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A18003	A discourse, concerning two diuine positions The first [ef]fectually concluding, that the soules of the faithfull fathers, deceased before Christ, went immediately to heauen. The second sufficientlye setting foorth vnto vs Christians, what we are to conceiue, touching the descension of our Sauiour Christ into hell: publiquely disputed at a commencement in Cambridge, anno Domini 1552. Purposely written at the first by way of a confutation, against a booke of Richard Smith of Oxford, D. of Diuinity, entitled a Refutation, imprinted 1562, & published against Iohn Caluin, & C. Carlile: the title wherof appeareth in ye 17. page. And now first published by the said Christopher Carlile, 1582.	Carlile, Christopher, d. 1588?	1582 (1582)	STC 4654; ESTC S107537	141,619	356

onely guided by the Spirite whiche ledde them into all truthe If it ledde them into all truthe what neded they of any other rule was not he suffitient had they not receyued the Spirite abundantly coulde they erre It is an absurdyty to prescribe an order to them that were the authors of order or to assigne them a rule that ruled all or that laide the foundation of Doctrine to wauer in Doctrine or that were the teachers of faithe to be ignorant of the will of God Coulde the Spirite of God erre whiche taughte them all and ledde them into all truthe Wherefore you sée what holde you haue and what your authority is Smith Iohn herolte a frier Dominique in the yeare of Christ. 1494. writeth in his 146. sermone that the apostels made this erede in the councell at Hierusalem Act. 15. Carlil H●…w do these two doctors agrée the one olde the other new the one saith that it was made immediatly after Christes ascension the other 17. or 18. yeares after or aboue This is a good argument How could the twelue Apostels make it so many yeares after the assension of Christ when as there were some of them that had suffered death for Iames brother to Iohn the sonne of Zebede was beheaded by Herode Agrippa And this was done 7. or 8. yeares or more before the councell holden in the Art 15. Moreouer the other apostels were dispersed some into one place some into others as Phillipp in Scythia Bartholomewe in Lycaonia India and Armenia Mathew in Aethyopia Thomas in Parthya Media Persia Germanya Hyrcania and Bactria Now if there were none of the Apostels at the councell holden at Hierusalē act 15. saue Iames Iohn ●… Peter then were not all the Apostels there to put to euery man his sentence if it had bene made there then woulde either Peter Iohn Iames or Luke who wrote the rest ●…o exactly haue made mention of ●…t Smith They made the twelue articles as a Som of our faith and cal●…ed it Symbolum for that euery apostell added one peice Peter I beleue ●…n God the father almighty Carlil Iohn Herolte sai●…h that Peter ●…ade I beleue in God the father al●…ighty the maker of heauen and ●…arth Pseudo Augustine deniethe that ●…nd saith that Peter made but the ●…ne halfe of that sentence For the ●…tter parte sayth he made Iohn Augustine make th two articles of it Herolte but one Augustine saithe that Peter Iohn made these two Herolte that Peter made both Herolte saithe that Iohn made this And in Iesus Christe his only sonne our Lord. Pseudo Augustine sait●… that Iames the greater made that This Herolte deniethe and sayth●… that Iohn the Euangeliste made it Augustine maketh this the third●… Article Herolte the seconde Andrewe Who was couceaued by he holye Ghost borne of the Vi●…gine Mary Pseudo Augustine makethe thi●… the fourth article Herolt the third Pseudo Augustine saith that Andrewe made it Herolte that Iam●… the greater brother to Iohn the Euangeliste made it who was the●… dead as it is manyfest in the Act●… 12. Iohn Herolte here forgetteth●… himselfe for he said in the begi●…ning of his Sermon y ● this Cr●… was made in the councell at Hierusalem And this Iames was behea●… ded by Herode longe before as is mauifest in Act. 12. Mendacem me●…orem esse oportet Phillip Suffered vnder Pontius Pilate Crucified dead and Buryed Herolte saythe that Andrewe made this Pseudo Augustine maketh this the fist Article Herolte the fourth Thomas say●…he Hee descended into Hell the thirde daye hee rose from ●…he deade Herolte saythe that Phi●…ip made this former parte Pseudo Augustine saith that Thomas made it all Herolte maketh He descended into Hell a whole Article Pseudo Augustine makethe it but ●…alfe and addeth The thirde daye ●…e rose from the dead I maruell that they wyll father ●…his vpon Phillip whose Creede ●…s it is writen in Pirianius leaueth out this patche Herolte sayth that Thomas made The third daye he rose agayne frō the deade Pseudo Augustine ioyneth this w t Christes going to Hel and ascribethe it to Thomas on●… Bartholmewe He ascended into he●… uen sittethe on the righte hande God the father Almightye in 〈◊〉 they bothe agree Mathewe Fr●… thence hee shall come to Iudge 〈◊〉 quicke and the dead Iames the le●… I beleue in the holy Ghost the h●… Catholique Churche Pseudo A●… gustine makethe this one Articl●… Herolte maketh it twayne P●… Augustine maketh it the 9. Arti●… Herolte makethe y ● latter parte●… 10. Simon Zelotes The Commun●… of Sayntes Remission of sinnes 〈◊〉 rolte maketh the 10. Article o●… The holy Catholique Church 〈◊〉 Augustine makethe this Articl●… parte of the 9. Herolte maketh●… the 10. Indas Thaddeus The Re●… rection of the flesh Herolt He●… Vrinaria make the 11. Article T●… Communion of Sayntes remis●… on of sinnes Pseudo Augustine 〈◊〉 keth it the 10. Herolte the 11. P●… August ascribeth it to Simon 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Herolte to Iudas Thaddeus Mathias added Euerlasting lyfe Herolt saythe that he made The Resurrection of the flesh euerlasting lyfe Here you see y ● disagremēt betwene 〈◊〉 whom they say was S. August Herolte Henry Vrinaria There is no lesse variety and inconstauncy in the rest of the schoolmen In S. Augustines time they were not digested in that order as they ●…ée nowe For hee leauethe out the goinge of Christ into Hell lyfe euerlastinge Chrisostome leauethe ●…ut The Comunion of Sayntes and in his former exposition he omit●…eth Descendit ad Inferos and in the ●…atter he sayth Descendit ad Inferos was y ● Christ was dead buryed and w t him raysed a great nomber of bodyes for he was y ● first fruites of them that sleeped and the firste borne frō y ● dead wherby you may easely vnderstand that the Gréeke Doctors vnderstande by Hades the graue w e hath bene translated he Hiero. August and Ambr. say th●… this Crede came from the Apostle whiche can not be perswaded to●… Valla a Gentl. of Italye and a singuler Iudgment 1. Marcellus in Epiph. sayth that 〈◊〉 receyued this sayth of y ● Scriptu●… Elders not w tstanding he leaue●… out this article of his going to h●… 2. Ignatius hathe a perfect Crede many of the Articles of oure co●… Creede but neuer one woorde Christes going to Hell 3. Neither in his epistle to y ● Ephe●… where hee confesseth his Béelye●… twyse 4. Neither in his epistle to y ● Ro●… Theoderet Dial. 1. immut 5. Neither in his Epist. to y ● Tra●… lians Theod. Dial. 1. Immut 6. Polycarpus in an epistle to th●… Phillipians vtterethe the mistery of Christes Natiuity Deathe an●… Resurrection but this addition h●… leaueth out 7. Iustinus Martyr doth most manifestly and exactly declare Christes Passion Deathe and Resurrectiō of this neuer a worde 8.

