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A26880 Catholick communion defended against both extreams, and unnecessary division confuted in five parts ... / by Richard Baxter ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1684 (1684) Wing B1206; Wing B1237; Wing B1401; ESTC R22896 218,328 250

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dilemmatically either by Peace and Union you mean inclusive Union with Christ and the Unity of the Spirit one Faith one hope and Union of Christian Love and by Communion a Communion in things necessary to salvation or you do not If you do then this is the true Paraphrase of your words They may have all the Essentials of a true Church except all the Essentials for those they have not If you do not include these then this is the Paraphrase They may be true Believers and penitent and love God and Man sincerely and be Members of Christ and have his Spirit and one Baptism and one true hope of Heaven and the pardon of sin and yet be Rebels and damned for want of somewhat ese which I call Unity Peace and Catholick Communion I think you mean subjection to such as you in all your Canonical Impositions In short the plain truth of this Case I before opened viz. When disobedience to true Church-●astors proveth t● be as Adultery and Murder sins signifying such Predominance of the Flesh and absence of Divine Faith and Love as is inconsistent with 〈◊〉 then it is damning as other gr●ss and reigning sin is But else it ●uts not off from Christ and if the Prelates pretend to cut off such they are liker to cut off themselves § 33 His rare distinction he fullier openeth which is Between the Visible Church and the one true Catholick Visible Church The Visible Church comprehends all Societies of professed Christians Hereticks Idolaters or whatever they be T●e one true Catholick Church 〈◊〉 not Ans. I have answered this before It 's well the distinction is not commonly observed as the Coyner saith for it would be a common abuse Hitherto we have known but one Universal Church considered as Mystical in Believers or Visible in Prosessors of the same and not another Faith Profest Idolaters or Hereticks that deny the Essential are no Members of it as Visible But this Doctor hath forged an One true Catholick Church less than the Visible and yet Visible Could he have spoken sence he would but have said The Universal Visible Church hath some Members that are sound orderly and peaceable and some that are erroneous disorderly and unruly even as it hath some holy and some Adulterers Thieves and Persecutors In a great house are some Vessels of Earth to dishonour § 34. I fear if I should survey but half the confused passages of this book I should tire the Reader as well as my self I will be briefer with the rest P. 94 95 c. He giveth us an allay against the tenor of his Excommunications and Damnations to shew that he is not so uncharitable as he seems to be and that his Canon that maketh so great a noise hath but Powder without Bullet I look he should say I misunderstand him and therefore I will not tell you his meaning but the sum of his words viz. p. 87. to shew us why Those that believe in Christ repent of their sins and lead an holy life in all godliness and honesty may yet be excluded from all the ordinary means of salvation He first blames them that in these days have thought Holiness so sufficient and would cheat his Reader by citing Austin as of that mind who hath no mention in the words which he cites of Faith Holiness Love to God or to his Saints or Service but only a Catalogue of such Virtues as Heathens or ●nfidels plead for viz. Chastity Continence not cove●●us not serving Idols not contentious patient quiet emulating and envying none sober frugal But yet an Heretick who is without the Christian Faith and Love so far is he from including these in his Description But no doubt he will have some Readers that will swallow all such Hooks as these Then supposing men have no Love that communicate not on his terms nor love the Peace and Unity of the Church unless they joyn in such Principles as his that would destroy it he tells us truly that Heaven is only the Gift of Christ as merited by him and therefore can be had only on his terms and that is only in Communion with his Church and by his Sacraments Ans. And what Christ's Terms are he hath told us Mark 16.16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved John 3.16 Whoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life c. The Whole Gospel is a Charter of salvation to all that have true Faith Hope Love and Holiness And all such are in the Church of Christ. 