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A47602	Pedo-baptism disproved being an answer to two printed papers (put forth by some gentlemen called the Athenian Society, who pretend to answer all questions sent to them of what nature soever) called the Athenian Mercury, one put forth November 14, the other November 28, 1691 : in which papers they pretend to answer eight queries about the lawfulness of infant-baptism : likewise divers queries sent to them about the true subjects of baptism, &c.	Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704.	1691 (1691)	Wing K79; ESTC R12897	42,621	35

the Imperative Mood O strange have you found it out will this do your business doth it therefore contain the other two I ask you whether a Man may not be made a Disciple and not be Baptized or be Baptized and yet not be discipled Matth. 13. 52. 't is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Matth. 28. 't is disciple ye here 't is discipled instructed or that is taught and 't is from the same Verb with the other 'T is evident notwithstanding all your Flourish that Teaching according to the Order of the Commission goes and must go before Baptizing though the Person baptized is to be taught afterwards also all things that Christ commanded his Disciples both as to Doctrine and Practice that so they may be faithful Followers of Christ unto the end This Teaching after Baptism indeed the Baptists cannot deny unless they should be so foolish as to say a Baptized Believer needs no further teaching c. but you know in your Consciences we deny and that too by the Authority of the Commission that any ought to be Baptized but such who are made Disciples by their first being taught Doth Baptism Sirs make either Children or others Disciples if you do not asfert that what do you say and if all Nations or any in the Nations are to be Baptized before they are taught or made Disciples why may not a Minister by the Authority of the Commission baptize Turks Pagans and Infidels with their Children as well as the Infants of Christian People Moreover if so be Baptizing may go before Teaching or Persons being made Disciples why did Philip answer the Eunuch after that manner when he asked him why he might not be Baptized the Answer is If thou believest with all thy Heart thou mayest intimating unless he so believed he might not Also why did Christ make Disciples first and then baptize them Ioh. 4. 1. I must also tell you that your Exposition of the Commission in Matthew doth tend to invert the Order of the same Commission in Mark 16. 15 16. where our Saviour commands his Disciples to go and preach the Gospel to every Creature and then saith He that believeth and is Baptized shall be 〈…〉 't is not he that is baptized and the●●●lieveth But to give divers godly and learned Pedo-Baptists their due they I find dare not attempt to invert the Order of the Holy Commission as you seem to do though it shakes the Foundation of their own Practice See Reverend Mr. Perkins on these Words Teach all Nations baptizing them saith he I explain the former thus First of all it is said Teach them that is make them my Disciples by teaching them to believe and repent Here we are to consider the Order which God observes in making with Men a Covenant in 〈…〉 first of all he calls them by his W●●d and Spirit to believe and repent Then in the second Place he makes a Promise of Mercy and Forgiveness And then thirdly he seals his Promise by Baptism They says he that know not nor consider this Order which God used in covenanting with them in Baptism deal preposterously over-slipping the Commandment of repenting and believing and is the cause of so much Prophaneness in the World Much to the same Purpose saith Mr. Baxter Right to Baptism p. 149 150. speaking of the Order of this Commission Christ gave to his Disciples Their first Task says he is to make Disciples which are by Mark called Believers The second Work is to baptize them whereto is annexed the Promise of Salvation The third Work is to teach them all other things which are after to be learned in the School of Christ To contemn this Order saith he is to contemn the Rules of Order for where can we find it if not here I profess my Conscience is fully satisfied from this Text that ●●ere is one sort of Faith saving that must go before Baptism the Profession whereof the Minister must expect Your second Scipture-Ground is that of whole Families being baptized Reply You cannot be ignorant that this Proof hath been often invalidated How many Families are there in this City in which there is not one Infant Besides 't is said Paul preached the Word to the Jailor and to all in his House also 't is expresly said He believed in God with all his House We have as much Ground to believe that in these Families there were some Servants or Children who were Unbelievers as to belie●● there were little Babes and because whole Housholds are said to be baptized therefore unbelieving Servants Sons and Daughters as well as lit●●● Children Others may infer ungodly Servants and unbelieving Children that were grown up to be Men and Women w●●● baptized also in those Families In Jailors Families now a-days 't is evident there are too many wicked and ungodly ones and this Jailor was none of the best before converted 't is plain Besides whol●●●r all doth not comprehend always every individual Person as 1 Sam. 21. 