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A26049 The assenters sayings published in their own words for the information of the people : being in requital of Roger L'Estrange's Dissenters sayings / by an indifferent hand. Indifferent hand. 1681 (1681) Wing A4019; ESTC R4649 21,051 39

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by_o this_o comforter_n we_o must_v understand_v he_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 18.16_o that_o be_v another_o comforter_n like_a unto_o i_o not_o only_o a_o spirit_n but_o a_o perfect_a man._n ibid._n 8._o we_o must_v understand_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v a_o man_n for_o they_o that_o be_v send_v to_o we_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n be_v man_n yet_o he_o that_o be_v thus_o dignify_v be_v but_o one_o man_n ibid._n 9_o christ_n say_v speak_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n john_n 16.13_o he_o shall_v not_o speak_v of_o himself_o but_o what_o he_o hear_v that_o shall_v he_o speak_v ibid._n 10._o from_o whence_o you_o may_v understand_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n though_o call_v here_o a_o spirit_n as_o elsewhere_o be_v not_o a_o spirit_n only_o but_o a_o man_n also_o for_o he_o be_v a_o hearer_n and_o a_o receiver_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o errand_n be_v not_o to_o speak_v of_o himself_o or_o to_o set_v forth_o himself_o but_o to_o glorify_v jesus_n christ_n which_o thing_n you_o know_v king_n charles_n do_v above_o all_o that_o ever_o be_v ibid._n 11._o you_o say_v the_o holy_a ghost_n come_v upon_o the_o apostle_n and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n joh._n 14._o be_v fulfil_v and_o there_o be_v no_o further_a manifestation_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v expect_v among_o man_n i_o say_v no_o for_o the_o great_a manifestation_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v reserve_v until_o the_o time_n of_o the_o restoration_n of_o israel_n and_o thus_o you_o see_v act_v 1_o for_o christ_n be_v among_o they_o bid_v they_o wait_v for_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o not_o depart_v out_o of_o jerusalem_n until_o it_o come_v upon_o they_o they_o think_v there_o shall_v be_v a_o full_a manifestation_n of_o it_o in_o their_o day_n say_v lord_n will_v thou_o at_o this_o time_n restore_v the_o kingdom_n to_o israel_n for_o than_o they_o understand_v the_o fullness_n of_o the_o promise_n shall_v be_v but_o the_o 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1.6_o who_o first_o be_v type_v out_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n who_o come_v and_o sacrifice_v himself_o the_o second_o he_o call_v he_o say_v when_o he_o come_v into_o the_o world_n heb._n 10.5_o that_o be_v the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v ready_a to_o be_v a_o body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n to_o do_v his_o will_n ibid._n 13._o in_o the_o first_o dispensation_n under_o the_o law_n christ_n jesus_n be_v among_o they_o and_o speak_v by_o their_o prophet_n who_o form_n of_o speech_n be_v thus_o say_v the_o lord_n and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n jesus_n that_o utter_v himself_o by_o they_o so_o in_o the_o second_o dispensation_n under_o the_o gospel_n you_o shall_v find_v the_o holy_a ghost_n come_v in_o the_o begin_n in_o s._n john_n the_o baptist_n and_o so_o forward_o to_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n increase_v in_o it_o and_o that_o the_o prophet_n under_o the_o gospel_n use_v this_o form_n of_o speech_n thus_o say_v the_o holy_a ghost_n ibid._n 14._o as_o the_o appearance_n of_o 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