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A86648	The common salvation contended for, and the faith which was once delivered to the saints· Or, An answer to a book called a plain answer to eighteen queries of Iohn Whitehead, put forth by William Kays, who calls himself minister of the Gospel at Stokesly; wherein he hath perverted the faith once delivered to the saints, and pleads for those things which the Scripture declares against, and so he is made manifest, not to be a minister of the everlasting Gospel, but preachesanother [sic] Gospel. The queries laid down, and the substance of his answer, with a reply to his answer. / By one who is a friend to all, who wait for the appearance of Iesus Christ without sin to salvation, known to the world by the name. Francis Howgill.	Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.	1655 (1655)	Wing H3155; Thomason E824_3; ESTC R18577	18,636	20

was truth and no lie and it guided them into all truth and here thou wouldst divide the Spirit of Christ from the Saints and here thy spirit is made manifest not to be that spirit which was in the Saints and which was in Christ but thy spirit is fallible that saith that infallible spirit disgraces the Ministery such a Minister thou art that a fallible spirit and a spirit of error is thy glory and therefore I say that spirit is not distinct from the Saints which was in Christ but one there is one spirit by which all the Ministers of Christ were guided and they were Ministers of the Spirit which was infallible and true and eternal and bore witness of him who was true and eternal and thou calst this a Popish tenent art raised out and judged by the Scripture not to have the same and so art no Minister nor witness of the infallible eternal spirit but speaks in thy own name And thou art accusing Iohn that he did wander as Iohn did in the Revelation thou saith and so would make Iohn a wandering star like thy self which Iude speaks of who art fallen into the earth out of the firmament and so would bring reproach upon him who witnessed the Spirit and was in the spirit and dwelt in it but thy shame is made manifest and now the eternal spirit is witnessed which is infallible and they will receive thy doctrine no longer for it is not wholsome but contrary to the Scripture II. Query Whether thou know the rules of Christ and whether thou wert immediately called by him to be a Minister or Pastor of the Gospel yea or no Answ. Thou saith so often as thou hast the word rightly divided in opening of the same in any Chapter or verse so often thou hast heard the the voice of Christ and thou sayest thou dost not deny the reaching of the spirit to be an extraordinary voice of Christ and that thou hast heard and so thou witnesses an immediate call and yet thou sayest our imperfect actions being made perfect by Christ thou witnesses an immediate call Reply Thou that tells of opening Chapters or Verses by meanings thou never heard the word of Christ and I say unto thee as Christ said to the Pharisees which had Moses and the Prophets they had neither heard his voice nor seen his shape and they which have not the word abiding in them never heard his word and therefore if thou never hear of God or from Christ but what is written without thee thou never yet heard his Word the Word of God endures for ever Chapters and Verses endures not for ever but thou art made manifest when thou canst not hear what is already writ nor receive it nor understand it without meanings and therefore brings their words down to thy reason and cals that the Word of God and thou calst the teachings of the spirit the extraordinary voice of Christ where reads thou in the Scripture of an ordinary and extraordinary voice of the spirit and here be a witness against thy self in thy answer to the fourth Query the fourth page of thy book to say thou had not known the spirit nor the anointing but by the Scripture and the Scripture is not the spirit and here thy immediate call is the like that which is visible and without thee is not immediate and here thou art tryed that thou knowest nothing at all but by hearsay and so thou art a falle witness and thou saith our imperfect actions are made perfect by Christ when that which is perfect is come imperfection is done away but that which thou calls thy imperfect actions he comes not to be perfect but to destroy but to thee is a mystery III. Query Whether the Word thou preachest is the same from the beginning which thou hast heard and seen and hast been taught immediately by the Revelation of Iesus Christ yea or no Answ. The Word that thou preaches is so muth the same thou saith from the beginning as a River is the same that runs continually from the fountain and as God is pleased to appear in his outward administrators Reply He who is the fountain is eternal which was in the beginning and before all things and endures for ever and they who witness him preach him and have seen him and tasted of the water of life which they were witness of Iohn the first but the River which thou drinkest is as the brooks of