28. Moreover Dr. Hammond saith That to conclude Infants were baptized because Housholds are mentioned so to be is saith he unconvincing and 〈…〉 Demonstration it being so uncertain whether there were any Children in those Families His Letter p. 471. Sect. 21. Your third Scripture-Ground is that of the Promise you say Covenant made to you and 〈…〉 Children Reply How often have we shewed that this Text proves not that any Children quatenus as such should be baptized nor as such that they are in the Covenant of Grace or have the Promise made to them the Promise runs to the Jews and to their Offspring and not to them only but to Gentiles also who were said to be afar off But prav●observe 't is to no more of the Jews and their Children or Offspring and such who were afar off than the Lord shall call or make Disciples by the Word and effectual Operations of the Holy Spirit My Sons and Daughters are as much my Children when they are twenty or thirty Years old as well as when Babes Dr. Hammond also grants Children in this Text doth not refer to Insants as such but to the Posterity of the Jews p. 490. Sect. 81. If ye be Christ's then you are Abraham's Seed and Heirs according to the Promise The Children of the Flesh saith Paul these are not the Children of God but the Children of the Promise are accounted for the Seed Rom. 9. 8. Not if you he the Offspring of Abraham according to the Flesh or Seed of Believers Your fourth Scripture-Proof is that of such is the Kingdom of Heaven Reply This proves no more Children ●●●ght to be baptized than they ought to receive the Lord's Supper Baptism being a mere positive Precept and only depends upon the Will and sovereign Pleasure of the great Law-giver Jesus Christ A thousand such Instances prove not they ought to be baptized except there was a Precept annexed or Precedent for it in God's Word Besides of such c. as one well

that we should believe that the Mosaick Law either was or ought to be understood therefrom much less the Gospel to which they are professed Enemies The Talmud is called a Labyrinth of Errors and the foundation of Jewish Fables it was perfected and acknowledged for Authentick five hundred Years after Christ and out of it Maimonides drew his Doctrine as all the rest of them therefore we cannot acquiesce in such Testimony Gentlemen either answer no more Questions about Religion or take more heed to what you say for your pleading for Infant-Baptism from such grounds all may perceive tends to cast an Odium and Contempt on the Christian Religion Therefore I infer your Proof for this Practice from the Custom amongst the Jews about baptizing of Proselytes both Men Women and Children proves nothing you were better for the Authority of it to urge the Decrees of Popes and General Councils a Popish Innovation is as good as a Jewish one But however you do allow that our blessed Saviour did add something to this pretended Jewish Custom and hath not only put it in full force but also made it a Consignation or Seal of the Covenant and this say you is further strengthened by several undeniable Texts of Scripture which Anabaptists themselves can never get clear of and ask them they must either be silent or give such a Paraphrase as we do The Texts are these First Col. 2. 11 12. In whom also ye are circumcised with the Circumcision made without hands in putting off the Body of the Sins of the Flesh by the Circumcision of Christ Buried with him in Baptism c. The second that of baptizing the Israelites in the Red-Sea 1 Cor. 10. 2. The last is the saving of Noah and his Family in the Ark 1 Pet. 3. 21. Reply 1. But is it so indeed did our Saviour in instituting Gospel-Baptism do no more than put a Jewish Custom to be in full force and make it a Consignation or Seal of the Covenant Were you not learned and ingenious Men I should not so much admire at your Notions 2. But the Truth is in the second place if you had not told us in your next words to what purpose you mention those Scriptures we should have been at a great loss about it or not well have understood your Intention but you like the ingenious Painter soon inform us and tell us what 't is i. e. you tell us you urge not these things to prove any thing else but the Parallel betwixt Circumcision and Baptism or to speak say you more properly the necessary continuance of the old Manner amongst the Jews of continuing their way of proselyting the Heathen 3. Was it necessary then that a human Tradition of the Jews should be continued I am sure the Apostle tells you that Christ nailed all the Jewish Ceremonies of the Mosaical Law to the Cross and that they all ceased when the Antitype was come and besure had the Baptism you speak of been indeed a Mosaical Rite I mean appointed or commanded of God it had vanished with its Fellows But 