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A28912	Innocency cleared from lyes in answer or reply to some particular things, which them, who are scornfully called Quakers, are charged with in a book intituled, Malice stript and whipt, &c. : published by one who calls himself Samuel Smith, minster of the gospel, but his practise and bitter spirit maketh him manifest to be forth of the Doctrine of Christ, and that he is not guided by the same spirit which the ministers of Christ were, are guided by as hereafter may be made appear / by ... I.B.	J. B. (John Bowater), d. 1704.	1658 (1658)	Wing B3870; ESTC R18765	14,367	26

thereof contray to his first directions to the Constables to keep the peace he now gives directions to pull him down which stood peaceably it is like for any thing he knew preaching the word these directions was contrary to reason and the good Laws of this Nation and I hope the officers will learn more wisdome than to obey the directions of him or any other whose directions is contrary to the Law to disturbe peaceable men Smith Is it not a shame for him to declare this The Minister in the afternoon durst not go to the Church by which means the Congregation and other neighbour-Congregations that depend much upon his Ministry were disappointed of the word that day Answer A lamentation may be taken up for them that depend upon thee and thy Ministry or to receive the word from thy mouth who was afraid to maintaine what thou preaches to them why durst thou not goe to the Church as thou calls it would thou make the people beleeve thou was afraid of thy life 2 Tim. 1.7 8. Gen. 4.4 5 6 7 8. Psa 53.5 Pro. 27.1 was it not Cain that was afraid whose sacrifice God accepted not but it was Abel that was slain whose sacrifice God accepted it s well known though the Souldiers had their weapons about them who were then in service for the Common-wealth and present Government that the patience of their spirits was tryed that day when that by some of the people the Hilt of one of their Swords was broken the blade being in the Scabbard and yet the rest did no violence but this which thou hast done and said is to the shame of thy self and thy brethren is it not the marke of an hireling to fly and did not thou so when thou ceased at the midst of thy Sermon as it seems because a woman came into thy Congregation and yet said nothing as far as I understand by thy relation so that to thy shame thou hast related this that men may see thou was the cause of the disturbance who gave the officers directions to pull him down that stood peaceably who might have come away in peace for ought I know if thou hadst not been thou also sufferedst thy servants if thou didst not set them on to beat a Kettle and a Frying Pan purposely to disturb so that to thy shame thou may see what thou hast done and repent and some that have depended upon thee and thy Ministry I hope begins to see thee and will buy thy word no longer Smith And when thou comes to the title of the book thou examines thou saith this title Priest is here used in scorne and derision to the Ministers of the Gospel c. Answer Nay it is not given in derision to the Ministers of the Gospel for we doe not take thee for one though thou call thy self so and herein thou hast accused them but not proved it Ier. 5.30 31. but I shall prove Priests teach for hire Micah 3.11 and doth not thou so or thou takes tythes if thou doe it was they who receive the office of Priesthood have a commandement to take tythes of the people according to the Law and if thou be not a Priest Heb. 7.5 11.12 thou doth the people wrong to take tythes or hire from them for we doe not read in the Sccipture of truth that the Ministers of the Gospell were to receive tythes of the people but as they had received freely so they were to give and having food and rayment therewith to be content 1. Tim. 6.8 Smith Take notice of the confession of his Faith Saith I have so much faith to believe the time will come that the very name of a Quaker will be as odious in the Christian world as any heretique ever was since the days of Christ c. Answer Such as is within is now poured forth hast thou so much faith as to believe this But though thou strives to make the name of Quakers odious and doth exceed many that hath gone before thee yet thy labour is in vaine and thy faith also Phil. 2.12 13. for it will never be Odious amongst Christians but a wise man may easily see what thy faith tendeth to It was the practise of the Popish Bishops in the reign of Q. Mary to call the Martyrs heretiques so burn them I shall assure thee this faith of thine will get thee no cōmendation amongst honest men them that fear the Lord seeing thou believes that will be odious which the Lord approves Isaiah 66 2. saying to this man will I look even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit and trembleth at my word if this will be odious what then will be commendable Consider well of it and