Teman spoken of in Iob and shall be dried up and as Euphrates that shall be dried up and the Kings of the East shall pass over it and the time is come already blessed be the Lord for ever but thy fountain at the best is but the letter without thee that was since the beginning and thy old Authors and thy carnal wisdom which is in the curse and this is thy highest attainments and thy administrations if thou hadst not had the letter without thee thou hadst not known such a thing and then where had all thy preaching been as in the fourth page of thy book thou mayest remember that thou saidst thou hadst not known God but by that others have left upon record and therefore cease from thy divining for thou canst not witness what thou speakest but as thou stealest others words IV. Query Whether ever any shall grow up under thy Ministery that they shall that no man teach them and whether thou own the anointing or had known there had been such a thing if the Scripture had not spoken of it yea or no Answ. Concerning thy Ministery there is no such promise thou sayest made to any mans Ministery Reply Here thou hast manifested thy Ignorance of the Ministery of Christ for they turned many from darkness to light and from Satan unto God and it was and is the very end wherefore the Ministers was sent forth for the perfecting of the Saints and to lead them from imperfection to persection and a perfect man in Christ Iesus and they were sent out for this end and are now sent out to direct all minds and the Apostle laboured and travelled that he might present them without spot or wrinkle unto God and in that thou saith there is no promise to the Ministry of man in that thou sayest truly but they which were Ministers of the Gospel they neither were learned of man nor had it from man and so thou acknowledgest thy Ministry to be of man and so art not a Minister of Christ but of Anti-christ and thou saith if the anointing should onely teach there would be no flock here thou art blind and knows nothing is not Christ the anointing and Christs sheep hear his voice and he putteth them forth and goeth before them and he leadeth his flock like a shepheard but thou that preaches for hire and divinest for money and they that follow thee are not of this flock and as concerning thy knowledge of the anointing thou saith thou mayest say as Paul said of

The common SALVATION CONTENDED FOR And the Faith which was once delivered TO THE SAINTS OR An Answer to a Book called a plain answer to eighteen Queries of Iohn Whitehead put forth by William Kays who calls himself Minister of the Gospel at Stokesly Wherein he hath perverted the faith once delivered to the Saints and pleads for those things which the Scripture declares against and so he is made manifest not to be a Minister of the everlasting Gospel but preaches another Gospel The Queries laid down and the substance of his Answer with a Reply to his Answer By one who is a friend to all who wait for the appearance of Iesus Christ without sin to salvation known to the world by the name FRANCIS HOWOILL LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert and are to be sold at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West-end of Pauls The common SALVATION CONTENDED FOR And the faith which was once delivered TO THE SAINTS FIrst as to the Title of thy Book thy plain answer as thou calst it thou art plainly made manifest to be among the false Prophets and the Scribes and Pharises and the false Brethren which the Lord sent his true Prophets to bear witness against and which Christ cryed wo against and the Apostles exhorted them who were in the faith to turn away from and art one that is gone out into the world separated from the light from the life from the practice of all the holy men of God who spoke forth the Scripture as they were moved by the holy Ghost had they declared against all these things that thou art pleading for like Demetrius and yet thou wilt tell of the Scripture being thy rule thy rule shall try thee and thou shalt be laid to it and it will condemn thee and the life of all the Saints and the practice of them who dwelt in the light will bear witness against thee thy hidden mysteries which thou speakst are seen by the invisible eye of God and thy deceit and thy adding to the Scriptures and thy perverting of Christs words and thy imaginations upon their words who dwelt in the light and one day thou shalt witness the Lord who is just will plead with thee for it when by thy serpents wisdom which is in the curse and in the disobedience and thou pleadst expresly against Christs own words and holdst up the types which was in the first Covenant and yet wilt not act according to the first Covenant and so art one that denyes Christ the substance the everlasting Covenant the oath of God and yet calls thy self a Minister of the Gospel thy Gospel he and all that knows his voice will deny thee and it who teaches for doctrine the traditions of men and sets up an image of many mixtures that all may fall down and worship which thou hast built and set up in thy sensual