going downe of Christ into his Graue saythe that he rose againe w t a great nomber of bodyes and you vnderstand his going downe to Hell of his Soule Consider what you write expende what you speake bee well aduised how you alleadge the old Aucthors do not betraye them do not falsefy them do not deceiue the simple w t your vnwritten verities who vnrerstand not who canne not haue those Bookes whiche you doe alleadge Smith Did not he lead Captiuitye captiue and gaue gyftes to men Were not these Captiues the fathers that were in Limbo or such as were in Purgatory Carlil If this place be vnderstanded of CHRIST his ascension then must we nedes interprete this captiuity of suche as rose with him who also ascended withe him Chrisostome expoundethe yt as I do Haymo hath diuers expositions tending to this purpose Christ triumphed ouer deathe Sathan and synne and ouercame thē by his deathe resurrection and ascension and gaue gyftes to men euen the giftes of the Holy Ghoste whiche gyftes he receiued of them for he crownethe his gyftes in vs and his gyftes are called ours by participation for hee communicatethe his gyftes withe vs and our gyftes are his for of him they come Christ saythe Theoderet deliuered vs captiued with synne ty●…d withe the chaynes of iniquitye he hathe set vs at liberty giuen vs the grace of the Holy Ghost hathe heaped his mercy and liberal kindnes vpon vs. Of this place I haue noted vpon the threscore and eighte psalme and Ephesians 4. wherfore I shall not néede to repeate anye more in this place Smith Did not he●… discend into lowest partes of the earthe What other thinge can you call the lowest partes of the earthe then hell Carlil I will not dispute withe you where hell is at this time neither whether it bee in the earthe or not Of the whiche I haue discoursed a litle after Notwithstanding Pauls meaning is that Christ. who ascended is euen he that descended héere into the earthe And although that his manhoode came not from Heauen yet his Godhead did and entered into the Uirgin Mary and tooke fleshe vpon him so that here he calleth the Uirgins wombe the lowest partes of the earthe So doth Dauid cal his mothers wombe wherein hee was fashioned and enclosed as in a place vnder the earth Chrisostome saythe that Paule callethe the inferiour partes of the earthe his Deathe whiche hee suffered in earthe and after the whiche he did offende for sayth he after a manner of speaking Iacob sayde ye shall bring myne olde age to deathe so hee tearmethe Inferos And Theodoret also callethe them his deathe Was his death in Hell Did not he dye in Egipt was Egipt Hell Photius and Aecumenius call these inferiour partes CHRIST his graue Smith Did not Christ preache in Hell to the disobedient spirits Carlil Were these disobdient spirits in y e lowest hell or in y e highest called Purgatory w e you or in the highest but one called Limbus patrū w t you In y e lowest you say Christ preached not for as you holde he was not there in Limbo patrum hee was not for they were in Heauen by the same Faythe that wee haue neither were they disobedient In Purgatorye these disobedient were not whiche woulde bee brought to no Repentaunce by any preachinge or exhortation for in Purgatorye you say that they may do repent but these did not repēt wherefore the Lord sent suche abundance of water that they were al drowned saue Noac Sem Cham Iaphet and their wyues Let vs trāslate y e text according to y e greke It is good surely Because it is the will of God to suffer for well doinge and not for euell doing For Christ likewise hath once suffered for sinnes the iust for the Iniust that he might bring vs to God hee suffered death as concerning his flesh but was reuiued by the spirite In the which also he went and prea ched to those spirites that were in prison Whiche were Desperate at that tyme at what tyme the longe Sufferinge of GOD did tarry once in the dayes of NOAC what tyme the Arke was in preparinge in the whiche a fewe that is to say eighte personnes were Saued by the water Vnto the which baptisme whereby we are saued is compared which is not the putting away of the fylth of the flesh but the testimony of a good conscience towarde God by the resurrection of Iesu Christ. Thus farr the text after my translation Peter exhorteth all men to suffer for well doing by the example o●… Christ who suffered deathe a●… concerning his flesh his body dyed and was buried notwithstanding●… it rose againe by the power of his owne Spirite whiche is the Holy Ghost In the whiche Spirite h●… went in the dayes of Noe an●… being within Noe forced Noe t●… preache and therefore hée is sayd●… to preache to those euill Spirites to the desperate Spirites and rebells whiche were in the pryson●… of their bodyes for the body wa●… as a prysone wherein theire Spirites and soules were contained And these saythe Peter were those euill men whiche were desperate and rebells to God euen at that tyme what time the long suffer 〈◊〉 of God the clemency of the Lorde the Spirite of Iehoua Christes deuine nature did geue them tyme ●…o repente 120. Yeares loked for their amendement And this saith Peter was in the dayes of Noe all the tyme that the arke was a preparinge in the whiche Noe wythe his thrée sonnes Sem Cham and ●…aphet with their foure Wiues were saued by the force of the wa●…er that bare vp the arke ●…nto the whiche water Baptisme ●…s compared