let us have a sober answer Smith Saith but you must let fly at that reverent judge he shall answer for himself and it is like he hath seen or will see this scandalous paper of yours cast out against him and against authority it self c. Answer Psal 58.1 Ps 2.10 11. Acts 10.42 What! Did they let fly against that reverend Iudge Did they let fly any thing but the truth And why might they not speak the truth though to a Iudge We know he shall answer for himself before the Iudge of quick and dead but if authority would believe thee thou wouldst surely incense them against these men but it is wisdom for authority to know the truth of both sides thou accuses or layes to their charge great things but as farre as I see proves nothing but it is no marvell since thou wouldst have their names to be so odious thou helps all thou can and to little purpose for thy work will turne to thy own shame and confusion if thou doe not repent And then thou writes or giveth a short relation of theirs which testifies of thy persecution of them who published it which because thou accuses them to be liers I shall briefly reply unto some particulars In thy examining of the narration where they are most concerned Narration Met in the name and fear of the Lord on the way near the steeple-house yard near Chrisag Smith Saith it seems these men are so full of the spirit that they have now learned to teach the holy spirit of God to speak and he alledges some Scriptures to justifie the very name of Church to our Temples as he calls them and further he saith take heed henceforth that no such language come out of your mouths as this steeple-house is least you be found amongst the number of Stephens persecutors Reply It seems thy tongue or pen is so accustomed to slandering that thou cannot cease Ps 52.2 3. saying they have now learned to teach the holy spirit of God to speak hear thou hast accused them and that concerning the things of God saying they have now learned to teach the holy spirit c. mayst thou not be ashamed to give such things under thy hand surely

INNOCENCY CLEARED FROM LYES IN In answer or reply to some particular things which them who are scornfully called Quakers are charged with in a book intituled Malice stript and whipt c. Published by one who calls himself Samuell Smith Minister of the Gospel but his practise and bitter spirit maketh him manifest to be forth of the Doctrine of Christ and that he is not guided by the same spirit which the Ministers of Christ were and are guided by as hereafter may be made appear Thus saith the Lord God because you have spoken vanity and seen lyes therefore behold I am against you saith the Lord God because with lyes ye have made the heart of the righteous sad whom I have not made sad and strengthned the hands of the wicked that he should not return from his wicked way by promising him life therefore ye shall see no more vanity nor divine divinations for I will deliver my people out of your hand and ye shall know that I am the Lord Ezek. 13.8.22 23. By one who desires that all men might come to do as they would be done unto I. B. London Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth neer Aldersgate 1658. To the sober Reader THis book or paper coming to my hands published by a pretended Minister of the Gospel wherein he pretends an examination of a late scandalous paper as he calls it published by certain Quakers now in the Gaol of Salop which paper I have seen and doe see he accuses the aforesaid men falsly as touching lyes and untruths and of bidding open defiance to Magistracy and Ministry to the making their names odious amongst men which they were worthy to bear if it were truth which he speaks and therefore I shall try his book intituled Malice stript and whipt c. in the things which most concern them that so thou who reads this and all sober minded men who hear it may iudge whether he be not a false accuser of them and of a bitter spirit yea or nay for this cause and that he may be a shamed of his folly these things following I write INNOCENCIE CLEARED from Lyes c. IT hath been commonly the practise of persecutors and enemies to the people of God but especially of the Priests Psa 37.12 to take away the good name of those they did envy and give unto them reproachfull names as this blasphemer sower of sedition ring-leader of Sects Hereticks Acts 16.19 20.21 Acts 22.22 23. and the like that so they might incense the Rulers and people against them to take away their lives which was the end they sought for witness what they called our Lord and Master Christ Iesus read Mark 14 63 64. And also what they said of Paul see Acts 24.5 6. and that the men in our generation Io. 8 48. Mat. 7.14 who are enemies to the Lords people may not come short but as far as their power reaches shew what spirit they are of that men may know their nature let us see what this pretended Minister saith concerning the book he examins Smith Saith not a book to be chained