carnal wisdom and would have all to worship the image of the beast that sits upon many wa●ers but the Lord i● risen to cut it down and stamp upon it and grind it to dust and the whirlwind of the Lord shall blow it away and thou and all who hath worshipped the Beast shall be broken by him who is set for the rise and fall of many in Israel and all those things that thou hast set up in thy carnal mind and calls them the Ordinances of God shall become as the broth of abominable things and as the slaying of a man and all who worship their own imaginations both the circumcised and the uncircumcised will the Lord cut off together for the Lord is arisen to plead with all the enemies of Zion and his sword shall be fatted with the blood of the slain for prophaness is gone forth from the Teachers of this Nation who abide not in the doctrine of Christ to the ends and costs thereof and the Lord is grieved and the earth shall disclose her blood and the slain shall no longer be covered but the deceiver of the Nations shall be cast forth and great shall be the lamentation of the Merchants of Babylon and Iesabel that hath slain Prophets now is suffered to prophesie and many are deceived by her witchcrafts but she shall be cast into a bed of sorrow and she shall be dashed in pieces and the dogs shall lick her blood for behold he is risen who is King of Kings and he makes war in righteousness and his name is called the Word of God and out of his mouth proceeds fire that shall consume the men of the earth and all who have not the Image of the Father written in their foreheads The fire is kindled already in the earth and the slain is great and many shall gnaw their tongues for pain and shall be consumed to ashes and he will plead with all the false Prophets and Merchants in Babylou as in the valey of Iehosaphet and his wrath is kindled as in the days of Gibin and the Heathen shall all perish by the edge of the sword lamentation and howling and wo and sorrow and bitterness shall come upon all who have professed his name and his words and yet put him to open shame and denies the end of his coming which is to redeem his people from their sins and to present them unto God without spot or wrinkle which many in this generation teachers and people are pleading for sin and yet say Christ is made manifest but this answer all such shall have depart workers of iniquity I. Query Whether thou have the same eternal infallible spirit that gave forth the Scripture yea or no Answ. Thou saith thou darest not conceal to bear witness with thy conscience that thou hast in some small measure the same spirit which was in the Saints yet an infallible spirit thou canst not own and calst it a Popish tenent and thou saith Christ had such a spirit that did not erre and further thou saith if any Minister as Iohn in the Revelation shall wander yet the Lord can is he hath a mercy unto his people make the people to receive nothing but wholsome doctrine Reply Here thou hast made thy self manifest unto all that thou hast no measure of the spirit neither great nor small not of the same spirit which was in the Saints for the spirit which the Saints had was the spirit of Christ which is the spirit of truth and infallible and led them into all truth and this Spirit thou blasphemer calls a Popish tenent and so accuses Christ and the Saints Was it one spirit which dwelt in the Saints and another spirit that Christ had and here thou speakst contrary to the Scripture as many as are the Sons of God are led by the Spirit of God and they that have not the Spirit of Christ are none of his and all who walked in the spirit and were led by the spirit were led out of pollution and the lust of the flesh and out of error and out of all deceit and they had received the anointing which

sins is of the Devil not that the Devil can claim him for his or that he is in the possession of the Devil for your gift is of Balaams nature and not of the nature of Pauls and so your reward will be as Balaams and not as Pauls who inherits the everlasting treasure for ever And further thou sayest but as to the point of taking Tythes which in respect of darkness and prejudice some Saints are herein unsatisfied and thou sayest we understand not our selves in judging from the Apostles example except we could prove by Scripture that the Apostles might have had Tythes or those Ministers which were like Timothy and Titus settled in a parochial way in their quarters might have had Tythes given them and yet refused them Reply They which are satisfied that they are Ministers of Christ which takes Tythes are indeed in darkness as thou speaks and unto all that fear God taking of ●ythes whether in paying or receiving will be prejudice and be it known unto thee and unto all such that we do understand our selves in judging thee and all such to be Antichrists and deceivers and false Prophets who acts and upholds those things which the deceivers and false Prophets acted in former generations and in seeking for your gain from your Quarter and in making merchandise of people through covetousness