or a Figure signe or Sacrament correspondent to this ●…ater for as they were saued by ●…heir fayth and by the helpe of the ●…ater from drownyng so are wée ●…y Baptysme and that throughe ●…is resurrection For as Christe ●…ose againe beinge dead a gloryous ●…odye so ryse wée beinge as it were ●…uryed in Baptisme to walke in a ●…ew lyfe Whiche Baptisme is a Testimony of a good conscience towarde God as I haue translated the place And this is a perfect definition of Baptisme Reade more of this matter in my notes vppon the. 1. of Peter 3. Here you may s●… that this place declareth the death and resurrection of Christ and th●… Diuine nature of Christ which●… is here called his Spirite For h●… had power to geue vp his life t●… take it a gaine Hethereto I ha●… repeated the text and after it th●… whole and true sense paraphrastycally Now I will proue that this Spirite is the diuine nature of Christ Secondlye that these Spirites t●… whome the Spirite of Christ preached were the euell men that liu●… in the tyme of NOAC vnto whi●… NOAC preached beinge endue●… and

not made in Hell but in Syrya about Libanus Wherefore this Spirite of Christ preached not in hell You say that CHRIST delyuered them that were in the state of Saluation either such faithefull Fathers as were in Limbus Patrum or suche as were neither so good as to bée in Limbus nor so despreate as to be in hell but to be as Newters and in a meane and therefore in purgatory But Peter saythe that this Spirite of CHRIST perached to the Obstynate and Desperate Gyantes and that in the dayes of NOAC If hée had preached in Hell should not hee as well haue Preached to CAIN and suche other as were before the floude as to ESAV and IVDAS and suche like whiche were after the floude If hée Preached to the Faithfull as you saye why dothe hée name the vnfaithfull Wherefore PETERS meanynge ys easelye to bée perceiued of the wise well knowen of the learned and fully awnswered to them that will not cal white black and blacke white If we should say saith Augustine that they that are in hell can beleue in Christ what absurdities should folowe contrary to our faith And howe coulde they haue bene deliuered out of hell if they had not beleued in him is there any deliuery any saluation any redemtion without him This place of Peter saith Augustine doth not pertaine to hell but to those dayes rather of Noac the forme whereof he applieth to these dayes Thus much Augustine with a manifest explanatiō of this place after the same order and maners that I do The Spirite of Christe preached where there was amendemente of Lyfe and there where the floud ouerflowed where the arke was made were 120. Yeares of repentance was giuen where eight persones were saued where Noe preached but none of these were in hell ergo this place is not vnderstand of Christ beinge in hell Smith I haue a place out of Peter that shall proue mine intent substan cially fortifie it strongly conclude with me effectually to the abolishment of all your argumentes and ex positions Doth not Peter say that the Gospell was preached to the dead and who are they that were dead were they not they that were in hell or rathere in purgatorye and in Limbus Carlil If you say that the Gospell was preached vnto the dead you either meane them that were a liue then when Peter liued and dead in synne which are all they that will not beleue as Lira expoūdeth this place or els ye meane thē that are dead and departed out of this life Smyth I meane that the Gospell was preached to the dead Carlil The dead are not called the Soules that liue but the bodyes which are dead You holde that the Fathers that were in Hell did liue Smyth So I holde Carlil Ergo they were not deade but you saye in this obiection that the Gospell was preached too th●… dead Are not the dead bodyes without Senses can they sée can the●… heare whose eares are in the earth●… consumed by tyme a●…d eaten with wormes Neither is this worde dead take●… at any tyme for them that liue 〈◊〉 the other life but is onelye appro●… pried to the body euen by the exposition of Tertullian A dead body is without lyfe soule and Senses Ergo it was the bodie●… that were dead and y e gospell therefore was not preached to them Wherefore we must saye that when Christ shall come to iudg●… the quicke and the Deade tha●… 〈◊〉 the quicke we meane them y ● ●…all bee alyue when Christe shall ●…me to Iudgement 1. Cor 15. by he deade suche Bodyes as sleepe 〈◊〉 their Graues till the last daye ●…d their foules either in payne or ●…easure in sorrowe or ●…olace 〈◊〉 felicity or misery in Torments 〈◊〉 in Ioye in Hell or Heauen ●…hyche beinge ioyned to their bo●…yes shall Receyue Sentence ei●…her to their Saluation or Con●…mnation The Gospell was preached to Adam nowe deade but then aliue ●…hen Christe Iehoua preached to ●…im the Seede of the woman to Noac nowe deade but then alyue ●…hen God tolde him that his Spi●…ite shoulde no longe●…●…tryue with ●…an To all other both that were either ●…aithful as the Prophets and Pa●…riarches were and the other faithfull or to y e vnfaythfull as to Caine ●…owe dead and then aliue to the Gyauntes before the floude no●… deade and then aliue Wheref●… did hee preache to them that th●… shoulde be iudged like other men●… fleshe that is that they might 〈◊〉 to synne and be mortifyed a●… shoulde lyue to God warde in 〈◊〉 Spirit Nowe the Gospell mortifieth s●… as beleue