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A69250 Newes from France containing tvvo declarations of two new conuerts from the Church of Rome to the reformed churches of France: the former made by Master M. du Tertrf [sic], Lord de la Motthe Luyne, late preacher amongst the order of the Capucins vnder the name of F. Firmin, &c. at Saumur on the 27. of May last: the latter by the Marquise Boniuet, Lord of Creuecœur, &c. at Rochell on the seuenth of August last. Both translated out of the seuerall French copies into English by E.M. of Christ-Church in Oxford. Whereunto is added an English letter sent from Paris by an English gentleman to his friend in England, touching the late surprisall and imprisonment of the Prince of Conde, which happened on the 22. of August last.; Declaration and manifestation, of the chiefe reasons and motives of the conversion of Master M. du Tertre, Lord de la Motthe Luyne. Bonnivet, Henri Marc de Gouffier, Marquis de, d. 1589. Declaration de Henri-Marc de Gouffier. aut; Meetkerke, Edward, 1590-1657, attributed name. 1616 (1616) STC 7372; ESTC S117179 43,123 84

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bitternesse for the loue of our Sauiour who saith S. Paul when he could and it was free vnto him to stay aboue in heauen in the same glory felicitie and happinesse with his Father waited on and adored by the highest Spirits and Angelicall powers not only abased and emptied himselfe humbling himselfe so farre as to cloath himselfe with the weaknesse and infirmitie of our nature and to take vpon him the forme of a seruant and slaue yea enen was resolued willingly to suffer and endure the infamous and painfull death and punishment of the Crosse and indeede endured it without hauing any regard or caring at all for the shame ignominie confusion and reproach which was to ensue thereupon it being enough to him that it was for our sakes to deliuer and enfranchise vs from the power of the deuill sinne and hell and to bring vs againe into fauour with his eternall Father and into the possession of the kingdome of heauen lost by the sinne and offence of our parents Adde hereunto that which himselfe saith The Disciple is not aboue his master nor the seruant aboue his Lord. If they haue called the master of the house Beelsebub how much more them of the houshold If they haue persecuted me how much more will they persecute you also He that loueth father or mother more then me is not worthy of me He that taketh not his Crosse and followeth me is not worthy of me He that loueth his soule shall lose it and he that hateth it in this life for my sake shall keepe it in the life euerlasting And if it were so as thankes be to God it is not that I should be vncertaine and ignorant of what I owe to my conscience in this behalfe I would then striue to couer againe and hide my straying with excuses and repentances which I am sure would not be denied me but rather would be receiued willingly and with all kinde of ioy contentment and cheerefulnesse with open both armes and hearts as it hath beene sufficiently testified vnto mee by those instant searches affectionate pursuits and truly charitable offers and I cannot but acknowledge and confesse it ingenuously at the least if their intent were answerable to their words which those of that state and condition haue vsed and often reiterated vnto me both by themselues and by third persons interposed What doe I then And by your fauour I doe pray you you which take the paines and the patience to reade these draughts of my penne or rather of my soule to thinke on mee with as much attention as I my selfe haue thought of it and to weigh my reasons with the iust balance of reason it selfe and then I am certaine and assured that you will iudge and finde me as farre from hastinesse precipitation inconstancie inconsideratenesse of minde and other such like things which many amongst you yea it may be your selues doe obiect vnto me and reproach me withall as I am neere to the truth My change and my departure doe seeme strange to you I desire it I can doe nothing in it much lesse hinder and stop the readinesse of your mindes But if it please you to stay a while with mee I shall it may be make this change more familiar vnto you For it first of all it be strange vnto you because that euery alteration and change of religion is simply so of it selfe and that we ought to end in that wherein we haue begun what then I pray will become of those among the Iewes Turkes the men of Iapan of Margaia and other barbarous and strange nations which haue changed and daily doe change their owne religion and that of their fathers in the which they had beene nurtured and brought vp for to make themselues Christians to wed themselues to the law and faith of our Sauiour and to professe his religion If it be because that more