Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	holy_a	person_n	trinity_n	8,176	5	10.0802	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A78222	Apodeixis tou antiteichismatos. Or, a tryall of the counter-scarfe, made 1642. In answer to a scandalous pamphlet, intituled, A treatise against superstitious Iesu-worship: written by Mascall Giles, Vicar of Ditchling in Sussex. Wherein are discovered his sophismes: and the holy mother our church is cleered of all the slanders which hee hath laid on her. By the author of the Antiteichisma.	Barton, Thomas, 1599 or 1600-1682 or 3.	1643 (1643)	Wing B997; Thomason E87_13; ESTC R209874	118,628	143

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the_o son_n at_o his_o name_n we_o be_v also_o bind_v to_o honour_v the_o father_n by_o bow_v to_o his_o if_o not_o the_o one_o than_o not_o the_o other_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v with_o the_o self_n same_o honour_n plain_o here_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o have_v change_v the_o principle_n and_o be_v go_v from_o the_o name_n to_o the_o relation_n the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o bow_v at_o the_o name_n of_o the_o son_n that_o be_v when_o the_o son_n be_v name_v or_o at_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n that_o be_v when_o the_o father_n be_v name_v we_o may_v do_v all_o if_o we_o please_v for_o not_o be_v express_o command_v it_o be_v no_o where_n forbid_v but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o bow_v at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n the_o person_n be_v equal_o honour_v or_o no_o you_o can_v prove_v they_o be_v not_o i_o will_v show_v you_o how_o they_o be_v compare_v ad_fw-la inuicem_fw-la they_o be_v three_o in_o se_fw-la one_o 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