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A48222 A Letter to Mr. Robert Bridgman, George Keith's trophy, in answer to his reasons for leaving the Quaqers [sic] 1700 (1700) Wing L1717; ESTC R41469 8,845 18

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both Quick and Dead The Doctrines relating hereto and Faith wrought by the Operation of the Holy Ghost are you say the Essential and Fundamental Principles of the Christian Religion without which we cannot be saved in this or the World to come Sir I have no great mind to Animadvert on your Essentials and Fandamentals tho' I think there is something in it that makes your Reasons to taste of the Cask more than every Body is aware of But I am willing the Quakers shall answer you and if therein they say for Substance as you say you are obliged by the Rules of good Manners not only to beg Their Pardon but your Reader 's Pardon also THE first in order is the Trinity and doubtless W. P. is the great Ranter on that Subject for whatever other Quakers have done or said in that ●ase Mr. Penn has in his Sandy Foundation out done ●●em all You cannot be Ignorant what Work and what 〈◊〉 Noise that Book and his being put in the Tower there●●●e made in the World for and because of which … n he and the rest of the Quakers have had work enough ●ver since to defend it against those that have taken advantage therein But pray Sir what is this Doctrine of the Trinity Is it that there is that is to say 't is not a Fiction but a Reality there is a God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Ghost and yet these Three viz. Father Son and Holy Ghost are not Three but One God If the Quakers do not believe this they are very Hypocritical I must confess when even Mr. Penn himself saith in the Book above-quoted p. 26. Mistake me not we have never disowned a Father Word and Spirit which are One But what is it then Mr. Penn you disown He Answers Mens Inventions for first Their Trinity which is one Person of the Father another Person of the Son and another Person of the Holy Ghost 1st Has no Foundation in Scripture saith he Sir if it hath you ought to produce the Chapter and Verse and then if the Quakers disbelieve it you may Reproach them with it but till then you know we are not obliged to believe it as so exprest and Mr. Penn is in the right of it who saith It is but Mens Inventions though the Doctrine of Father Son and Holy Ghost being One not Three Gods or Corporeal Subsistences they say they own and you have not given any Demonstration to the contrary 2d Reason saith he is its Original viz. Three distinct Persons and but one God was 300 Years after Christianity was in the World but the Doctrine of Father Son and Holy Ghost was not 300 Years nor days after Christianity was in the World His 3d. Reason was It cost much Blood in the Council of Sirmium Anno 355. It was decreed That because 〈◊〉 Scriptures of God make no mention thereof the Controv●●●● about it should cease A happy and wise Discussion His 4th Reason was It occasions Idolatry witness P … Images c. which must be according to the Doctrine of T●●●● distinct Persons One Two Three each differing one from the other and doubtless is but too true I am therefore o● Dr. Burnet's Mind That the Word Person is too Gross and only used to supply a Defect and ought to be used no longer than the Brazen Serpent was It were needless to say more since every Body knows the Quakers Quarrel not with the Doctrine but the Terms of expressing it which Terms are not to be found in the sacred Text and therefore not they but we are to be blamed for pretending the Text to be the Mind of God and yet adding to it when they keep to it from which Sir it is evident your first Article against them if not designed has made very much for them since they have in one of their imprimated Prints these very words We acknowledge its every true Christian's Duty to believe in God the Father Almighty and in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord and in the Holy Spirit which are One God The 2d of The Incarnation of the Son of God c. Sir I hardly understand you in this Article would you make us believe that the Quakers do not believe Christ's Incarnation because you say you and your Wife c. did not believe it Doubtless as you deceived your selves so you did many others oven of your then Communion who thought you had been better instructed for if you read the Quakers Books you cannot be ignorant of their Notions concerning Christ's Incarnation viz. That he took not on him the Nature of Angels but the Nature of Man and was made Man viz. was very Man as well as very God For proof hereof see your Master Keith in the first place his Immediate Revelation his Way cast up his Way to the City of God which were all printed whilst he was in Communion with them ●nd by their Approbation which shews they did believe ●●e Doctrine so as their Mouth had exprest Besides Mr. ●eith you know Mr. Barclay has as amply exprest himself on that Subject as Mr. Keith and that the Society of Quakers has approved of what he has declared is evident since they have at their publick Charge printed his Works in Folio But if you should object This is only out of Scotland I will bring the matter nearer home first then their great Apostle against whom you say as much as any viz. G. F. That he did believe the Incarnation of Christ in the Year 1644. is evident when the Question was ask'd Why Christ cry'd out upon the Cross My God my God c. G. F. Answers That it was because at that time the Sins of all Mankind was upon him with which he was wounded and the weight of their Iniquities and Transgressions were upon him which he was to bear and to be an Offering for them as he was Man but died not as he was God Journal Fol. 4. being ask'd who was Christ's Father and Mother he answers Mary was his Mother Joseph was his supposed Father but that he was the Son of God ibid. And also in 1648. from these words Jour p. 22. For I saw that Christ had died for all Men and was a Propitiation c. From which nothing can be more clear than this that he that died must be first alive but Christ as God could not Die but Christ as Man or the Word made Flesh did Die and G. F. saith He saw his so dying was for all Men. His Humanity then is here asserted and Incarnation as plain and clear as the Sun at Noon-day But because I will Rivet it you have here in the same Page and following Words his Divinity as amply proved in these words viz. And had enlightned all Men and Women with his divine and saving Light So here then the first Preacher amongst the Quakers was found in the Christian Faith both with respect to the Incarnation Humanity and Divinity of