particularly and specially it is ill done to depart from your company you might haue right therein if you or your Doctors could enlighten or ease me in this doubt But I thinke that you and they would be troubled as much to doe that as to proue shew and make it plaine vnto me that yours is more worth and truer then that which I haue embraced the which notwithstanding would be wholly and altogether requisite and necessary to that proofe From whence then you will say vnto me commeth this so sudden a change From the speciall and singular grace of God and from the particular knowledge which it hath pleased his goodnesse to giue me for to depart from the disorders abuses and errours of your Church as well in matter of faith and doctrine as of manners It is very long since I began to know and take notice of them finding it very strange ridiculous without reason nay against all reason both diuine and humane and not being able to comprehend and conceiue 1. How the holy Scriptures and the Spirit of God speaking in them were not the certaine and infallible rule of faith but rather men which are blinde ignorant and faultie of their owne nature 2. That they were obscure doubtfull vnperfect altogether insufficient to saluation 3. That of themselues without traditions they were not so necessary and that the traditions of themselues purely and simply without the said Scriptures were absolutely necessary 4. How the substance of bread and wine were changed and conuerted into the substance of the body and bloud of Iesus Christ 5. How the humanitie of our Sauiour in the same Sacrament was substantially present almost euery where or at least was really in almost infinite distinct and seuered places in one and the same instant 6. How the Masse was a true proper reall and substantiall sacrifice in the which the body of Christ in his owne essence substance and nature and proper person was againe offered immolated and sacrificed by the hands of the Priest to the euerlasting Father for the expiation of our faults sinnes and offences 7. How there was a Purgatorie and set place wherein the soules of the faithfull after this life were detained for the satisfaction of their crimes 8. How the said soules could be helped by the suffrages of the liuing as by praiers cries almes and other the like but especially by applying of Masses and Papall Indulgences 9. How there was in the Church a treasure composed of the superfluous merits of the Virgin of the Saints c. which could bee applied to the liuing and to the dead for a satisfaction and remission of their faults and offences 10. And that this application belonged and was proper to the Pope alone who might dispose thereof as should seeme good vnto him and deliuer by the meanes thereof the soules detained in this pretended Purgatorie at his will and pleasure 11. How Iesus Christ was not alone the only sufficient Mediator Intercessor and Aduocate for vs to his euerlasting Father and that for this purpose we ought to
resort and haue our refuge to the Saints and blessed ones and that a thousand other such like things which you beleeue and your Doctors teach and preach ought to be held for Articles of faith there not being any trace or ground of them in the sacred Scripture the true rule of that which ought to be beleeued and done Not being able I say to perswade my selfe that that was the true Church in the which the true faith and the doctrine of the Gospell was held and taught wherein the manners life and actions were so contrary and opposite vnto them and the corruption so great and vniuersally diffused and extended throughout But those were but small light and vaine Ideaes which went no farther by reason of the negligence as I beleeue in the which the watchings which I bestowed on my studies and other businesses kept me asleepe as also by reason of the age whereof I was which for that time did not giue me more liuely conceits thereof for want of some body that might haue heartened them on farther as indeed I was bred in the midst of them who beleeued and did the quite contrary Thus did my simplicitie hatch my ignorance wherein I liued fiue or six whole yeers since this first glimpse of light which did kindle in my soule and heart this desire and affection of the truth and to returne to this first spring and originall of the faith and manners of the Apostles and Disciples of the Sonne of God our Sauiour yet of that very Sauiour from whom by processe of time euen your Church hath swarued At the end of which yeeres finally it hath pleased that supreme goodnesse and maiestie which doth impart and communicate his graces and fauours to whom he thinkes good yea oftentimes to least worthy and capable subiects and makes the splendor of his euerlasting light to cast his beames on those soules that are deepest plunged into the obscuritie of darknesse to