and raysethe them 〈◊〉 that they mighte lyue godlye a●… Spiritually The Gospell was preached to 〈◊〉 deade that is to men that are d●… in synne so is dead vsed Smith Howe aunswere you Mi●… cheas who sayethe that CHRIS●… ascended before them openinge t●… waye Carlil It wa●… not Christ but t●… Enemye some vnderstande it 〈◊〉 Nabucodonosor his Armye w●… assaulted and inuaded Hierusalem Nowe I wyll alleadge other mi●… myndes of the whiche not one 〈◊〉 them dothe alleadge yt as you 〈◊〉 you falsify the Texte and sorge ●…ther sense then euer Micheas ●…aned ●…is breaker was Sedechias who 〈◊〉 through the ruynous walles w t ●…ny others for hast to escape Af●… our English translation all this ●…ap is applied to y ● vtter destruc●…n of Hierusalem After Pagnine ●…s breaker of the wall was the ●…ngell whiche kylled the Assiri●…s and the King that went before 〈◊〉 Ezechias Others as Pellicane ●…unster and Castalio apply from ●…is place But I will gather the in ●…ede O Iacob vnto the ende all 〈◊〉 Christ who shall gather a great ●…ultitude at Hierusalem lyke ●…ckes of sheepe of suche a nomber ●…at they shal one opppesse another ●…e breaker of the gappe shall bee ●…essias who shall subdue your e●…emyes releue your miseryes and ●…ing you to felicity This Kynge ●…all goe before you Iehoua shall ●…e his name he shalbe your head guide But according to the let●… by this breaker vp is meaned 〈◊〉 Kinge of the Assirians and Bab●…nians withe their soldyours Smith I go saith Christ to prep●… you a place Ergo there were n●… in heauen before that Christ a●… ded to prepare a place Carlil Is this a good Argument●… you and I and halfe a score 〈◊〉 shoulde goe to London and 〈◊〉 should saye I am afearde that 〈◊〉 Innes should be taken vp t●… are so many that goe I wyll●… and prepare a place for vs. Doth yt nowe folowe that 〈◊〉 went to London before vs 〈◊〉 London emptye before Is th●… Citty where no Body dwellet●… Is that a Realme where there●… no Cytizens or Subiectes or t●… Heauē wher ther is no Saynct●… none inhabitauntes Let vs expounde the Text 〈◊〉 dinge to the Englishe Bible re●… in the Churches Christ seing his Disciples much ●…ered and troubled withe his sa●…ges as where he sayd that

loynes of Dauid was raysed by God but y ● was the body for the soule is not begottē i●… generation with y ● body but is ge●… uen by God to whōe it returne the ergo Peter speaketh here of y ● body of Christ and not of his soule this sense Peter proueth cōfirmeth by Dauid in y ● ver folowing paul lik●… wise saith y ● they put him in a gre●… or monumēt whō God raised frō 〈◊〉 dead you thrust him into hell God raised him out of his graue you out of hell God from them that were dead and buryed you from the lyuing for you saye that they th●… wers in purgatorye and Limbus do liue Paul speaketh of his body you 〈◊〉 his soule paul vnderstandeth the place of y ● second psal of Christes resurrection and begetting frō the dead you of his eternall gener●…tion you call that graue hell into the which paul denieth that he shall returne If descende ●…ee to come from 〈◊〉 higher place to a lower Why doo 〈◊〉 say and write that Christ des●…ded into hell ad inferos Is to go ●…nd ascend into Abrahams bosome 〈◊〉 descend and to cary the souls y ● Christ found there vp with him into heauenas you say to fetch out y ● ●…thers wherein are diuerse errors 〈◊〉 that you can not make descend 〈◊〉 be to ascend nor to go downe to 〈◊〉 to go vp Secondly that hell is neuer taken for Abrahams bosome ●…or in hell is perpetuall damnat ion in heauen eternall saluation neither can they in hell ascend nor they in Abrahams bosome decende neyther are they bothe in one place for the distance as Christ saythe was so greate the places so farr asunder their rewardes so contrary Abrahams bosōe so high hell so low the ioyes of the one so innumerable the Tormentes of the other so terrible the felicitye of Lazarus so Infinite and the miserye of the ●…ther so intol grable that they must be so farre distant as Heauen fro●… Hell so far centrary as light from darkenes Thirdly that Christ did not 〈◊〉 them that were in Abrahams 〈◊〉 some into any higher place or gr●…●…er ioy because that Abrahams 〈◊〉 some is and was the restinge 〈◊〉 and fruition of the iust the sola●… 〈◊〉 the electe the hauen of them 〈◊〉 are departed the Patrimonye 〈◊〉 Isaac the inheritaunce of Iacob 〈◊〉 Paradise of the blessed Théefe 〈◊〉 heauenly Hierusalem the socie●… of the holy soules and kingdom●… heauen Notwithstanding Lutzenburge is not as●…amed with other●… to say that Abrahams bosome 〈◊〉 Limbus patrum In what place hell is no man 〈◊〉 tell notwithstanding as I haue 〈◊〉 before your eies other mens opinions thereof of the which the 〈◊〉 parte same to place it in the earth euen so may we by better coni●… res then an●…e that they alleadge place it in the Aer about the earth For firste the Deuills are called ●…he Rulers of the worlde where they rule there they muste nedes 〈◊〉 well and haue their place but in 〈◊〉 Worldē they rule Ergo the Worlde is their Place So is the Deuell called the Prince of this worlde And that the place of Sathan is in the aer in the mindes of wicked men Paule declareth in the second chapter to the Ephesians the second verse where he speaketh of Sathan and of the spirite of Sathan working in suche as resist the Gospell and disobey the truthe folow sensuality and are giuen to their own ●…stes Sathan in Iob