feard him deny it as to self He in whom the hope of Israel standeth And for this the evidence was in the letter of Martha Symmons found upon James Naylor were these words thou well beloved Lamb of God in whom the hope of Israel stands And James Naylor in his examination at Bristoll being asked whether he were the Lamb of God in whom the hope of Israel stands answered that if I were not his Lamb I should not be so sought to be devoured d Is it a true saying and that the hope of Israel stands in the Righteousnesse of the Father in whomsoever it is and being asked whether Israels hope were in any measure in him be answered yea which examination of his at Bristoll being read to him by the Committee he denyed not this part of it and being examinated by the Committee whether their hope of Israel did stand in him answered in these words it stands only in Christ Jesus a Take notice he cannot deny Christ Jesus but himself doth he deny and as Christ Jesus is known in me and being asked again whether he were in whom the hope of Israel stands answered in these words no way but as Christ is in me b Mark and being then asked whether as Christ is in you so are you he in whom the hope of Israel stands answered nay doe not adde to my words I speak as plain as I can that all the glory may be given to God * Take notice of this mans blasphemy who would have all the glory given to God and what is there proved that he hath taken to himself and none to the creature that the whole glory may be given to my Father And none to me as you look upon me as a creature and the next question was whether as Christ is in you are you he in whom the hope of Israel stands to which he answered Christ
thing is fallen out to try you whether or no you act against Christ where he is manifest in his Members for it is said Christ in you and if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin and if Christ be within may not he speak in Righteousness and be confessed there Now if Jesus Christ be not in you mark Jesus Christ be not in you ye are reprobates and if Christ be within must he not speak mark Iesus Christ the Emanuel the same is it offence for Christ to speak and Jesus to speak where he is within Now examine your selves know not you your selves how that Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates And if Jesus Christ be in you must he not speak in you Is it not he that must speak for the natural man receives not the things of God because they are spiritually discorned they are foolishness unto him and did not the Apostle say He did not live but Christ it was Christ that lived in him mark again it was Christ that lived in him if it was Christ that lived in him it was Christ that spake in him the life that he lived it was by the faith of the Son of God mark what a life was this and did he not say that the Son of God was revealed in him and if the Son be revealed in any must it not be he that must speak and declare of the Father but people have had the form of godliness since the dayes of the Apostles but have wanted the thing wants the thing that the Apostles were in who had the Son of God Christ Iesus and therefore it is by them that have the form wondred and stranged at and not the power of God wondred estranged where Christ Jesus is manifested and speaks and acts and rules was it not the Apostles Doctrine to preach Christ in them and told them the hope of the Glory which was in them which was the Mystery hid from ages and generations And is not this Christ the hope of Glory a Mystery in this age as it was in the days of the Apostles to the world and had been to generations before and hath it not been a mystery in the ages past amongst them that have had the form of godliness since the Apostles But where Christ within this Mystery this hope of glory is witnessed may he not speak without offence And did not Christ say he would come again to his Disciples and make his abode with them And did he not say I in you and the spirit of the Father which speaketh in you They were not to take thought when they were brought before Rulers and Magistrates and is not the spirit of the Father the spirit of Christ And are not they that have not the spirit of Christ none of his Therefore take heed I am moved to warn and charge you in the presence of the Lord God ye Rulers and Magistrates of this Nation lest ye be found acting against the spirit of the Father where he speaks in such as are brought before you who have the form of godliness such as witness Christ in them and the spirit of the Father to speak and the Son of God come according to his promise which doth witness that fulfilled doth not John say in his Epistle That the Son of God was tome and they were in him and this was the true God and Eternal life and do not the Apostles in their several Epistles which have been read amongst you long speake that Christ is in you and of their being the sons of God and the son of God revealed in them and the spirit of the father in them and Christ the mystery in them Have ye not heard these things read and amongst you and have not these things long been hid amongst them that have had the form of godliness and Christ in the male and the female and God will dwell in you and walk in you and the Word is in thy heart and is not Christs Name called the Word of God Now thi●k you not it strange to finde any to witness these things and that these things should be possessed you that have had the form of godliness long the night of the apostacie hath been long since these words were spoken forth and the thing enjoyed that these words spake of but now cometh to be possessed the things that they did enjoy which spoke the words which long they have had the form of in the night of the apostacie since the dayes of the Apostles Now if it be not the spirit of God nor the voice of the father nor the spirit of Christ that speaks in man it is natural and devilish and that is it that stands against the voice of Christ and the spirit of God but if any meer creature by him made saith that he is Christ that is false and is not so for all creatures that were