2. And as ordinarily doth the Scripture tell us that the preaching of the Gospel is the means of faith and holiness by which God saveth them that believe and that by the hearing of faith preached the spirit is given Gal. 3.2 c. Rom. 10.14 17. John 5.24 Acts 18.8 Acts 10.44 The holy ghost fell on all them that heard the word before they were baptized even the miraculous gift of the Spirit Matth. 13.18 Mark 4.20 Luke 8.13 21. and 11.28 Christ himself preached but did not baptize He sent forth his Disciples to convert men by preaching Matth. 10.7 and 11.1 Mark 1.38 and 3.14 Luke 4.18 19 43. and 9.2 60. Acts 5.42 and 10.42 and 8.5 25 35 40. and 9.20 1 Tim. 3.16 1 Cor. 1.17 Paul saith he was not sent to baptize but to preach the Gospel John 15.3 Ye are clean through the word c. John 6.63 The words that I speak unto you they are spirit and life John 17. Sanctifie them through thy truth thy word is truth 6.68 and 8.30 2 Cor. 5.19 20. 1 Tim. 5.17 and 1.2 John 4.2 It is able to save souls James 1.21 1 Pet. 2.2 John 8.31 Heb. 4.12 It is able to make us wise to salvation It is by the word of God that men are born again as an incorruptible seed 1 Pet. 1.23 It is that abiding in us that is our continued life 1 Iohn 2.14 There is no mention in Scripture of any one that was converted and made a Believer by Baptism or the Lord's Supper The Adult were all to repent and believe before they were baptized and God promised them forgiveness thereupon He never bid men baptize Infidels nor graceless men Baptism was but the publick solemnizing of the Covenant which they consented to before and the solemn investing them in that relation to which they were before entered And entring them by Baptism stated them in the Universal Church before ever they were setled under any particular Pastor in a particular Church as the case of the Eunuch Acts 8. shews But that which I call his Allay is that he copiously tells us that Heaven is a supernatural state of happiness and not the natural reward of an eartly creature p. 92 93. It is but an earthly happiness that Nature was made for and was promised to Adam in Paradise an immortal life on Earth An immortal life after death cannot be the natural Reward Innocent flesh is flesh Were it not for Heaven
Col. 1.18 19. He is the head of the body the Church In him all fullness dwells 2.3 In whom are hid the treasures of wisdom and knowledg 9. In him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily 17.19 The body is of Christ the head from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministred knit together increaseth with the increase of God 3.3 4. Your Life is hid with Christ in God when Christ our Life shall appear 11. Christ is all and in all 1 John 1.2 The Life was manifested and we have seen it 4.9 We live through him 5.11 12. This is the record that God hath given to us eternal life and this Life is in his Son He that hath the Son hath Life and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life We are in him that is true in his Son Iesus Christ. These and many other signifie that Christ is fitly likened both to a Head and to a Soul to his Church and is not a dead Head but a living and that the word Head includeth the Soul operating in the Head for the Sense Reason and Guidance and increase of the body And that he doth operate by the Holy Ghost who is one God with the Father and Himself confirmeth it Even as Christ is said to be quickned by the Spirit and by the Spirit to offer himself to God and to justifie us c. which is far from proving that he did it not himself Chrysostome and Basil and Ambrose need not to have been at so great care to prove that it is Christ himself that is called The Spirit and the Lord the Spirit 2 Cor. 3.17 18. against the Arians It will prove him God that as he the word in making the World moved on the Waters by the Spirit which is one with him so he doth by his Spirit which is one with his own Godhead sanctifie Souls I hope you are not against the Filioque Briefly He that giveth to his Church and every true Member of it Spiritual Life Light and Love illumination Sanctification Strength increase and Consolation as appointed by the Father to do all this by himself and by his Spirit is the form Essentiating the Church as much and more than the Soul is to the Man But such is Christ Ergo If I were of their mind that anathematized the Nestorians Eutychians Monothelites as damn'd Hereticks for their unskilful words I should much more Hereticate a Doctor in our Age that will say That if Christ be the Head of the Church he cannot be to it as a Soul a forma informans denominans But I am not of that mind 3. But when this Doctor added If Christ be not the Head of the Body the Church must be without a Head or have some other Head than Christ which I