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A15418 Limbo-mastix: that is, A canuise of Limbus Patrum shewing by euident places of Scripture, inuincible reasons, and pregnant testimonies of some ancient writers, that Christ descended not in soule to Hell, to deliuer the Fathers from thence. Containing also a briefe replie to so much of a pamphlet lately published, intituled, An answere to certaine obiections against the descension &c. as lookes that way, and is personally directed against some writers of our Church. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1604 (1604) STC 25692; ESTC S120030 49,797 70

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between_o this_o phrase_n of_o s._n peter_n quicken_v in_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o of_o s._n paul_n rom._n 1._o 3._o declare_v to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o spirit_n of_o sanctification_n that_o be_v by_o the_o power_n thereof_o object_n 5._o if_o by_o flesh_n you_o understand_v the_o whole_a humane_a nature_n that_o be_v his_o body_n and_o soul_n than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o he_o be_v do_v to_o death_n both_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n ans._n p._n 24._o ans._n first_o there_o be_v no_o more_o necessity_n here_o by_o flesh_n flesh_n to_o understand_v the_o whole_a humanity_n of_o christ_n his_o soul_n and_o body_n than_o in_o that_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n name_v before_o rom._n 1._o 3_o christ_n be_v make_v of_o the_o seed_n of_o david_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n here_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v christ_n humanity_n be_v set_v against_o the_o spirit_n his_o divinity_n and_o yet_o if_o the_o soul_n shall_v necessary_o 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