't is hard Christ should abolish all Legal Customs or Ceremonial Ordinances and yet confirm with some addition a Custom of the Jews own inventing 4. You do not seem to distinguish between your twofold Answer to the Question I thought you had brought those Scriptures to prove Baptism the proper Antitype of Circumcision but you urge the former old Custom again so that here 's no Scripture nor Argument brought by you to prove the thing in hand As touching what you say of the Parallel betwixt Circumcision and Baptism signifies nothing if in some things there should be a Parallel it doth not follow therefore Baptism was the Antitype of Circumcision What tho Circumcision was the initiating Ordinance of the Male Children into the Jewish Church and Baptism is that initiating Ordinance into the Gospel-Church this doth not prove the one the Type of the other 5. But pray what is it that the Anabaptists can never get clear of or being ask'd the Exposition they must be silent or give such a Paraphrase as you do I must tell you I know no Text more full for our practice of baptizing Believers than that in Col. 2. 11 12. We say from thence that the proper Antitype of Circumcision in the Flesh is the Circumcision of the Heart and therefore not Baptism tho 't is granted by us that in Baptism there is a Representation of the new Birth and Mortification of Sin which Circumcision was the express Type of And this cannot weaken nor silence us but rather strengthen our hands All that can well be inferred from this Text Col. 2. 11 12. where the Apostle mentions Circumcision and Baptism is no more than this viz. Where Baptism is administred upon a proper Subject it represents the Spiritual and Mystical Circumcision of the Heart i. e. that the Soul is dead to Sin or that he hath put off the Body of Sins of the Flesh by the Circumcision of Christ which may refer to the Power of his Death in the Effects thereof by the effectual Sin-killing Operations of the holy Spirit on the Heart And as we being dead to Sin we are also buried with Christ in Baptism both in the Sign i. e. covered all over in the Water which resembles in a lively Figure his Burial and also in Signification i. e. the Power and blessed Effects of his Death having been the Death of the old Man or that Body of Sin in us● wherein also in like manner we are also risen with him through the Faith of the Operation of God and this is likewise held forth both in Sign and Signification in true Baptism Now if this be not your Paraphrase on this Text we cannot help it I know many Learned Men who own Pedo-Baptism speak to the same purpose nor is there any reason for you to say we must be silent c. as if we knew not what to say to this Text But what is this for Infant-Baptism or to prove Baptism the Antitype of Circumcision Doth Sprinkling represent a Burial doth the Sign or Figure of Christ's Burial appear in sprinkling a little Water on the Face and as it is done to Infant in whom Faith and Regeneration is not wrought what doth there appear in Signification Doth not the Church of England say that Baptism is the outward Sign of an inward spiritual Grace sure that is but a mock-Baptism where there is neither the Sign or Figure of Christ's Death and Burial c. nor that inward Work wrought upon the Person baptized which is signified or ought to be signified thereby viz. That the said Person is dead to Sin and raised up by the Faith of the Operation of God to walk in newness of Life But alas this it seems is not the thing 't is not so much to prove Baptism to be the Antitype of Circumcision as 't is to prove Baptism to be the continuation of a Jewish Custom

or natural Seed as such Now is the Ax laid to the Root of the Trees Fourthly Your citing Heb. 8. and Jer. 31. to shew what Baptism seals to Infants proves nothing We deny not but all who are actually in the New Covenant viz. by Faith ingra●ted into Christ have right to Remission and Salvation and that that Covenant secures and preserves them to Eternal Life therefore the Children of Believers as such are not in it And if they are no otherwise in it than conditionally that is if they repent believe c. I ask you what Priviledg that is more than what the Children of Heathens and Infidels have 〈◊〉 if they believe and repent shall they not have the same Blessings Priviledges of the Covenant also As to the Adult Professors we say if they fall finally away it shews they never indeed were in the Covenant of Grace As to Adult true Believers the Holy Spirit seals Remission and Salvation to them and they shall be saved a sign of what is actually in them is held forth in Baptism there being nothing signified by that Ordinance as to a Death unto Sin but what they experienced wrought on their Souls before Baptized tho 't is true they thereby for the time to come covenant to walk in newness of Life Fifthly As touching the great Commission Mat. 28. where you urge Baptizing goes before Teaching we have fully answered you in the precedent Reply we prove there is a Teaching goes before Baptism and yet also a Teaching after Why do you attempt to