suppose is the Reason why he talks so much of a constitutive Regent Head of the Church Reader Can you tell what he means by which is the Reason Which of the two meaneth he that I suppose the Church without a Head When I so oft and largely prove Christ to be the Head Or is it that I hold some other Head When my Book is to disprove it Which ever it be I do not think refusing such a Pastor as makes no more of the Ninth Commandment is a damning Schism The Sin of Church tyranny goes not alone § 20. P. 45 He proceeds But the organized Body is the constitutive matter of the man though other Philosophers used to call the Body a constitutive part but to let that pass Ans. You had not the Wit to let it pass Durst I have accused you of what you bewray and accuse your self Reader Is not the Matter a Part And is not the Form a Part of the man And doth that man speak plainer that barely calleth either of them a Part and tells you not which Part it is Matter or Form If one of his Pupils should say Sir you should not call the Soul the Form but a Part nor the Body the Matter but a Part what would the Boys say to him § 21. He goes on Thus an Organical Church is the constitutive Matter Of what Of Christ or of his Church or of some third compound●d Ans. 1. Did I say An Organical Church or an Organical Body When Aristotle saith the soul is entelechia corporis physici organici doth he say Hominis physici Organici But you are an enemy to vain Philosophy and distinction 2. What if I had said an Organical Church as I sometimes do an Organized who knows not that ex penuria nominum the words Church Kingdom City Family School c. are ordinarily used equivocally sometimes properly for the whole Church Kingdom City c. as a Governed Society including Matter and form united And sometimes improperly for the Material part alone the Kingdom as distinguisht from the King the Church as distinct from Christ and from the Bishops and so of all the rest And when I so oft told you that the Organical Body of Christians is the Matter of the Church and Christ the fo●m as far as these terms fit Bodies Politick could you not find in such words Of what it is the Matter of the Church of Christ. § 22. He adds But that these parts be duly placed and united is forma Corporis non Hominis which what it means I cannot tell unless that a man would be a man though the several parts of his Body did not stand in their right places nor were united to one another so they were all united to the Soul Ans. Do you not understand what it means What if I had so accused you Whether it be long of your Tutor or You I know not But 1. If you know not the difference between forma Corporis and forma Hominis some body is too blame Forma dat esse nomen The Soul giveth Being and Name to a Man He is no Man without it Do you think it gives Being and Name to the Body What if Lazarus his Body in the Grave were without its Soul is it not Corpus a Body What if such a Body as M●ns had only the Soul of a Brute were it no Body What if Dr●●elius made his Engines move constantly by the Sun or Fire Is it not an Engine materially organized before the Sun or Fire move it Hath not a Wind ●●ll or Water mill its mechanical form which is but the Organization o● d●e matter when Wind or Water move it not But to what purpose is it to talk to one that tells us he cannot understand it 2. But the addition is shameful misunderstanding Doth he that saith Organization is forma Corporis say that one may be a m●n without it This is below puerility Did I not maintain that as Aristotle ha●h his three principles Matter Privation and Form and by Privation meaneth the Dispositio receptiva of the matter so Politick Bodies by similitude to natural have And that Organization is
sound and moving words are set before an unready Speaker they help his affection more than his own shorter and unmeeter words would do And his mind being not taken up with the study of words is the freer to attend its affections You must not measure all Mens Volubility of Speech by your own I can truly say that Forms are oft a help to me I find young and old Christians are more fit to use them than the middle-aged For the young cannot at first pray well at least before others without them till use hath taught them And the old have discretion to fit their Affections to sound words oft repeated But the middle-aged that have a greater Heat and a lesser Light are much more taken with their own sudden Effusions and Expressions Do you think that when Calvin formed the Liturgy for Geneva and France he had so Malignant a Design as to defeat the Spirits help Or do our English Psalms and Tunes quench the Spirit and are they used to keep Men from the Gift of making Hymns