created were by him and for him and all things that were made were created for his service Christ Iesus the Power of God by which all things were made and created and where the Power of God is there is Christ and Christ is the Power of God take notice of that the Power of God is everlasting where the Power of God is received and felt Christ is received and felt and where the Power of God speaks Christ speaks and ye that feel the Power of God ye feel Christ and will not be offended at the Power of God where it speaks which is Christ and so Christ is one in all who are in the povver and vvhere the povver of God doth not rule and speak the power of the devil that speaks and that is it which is tormented at the power of God which is Christ that speaks if the truth speak is it not Christ Doth he not say I am the Truth and if the life speak is it not that I which is the Life If the unrighteous speak it is a false thing but is the power of God speaks it is the truth If it be the power of God that speaks which is the true Christ it is the power of the Devil which is the false christ So examine your selves if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin and there the sin is dead And is not Christ Iesus which ex●ept he be in you ye are reprobates is not he the Emanuel and the Saviour and the Prince of peace and is not he the prince of Life and the Hosannah and is not this witnessed within where he is made manifest or is he divided from these and is not he the Lamb of God and are not they against him where he is manifest with him that would not have him to speak such as would not have him to raigne Here you may see what hathbeen lost since the Apostles that they were in and rejoiced this night of apostacie which time had the form but not the power but now is coming again to
hereunto annexed for the remitting the remaining punishment of James Naylor which Petition is received into the house and resteth there We humbly conceive it our duty also in consideration of the Joynt Interest which your Highnesse with the Parliament hath by the Instrument of Government in the Legislative power to make our humble addresse and request to your Highness That you will be pleased according to all former Declarations and the Experience we have had of your Highnesse care of this tender Interest of Liberty of conscience to weigh the consequence of these late proceedings And according to the 37th Article of the Instrument aforesaid and one of the grounds you declare upon in the war with Spain your Highnesse will stand up for the poor people of God in this day wherein your Highnesse will not do more right to your Petitioners then to your self and these Nations And we shall pray c The Product of which addresse was only sending the following Letter by his Highnesse to the Parliament Oliver P. RIght Trusty and Right Wellbeloved We greet you well Having taken notice of a Judgment lately given against one James Naylor Although We detest and abhorre the giving or occasioning the least countehance to Persons of such opinions or practices or who are under the guilt of such Crimes as are commonly imputed to the said Person Yet we being interessed in the present Government on behalf of the people of these Nations and not knowing how farr such a proceeding wholly without us may extend in the Consequence of it We desire that the House will let us know the grounds and reasons whereupon they have proceeded Given at White Hall the 25th day of Decemb. 1656. To our Right trusty and Right Wellbeloved Sir Thomas Widdrington Speaker Which Letter ocasioning some debate in the House and the day for Execution of the remaining part of the Sentence drawing near the Petitioners made a second Addresse to his Highnesse in manner following To his Highnesse c. The humble Petition c. Sheweth THat with great thankfulnesse we acknowledge your Highnesse Love to the Cause and People of God and their Liberties and particularly your appearing at their request by your Letter to the Parliament on their and the Nations bebehalf as they seem to be concerned in the proceedings against James Naylor And we desire we may not forget nor be unmindfull to blesse God that hath raised up your Highnesse a Bullwark between us and oppression and persecution And hath given you to be faithfull on all occasions when we have applyed our selves unto you that expecting the fruit of your Highnesse Letter to the Parliament to our grief we find nothing is done nor like to be done timely but the Execution of the remaining part of the Sentence will take place unlesse presented by your Highnesse Wherefore your Petitioners are constrained again to make their humble Addresse to your Highnesse that in regard the businesse will admit of no longer delay Your Highnesse will be pleased in pursuance of that claim you may justly make to a joynt-Interest and Concern in such proceedings to take such course that the intended Execution to morrow may be prevented And your Petitioners shall as in duty bound pray c. Notwithstanding all which the Sentence of Parliament took place and was Executed upon James Nayler It is very remarkable that these great sufferings have hitherto been endured by him with much patience and meeknesse as a Lamb led to the slaughter he opened not his mouth He never murmured at the heavy sentence pronounced against him nor complained against his adversaries nor of the severity of his sufferings but endured them with so much patience and quietness of spirit as that it hath astonished the minds of many who were eye-witnesses thereof When he was before the House and they asked him concerning particulars of his examination before the Committee which were passed out of his mind He in simplicity of heart referred himself to his Examiners saying he thought they would not do him wrong though divers of the House were hoth his accusers and Judges When they were about to pronounce the sentence He said He did not know his offence The Speaker amongst many others gave forth these words That he should know his offence by his punishment And when his sentence was pronounced against him he shewed not the least dislike but being denyed to have liberty to speak as he passed away he uttered these words with meeknesse He that hath prepared the body will enable me to suffer and I pray that He may not lay it to your charge Here followeth the Relation of W. H. touching the five Ministers that were with James Naylor a little before his last suffering on the Pillory in London VVEdnesday the 24. of Decemb. 