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A56191 A pleasant purge for a Roman Catholike to evacuate his evill humours consisting of a century of polemicall epigrams, wherein divers grosse errors and corruptions of the Church of Rome are discovered, censured, refuted, in a facetious yet serious manner / by William Prynne ... Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1642 (1642) Wing P4038; ESTC R5059 135,316 198

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it both who thinke that she And God too by your Aves worshipt be Yet Mary more than God since that you all Your Offices Houres Psalters Masse-bookes call Not Gods but Maries so that you adore Serve her onely now at least-wise her more By farre than God Christ since your bookes thus beare Her name and title not theirs as is cleare By your new Printed Masse-bookes which stil'd be In all their Titles Fronts as you may see Our Ladies Psalters Primers Offices Houres Rosaries and such like This Aves Use hath in time produced you to Make Her Servants and Devoti who forsake God Christ the Holy Ghost and Trinity Adoring none for God but her onely She is Romes Goddesse God Father Son Sp'rite Trinity Mother and none else of Right The Stateliest Churches Altars Images Most Monkes Nunnes Orders all Houres Offices Bookes of Devotion are hers beare her Name And all Grace Pardon comes from this blest Dame As Rome Avers now This Aves have wrought Beyond contrary to the Angels thought And Maries too who by them hath undone Ungodded both the Father and the Sonne On and against Popish Beades and Pater-Nosters oft Repetition on them I Wonder much why Papists on Bedes pray And all their Pater-Nosters by them say Is it because they set them out to sale And none will buy them by their weight but Tale As they doe wodden Billets and therefore They must have Beades to keepe true Count and score If so it seemes a just and Lawfull Act Though to sell Prayers be no Christian Fact Or is it because they contract each day With God how many Paters they will say To him and so their Bedes serve to keepe true Account that God from them may have his due So many Pater-Nosters just as they By Contract vow or pennance ought to pay This seemes an honest Practise and most just To render God his due yet then they must First prove that God takes all their prayers by Tale Not weight but this would marre their price and sale Their Paters are so light that God must take Them all by Tale sith they no weight will make For should he ballance them their endlesse tale Of Paters would not Poyse nor turne the Scale Bedes then keepe equall Scores 'twixt God and them God would forget else what they pay to him He is oblivious if not false therefore They dare not trust him they must keepe the score Or else they deeme he mindes no more than they Their mumbled Paters else they would not pray By Count I doubt they cheate God in the Score Sometimes to make him minde their Paters more Or doe they use their Bedes alone to finde That tale of Paters which they seldome minde Their thoughts being else-where when their Pater's sayd The Bedes must tell them still how oft they pray'd Their Paters sure are sayd with great devotion They doe not know their summe but by Bedes Motion Should God them take by weight than not by Count So many feathers would their poyse surmount I doubt their Beades though light will overweigh All Paters Aves which they on them say And are far more worth were they to be sold Than all the Paters Aves on them told But why must Paters thus be said by score Did Christs Apostles Prophets Saints before Time use it No reade Scripture new or old You finde no Paters Prayers on Beades told Some thinke our Bede these Beads did first invent From whom they tooke their Name if I consent Though false yet for sev'n hundred yeares or more Next after Christ none Paters by Beades score Said now the Case is alt'red few can say Their Paters unlesse they on Beades them pray Pray on them No let him marke who this reads They never use to pray but say their Beads This is their Proper language so as they Confesse their Beades helpe make them not to pray To say indeede nay use vaine Repetition Against the Paters and Christs Prohibition Who first ordain'd the Pater purposely Vaine Babling and your Bedes quite to put by Which Christ condemnes as Heathnish and defends All his to use because it God offends But Chaplets now this remedie hath mar'd And made it the disease it should discard Some scores of Pater Nosters must be said On Beades ere God can heare minde what they praide He 's growne now deafe belike and cannot heare Their first next third fourth Pater or they feare He is asleepe or dreaming so that he With peales of Paters must awaked be Or with their Beads great ratling sound and noise Ere he can heare or listen to their voyce If he heares the first dozen Paters all The next are Idle Bootelesse Prodigall Yea a grosse taking of Gods Name in vaine Which if it merits ought it s nought but paine Such Idle Babble and Battologie God doth condemne reject hate and defie Especially when they kneele downe before Saints Images and say their Paters o're To them as if they God the Father were And did their Beades and babled Paters heare Which damned common practise Rome allow's In her Trent Catechisme not disavou's Yea Hubberdin with others long agoe Maintain'd that they might Pater Nosters to S. Peter say and other Saints full well Without offence and George Douly doth tell Us now of late in his Instruction Of the chiefe points of your Religion That doubtlesse men may say the Pater or The Ave Marie unto the honour Or Invocation of any other Saint or Angell with this intent either To pray to God that he would have mercy Vpon their soules for this Saints Angels Cry Or to craze of the Saints themselves that they Will offer to God for them what they pray A new point of faith and devotion Not knowne to Christ but to Romes Priests alone Had Papists sense or Reason they might see How oft repeated Pater Nosters be Most irkesome loathsome to God not pleasing For if men here should to a Judge Lord King Ten twenty thirty Forty times or more Together the same words requests say o're As they to God say Paters all would thinke Them mad or foolish yea their suites would stinke And be denide for this their Clam'rous cry Thougst Just since mar'd by such Battologie If it be folly frenzie babling then Oft to repeate our suites and plaints to men Yea the next way to make them us deny Is it not just the same to God to cry Thus Pater Pater for an houre or more Untill your Beades be fully numbred ore Doubtlesse it is nay a meere mockery Of God who turnes his eares from this vaine cry All deeme the Cuckoos which doe oft times sing Nought else but Cuckoo Cuckoo in the spring For three Moneths space most foolish birds because They oft repeate their Cuckoo without pause And we thinke children fooles the Cuckooes play In counting then how oft they Cuckoo say Papists are worse than Cuckooes which forbeare Their Cuckooes song for nine