Ex tempore 2 I answered your Minor first because it is matter of Fact but your Major also is untrue For that which is imposed with an ill Intent may be used to a good one And that which hurteth some may be a help to others If the Parish Churches were all built to serve Popery and the Mass and dedicated to Saints yet we may use them lawfully to better Purposes If Priests Marriages be forbidden for ill Ends it may be forborn for good Ends. If Glebe and Tythes were here given first to maintain the Mass they may be used to maintain sound Teachers It was Popes that reverst the old Custom of not adoring kneeling on any Lords day And yet you may lawfully kneel then in Prayer Yea tho they brought in kneeling to the Host by that Alteration XXV Errer So that this is another Error And your Confirmations are not true D. O. Hereon the Church lived and acted for several Ages performing all Divine Worship in their Assemblies by vertue of the Gifts and Graces of the holy Spirit and no otherwise When these things were neglected when the way of attaining and the exercise of them appeared too difficult to Men of carnal minds this way of Worship by a Prescribed Liturgy was insensibly brought in to render the Promise of Christ and the Work of the holy Ghost in the Administration of Gifts useless And herein two things do follow § 13. 1. IT is a great Error to think that the Gifts and Graces of the holy Spirit may not be exercised if we use the same words or if they be prescribed The chief help of Gods Spirit lieth in giving us a due esteem of the things prayed for and a holy Desire after them and a lively Faith and Hope that we shall obtain them and a fixed Resolution to use all other means for them and avoid all that would deprive us of them And doubtless he that hath these mental Dispositions hath thereby a great help for his Expression of them for out of the abundance of the Heart the Mouth speaketh But 1. It 's well known that Use and Knowledge can enable an Hypocrite to pray as long and in as good Words and earnest Tone as a sincere Christian. 2. That which is easiest needeth the least help It is to me so much easier to speak my own thoughts in Prayer ex tempore than to remember a form of words that never since I was twenty years old did I ever learn and say without Book the words of one Prayer or one Sermon since I Preacht to have learnt a Prayer or Sermon without Book would have cost me ten times and more both time and labour and fear of being out than I ever used or could afford 3. Pardon me for asking Whether if this Author put all the Errors of this his writing into a Prayer or Sermon he did not need more help of the Spirit to have avoided them and to have spoken nothing but truth than to have fluently uttered so many mistakes He hath heard those called Arminians on one side and Antin●mians on the other oft fluently express their Opinions in Gods Worship The former he took to be heinous Errors Had not all these had more of the help of Gods Spirit if they had uttered nothing but true and good in a form than they had to speak so much Error and Evil to God or Man with extemporate fluency 4. May not a man use the Lords Prayer by the Spirits help If I have any help of Gods Spirit it is more in the use of that Prayer than at any other time 5. May not one sing Psalms by the help of the Spirit unless he make them extempore I doubt you lay too much on words Gods Spirit worketh on the heart and its greatest help is in its greatest gifts which are Faith Repentance Love Desire c. and not words Words must be used and weighed but the main work is heart work and God knoweth the meaning of the Spirit when we have but groans which we canot express and cry but Abba Father But you come to History and add another misreport in the words XXVI Error and no otherwise that the Church for several ages Worshipped no otherwise than by such gifts as you describe which exclude Liturgick forms It 's plain in the descriptions of Iustin and Tertullian that they did use extemporate Prayer then but not that they did no otherwise 1. Tertullian himself giveth you their form of a Creed and so do many others 2. They used a set form of words in Baptizing 3. And they constantly used singing Psalms and Hymns which were not made ex tempore nor by every singer 4. They used the Lords prayer in form often 5. At the Lords Supper they had divers words of form and responses In Cyprian some parcels are to he seen and in divers others 6. The truth is our History of the Churches manner of Worship for the first two hundred years is so little that we know but little how they did it beside the foresaid two passages in Iustin and Tertullian But by what is in the Historians of the next