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A34470	A blow at the serpent; or a gentle answer from Madiston prison to appease wrath advancing it self against truth and peace at Rochester. Together with the work of four daies disputes, in the Cathedral of Rochester, in the Countie of Kent, betweene several ministers, and Richard Coppin, preacher there, to whom very many people frequentlie came to hear, and much rejoyced at the way of truth and peace he preached, at the same whereof the ministers in those parts began to ring in their pulpits, saying, this man blasphemeth, ... Whereupon arose the disputes, at which were some magistrates, some officers, and souldiers, peaceable and well-minded, and very many people from all parts adjacent, before whom the truth was confirm'd and maintained. The whole matter written by the hearers, on both sides. Published for the confirmation and comfort of all such as receive the truth in the love of it. By Richard Coppin, now in Maidston Prison for the witness of Jesus. Twenty five articles since brought against him by the ministers, as blasphemie, and his answers to them, how he was	Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659.	1656 (1656)	Wing C6094; ESTC R215454	85,329	113

and such a one enjoyes it as possessingly and the other doth not and that makes it more especially unto him and so he have a greater assurance then the other hath because he trusteth in the living God who is the Saviour of all men of which all he knows himself one and so believes it upon a sure ground till which time I could not assure my self Article 15. That if there be but one man of all that ever were or shall be in the world damned no man can assuredly know that his soule shall be saved Answer And if Christ were not the Saviour of all men and I hear but of one man that shall be damned to all eternity and this man not yet pointed out as knowne from all the rest to be the man and Christ come to save the worst of sinners what full assurance then can I have of my savlation more then another of his salvation but some doubts and some feares will arise within me who shall be that man that is to be damned till I see a pardon come forth for all men to be saved and then I knowing my selfe to be one of that all cannot but have a good assurance of my owne salvation this axperince-in me doth witness as also saith the Scripture that I can no more judge any man to eternall damnation but that which is not of God in man Therefore who art thou O man that judgest another and dost the same things thy selfe for wherein thou judgest another thou condemnest thy selfe for thou that judgest dost the same things and who hath made thee to differ from another that thou shouldest be saved and not another wherefore think not better of thy selfe then of another for there is no respect of Persons with God that is more accepted with him but only Christ in all and all in Christ for he hath concluded all men as men under sin and unbeliefe that he might have mercy upon all and then O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God how unsearchable are his judgment and his wayes past finding out for who hath knowne the mind of God or who hath bin his councellor for of him and to him and through him are all things to whom be glory for ever Article 16. That the unpardonable sin of the Holy Ghost is nothing but flesh opposing and quenching the spirit till Christ come into the soule and destroy the flesh Answer To explaine this the Holy Ghost is the spirit the sin against the Holy Ghost is the opposition and war that is made against the Spirit by the fleshly carnall mind for the flesh wa 〈…〉 against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh and these are contrary one to another in man and so saith Paul I find saith he a warring within me that when I would do good evill is present with me 't is no more I that do it but sin that dwelleth in me for with my mind I serve the Law of God though with my flesh the Law of sin and this flesh opposing the Spirit is for a time in every man as a man of sin ruling in them till Christ come into the soule and destroy it which shall never be forgiven in this world nor in the world to come but is the only enemy that God will destroy in man Article 17. That when a soule is once regenerated then he is free from all sin that the flesh is quite destroyed Answer Regeneration is a new birth and the new birth is to be in Christ a new creature free from all sin without which man nor his prayers nor any thing is accepted of God for he heareth not sinners and without holiness no man shall see God but if the Son shall make you free then are you free indeed and him that is in Christ is a new creature old things are past away and all things are become new by the washing of Regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Article 18. That no man shall receive any good by any good that he doth that it shall no way further his salvation Answer If man by his good works could merit heaven then salvation by Christ were made void or if any thing of man which is imperfect were to joyn with Christ in the work of salvation then mans salvation were not all by Christ but by man and would so far be imperfect and then man might boast and say he was able to help Christ to save his soul and so robing Christ of his work would rob him of his honor also but not of works saith Paul lest any man should boast neither by any other name under heaven but by Jesus Christ is any man saved that no flesh might glory in his presence but he that glories let him glory in the Lord that his soul was saved by the Lord Article 19. That no man shall receive any hinderance by any sin he committeth that shall do him no hurt Answer If any sin of man should hinder mans salvation by Christ then that sin would appear to be too strong for Christ to conquer and then no man could be saved for there is no sin but every man is guiltie of for all have sinned and all are guiltie but this I say with the Prophet Elihu that his bad works may hurt a man as he is and his good works may profit men but shall no way profit the salvation of his soul But because good works are good to men therefore would I have all men observe and do them doing unto others as they would others should do to them which is the sum of the whole Law for he that loveth God will also love his Brother Article 20. That our Lord Jesus Christ is the three persons in the Trinity God blessed Father Son and Holy Spirit and that the blessed Trinity is but three manifestation of God Answer The blessed Trinity Father Son and Spirit I acknowledg the Father as begeting the Son as begotten and the Holy Ghost uniting as being the compleat union of all three together in one spirit where they all meet as copartners together in one work that what the one is the other is the same and what the one doth the other doth the same as all but one God manifesting himself under various appearances of Father Son and Spirit to the creatures apprehension Article 21. That our Lord Jesus Christ himself was the Leper that was cleansed and returned to give thanks Luke 17. 15. Answer I say not that Christ was a Leper but there were ten Lepers that were cleansed and one of them when he saw himself cleansed turned back and glorified God and Christ saith Where are the other nine There are not found that returned to give glory to God save this stranger and who was this stranger but Christ in that man that gave glory to God for the work done as Christ saith Father I have glorified thee on