sayth that he ●…ame thither to aflict Iob and had gone round about the earth but y e ●…r compasseth the earthe aboute wherefore the aer appeareth to bee his habitation These deuils are y ● rulers of darknes by darknes he meaneth y ● dark 〈◊〉 circumfused about the earth and 〈◊〉 that large space and compase 〈◊〉 twene the moone and the earth●… which is called Tartarus in Peter wheither the peruerse angels wer●… thrust bounde with the cheynes 〈◊〉 darknes Eusebius as Steuchus 〈◊〉 porteth affirmeth that therefor●… deuells are called aeriall beca●… that the aer is theire place Lactantius an eloquent Chrysti●… wryter witnessethe that the deuel himselfe did confesse that he him selfe with his angells were 〈◊〉 ted in the aer Ergo then the 〈◊〉 ●…ay be their place Thus saith sa●… Deuells do flye by sea and lande with whippes tormented tied in 〈◊〉 Now if the aer be the place for 〈◊〉 deuell and his angells prescribed 〈◊〉 scripture then shoulde the 〈◊〉 haue said he ascended into hell 〈◊〉 not that hee decended For that 〈◊〉 aer is 〈◊〉 ●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 about vs 〈◊〉 compasseth the earth rownde about ●…ther is it any greater absurditye 〈◊〉 saye that the aire hath his inha●…itours then to saye that heauen whiche is aboue the planetts and ●…ed starrs hath his And y ● places ●…re alleadged out of the scripture ●…roue the same That Christ saythe Martyne Bucer a man of a deepe iudgement and profounde knowledge did carrye y ● saintes that were in inferno that is they that sleped 〈◊〉 the dust of the earth as all the ●…lect did from deathe to lyfe the scripture prophecied nothing ne●…er that the Lorde shoulde do any thinge ells but to dy●… for them They are therefore dremes whatsoeuer the deuines in tyme paste haue disputed of Limbo patrum ●…nd of that reall descendinge of Christ to the damned soules and ●…gatory Nether is that certayne and sure whiche some of late haue imagined forged inuented that Infernus Hell is Desperation and ●…urgatory in a manner desperati●… The Scripture after this lyfe pro nounceth to the saintes quietne●… in the bosome of Abraham euen t●… liue with Christ and to ●…aigne 〈◊〉 the father to the wicked he prom●… seth Geenna euerlasting fire prepared for y ● deuill but he promiset●… not Infernum The aunciente Fathers report that Christ descende●… into infernū meaning thither whither euery thing descendeth that is begotten They make no mention of Limbus none of purgatory no●… of Christes spirite descending into certayne darke dongcons Lette v●… let these passe as y ● inuentions o●… men and let vs rather giue thanks vnto the Lord who thrust his ow●… sonne for vs and for all the electe into Infernum that is ●…o wyt that he willed him to dye trulye that by his deathe we might be deliuered that by his resurrection from the dead we should not doubt but tha●… wee shoulde ryse agayne also vnto blessed immortality Thus muche ●…ut of Bucer faithfully translated word for word Lactantius tearmeth Inferos that place out of the which Christe did ryse his soule did not ryse for yt neuer fell it neuer dyed Ergo it was his bodie which rose out of the graue which he calleth Inferos he alloadgeth the 16. psalme for the same purpose and the 13. of Hosee

wh●… defended that a woman is the wor●… of the Deuill and man from th●… nauell vpward is the work of God and from the nauell downward y ● worke of Sathan and matrimony likewise Neither with Hierarhcas that denied that children perteyned to the kingdome of heauen because y ● they had no merites Nowe let vs as we promised define the immortall soule proue y ● same definition by y ● scripture The soul is an inuisible substance without a body created immortall which God gaue with breathing vpon Adam what time as his body was made perfecte and is now infused by GOD into the childe about the sixte moneth after the conception His outward breath signifieth that he gaue an inward substance as when he breathed vpon the Apostles his breath was an outwarde signe but withe that hee gaue the holye Ghost so with his breath ●…ee gaue the immortal soule And thus I translate the 7. verse of the secōd chapter of Gen. And Iehoua Elohim hath shaped this man of the mold of the earth breathed into his nosethrils the spirite of liues this man was made a liuing creature In this verse is conteyned y ● perfect creation of man the body of the earth the soule from God This place describeth vnto vs y ● soule of man from whence it commeth and who giueth it and the immortallity thereof from heauen it commeth for Neshama hath his name of shamaim heauen for that the immortall soule commeth from heauen as I discourse a litle after And God giueth it in so muche as he breathed it into man And that it is immortall y ● worde Caiim liues whiche is the Duall nomber declareth for to other liuing creatures God onelye giueth life Nephes caiia y ● which he giueth life Nephes caiia y ● which he giueth also to man which signifieth all our senses mouing bloud vitall spirit body affections and other faculties which rise with the bodye and dye with it But this spirit of lines declareth an immortallity that wee liue in this life by faith and hope and shall liue in the next euerlastingly And where ye haue this Hebrue worde Caiim in the duall nomber it signifieth immortalitye as the trée of liues of the which if Adam had tasted it woulde haue brought immortallity It is no good ●…ense to say that man was made a liuing soule For man was not made nor is not a liuing soule but a liuing creature for the soule is but a parte of man therefore a man cannot be a liuing soule Neyther is the Hebrue worde which is here translated in y e greatest Bible the soule applied to the immortal soule but to those powers only an qualities which rise with the bodye and dye with the bodye ●…ē Neither doth it die with the bodye as the Sadduces seduced men Neither are the soules of the same eternity with God neither are they of the substaunce of God neither do they goe from men in to beastes neither frō beastes into mē neyther haue men and beastes all one soule as the Maniches do dreame and as the trāslation to this seuenth ver seemeth to affirme in saying that Man was made a liuing soule which should be trāslated a liuing creature The Maniches deny the resurrection of the bodies and affirme that the soules shall rise onely for saye they it is in Paul The body muste be giuen to Sathan that the spirite may be saued wheron they falselie gather that the bodies shoulde not ryse but onely the soules Againe 1. Cor. 15. man is called Nephes a liuing creature because y ● he hath life bloud senses mouing and affections as other liuing creatures haue Man is here called the earth bicause that he should vnderstand that he is earth returneth to earth And ther●…re called in laten Homo an 〈◊〉 c●…ature Anosh in h●…brue for that he is mortall and full of corruption as in greke brotos Neshama as Esra vpon the 7. of Gen. and Rabby Salomon vpon the 150. Psal. say is alwayes applied to the immortall soul of man or els to God whis●…h both I will proue in this discourse It is in Genesis 2. 7. Iehoua Elohim fourmed this same man dust of this earth and breathed into his nosthrelles the breath of liues and this man was made a liuing creature Thus farre the text In the creation of all other creatures Moses vseth only Elohim and likewise in the creation of man and woman Gen. 1 26. 27. 28. to declare that all thinges are the woorkeman shippe of the whole Trinity But here where h●… more exquisitely describeth the nature and dignitye of man he addeth also Iehoua which is the Essentiall name of God formed God facioned the body of the earth that man may know that hée is but dust Gen. 3. 16. Gen. 18. 27. Psalme 103. 14. Psalme 104. 29. and this body hée calleth ●… liuinge creature because that man hath the vegetatiue and sensitiue life cōmon with other liuing creatures and besides Nephes Caia●… which signify all our senses bloud ●…omplections phleme cholor me●… lancholy all affections He breatheth into man Neshmath caim the spirite or breath of liues which is the immortall Soule inspired 〈◊〉 God-For with breathing which●… was an outwarde signe he gaue an inwarde thing and that was the immortal soule for as Christ breathing vpon the Apostles gaue them the giftes of the holye Ghoste so withe breathing vpon Adam hee gaue him the immortall Soule Into his nostrils why did hée breath in to his nostriles to signifye vnto vs ●…ude mortall men that he inspired in inwarde immortall Soule Neshama The immortall Soule is inspired by God and called Nesh ama for that it commeth from Heauen and from God and thither shall returne and proper to man and to none other creature Wherfore after that Moses had declared that all kinde of beastes had died hée addeth also man in whose nose●…rels was the breath of the Spirite of liues Neshama is for y e immortal soule in this phrase Deu. 20. 16. suffer none ●…o liue in whom is the immortall Soule Neshama He willed them to kill all the men of those seauē nations and no beastes if hée had meaned both men beastes he woulde haue saide Col hanephes as is specified in Iosua 10. 28. 39. 32. 33. 35. 37. 39. 40. Where as Iosua destroyed man and beast it is added both Col Hanephes and Neshama Iosua left nothing vndestroyed in Hasor But in the other cities he killed onely the men where Col Neshama is applied only to mankynd This kind of spech is oftentimes in scripture to saye that the soule and lyfe is gone out of the bodye when as it is but sickened greued and vexed as Psa. 107. ver 5. They were so hongry and thirstie that their lyfe and soule failed them notwithstanding they were not deade So Knataph

nethermoste hell Reade afterward in Sheol psal 86. 30. Reinerus in pantheologia The 7. Obie De profundis spal 130. 11. Chryst descen ded to purgatorie Arnobius lib. 2. contra gent reproueth the gentiles for a mitting ani purgatory after this life Polidor 6. c. 9 Volat. 12. Aethna which is now called Ca●…bo brenneth no lōger as Oliuerius writeth vpon Mela. ergo purgatory is no longer for it is brenr vp Mach. 12. 4 Pomponius Mela. De profundis oute of the diep●… psa 130. The argumēt of the 130. psa The 10. obiect The 11. obiect Hose 6. 2. Soules die not August lib 4. ad cathe ca. 6. Thei are dead that ●…all from God Two dayes Esay 37. 4. King 19. Ioseph lib. 10 cap. 1. 2. 2. para 32. August de ciuit 8. cap. 28. Lact. 4 cap. 19. The 12. obiect ion Hose 13. 14. 〈…〉 ver 55. 56. Resurrection The soules neither slepe 〈◊〉 Sheol Zachar. 9. 11. The 13. obiection The couenant was Christ. Bede vpon the 2. of the actes 〈◊〉 ●… itt Bor. Church Mathe. 21. 5. August deciin lib 18. c. 35. The. 14. obiec ●…ion Christ loused the sorows of death 〈◊〉 2. 