blind the Eyes of the unwary Reader Sixthly To what purpose do you mention Jairus's Daughter do we deny but that the Parents Faith and Prayer may procure outward Blessings nay and spiritual Ones too and as much perhaps for their poor carnal Neighbours and Friends My Servant Job shall pray for you The fervent Prayer of a Righteous Man availeth much but it doth not give Right to their Friends or Children to Baptism Seventhly As to your Syriac Translation that the Jaylor and all the Sons of his House were Baptized I argue All his Sons no doubt were grown up to Age because 't is said he believed with all his House If he had Sons grown up and yet did not believe then by your Argument Unbelievers may be Baptized but to this see our Answer Eighthly As to your proof from that Passage i. e. Suffer little Children to come unto me Take the words definitely or indefinitely it proves nothing for you for Christ Baptized no Child for with his own Hands he Baptized no Person at all Joh. 4. 1 2. 't was to lay his Hands upon them not to Baptize them Moreover I have before told you those little Ones Mark 9. 42. were Adult Whosoever shall offend one of these little Ones that believe in me I affirm our Saviour speaks only of such little Ones as were grown up to such Age as in very deed did believe in him and not Babes of two or ten day● old But you say we would have no Children proselyted but such as Timothy c. To which you answer That according to the Original those Children that did 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which word we have shewed signifies any common coming and may be such who come in their Parents Arms Let Babes come to Christ this way or that he baptized none of them I may infer as well because little Children come or were brought to Christ and of such are the Kingdom of Heaven therefore they may partake of the Lord's Supper as you infer they may be Baptized Ninthly Tho the Gospel did not spread into all Nations c. yet sure you conclude all were to be baptized in all Nations wheresoever the Gospel did come or was preached or else as we say none in those Nations but such who were made Disciples i. e. did believe and repent for if but some in those Nations ●here the Gospel comes were to be Baptized and not all and yet more ought so to be then such who are discipled first Pray who are they or how shall we know them to be included in the Commission For as Mr. Baxter saith If we have it not here where have we it this being the great Rule or Charter of the Church for this Rite unto which we ought to adhere in this Matter Tenthly What signifies what some of the Ancient Fathers believed i. e. That Federal Holiness of Parents made Children Candidates for Baptism They said other things too that you decry as well as we many Errors being early let into the Church Besides we have Tertullian against Tertullian or one Father against another which is ground enough to believe you abuse Tertullian or to doubt of the truth of your History Eleventhly You ask whether Children have not as much right to their Baptism as that of Adult Females for 't is no where said she that believeth and is baptized where have we one Instance of Female-Baptism Reply We ak you whether Male and Female is not intended in Mark 16. 16. he or she and so John 3. 3. Unless a Man be bor● again the Woman is included or have Women no Souls Did you never read of the Figure Sylepsis or Conceptio that comprehends the less worthy under the more worthy indignioris sub dign●ore as for Example ●uid tu soror facitis 〈…〉 mater miseri perimus●●● uxor qui ad●●stis testes estote and it 's no less true in Divinity see that full and never to be baffled place 1 Cor. 6. 16. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 They two shall be one Flesh See Gen. 5. 2. And he called their Name Adam Moreover do we not read Women were made Disciples as well as Men and so had the same right to Baptism from the Commission But to detect your Ignorance of the Scripture pray see Acts 8. 12. When they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the Kingdom of God and the Name of Jesus Christ they were baptized both ●●n and Women Also Acts 16. 15. 't is said Lydia was baptized I thought she had been a Woman Gentlemen you shew you are but younger Brethren and will do t●●● edobaptists no Service shew such a Proof for the Baptism of Infants and your work is done But tho Children lose no spiritual Right by Christ's coming yet they may lose some Legal Rites As Ministers Sons now are not born to the Ministry●●s they were under the Law as well as their Fleshly Seed had right as such to their Jewish Church Membership Furthermore because Believers are made holy by the Operations of the Spirit are all their Children made holy in like manner also Blush for Christ's sake The Blessing of Abraham Sirs only comes upon the Gentiles through Faith not by natural Generation as you imagine As the Blessing runs to the Parents viz. through Faith so to their Children they must believe also if they would be the Children of the Promise or Spiritual Seed of Abraham Gal. 3. ult