the second person in the Trinity God our All-blessed for ever he that did take our nature of his Virgin Mother and doth in our nature sit at the right hand of God and will come again at the last day to judge the quick and dead Coppin I do not denie the three persons according to the Scripture but you do denie Christ to be within us and would subscribe him to a place above our heads with another person therefore I will tell you what the Trinity is First there is God the Father that did create all things and in whom all things live when yet unknown to man and that men might know him that is true he did appear as a son amongst men to manifest himself to men and so he is said to be Immanuel God withus which is also Christ in us the hope of glory Thirdly there is the Holy Spirit and that is the compleat manifestation of the fulness of all things brought home to mans understanding wherein God Christ and man appears all but one in one God as Christ saith I in them and thou in me that we all may be made perfect in one and saith he The Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name he shall come and teach you all things Now so long as man is without this manifestation of God which is Christ in him he is a reprobate and knows not God but when Christ shall so appear in man to shew the Father plainly then is there a perfect knowledg of the true God in man John 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in the Father and you in me and I in you and then know you not but that Christ is in you except you be reprobates And now what is a reprobate but not to have Christ in you which is God manifest in flesh therefore I say Reprobation is the not knowing of God to be in you Rom. 1. 28. for because they did not like to retain God in their knowledge God gave them over to a reprobate mind but where there is God manifest in flesh to the knowledge of any there is Christ and that man is no longer a reprobate for then is God said to walk in him as being no longer still and silent but is seen and known to him as when a man dwells in a house shuting the windows to him and will not be seen so when God doth not only dwell in man but also walk in man discovering himself to man by opening and leting in the light through the understanding of man then is Father Son and Spirit all three as one God dwelling walking and manifesting himself in man For saith he I will dwell amongst you and I will walk amongst you I will be your God and you shall be my people Rosewell You have confounded the three persons Coppin No I have united them together in their proper places as all agreeing in one when as they were three manifestations of that one great and glorious God Father Son and Spirit Rosewell It is high time for Magistrates Ministers and people to look about them when such damnable errors are uttered with so impudent a face Captain Smith Mr. Rosewell It is the plain Scripture I conceive Mr. Coppin hath given the people satisfaction in those things for he saith that Jesus Christ is in no reprobates nor in no man till they know God and that where God doth manifest himself to a soul there is Christ Rosewell But Sir he I know doth mean that there is no reprobates ordained to wrath now tell me will Christ be in them you call reprobates first or last Coppin There is no man now come to know God but first he did not know God and so long he was a reprobate which that all men are till Christ be dwelling in them Captain Smith Till Jesus Christ be manifested in them he saith they are reprobates Rosewell But I have a new question that is Will Christ be manifest in them all first or last answer that Coppin I will give you a plain Scripture for an answer 1 Tim. 2. 4. 5. Who will have all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth for there is one God and one Mediator betweene God and man even the man Christ Jesus who gave himselfe a ransome for all men to be testified in due time whereunta I Paul am ordained an Apostle I speak the truth in Christ and lie not Rosewell You see ●e affirms that God will save all men Coppin I have answered you in the plain words of Scriptures which is an answer sufficient And Paul saith He doth speak the truth in Christ and lies not pick what you can out of that and of this Gospel truth saith he I Paul am made a Minister Rosewell You do not say that Christ shall appear in all but you bring this as a proof now no Scripture doth contradict another now this is meant he will save some of all sorts of men of places and authority Coppin The Apostle saith all and you say some who perverts Scripture now you or I Rosewell You are not to pray for all men therefore all shall not be saved Coppin If all shall be saved that are to be prayed for then there is none but shall be saved for prayers is to be made for all men Rosewell But the Apostle means all sorts of men and that some of all sorts shall be saved Coppin Then by your own words there is no one whole sort of men in the world left out from salvation but some of all sorts and not all of any sort you say shall be saved and the Scripture saith all men of all sorts for both the fulnesse of Jews and Gentiles shall come in therefore name any of any sort that shall not CHAP. IX The sin against the Holy Ghost not forgiven what it is who commits it and when ROsewell He that hath commited the sin against the Holy Ghost that after strong conviction of truth do fall away and are perverted they shall not be forgiven in this world nor the world to come and whosoever commits sin is of him but he that is born of God sineth not neither can he for his seed remaineth in him Rosewell He that is born of God sineth not that is willingly to make a trade of sin yet in the best of Gods people there is sin Coppin Then he that commits sin is of the devill and shall be destroyed but if he that commits sin and is of the devill be meant of men there is none shall be saved if all commits sin as you say Rosewell No I doe not say so Coppin But you do therefore heare if he that commits sin is of the devill as the Scripture saith and that as you say all men do commit sin for you say in the best of Gods people there is sin and that God will destroy the persons of men