poure out on mine the amplitude and greatnesse of his heauenly and diuine benedictions and to make mee to see abundantly purely and to the full in their owne essence and naturall day both the truth and falshood and to harden strengthen and encourage my minde for to embrace valorously the one and to reiect the other against all the obiects and representations of humane reason the attractiue and alluring perswasions of nature the impetuous assaults of flesh and bloud and the strong suggestions and temptations of the deuill and the furious and bloudy combats of hell Whereupon I am and shall alwayes be obliged vnto him ouer and aboue all the obligations which I owe vnto him already in number almost infinite and I doe blesse praise wil praise him to al eternitie yea all the holy Angels of heauen and iust men of the earth which whereas the enuious hatefull and ill willers haue their foreheads wrinkled will be glad for me and reioyce at my departure and conuension This my change then hath no other scope and aimeth purely and simply as I haue already said at nothing but the glory of my God and the assurance of my saluation which I haue truly found out and sweare and protest that I could not haue attained vnto and wrought out in that state wherein I was vnderstand I pray you and hearken to the reasons thereof The two grounds and foundations of all Christian religion and consequently of euerlasting saluation are faith and charitie without which neither one nor the other can remaine and continue standing faith I say in Christ He that beleeues in me saith he shall not come into iudgement but he that beleeueth not is already condemned Not any faith whatsoeuer but such as God and the holy Scripture doe demand and require of vs not languishing dead grounded on humane inuentions and traditions but purely and simply on Gods word animated and quickned by the spirit of grace accompanied with good workes Charitie not fained dissembled in shew only but as the Apostle saith proceeding from a pure and cleane heart from a good conscience from an vnfained faith and a loyaltie not counterfeted The same S. Paul speaking of the first in the 1. Epist to the Corinthians chap. 3. saith it clearely and in very expresse termes According to the grace of God which is giuen vnto me as a wise master-builder I haue saith he laid the foundation and another buildeth thereon But let euery man take heede how he buildeth thereupon for other foundation can no man lay then that is laid which is Iesus Christ Now if any man build vpon this foundation gold siluer c. Where you see cleerely how vnder the metaphore and comparison of a materiall edifice and building which that it may be firme sound and lasting hath necessarily neede of a good strong foundation of firme and hard stones laid very farre and deepe in the ground he declareth signifieth and giueth cleerely to vnderstand that the true faith and beleefe in Iesus Christ our Sauiour such as he teacheth and sheweth vs in his writings is the true sure and onely foundation and the solid and setled ground-worke of all Christian religion and consequently by a necessary sequele of euerlasting saluation according to my proposition which for this first point remaines enough by this place and sufficiently proued As also no man doth deny it and call it in question but all generally doe admit and receiue it for a certaine and assured ground Let vs come to the proofe of the second point thereof to wit of Charitie I had need of more time then the shortnesse of this discourse can affoord mee for to relate all the places of holy Scripture making for this purpose That namely is manifest and cleare by the very words of our Sauiour when as being asked of that Doctour of the Law or Scribe and Pharisie which was the first the greatest and chiefe commandement thereof and hauing made answer that it was to loue God with all his heart with all his soule c. and his neighbour as himselfe he addeth that in these two points were comprised and contained closed and shut vp the whole Law and the Prophets and consequently by a necessary sequele and infallible conclusion all religion grounded and saluation established as on two solid and firme foundations without the which neither one nor the other as I haue already said can remaine and continue standing Now let vs see whether those two grounds and bases of saluation be or can be found in your Church and in the state and condition from whence I am departed to the end that from thence you may know and iudge whether I haue had iust cause and lawfull occasion to doe this or no and that the tongues that make themselues malicious and slanderous may cease from their calumnious assaults and pursuits And to begin with the faith and beleefe in Iesus Christ wee haue amongst many others three things to be considered in him 1. his person 2.
