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A14057
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A new dialogue vvherin is conteyned the examinatio[n] of the messe and of that kynde of priesthode, whych is ordeined to saye messe: and to offer vp for remyssyon of synne, the body and bloud of Christe agayne.
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Turner, William, d. 1568.
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STC 24363; ESTC S108032
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be_v of_o god_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o obey_v they_o in_o that_o case_n thus_o much_o have_v we_o get_v of_o you_o by_o your_o own_fw-mi confession_n now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o we_o can_v win_v of_o you_o by_o the_o scripture_n we_o grant_v unto_o you_o that_o we_o must_v obey_v the_o commandment_n of_o the_o politic_a father_n so_o far_o as_o he_o keep_v himself_o with_o in_o his_o bound_n that_o be_v in_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n or_o be_v profitable_a for_o the_o common_a welthe_n and_o not_o contrary_a unto_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o if_o he_o will_v go_v beyond_o his_o bound_n that_o be_v if_o he_o will_v command_v man_n to_o believe_v that_o thing_n to_o be_v a_o worshyp_a of_o god_n which_o be_v either_o unspoken_a of_o in_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n or_o contrary_a unto_o he_o same_o word_n or_o if_o he_o shall_v forbid_v this_o word_n or_o any_o part_n of_o it_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o obey_v he_o in_o this_o case_n my_o auctoris_fw-la saint_n paul_n which_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o galathians_n say_v if_o that_o i_o or_o a_o angel_n of_o heaven_n do_v show_v any_o gospel_n beside_o it_o that_o i_o have_v show_v you_o accurse_a be_v he_o &_o excummunicate_v from_o god_n and_o the_o same_o he_o say_v unto_o the_o corinthian_n that_o that_o i_o have_v receyve_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o i_o have_v deliver_v unto_o you_o and_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o galathians_n he_o say_v that_o he_o receyve_v the_o gospel_n which_o he_o have_v preach_v not_o of_o any_o man_n but_o by_o the_o revelation_n of_o jesus_n christ_n then_o the_o meaning_a of_o saint_n paul_n be_v that_o he_o will_v that_o even_o his_o own_fw-mi self_n or_o a_o angel_n of_o heaven_n shall_v be_v accurse_v if_o either_o of_o they_o shall_v teach_v or_o command_v to_o believe_v any_o doctrine_n that_o he_o have_v not_o receyve_v of_o christ_n whereof_o i_o gather_v that_o all_o magistrate_n which_o command_v to_o be_v teach_v &_o beleve_v any_o doctrine_n of_o gladtydynge_n which_o they_o have_v not_o receyve_v of_o christ_n that_o they_o be_v accurse_v by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faint_a paul_n daniel_n obey_v his_o king_n so_o long_o as_o he_o command_v he_o not_o to_o do_v any_o thing_n against_o god_n commandment_n but_o when_o his_o master_n will_v have_v have_v he_o to_o have_v worship_v bel_n &_o the_o dragon_n he_o will_v not_o obey_v he_o the_o iii_o israelites_n obey_v king_n nabuchodonosor_n in_o all_o thing_n that_o perteyn_v unto_o a_o king_n to_o require_v but_o when_o the_o king_n go_v beyond_o his_o bound_n and_o will_v have_v have_v they_o to_o have_v worshyp_v his_o image_n they_o will_v no_o long_o obey_v their_o polytike_a father_n the_o aopstle_n also_o in_o civil_a matter_n obey_v the_o magistrate_n and_o pay_v tribute_n but_o when_o the_o ruler_n forbid_v the_o apostle_n to_o preach_v any_o more_o in_o christ_n name_n they_o will_v not_o obey_v thyr_n commandment_n but_o say_v melius_fw-la est_fw-la obedire_fw-la deo_fw-la ê™_n hominibus_fw-la it_o be_v better_a to_o obey_v god_n than_o man_n by_o these_o place_n you_o may_v see_v plain_o that_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o obey_v the_o magistrate_n if_o they_o command_v we_o to_o believe_v any_o thing_n or_o do_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v contrary_a unto_o scripture_n but_o the_o mess_n be_v contrary_a unto_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o though_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v command_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v of_o god_n we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o in_o this_o case_n obey_v they_o howbeit_o in_o other_o case_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o obey_v they_o in_o pain_n of_o damnation_n for_o he_o that_o resist_v they_o in_o any_o such_o matter_n as_o they_o have_v auctorite_n of_o commandment_n over_o resy_v god_n and_o so_o purchass_v himself_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n porphi_fw-la he_o that_o be_v not_o against_o i_o be_v with_o i_o say_v christ_n but_o the_o mess_n for_o all_o your_o saiing_n be_v not_o 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