Mat. 25. 35. That by the left hand we are to understand nothing but the Law as by the right hand nothing but the Gospel Answer First they under the Law not believing the pardon of their sins are at the left hand of God as Goats cursed for cursed is everie one that is under the law Secondly they under the Gospel believing that their sins are pardoned are at the right hand of God as sheep blessed For blessed is the man whose iniquities are forgiven and whose sin is covered and blessed are they that know the joyful sound of the Gospel for they are at the right hand of God in the way of life where they hear his voice and behold his face and have pleasures for evermore and Christ to redeem man to this state of blessednesse from that curse and Goatish nature which man by reason of sin lay under at the left hand of God did himselfe bear our sins in our steeds at the left hand and was cursed for us signified by the Scape Goat on whom Aaron laid the sins of all the people sending him away with them to lose them so did God on Christ lay the sins of all people and as the Goat in the tipe did so did Christ carrie them away from us no more to be remembered to us which is blasphemie to say Article 4. That the Lord Christ was the High-Priest spoken of in Heb. 5. 3. and that he offered for his own sins Answer As concerning this I only asked the question what High-Priest was there meant and the answer was given by one of the Ministers that it was Jesus Christ but read and consider the Scripture and you may be better satisfied for he was one that could have compassion on the ignorant and on them that are out of the way and who this is I will leave for the Reader to judge compared with Chap. 7. 27. Christ is there said to do that by one offering which the Priests under the Law did at twice that is they offered first for their own sins and then for the sins of the people but this did Christ once when he offered up himself not that Christ could offer for his own sins as known to him but for our sins as reckoned to him in our nature and so all our sins became his till he by death discharged both himself and us of them together Article 5. That the Human Nature of Christ is not ascended to heaven and brought this Scripture to prove it that flesh and blood shall not inherit the Kingdom of God 1 Cor. 13. 50. Answer The Humane Nature of Christ was of the same nature of man which was of the earth earthie and Christ by living in it did sanctifie and cleanse it and so made it heavenlie which may be said to be its Ascention into heaven but that a humane bodie of flesh blood and bones should be in a local place above the Stars as M. French and others would have it I find not anywhere proved from Scripture for then it would be also out of its element and then heaven were to be understood as the earth and not as heaven and so one contrariet●e would be in another but John saith That which is of the earth is earthy and that which from heaven is heavenly and flesh and blood never came from heaven therefore shall not enter into heaven but the Holy Spirit and Power was said to descend down upon the Mother of Christ and not a humane bodie and Paul saith He that ascended up to heaven is the same he that first descended from heaven and not another Article 6. That he that looks for the humane nature of Christ to come from heaven may look long enough Answer He that looks for such a coming of Christ in his second coming as is contrarie to the Scripture and not as God himself which is the Lord from heaven may look long enough before he see him but the Scripture saith That though we have known Christ after the flesh yet henceforth know we him so no more but in spirit and in glorie to be revealed in our flesh And this coming of Christ is the coming of God to take a Kingdom to himself in man of that which is himself which coming must be as God ro man and not as man to man for he shall come in the glorie of his Father and this coming I know and therefore speak not denying any other Article 7. That there shall be no Resurrection of any body that dies and when that of Job the 19. 23. to 28. was urged he returned that Job said he knew not what and proceeded most abominably to Allegorie the Scriptures Answer First I deny not what may be proved by another but the Apostle saith That the same bodie buried is not the same bodie raised but God giveth it a bodie as pleaseth him that is to be like himself for so it 's written He will change our vile bodies and fashion them like unto his glorious bodie whose body is not as mans is and David saith When I awake I shall be satisfied with thy likenesse which is for all things in man to be subdued unto the Lord that God may be all in all who is not the God of the dead but of the living and when Job said His Redeemer lived and that he should see him stand upon the earth at the last day was a mysterie which Job did not then know until he saw it fulfilled in himself which afterwards he d●d and then saw his last day and confest that he had before uttered words without knowledge things too wonderfull for him which he understood not But now saith he hear I beseech th 〈…〉 and I will declare unto thee for I have often heard of thee by the hearing of the ear but now do mine eyes see thee and then was Jobs Resurrection come when he saw God to be risen within him and we rise not but as God rises with us For saith he the dead men shall live together with my dead bodie shall they arise Awake and sing ye that dwell in the dust for thy dew is as the dew of herbs and the earth shall cast out the dead and blessed are they that hath part in this Resurrection Article 8. That there shall be no day of Judgment and that the Scriptures warrant it Answer This I never said but that a day of Judgment according to the Scripture there is which had its beginning with Christ manifest in flesh after the fall of man to destroy sin which Day of Judgement was then is now and ever will be to man so long as sin remains in man unjudged and uncondemned by Christ and so saith Christ For Judgement am I come and now is the Judgement of this world now shall the Prince of this world be cast out and now will I convince the world of sin of righteousnesse and of Judgement which day of Judgment