Christ and if he had not been so think you that your Mr. Keith would have said of him That he was a worthy Instrument safe in the hand of him th●● holds the seven Stars and seven Golden Candlesticks 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Cor. p. 111. Now as he who was safe in the hand of 〈◊〉 who holds the seven Stars c. had taught so the Quak●●● following his Doctrine and Example likewise Teach in t●● Year 1696. which is 48 Years after G. F. had that clear sight sense and knowledge of Christ Mr. Penn who all Men will allow must know the bottom of Quakerism as much as your Master makes in his Primitive Christianity this plain and candid Confession page 85. That Jesus Christ took our Nature upon him and was like us in all things Sin excepted that he was Born of the Virgin Mary and Suffered under Pontius Pilate Crucified Dead and Buried Rose again the third day and Ascended into Heaven and sits at the right hand of God in the Power and Majesty of his Father who will one day judge the World by him even that blessed Man Christ Jesus according to their Works Now see if you think the Persons name ought to be mentioned under whom Jesus Christ suffered and also in whose Sepulchre he was when crucified and buried as part of that Faith without which 't is impossible to be saved Mr. Penn hath added that also viz. Pontius Pilate the Roman Governour and Joseph of Arimathea Sir I need add no more Testimonies tho' I could produce perhaps five Thousand from 48. to 1700. of the Quakers in general but especially those of them that have appeared in Print or have been Preachers amongst them of any Note to Confront your unworthy Insinuating against them of being Ignorant of the Incarnation of Christ and all as I perceive grounded upon your own and Wife's Ignorance which if true it was high time for you to launch into another Church to be better taught since you had so long been a Scandal to that you pretended to be a Member of before I must confess some Trees will thrive much the better for being Transplanted but 't is hardly Civil to blame others for your Errors The next Article in order is The Satisfaction and Atone●●nt made unto God the Father by his Obedience and Death on 〈◊〉 Cross For a clear Demonstration that you are either as in the ●●●er part just now mentioned extream Ignorant or else ●ou do the Quakers this Injury to gratifie your Master Keith those word to be sure will not for all the Sanction of his Coat newly put on pass so well as yours and therefore I think you are the more culpable under a shew of more Honesty to vent as much at least Spleen with your Untruth as your Master but I will not do as you have done Reproach and not prove but proceed to Mr. Penn's Words Serious Apology page 146. We believe saith he in One only holy Lord God Almighty and in One Lord Jesus Christ his only Son and express Image of his Substance who took on him Flesh and was in the World and in Life Doctrine Miracles Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation perfectly did and does continue to do the Will of God To whose holy Life Power Mediation and Blood we only ascribe our Sanctification Justification Redemption and perfect Salvation and we believe in One holy Spirit c. Add to this what he saith Primitive Christianity Revived pag. 89 90. But let my Reader take this along with him That we do acknowledge Christ through his holy Doing and Suffering for being a Son he learned Obedience has obtained Mercy of God his Father for Mankind and that his Obedience has an Influence to our Salvation in all the parts and Branches of it I say we do believe and confess that the active and passive Obedience of Christ Jesus affects our Salvation throughout as well from the Power and Pollution of Sin as from the Guilt Again pag. 77. We do believe that Jesus Christ was our holy Sacrifice and Atonement the Propitiation that he bore our Iniquities and that by his Stripes we were healed of the Wounds Adam gave us in his Fall and that God is Just in Forgiving true Penitents upon the Credit of that holy Offering Christ made of himself to God for us and that what he did and suffered satisfied and pleased God Thus Sir I have proved I think past a doubt tha● the Ignorance of those Truths lay either in your Fam● in particular or in and about Huntingdon and that it sho●●● be so is indeed matter of Shame unto you The next in order is the Resurrection and Ascension of his Body and Person as if Person and Body were two parts into Heaven and his remaining in our Nature at the right hand of God in the Glory of his Father our Head High Priest and Intercessor Sir 't is really matter of Sorrow indeed that You and your Wife should be so long Ignorant of the Resurrection and Ascension of Christ for all that are so I cannot see any hopes they have of any Intercession or Mediation to be made for them for if our Mediator and Intercessor is not ascended into Glory we are under very bad Circumstances indeed as is he that believes not the Resurrection of Christ since he has really Rose for our Justification as he did actually Dye for our Sins And if the Quakers are Ignorant hereof I pity them with all my Heart but I am not willing to conclude them so because you were so I cannot forbear thinking your Ignorance surely is owing to being led by or keeping too much Company with some silly Woman or Women Now for proof that you abuse them because of your Ignorance I would advise you to read Serious Apology 1st Part printed 1671. by G. Whitehead pag. 33 34. It seem'd Jenner was of the Mind that Christ's Body now in Heaven is a Natural Body and it looks as if you were of the same Mind by these words Remaining in our Nature which is an absurd Notion to think Christ is now in Heaven in our Nature for our Nature is Corruptable and very much depraved so that we are as the Apostle said by Nature Children of Wrath and would you have Christ exist in such a Nature in Heaven Upon which absurdity G. Whitehead well observes that the Scriptures do not say That Christ's Glorified Body in Heaven is a Natural Body for if Christ's Body be Natural or Humane now in Heaven whose Body is it that is Spiritual and Glorious Or is he one ●●●ritual Head of two Bodies the one Natural the other ●●iritual But saith G. W. The Apostle said He Christ shall ●hange our low Bodies and make them like his Glorious Body here you see 't is plain ours is Low that is Natural c. his is Glorious c. and this G. Whitehead owns and that he is Glorified with the Father with the same Glory he had before the World began But