you make it manifest that you are such and so in the light which was in the Prophets and in the Apostles we see you and by it we judge you and by the example of the Apostles you may all be condemned who never took Tythes nor sought for their gain from their Quarter nor made merchandise of any through covetousness as you do and we tell thee plainly it is as true as the Scripture for by the same Spirit we speak that none of the Ministers of Christ nor his Apostle did take Tythes or wages of the world for preaching and this we can prove by the Scripture that the Apostles refused to take that which they might have had which was offered unto them and herein they shall judge you who not onely takes what men give you willing but compels some to pay against their will and that Timothy or Titus or any of the ministers of Iesus Christ was never settled in a parochial way in Quarters we do deny it and doth charge it upon thee to be a false accuser and a slanderer and a lyar upon Timothy and Titus and would make them as bad as thy self and the rest of the false Prophets and here let thy own conscience condemn thee for believing the holy men of God and speaking that of them which they were not to cloak and uphold thy own deceits abominations further thou sayest till then the light of the Apostles that took whatsoever was given them satisfies thy conscience to praise God for the Magistrate that doth freely give it unto thee and then brings the Apostles words they that preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel Reply The light in which the Apostles lived by which they were acted will for ever condemn thee except thou repent for by their example thou art judged already as it is manifested thy conscience is blinded by the god of the world and not satisfied by the light of Christ which was in the Apostles for if the light of the Apostles acted thee then would thou be found in their steps but be witness against thy self that thou art acted by that spirit which acted the false Prophets and false Apostles being thou art found in the same steps making merchandise of people and preaching for hire as they did which of the Apostles had any Law from any Magistrate to compel men to pay Tythes to them shew this by the Scripture if thou canst or else be a witness against thy self that thou lives not upon the Gospel For I know if you had not a Law to compel men to maintain you the Gospel which you preach and the people to whom you preach would starve you for maintenance this Scripture we own and do witness they that preach the Gospel shall live of the Gospel and doth without running to Magistrates to receive order from them to compel men to pay them XVI Query Shew me by the Scripture where ever any of the Ministers of Christ did give Davids Psalms to be sung of the people in a rime and if not thou acknowledgest that thou art in the inventions and traditions of men raised out from them all Answ. In thy answer unto this Query thou brings many Scriptures to prove singing some of which doth not at all prove any singing and none of them will prove the singing which thou pleads for which is a great company of proud and covetous and earthly minded persons to sing Davids words which they cannot witness but are enemies to the life of what he spoke for the world cannot sing praises unto God but you by your traditions cause men to sing lies that they are not puft in mind and that the Law of God is dear unto them and that every night water they their bed with tears when as they never witnessed these things though all this was true in David and as for that Scripture 2 Chron 29. where it was commanded of the Priests to sing the words of David and Asaph this was under the Law a figure as the Priests was a figure and from that Scripture you may as well prove the offering of sacrifice as singing but thou makes manifest thy ignorance and blindness hereby unto all the simple and many other Scriptures thou brings and the example of Christ and his Disciples and the example of the Churches which will not at all prove the singing of your assemblies which is onely by tradition and invention we do deny and bear testimony against it that it is not the singing to the praise of God but God is dishonoured by it and it shall all be turned into howling and bitterness and the time is at hand wherein the Iudgements of God shall be revealed against it for in the eternal light it is discovered to be abomination unto God and instead of singing you shall howle and lament the Lord hath said it and a great deal more rabble of stuff thou hast written to prove thy deceitful practice which I forbear to answer as not worth naming XVII Query Whether that wo which Christ pronounced against the Pharisees who were called of men Masters had the ceief place in the Assemblies and stood praying in the Synagogues do not abide upon thee who art called of men Masters hast the chief seat in the Assemblies stands praying in the Synagogue or how wilt thou justifie thy self in these practices seeing Christ is the same yesterday to day and for ever who cryed woe against them that lived in them Answ. Thou sayest thou doth not feare the woes pronounced against the Pharilees Reply It is because thy heart is hardened and thy mind is stiffnecked and rebellious