24. sorowe dolor Aepinus in psa 16. The fathers were tormented in hell A false principle God the father loused the sorowes of death in raysing his sonne from death Polycarpus Actes 2. 24. Hebre. 2. 14. psal 16. Borhaus vppon 1. of the kinges 1. Actes 2. 27. when he raysed christ frō death Rom. 6. 9. To louse the sorrowes of deathe Soluere to breake Deathe The sorowes of deathe Rom. 8. 19. 20 21. 22. 23. Euod Epist. 99. The soules de sire their bodies When the sorovves of death are losed They that role with Christ ascended with●… him August in sermone do Resurrect Remigius vpō Math. Hierom. Iustinus quest 85. Rom. 6. 23. Origenes vpō the 6. to the Rom. Iohn 16. 20. ●…1 22. When you shall see me ●…yse againe in Epist. ad Euod epist. 99. Tom. ●… Augustine and Smith d●…sient and both in an errour August contrary to himselfe in epist. 99. Abraham●… bosome August Tom. 3. de Gen. ad lit 12. cap. 22. pag. 702. The sorrowes of Deathe August Euod 99. Epist. To be loosed from the sorrowes of deathe Rom. 7. 6. Rom. 6. ver 4. 6. Act. 13. ver 30. 32. 33. 34. 35. The sorrowes of deathe ar●… nothinge else but deathe it ●…elfe Heb. 2. v. 14. 15. The terrour●… of deathe Psal. 55. 4. The iudgmē●… of deathe ●… Rom. 1. 9. The Grekes pu●… a Verbe a Participle of on significatiō Hades whiche they translate Hell put for Death and consequēt ly for the Graue because that one foloweth of the other Act. 4. 10. Ro●… 4. 14. 1. Cor. 6. 14. 2. Cor. 4. 14. Col. 2. 12. 1. Thess. 1. 10. Galat. 1. 1. Caluine vpon psal 22. ver 2 Act ●…8 2. 24. All went to hell before Christ Marcion in the yeare of Christ. 277. Ireneus 5. c. 29 Theodoret in 〈◊〉 fab Clemens Alexandrinus error strom 5. 6. A fable Marcion Clemens in 2. strom Paulus cortesius vpon sen distio 6. Variety of opinions Durandus Mirandul●… Thomas Aquine Hugo Victor Purgatory Co●…lius in 4. s●…nt dist 3. ●…zenburg prynted at Colone in the yeare of Christ 1537. 14. ma ii Iohānes detere cremata Iacobus de Vo ●…agine in his boke printed at Venice in the yeare of Christ. 1478. in ●…is sermon d●…●…esur Reynerus in pantheologia pag. 297. Nichodemus Gospell Iacob de voragine in his sermone of the resnrrection To lose the sorowes of deathe Theodore●… dial 3. Impat Actes 2. 24. 25 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. psal 16. 79. 10. God losed the sorowes of death act 2. 24. Iohn herolt sermone 146. in the yeare of Christ. 1494. prynted at Norimberg saith that their soules ascended withe Christ. So saith Ignatius August expoundeth thi●… place vntruly Augustine tom de gen●… ad lit lib. 12. c. 33. 34. pa. 702. Augustine de verbis Apostolornm sir. 18 Tom. 10. 149. A third place after this life is not founde in scripture August Tom. 7. 1405 One hell Enchit c. 111. Tom. 3. 190 August variable Ad Macedon epist. 54. ser. 66 lib. 2. quest cap. 38. Damascene in the yeare of Christ. 490. Esay 61. v. 1. 2. Purgatory Damascene condemned Bul. in conci Transubstantiation inuented by Damal Damescene in the yeare of Christ. 490. after Lebbeus 453. after Pataleon Trithemius in scriptoribus Ecclesiasticis The Greekes neuer beleued any Purgatory Limbus is in Vtopia mori Ignatius ad Trallianos pag. 119. 200. That is to the Graue Math. 27. 53. The 15. obiect ion Ephes. 4. 8. Psal. 68. 19. He led captiuity captiue They that rose with Christ as cended with him Math. 27. 35. Chrisost. vpon Ephes. 4. Gen. 44. Christ was not in Purgatorye Receiued gifts To lead cap●…iuity captiue The 16. obiection Ephes. 4. 9 The inferiou●… partes of the earthe Flam. in ps 139 Fagius vpon Gen 37. Psal. 139. 15. Tactiioth Harets Psal. 63. 10 The inferiour partes of the earthe is the Graue Ezech. 3●… 14. 18. Ezech. 32. 24. The 17. obiect 1. Pet. 3. 19 20. 21. The godly fathers of the old Testamēt were not disobedient These disobedient were the desperate Giant●…s before the floude 1. pe 3. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. It is the hebrue phrase that Mem in comparisons is a mere negatiue or exclu siue psal 52. 4. 5. Psal. 118. 8. Raised to life by the holy Ghost 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 confer 2. cor 13. 3 4. 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 di●… loke for their amendement 120. yeares gen 6. 3. throughe the helpe of the A●…ke water 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Baptisme is like to that water the like figure or signe or Sacrament The deuine nature of Christ. Noae is called and prached Peter 5. Disobedient or desperate gen 6. 3 Baptisme Read a note vpon 1. cor 15 29. rom 6. 4. 5. 6. Prisone The Spirite Spi●…ites Iohn 10. 17. The spirite of Christ whō peter in this 3. Chapter calleth the spirite in his firste cha he calleth God 1 pet 1. 21. 2. Thess. 1. 10. The spirite of Christ is God Reade ●…om 8. 11. Rom 4. 24. 2. Cor. 6. 14. Gal. 1. 1 Rom. 4. 17. Iohn 5. 16. 17. 18 19. 20. 21. Acts. 26. 8. This spirite Ambrose callethe the holy Ghoste de voc gen 2. c 3. 2. cor 13 4 Theodoret vpon this place Iohn 2. 19. Iohn 2. 1●… Act 20. 28. Iohn 6. 21. Christes humanite and diuinity Augustine Enop EPist 99. The spirite of Iehoua gen 6. 3 An analogi●… betwene Moses and Peter Bash●… Hanepholi●… This spirite is not the soule of man 2. pet 2. 5. Beza Sibilla in her O. acles Spirits were the desperate Giauntes of Noacs Gen. 6. Baptisme Spirites are euill men 1. Tim. 4. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Paul seducing spirites Esay 19. 14. Zach. 13. 2. A duble spirit Hozee 9. 11. 1.

