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be_v that_o when_o moral_a and_o ceremonial_a precept_n come_v to_o competition_n ceremonial_n must_v be_v suspend_v and_o moral_n obey_v his_o six_o consideration_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n manifest_a and_o indisputable_a command_n of_o god_n must_v take_v place_n and_o he_o obey_v when_o they_o come_v in_o competition_n with_o such_o command_n as_o be_v disputable_a among_o the_o godly_a holy_a and_o learned_a man_n whether_o they_o be_v indeed_o command_v or_o no_o as_o to_o instance_n to_o edify_v comfort_n admonish_v counsel_n watch_v over_o one_o another_o these_o be_v the_o undoubted_a command_n of_o god_n and_o due_a unto_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v solemn_o promise_v to_o be_v perform_v except_o there_o be_v a_o release_n by_o consent_n or_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n otherways_o or_o dere_v it_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o make_v they_o good_a unto_o those_o individual_a person_n to_o who_o they_o be_v make_v but_o whether_o god_fw-we commanda_fw-la that_o child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v as_o well_o as_o man_n or_o that_o baptism_n shall_v be_v administer_v this_o way_n or_o another_o these_o thing_n be_v disputable_a and_o dispure_v among_o believer_n what_o say_v you_o now_o be_v there_o no_o difference_n between_o mr._n goodwin_n first_o and_o six_o consideration_n well_o that_o consideration_n be_v yet_o untouched_a by_o you_o but_o sure_o i_o be_o you_o be_v sufficient_o touch_v and_o more_o than_o touch_v by_o it_o and_o i_o trust_v you_o be_v not_o past_a feel_n i_o wish_v you_o will_v serious_o lay_v it_o to_o heart_n sect_n lxiii_o mr._n goodwin_n seven_o consideration_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o that_o text_n viz._n hebrew_n 6.2_o so_o much_o insist_v upon_o by_o you_o 6.2_o heb._n 6.2_o and_o the_o brethren_n with_o you_o do_v import_v a_o plurality_n of_o baptism_n though_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o end_n of_o baptism_n to_o we_o there_o be_v but_o one_o baptism_n eph._n 4.5_o 4.5_o eph._n 4.5_o yet_o in_o respect_n of_o variety_n of_o subject_n and_o different_a form_n these_o may_v bâ—â—_n many_o and_o therefore_o these_o form_n not_o express_o declare_v and_o manifest_v in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v a_o hard_a and_o unchristian_a thing_n to_o call_v those_o church_n accurse_v and_o unclean_a that_o shall_v not_o use_v that_o particular_a way_n or_o form_n that_o you_o so_o much_o magnify_v and_o insist_v upon_o to_o this_o you_o answer_v first_o why_o shall_v that_o be_v hard_o to_o mr._n goodwin_n which_o the_o scripture_n have_v make_v easy_a say_v you_o that_o be_v your_o interpretation_n no_o text_n express_o or_o by_o necessary_a consequence_n prove_v what_o that_o form_n be_v say_v i._n 2._o as_o for_o variety_n of_o subject_n the_o scripture_n say_v you_o mention_n but_o one_o viz._n disciple_v person_n to_o this_o i_o have_v reply_v before_o sect._n 32._o mr._n
goodwin_n eigth_n consideration_n be_v summary_o what_o you_o have_v say_v viz._n that_o withdraw_a upon_o this_o account_n be_v a_o schismatical_a practice_n and_o a_o sin_n of_o a_o high_a nature_n to_o this_o you_o answer_v first_o scripture_n schism_n be_v a_o sin_n but_o that_o be_v not_o your_o schism_n your_o schism_n be_v command_v not_o prohibit_v in_o scripture_n but_o by_o your_o favour_n it_o be_v sub_fw-la judice_fw-la and_o every_o man_n cause_n be_v right_a in_o his_o own_o eye_n and_o your_o separation_n have_v be_v sufficient_o argue_v and_o prove_v to_o be_v such_o a_o sin_n as_o require_v your_o repentance_n and_o reformation_n whether_o you_o see_v it_o or_o no._n but_o say_v you_o show_v we_o a_o rule_n from_o