1656. my self with others being at the Prison with James Naylor and understanding that divers Ministers were come 〈…〉 Order of Parliament to conserr with him to● hi● 〈…〉 e things for which he was there ●●●aine ● and being 〈…〉 s to know the Truth of what is ●e o●●e● concerning ●●●e 〈…〉 phemies of which he is accused and or which 〈…〉 also the frame and temper of his Spirit ●n●er such g 〈…〉 dings I desired to be present at the said Conference But being denyed that Liberty by the Keeper who told us he was appointed by the Ministers to let none be present whilst they were with him one of us addrest to the ministers themselves who also denyed us or so much as one of us to be present So we could not be admitted but were turned forth And my self having businesse in the City went about the same And about eight of the Clock the same night going through New-Gate Market I met those Ministers in the Street and judging they came then from James Naylor I went directly to the prison to know the issue of their meeting and asking him concerning it so near as I can remember he told me as followeth viz. That he told those Ministers he saw they had an intent to make him suffer though innocent as an evill doer and therefore denyed any to be present that might be indifferent Judges betwixt them and him or words to that purpose And therefore he should not say any thing unlesse what passed might be writ down and a Coppy therefore given him to keep or left with the Goaler signed by them Which he said was after some words assented unto And so they propounded severall Questions unto him and took his Answers in writing And I asking him if he could remember any of the Questions propounded to him he told me as followeth viz. That they asked him if he was sorry for those Blasphemies that he was guilty of and whether he did recant and renounce the same To which he answered What Blasphemies name them But they not able to instance in any particular He replyed Would you have me recant and renounce you know not what They asked him Whether he did
believe there was a Jesus Christ To which he answered He did believe there was for he had tasted of him and that Jesus had taken up his dwelling in his heart and spirit and for the Testimony of him he now suffered One of them replyed But I believe in a Jesus that never was in any mans heart To which he answered He knew no such Christ for the Christ he witnessed fills Heaven and Earth and dwells in the Hearts of Believers Again they demanded of him why he suffered those Women c. to worship and adore him To which he replyed Bowing to the Creature I deny But if they behold the power of Christ wherever it is and bow to it he had nothing by which he might resist that or gainsay it And withall said to the Ministers Have you thus long professed the Scriptures and do you now stumble at what they hold forth Whereupon they desired one instance of Scripture wherein such a practice was held forth To which he answered What think you of the Shunamite in falling down at the feet of Elisha and bowing before him Whether was the Prophet guilty of Blasphemy in not reproving her when shee did so 2 King 4. 27 37. as also divers others in Scripture spoken of Upon which they pawsing for a while answered That was but a civill act or acknowledgment So said he might you interpret theirs also if your eye were not evill seeing the outward action is one and the same But after a while he seeing them not contented with plain answers but seeking to wrest words out of him to their own purpose in meeknesse uttered these words How soon have you forgot the work of the Bishops who are now found in the same seeking to ensnare the innocent Whereupon they rose up and with bitterness of spirit burnt all that they had before written And so left him with some bemoaning expressions rather discovering a prejudiced spirit then real affection to the good of his soul So when they were departing he desired of them as he had also done before that the Parliament would send him such Questions in writing as they desired satisfaction in and give him leave to return his Answers in writing also These as near as I can remember he told me with some other passages which I do not well remember And hoping the whole passages of that meeting will be publisht by the parties themselves upon consideration of what is before mentioned I humbly premise these Queries following touching the Case of the said Naylor 1. Whether rationally those men in that their proceeding can be adjudged lovers of his Soul or that act tending to the good thereof or not rather wholly prejudiced and intending to say snares before him 2. Whether any Nation afford the like President that four or five persons a mans enemies should be his examiners and solely impower'd to report his Case to his Judges not admitting any to be present but themselves as indifferent witnesses betwixt them If four or five of those Silver-smiths that made shrines for Diana whose gain Pauls doctrine destroyed If they had been sent to Paul to examine him and report his Case to his Judges how unequal a thing would this be accounted 3. Whether the verbal report of those persons or if written it being done after they departed from him ought to be received or credited as a true testimony when they have burnt their Examinations his Answers written while they were together● not admitting them to be seen as they were first signed 4. Whether it were not a very reasonable desire of James Naylor's as the case ●ood that Questions might be sent him in writing from the Parliament and he might have liberty to return his Answers in writing for the avoiding of misinterpretation of his adversaries FINIS