an hypocrite but thou judges out of thy corrupt imaginations and he will judge thee for it and thou saith thou in charity ought to judge me to contend for the faith and in thy answer to Iohn Whites conclusion thou says he Pope like commands thee to answer and further thou saith he required thee in his one name what confusion thou lies in and forgets what thou speaks thy heart is so full of deceit and thou further saith he ought to abound in charity to think no evil and to die to all causless jealousies and contempt against professors thou would not have deceit judged nei●her in thy self nor others but would build up and be daubed with untempered morter and it is beyond jealousies that we have of thee and all profession that stands in that nature when your profession is contrary to the doctrine of Christ and now possess not what you speak and therefore makes hypocrites by your preaching and to profess that which they possess not And in thy conclusion thou saith Iohn Whitehead let me tell thee plainly that thy words being far from the meek spirit of the Apostles I beseech you brethren Reply The Apostle never said I beseech you brethren to such as thou art who acts those things that he declared against and suffered by thy generation as we do now hailing mocking buffeting and thou that art joyned to a harlot would thou be called a Brother and thou saith thou should not have answered these Queris if it had not been to answer the command of God and the teaching of the Spirit the command of God thou never knew who art pleading against Christs commands and the Spirit thou knows nothing of who confessed in the fourth page of thy book who confessed thou knew nothing but by the Scripture and the Scripture is not the Spirit and here let all judge of thy blindness and thou saith thou hast answered without adding or diminishing the Scripture let all thy writing be a witness against thee in thy answer to the twelfth Query and in thy conclusion thou sayes thou would not draw arguments from and fetch guns out of a castle to turn them against the same place this shall stand for thy self and let all judge whether thou have not fetched arguments and Scriptures to uphold thy trade of divination and hath pleaded against Christs own commands and sets one Scripture against another and thou would have distinctions to stand because the holy Ghost saith this he spoke concerning the Temple of his body but where is that Scripture that saith this was said not of the material Temple that is thy own word and so thou cannot but twine and wrest and pervert for if thou did not the whole Scripture would bear witness against thee and thou art accusing that thou heard him press casting off ordinances we know what thou calls ordinances even beggerly rudiments sprinkling Infants singing others condition and when you read puts them on and when you sing puts them off and standing praying in the Synagogue and would accuse Christ as thou hast done in thy answer to the seventeenth Query and coming to an Idols Temple and hear thee speak an hour or two what thou hast raised up by thy imagination from the Scripture all the week and then cry hear the Word of the Lord and these and such like are your ordinances but God will plead with thee and all that offer strange fire and all your sacrifice God is weary of and therefore cease to pervert the way of the Lord lest thou be cut off within thy gainsaying and perish with the uncircumcised FINIS

sin he had not known sin but by the Law so thou hadst not known the anointing had not he Scriptures declared it and thou sayest without it there is nothing to be known here thou blind guide thou puts the Scriptures in the room of God and wouldst exalt it above God and hast made thy folly manifest that thou never knew the anointing but by hearsay and if thou hast not had their words who witnessed the anointing in themselves thou hadst not known whether there had been such a thing and thou that knows nothing but without thee knows nothing at all and yet the Scripture is able to make wise unto salvation and perfect the man of God through faith in Christ Iesus but of the man of Gods estate thou knowest nothing of who art pleading and holding up those things which the men of God witnessed against V. Query Whether thou own Christ to be the light of the world and hath enlightned every one yea or no VI Query Whether thou own the word of Iohn 1. 