other hand the hammer and chizell for to square and fit these liuing stones to the building of his spirituall Temple But what doe I I must conclude lest mine obseruation should proue to be longer then the text it selfe In the meane time accept of that which is done for you and bee thankfull to God for that which he hath done for his Church and in particular cease not to pray continually for the peace of the distressed Ierusalem which he hath in France Farewell London this last of August 1616. Yours E. M. A DECLARATION OF HENRY MARC DE GOVFFIER Marquise of Boniuet Lord of Creuecoeur c. IF so be that pietie and the knowledge of God were things hereditarie and of that nature that they could descend from the parents to the children as well as doe the goods and possessions of this world then should not I need at this time to declare what I am what is my beleefe and what God hath put into me for my baptisme mine education and bringing vp would testifie it I hauing beene descended from such persons whereof some haue had the feeling of Gods truth within them and others the very confidence of professing it openly But the publike calamities which for so many yeeres haue afflicted this estate haue brought to mee in particular for my part this losse more to be lamented then any other that I could neuer haue a taste of that good affection which parents are wont to beare toward their children and that those from whose care I might haue looked for a faithfull instruction in matters of saluation hauing beene taken out of the miseries of this world as soone almost as I came vnto it there was left vnto mee no other light then for the body and my soule still continued in darknesse and the shadow of death and that in such manner that accordingly as I grew in age so I daily proceeded in errour and straying from Iesus Christ and his Gospell I strayed likewise from mine owne happinesse and had beene likely miserably to continue in that lamentable and deplorable estate euen vnto this day and so forwards if God who knoweth who are his and whose names hee hath written in his booke of life had not had pittie of me and if the goodnesse of him who sheweth mercy to whom hee sheweth mercy had not preuented mee and formally opposed it selfe to the mischiefe which was pleasing vnto me and to that curse which being to mee the greatest of all yet aboue all others was hugged and liked of by my soule And if the kindnesse of God towards mee hath beene eminent in regard of the thing it selfe in that he hath vouchsafed to deliuer me from the power of darknesse for to translate me to the kingdome of his well-beloued sonne the meanes also which it hath pleased him to vse for to bring to passe this happie effect are no lesse worth the considering in that God of the meanes of my totall perdition at least as they might seeme likely to bee hath made as many meanes of my conuersion to him according as hee is wont to draw sweetnesse out of bitter things for his children and generally to make all things to turne to the best for those who are called according to his determined purpose It is now twelue yeeres agoe when I was at Rome I will say no more there mine eyes saw wonders but such as were quite of another nature then those which heretofore the Apostles being directed and animated by the holy Spirit brought forth for to authorize and confirme the doctrine of grace And how carefully and industriously soeuer I was nurtured in ignorance and brought vp in the hatred of the Religion and the loue of Idolatrie yet I could neuer bee hindred from perceiuing that there was a great disproportion betweene the state of those who at this day doe domineere ouer the Church and the condition of them who formerly did feed the flocke of Christ that was committed vnto them Yet that was scarce any more then if I should haue beheld the darknesse of the night without being able to discerne the brightnesse of the day or if I did beginne to take notice it was in that manner as men beginne to see at the breake of day That beginning how small soeuer it was then did not continue vnprofitable the rising of the Sunne drew nigh the light increased and was strengthned in mine vnderstanding the abuses of Poperie appeared vnto me both grosser and more God left not in mee his worke vnperfect hee did put me in minde of inquiring a little further and to be informed truly by himselfe in his owne word whether of the two Religions that are receiued in this Kingdome might haue the vpper hand in regard of the truth or had more conformitie vnto this word This enquirie did make mee to resolue about some three yeeres since to forsake the seruice which I finde condemned in the Scripture and to embrace that which I find therein commanded and to come forthwith out of Babylon for feare that partaking longer of her knowne crimes I should bring my selfe into a manifest danger of partaking of her vnknowne plagues Whilest I had this resolution which came to me from God behold on the contrary many considerations which came from elsewhere on the one side were presented to mine eyes the lustre the pompe the dignities the greatnesse the hopes of the earth and with all this ostentation of the glories of the world as it were a certaine voice well-neere like to that which said sometimes to our Lord I will giue thee all these things if thou fall downe and worship mee on the other side the pouertie the miseries the ruines of houses the hatred the contempt and all what is most able to cause a distaste which should bee mine assured lot in case of change These two tentations the one on the right and the other on the left hand did make me suspend the effect of that wil which the spirit of God had insinuated into my spirit I looked behind me a good while I withheld the truth in vnrighteousnes I made my selfe beleeue that by doing much euil I should haue good done vnto me I fled from the presence of God but God did make me at length feele that he deceiues himselfe which thinkes to scape by swiftnesse from before him he prepared for me a Whale for to swallow me but yet not for to destroy me I was chastened by his hand and that through the same things in the which I had sinned he tooke away out of mine hands both that which I had and that which I had not And now my hopes were cut off euen at the root now many things by me possessed were lost for me now my libertie more precious then all the rest was taken from me but God be praised who hauing taken from mee so many things yet hath giuen mee so many that if hee hath sent mee any euill it was onely for