christ_n to_o gather_v church_n without_o baptism_n than_o our_o mouth_n will_v be_v stop_v i_o reply_v what_o be_v this_o to_o infant_n baptism_n what_o to_o dip_v the_o church_n from_o who_o you_o have_v separate_v be_v and_o be_v a_o baptize_v church_n 2._o show_v we_o where_o in_o all_o the_o scripture_n baptism_n be_v make_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o church-fellowship_n sure_o i_o be_o in_o respect_n of_o scripture_n evidence_n you_o be_v here_o as_o mute_a as_o fish_n 2._o you_o add_v why_o shall_v our_o separate_n from_o you_o be_v sinful_a in_o we_o any_o more_o than_o your_o separate_n from_o parish-church_n sinful_a in_o you_o this_o we_o have_v already_o answer_v sect._n 52._o you_o add_v you_o say_v 3._o as_o the_o fatal_a apostasy_n from_o the_o pure_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n and_o primitive_a worship_n be_v gradual_a so_o be_v the_o recovery_n of_o the_o primitive_a purity_n gradual_a also_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o consideration_n and_o therefore_o i_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v unto_o it_o mr._n goodwin_n nine_o consideration_n that_o baptism_n with_o water_n be_v but_o a_o caâ—â—all_a ceremony_n so_o acknowledge_v by_o one_o of_o the_o grave_a author_n of_o the_o antipcedo_n baptistical_a say_v and_o therefore_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o make_v a_o partition-wall_n between_o the_o godly_a party_n of_o believer_n etc._n etc._n to_o this_o you_o say_v 1._o that_o though_o the_o say_a author_n call_v it_o a_o carnal_a ceremony_n yet_o the_o holy_a scripture_n have_v not_o so_o style_v it_o sect_n lxiv_o suppose_v the_o scripture_n have_v not_o so_o call_v they_o be_v they_o not_o soâ—_n be_v water_n any_o thing_n else_o but_o a_o outward_a thing_n be_v it_o a_o spiritual_a thing_n be_v dip_v wash_a sprinkle_v spiritual_a or_o carnal_a act_n be_v there_o any_o need_n that_o the_o scripture_n shall_v teach_v believer_n such_o thing_n as_o these_o 2._o you_o say_v mr._n â—_o call_v it_o a_o carnal_a ceremony_n only_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o outward_a act_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o spiritual_a design_n no_o more_o do_v mr._n goodwin_n or_o any_o other_o man_n and_o all_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n have_v not_o they_o a_o spiritual_a design_n of_o god_n in_o they_o 3._o you_o give_v we_o for_o your_o three_o answer_n what_o you_o do_v believe_v concern_v its_o give_v a_o man_n right_n unto_o church_n communion_n well_o i_o know_v your_o faith_n in_o this_o point_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o consideration_n propound_v mr._n goodwin_n ten_o consideration_n be_v thus_o ignorance_n in_o some_o thing_n among_o the_o saint_n appertain_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n render_v they_o not_o unclean_a one_o unto_o another_o nor_o be_v it_o a_o just_a ground_n of_o divide_v one_o from_o another_o etc._n etc._n to_o this_o you_o grant_v that_o ignorance_n in_o many_o thing_n of_o that_o nature_n be_v no_o ground_n of_o separation_n of_o mâ—n_z from_o church_n but_o ignorance_n in_o this_o point_n viz._n of_o baptism_n be_v such_o as_o it_o justifi_v such_o a_o separation_n because_o say_v you_o i_o have_v prove_v that_o for_o unbaptised_a person_n to_o join_v in_o church-fellowship_n be_v disorderly_a first_o you_o talk_v apace_o of_o your_o prove_v that_o which_o be_v yet_o never_o do_v and_o thereby_o prove_v indeed_o your_o own_o confidence_n but_o not_o hang_v else_o 2._o you_o have_v say_v nothing_o in_o this_o kind_n but_o you_o have_v have_v better_a proof_n to_o the_o contrary_a than_o you_o bring_v with_o you_o sect_n lxv_o 11._o consideration_n tender_v by_o m._n goodwin_n baptism_n be_v no_o constitute_v principle_n