but let flying full of falshood lyes and untruths fit for the Devils patronage and further he saith and that which is more strange in a time of Parliament sitting bidding open defiance to Magistracy and Ministry c. Answer If these things which he here saith were true the condition of these men were to be lamented who published this book which he examines but I am sure if he had examined it with a single eye and without prejudice If the Magistrates would take this mans word without examination might not they become guilty of innocent blood he durst not have spoken these things saying it is full of lyes and untruths as though there were no truth in it and to incense the Magistrates against these men which is the thing he ayms at he saith bidding open defiance to Magistracy and Ministry but I beleeve it is good for the Magistrates to take heed how they beleeve such men as this Smith least they should punish the innocent to satisfie his will he hath heapt up a deal of accusations which sober minded men will see turne to his own shame for if he examine the book which he mentions all the days of his life he is not able out of it to prove the things he hath accused these men with which if he cannot prove must not he then of necessity be a false accuser and therefore if he take in hand to examine books it is best for him the next time to say no more than he is able to prove Smith Saith in his book William Baret Constable and Humfry Dale Church-warden according to the Ministers directions pulled down their speaker charging some to secure him and others also of their company were secured c. Answer Was ever the like heard of that a Minister of the Gospel as he pretends should give such directions as this and is not ashamed to publish it to the world but this will make his name to be known and also his nature that all honest men may take heed how they ioyn with him in persecuting the innocent let us reason with him a little he confesses he being acquainted with their damnable Tenents he indeavoured to discover them and to warn his people of them this being made known to them which he calls Quakers as he saith they gave it out they intended to preach at Cressag c. now this I say if he had spoken against this people Read 2 Tim. 2.24 25 26. verses 2 Cor. 6.3 4 5 6. And see how a servant of the Lotdor Minister should be qualified as it is likely by his words he had then it was but very equall and reasonable when they came so near him and that to preach too if he had come to them in the spirit of meekness being he pretends to be a Minister of the Gospel to have seen if he could have convinced them of any errour or damnable tenent before the people that so they might have been ashamed of it but it seems this he did not but to his own shame instead of doing so he hearing of their coming to preach at Gressag sent for the Constables and acquainted them therewith desiring them if they came to see the keeping of the peace and this was six weeks before to which I say the keeping of the peace is that which we desire and it is the office of Rulers to see the peace kept and to punish them that break the peace but though he had made it so sure of his side yet he came not to them to disprove their doctrine which had been a fit opportunity for him to have tryed if he could have disproved them seeing he had spoken against them in his publick Ministry it may be behinde their backs and so it had been but a reasonable thing to have maintained it to their faces but instead

if thou spoke what thou thought 2 Pet. 3 3. I would have thee to prove it if thou can otherwise if thou spoke what thou thought not art thou not found in the generation of scoffers and for the Scriptures thou alledges them I doe own but they doe not prove the Steeple-house a Church 1 Pet. 2.5 neither the house of God which likely is the end thou brings them for but the Scripture proves the Church is in God 1 Thes 1.1 And the Apostle Peter saith ye also as living stones Eph. 2.20 21. mark that are built up a spirituall house and are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Iesus Christ himself being the chief Corner stone in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth up an holy Temple in the Lord know you not that your bodies are the Temple of the Holy Ghost which if thou had known why didst thou stumble at their calling of the place builded of wood or stone a Steeple-house is not that the most fit name for if it have a Steeple where the Bell or Bells hang if it have we may call it so and yet not be found in the number of Stevens persecutors Mat. 10 16 17 18 but rather thou wilt be found in that number if thou seek to cast the innocent into prison and plead for the Temple which Steven witnessed against saying the most high dwelleth not in Temples made with hands which they that then upheld the Temple put Steven to death Acts 7. Narration The Priest stirred up the Iustices to grant a warrant to fetch in the