one ●…ould betraye him that whither ●…ée went they could not come that ●…ey should be dispersed that Peter ●…oulde denye him he comfortethe ●…em thus afflicted willing them ●…at theyr hartes shoulde not bée ●…oubled for yf they belueed in him 〈◊〉 they did in his father that then●…hey shoulde ascende thither whi●…her hée shoulde Ascende because ●…hat in his fathers house there were ●…any Mansions Roome ynoughe ●…laces at large for yf it were not 〈◊〉 saythe hée I woulde haue tolde ●…ou This place appearethe to proue ●…hat Heauen was well inhabyted ●…r else what needed hee to prepare 〈◊〉 place As my father had prepared these Mansions meaninge his Kingdom ●…rom the creation euen so nowe I goe to prepare a place for you For his acte and myue is all 〈◊〉 we prepared this place from th●… ginning If I goe to prepare a place for 〈◊〉 I will come agayn I wyl rec●… you vnto my selfe This wyll 〈◊〉 at the last Resurrection that 〈◊〉 I am I mean in heauen ye 〈◊〉 be and whither I goe ye knowe your Faythe and you knowe 〈◊〉 waye whiche is already made my 〈◊〉 and Resurrection 〈◊〉 I am the waye truthe and lyfe This is the true sense Reade 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Enthy Bul●…n Lyra Non●… Beza ●…aber Erasmus Chris●… Hillarius de trinit 9. Cyrill Pell●… cane B●…er Your allegations 〈◊〉 bothe absurd and mordinate 〈◊〉 Thrist vnderstandeth all this of 〈◊〉 Apostles you of the in Hell Chr●… of the liuing you of the dead Chr●… of y ● house of his father you of 〈◊〉 ●…hans den Christ of the large ma●…●…ions of his fathers house a amph●… roume you of Limbus pa●…rū Chri●… 〈◊〉 the heauenly kingdom prepared ●…f him and his Father from the cre ●…tion you of the Popes kingdome ●…urgatorie prepared of late and in●…ented by the Abbot Odilo in Sci●…cilye and of Sayncte Patrycke in Irelande and forged by others so doubtfullye and variablye that no man canne credite it Christe prepared them a waye to Heauen and wente before theym you woulde sende him to Hell Christe sayeth that where hee was they should bee meaning Heauen you saye that hee meaned Hell Went the Apostles to Hel al this place prouethe Christes Ascention Ergo no Descension for to Ascend and Descend are contrary Smyth I haue alledged those places of Scripture that seme to proue CHRISTE hys goinge to Hell whereby the Fathers were perswaded and shal not that perswade you that perswaded them Carlil They wyll haue manne to grounde or alleadge 〈◊〉 manner of Doctryne oute of 〈◊〉 Doctoure But they all are of●… Opinion and Consente and 〈◊〉 whollye conclude and agree to●… ther that there is nothinge ne●… sarye for the Saluation of 〈◊〉 Soules whiche is not contay●… or mentioned in the Eannonni●… Scryptures and therefore th●… wyll haue Scripture to bee 〈◊〉 onelye waye and Guyde Reas●… to Rule Argumentes to Proo●… Conferente of place wyth place 〈◊〉 conclude the Tongues to D●… cerne and the Litterall Tru●… and Sense to iudge Smithe If nothinge ca●… preuayle with you that I haue se●… downe or alleadged notwithstanding it is ynough that it is in 〈◊〉 Crede Carlil I denye that it is in 〈◊〉 Crede If it bee in oure Cr●… then I praye you who did putte●… in when and where was it thrust in If when the Apostels liued where make they mention of it Mathewe Marke Luke Iohn Paul and Peter diligently set out the healthfull artycle of Christes Death whereby wée are saued of his resurrection for our iustification and of his ascention for ●…ur glorification and assured expectation of all Heauenlye Felicitie Of this Fable they make no mention it is excluded as impertinent omitted as not expediente neglegted as an inconuenience and contempned as an absurditie Smyth Doeth not Augustine saye that Thomas the Apostle added this Sentēce Descendit ad Inferna he descended into Hell Carlil That Sermon that is intruded into his woorkes is none of his Sermons for many yeares after eyther by Bonauenture or by some suche Artificer these twelue were assigned seuerallye euerye one to one patche Saint Augustine ad petrum diaconum pag. 231. and de fide et simbola pag. 144. repeteth the twelue articles of of our saith and expoundeth them and this patche he omitteth which is an euident argument that it was not inuented nor beleued in his dayes a●… an ariicle The same patch he leaueth out in all places where he in treateth of the Crede de temp ser●… 123. serm 125. Chrisostome in his former exposition excludeth this patch in h●… latter●… he maketh mention of 〈◊〉 Descendit ad inferna He went int●… Hades in to his Graue that h●… might there also do miracles wh●… was to rayse vp many bodyes F●… many bodyes of Saintes rose wi●…●…im Thus much Chrisostome where●… it is manifest that Chrisostom●… meaneth by Hades y ● Graue wh●… manye haue translated hell Wh●… translation hath feigned many 〈◊〉 surdities how that Christ went to hell and fetched out the faithfull patriarkes That Chrisostome meaneth by Discendit ad inferna hée went to his graue he was buryed nothinge els but his buriall it is euident for thus he saith Discensus ad inferos The discendinge of Christ into his graue is a signe to to be dipped into the water and to ryse vp againe and this is Sepulchrum the graue that Paul calleth baptisme ye are buried saith hée by Baptisme vnto death Thus much Chrisostome I knowe that Chrisostome is variable in this matter for hee alledgeth y e place of the. 19. psalme for the resurrection of CHRIST as Peter and all other do and as I haue proued before notwithstandinge hée de●…orteth the place of the 24. psalme verse 7. and Esay 25. verse 23. that Christ willed hell gates to be cast open that he brake y ● brasen gates yron barres he vnder standeth of Christes entering into hell and bringing out of precious vessells Abraham Isaac and Iacob You Maister Smith saye that ●…hrist went into the two vppermost hells Purgatory and Limbus patrum Chrisostome knowethe neither of them you appoynte foure hells Chrisostome but one As the phisition saith hée can profite a dead man nothinge at all nor the maister of the shipp after the shipp is lost so after this life there is no thinge that can profite Smith Ruffinus Aquiliensis wryteth that the twelue Apostles immediatlye after the receypte of the holy Ghost made this crede before that they were dispersed that one of them shoulde not discente one from an other in anye principale poynte of religion Carlil you saye that Ruffine saythe that the Apostles made it for this cause least that any of them should disscent one from an other not with standinge Ruffine hath not this patche Is it credible that they shoulde dissent in any poynt of Religion that were inspired with the holye Ghost that were