of_o a_o true_a church_n therefore_o separation_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o this_o or_o that_o manner_n of_o baptise_v be_v not_o warrantable_a there_o be_v nothing_o but_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n about_o it_o etc._n etc._n to_o this_o you_o say_v again_o you_o have_v prove_v it_o but_o where_o who_o can_v tell_v mr._n goodwin_n 12_o consideration_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o the_o scripture_n make_v mention_n of_o person_n that_o be_v unmeet_a for_o church-fellowship_n or_o christian_n communion_n they_o mention_v fornicator_n covetous_a idolater_n railer_n drunkard_n extortioner_n disorderly_a walker_n but_o never_o person_n of_o a_o holy_a and_o blameless_a conversation_n whether_o baptize_v or_o unbaptise_v etc._n etc._n you_o answer_v 1._o paul_n write_v to_o church_n who_o be_v all_o baptize_v 1_o cor._n 12.13_o he_o say_v we_o be_v all_o baptize_v etc._n etc._n sect_n lxvi_o brother_n take_v heed_n of_o handle_v the_o word_n of_o god_n deceitful_o where_o do_v the_o scripture_n say_v we_o be_v all_o baptize_v with_o water_n it_o be_v true_a it_o say_v we_o be_v all_o baptize_v by_o one_o spirit_n into_o one_o body_n take_v heed_n of_o legerdemain_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n be_v this_o good_a argue_v we_o be_v all_o baptize_v by_o one_o spirit_n ergo_fw-la we_o be_v all_o baptize_v with_o water_n i_o confess_v it_o be_v a_o inference_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n and_o kin_n as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o same_o flesh_n blood_n and_o bone_n as_o several_a the_o rest_n of_o your_o inference_n be_v do_v we_o deny_v that_o any_o believer_n mention_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o member_n of_o church_n be_v not_o baptize_v with_o the_o spirit_n do_v not_o you_o judge_v your_o holy_a and_o belove_a brethren_n etc._n etc._n baptize_v with_o the_o spirit_n though_o not_o baptize_v as_o you_o count_v baptism_n 2._o what_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o be_v all_o baptize_v will_v paul_n have_v they_o reject_v in_o case_n they_o be_v holy_a and_o worthy_a man_n and_o dare_v not_o be_v baptize_v for_o fear_n of_o offend_a god_n their_o conscience_n be_v weak_a in_o that_o point_n for_o want_n of_o light_n will_v he_o have_v reckon_v they_o among_o fornicator_n covetous_a idolater_n railer_n drunkard_n extortioner_n you_o reply_v i_o make_v little_a doubt_n but_o he_o will_v i_o tremble_v at_o your_o say_n be_v this_o like_o that_o sweet_a and_o bless_a nature_n of_o the_o father_n of_o mercy_n that_o pardon_v the_o ignorances_n of_o his_o people_n and_o judge_v of_o man_n according_a to_o what_o a_o man_n have_v and_o not_o according_a to_o what_o a_o man_n have_v not_o what_o to_o number_v a_o believer_n with_o the_o vile_a of_o sinner_n fornicator_n covetous_a idolater_n railer_n drunkard_n extortioner_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o banish_v he_o with_o they_o out_o of_o his_o house_n from_o his_o ordinance_n and_o this_o mere_o because_o that_o either_o he_o will_v not_o be_v dip_v and_o baptize_v again_o have_v in_o his_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n be_v baptize_v already_o or_o because_o he_o be_v ignorant_a that_o it_o be_v god_n mind_n it_o shall_v be_v so_o and_o there_o dare_v not_o be_v this_o consistent_a with_o that_o great_a love_n of_o god_n profess_v in_o scripture_n to_o they_o that_o be_v one_o in_o union_n and_o fellowship_n with_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n but_o what_o be_v your_o reason_n of_o this_o representation_n of_o god_n 1._o because_o christ_n be_v so_o full_o advise_v the_o disciple_n to_o punctuality_n in_o point_n of_o order_n 2_o 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