9. where he witnessed Christ to be the true light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world Answ. Thou saith thou thinkst it s not amiss to declare that Christ is not onely the light of the world through Revelation but in works of miracles and meritorious sufferings and as he gives to all creatures the light in their Creation Reply Thy thoughts are vain and not as Gods thoughts he is but one who is the light of the world and in him is no darkness at all the light is but one and the same light in which he lives the same light the Saints lives in who are guided by him who is the light and the light is but one in him that loves it and in him that hates it the one he loves it and the other he hates it and thou that art making distinctions of the light art divided from the light and so makes many lights by thy imaginations and so perverts the Scripture And where readst thou of meritorious suffering of Christ in the Scripture nay thou art so ignorant of him who is the true light and hath not so much as a form of sound words and where reads thou of such a distinction of natural and spiritual light in Christ thy rule shall try thee and thou shalt be judged by it for in thy serpents wisdome thou wouldst darken the counsel of God and rent the Scripture in pieces by thy imaginations and thou never knewst what the light of Christ was and never shall comprehend it with all thy distinctions and though the world is in darkness yet the light shines in darkness but this is a mystery and sealed to thee and therefore thou wouldst give thy meanings upon their words who were in the light VII Query Whether it is not blasphemy to call the true light of Christ which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world a natural light and whether they do not deny the Scriptures that say that every one is not enlightned with the true light yea or no Answ. Is light by just consequence and not otherwise called naturall so the light may be called supernatural which is properly called Christs light and thou tells of ordinary lights Reply Thy consequences are denyed thou art in the Philosophy and vain deceits where reads thou in Scripture of a natural and supernatural light and where reads thou that the light which is in every creature is ordinary light and ●● thou goe●t on to prove that there is two lights in Christ and that the light of Christ is natural and spiritual and so would make two Christs is Christ spiritual and is that which is his light natural a natural man understands not the things of God but the light which comes from Christ which is but one not divided but is spiritual it leads to an understanding of the things of God and that which may be known of God is revealed in man but thou art ignorant and blind and cannot comprehend it that which is natural is carnal and so thou wouldst make a carnal Christ as one like thy self affirmed who called himself a Minister of Christ but he that loves the light is led up out of darkness to the light of life and he that hates the light it s his condemnation and he is but one that judges and saves his people from their sin and in the last part of thy answer thou sayest thou acknowledgest the light of the Law of Christ to be more or less in the light of nature here again thy ignorance is made manifest Paul said the Law was spiritual and the Law of the spirit of life in Iesus had freed him from the Law of sin and death was that natural is Christ spiritual and his Law natural for shame be silent and speak not of the Law it is holy is that natural and thou speaks of putting the light of Christ under a bushel and some that destroy Christs light thou blind Pharisee thou art he that puts the light of Christ under a bushel that walks in those things and pleads for those things which they declared against and thou art he that goes about to destroy Christs light which is pure and eternal and calst it natural and supernatural when the light is but one and thou that wouldst divide the light art divided from it and walks not by it and so art in darkness till now and thou saith further that as Christ is pleased he can by the preaching of the Gospel open thine eyes and turn them from darkness to light here again thy shame and thy nakedness appears hast thou professed thy self a Minister of the Gospel and a teacher and are thy eyes unopened yetart thou yet unturned from darkness unto light then darkness speaks and wrote the book and darkness cannot comprehend the light and wouldst thou be judging of the light and of Christ that is yet in darkness for shame own thy condemnation for what thou hast done in speaking in the name of the Lord he accepts no such testimony nor the testimony of them that walk in darkness and not in the light and he will judge thee who is the light for perverting the truth in thy dark mind and thou confesseth that thou art blind and thine eyes are not yet opened then how canst thou declare of him whom thou hast neither seen nor heard and here be a witness against thyself VIII Query Whether the true light of Christ which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world which discovereth all the deeds of darkness is not sufficient to lead all those that love and follow him into holiness and all truth seeing Christ who is the light saith that those that follow him shall not abide in darkness but have the light of life Answ. To this thou answers Yea it is when it is revealed and in thy answer to the third Query thou saith there is nothing that can be known but by the Scriptures and so here