innocent before the Iustice c. Smith Saith must you have liberty to rayl revile scandalize and disturbe the Ministers of Christ in doing their office away Animals away if the Gaol of Shrewsbury be not a means to recover your madness Bedlam is fittest for such men Reply Nay no such liberty doe we desire as this to rayl revile scandalize and disturbe the Ministers of Christ but this we desire which is reasonable to have liberty to speak the truth which we are able to prove by the Scriptures of truth and if any man accuse us especially if he pretend to be a Minister with the holding of damnable tenents as it is like this Smith hath done we desire that they might shew us in the spirit of meekness what these damnable tenents are that we might forsake them and if they accuse us falsly that they might repent and this liberty is but reasonable and not contrary to the Law of the Nation but it seems this Smith would have liberty to say what he will and none to say to him what dost thou but if they doe he will call them disturbers and the means he will use to recover them as it seems is Shrewsbury Gaol or else Bedlam which is a means the Ministers of Christ never used that ever I read of in the Scriptures of truth but it hath been the custome of that Synagogue of Satan at Rome and their adherents when they could not bring men into submission to what they falsly called truth then under the name of Hereticks or disturbers of the peace those that would not submit to them they put to some cruell death or else kept them in prison and shamefully entreated them which is the way this Smith would take it seems to recover those which will not beleeve what he saith to be true but it is good for the Rulers to take heed that they doe not consents least they should become guilty of innocent blood for by this he hath made himself manifest to all the children of light what spirit he is of Narration And the innocent there accused could have proved the Priests man forsworne but could not be heard Smith Saith be it known unto all men by these presents that the Quakers in Shrewsbury Gaol are not perfect nor without sin unless their tenents be which I shall not wonder at that lying is no sin c. Reply Here thou gives out as though they were lyers pretending thou hath some ground or colour for it if any of the books came to thy hand uncorrected but to take away the ground or colour of thy accusing them this I say I have seen their Manuscript and it is there the innocent there accused could have proved the Priests man forsworn speaking of thy servant and besides they can prove many of the books they corrected though may be some might escape their hands and if there was nothing near to thee which accused thee why did thou take it to thy self if thou had dealt honestly thou would not have catcht at a letter being set wrong knowing that a fault may be in printing as I might instance in thy book or else thou hast done very sottishly but this I pass not loving to strive about words having taken thy ground or colour of accusing them away they are clear and are able to prove what they intended which was concerning thy man-servant being forsworne which may be a shame unto thee to keep such in thy house it may be thou thought thou might say what thou would when thou had them in Shrewsbury Gaol which is the means thou will use to recover them or else Bedlam surely thy Bretheren and the men of thy own generation will be ashamed of this Io. 8.44 or else their merchandize will savour evill in the Nostrels of all honest men and for our tenents being such that lying is no sin I utterly deny for lying is of the Devill he is the Father of it and all unrighteousness is sin so they being clear of what thou accused them with let him that 's wise judge who is fallen into the pit Narration And being carryed to prison we remained till the next day c. Smith It is well you will sometime speak the truth c. Reply I say it is well thou hast confest this out of thy own mouth be thou judged whether thou be a lyer yea or nay thou saith toward the beginning of thy Book speaking of theirs that it was full of falshoods lys and untruths now if it had been ful of falshoods lys and untruths as thou saith then how could they sometime speak the truth in it be thou judge of this matter and he that deserves the shame let him take it Narration Neither did we any thing contrary to sound doctrine for there is nothing mentioned in the Scripture of putting off the Hat c. Smith VVhere was that honour you owed as due to the Magistrate when you came and presented your selves in the face of the Court and presence of the Iudge in that rude uncivill and contemptuous manner neither putting off the Hat nor bowing before him which the fifth Commandement commands c. Reply They honoured the Magistrate with as much honour as that thou tells of which Paul gave to Festus and King Agrippa he called them by the titles which belonged to them and so did they him who