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A37064 A demonstration of the necessity of settling some Gospel-government amongst the churches of Christ in this nation held forth in an answer to a querie whereby Mr. Saltmarch did once endeavour to hinder the settlement of all church-government in the nation : written in the year 1646, and now published for the present use of these times, wherein it may be seasonable to be taken into consideration for the preventing of further confusion and disorder amongst the professors of the Gospell / by John Dury. Dury, John, 1596-1680.; Hartlib, Samuel, d. 1662. 1654 (1654) Wing D2851; ESTC R24917 50,485 74

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