Ages and by the Churches general use of the Liturgies without contradiction soon after and what Daillee hath gathered de cultu Latinorum c. we know that no otherwise is not true 2. It 's too true that the carelesnes● sloth and worldly alienations of Ministers made all useful sufficiency for the work of the Ministry in Praying and Preaching to be neglected and doth to this day But I hope no wise man dreameth that all the Pastors had one soul or one mind and design If any Malignants used or enjoyned forms to make ●hrists promise and the Spirits help useless others used them and promoted the use of them for the performance of Christs promise and the Spirits help 1. Because there were not when publick countenance increased the Churches half enough
men for the Ministry that had the extemporate gifts of Prayer and Preaching 2. And you confess that each Church had then many Elders for oversight besides those that laboured in the Word and Doctrine Do you believe that all these had such extemporate gifts of utterance Or that these might not on occasion Pray and Preach 3. If Parents teach Children necessarily to Pray in a prescribed form of words without designing to defeat Christ or his Spirit but to subserve them how can you tell but the first prescribers of publick forms did mean as well when they found few persons able to do so well without and abundance of Hereticks ready to corrupt Gods Worship with their Errors 4. Let it be soberly considered Whether mens long and hard Study for all the words which they write in Books and for their Sermons be done to defeat Christ and his Spirit or to subserve them And why the use of words studied by others and weighed by us before we utter them should defeat the Spirit any more than words premeditated by our selves Or at least is not the Spirit as much defeated in the People that joyn who ever prepareth the words For they do not themselves put them up by their gift of utterance And its impossible when you speak for the people to know whether those words were before studied and whether by your self or by another from whom you borrowed them I have heard Mr. Ph. Nye wish that some men were sent into Wales and other such places with an injunction to read good Sermon Books to the people such as Dr. Prestons Sibbs c. was this spoken to defeat the Spirit or to serve him D. O. 1. A total neglect of all gifts of the Holy Ghost in the Administration of Church-worship and Ordinances § 14. THe first Consequence is an untruth No doubt but Liturgies were abused to cherish Ignorance and Negligence XXVII Error But that the neglect was total is not true whether you respect all the Churches or all the parts of Worship and Ordinances 1. The many holy and excellent Men whose fame and writings are transmitted to us did not totally neglect all gifts of the Holy Ghost Were all the great Volumes of Sermons preached and written by Chrysostome without any gift of the Holy Ghost Or was Preaching no Ordinance Were all Augustine's elaborate Volumes done without him Or all Cyprian's Macarius Ephrem Syrus Basil's Gregory's yea or Bernard's Homilies and Works 2. Are the gifts of Holy Desire Faith Hope Repentance no gifts of the Holy Ghost Or can you prove that these were all totally neglected in the administration of Church-worship 3. It 's known thar in the Exercise of Discipline which is a Church-Ordinance and in Catechizing and Preaching they were not tied only to a form of words no nor in all Confession Prayer and Thanksgiving 4. It 's a great blow to the Universal Church to say That it totally neglected all the gifts of the Holy Ghost D. O. 2. When a Plea for the Work of the Holy Ghost began to be revived it produced all the enmity hatred and contempt of and against the Spirit of God himself and his whole Work in the Church which the World is now filled withal § 15. THat word his whole work in the Church is another mis-report XXVIII Error It is not his whole work that is so contemned A man may preach for Mercy to the Poor for Obedience to Authority for Love c. and he may sing Psalms of Praise and pray for Pardon and for Kings and Magistrates and for daily Bread and may profess to believe the Creed and Scripture c. without the contempt which you describe But no doubt but Malignity will take advantage of Liturgies and of almost any thing and so hath still done All is not unlawful which bad men abuse What is more turned against Christ in the world abroad than his Two great Ordinances of Magistracy and Ministry What more abused to strife than the Sacrament of Love Union and Communion Are all these therefore unlawful And it 's a palpable Mistake That the foresaid scorn of all done by the Spirit ariseth from hence alone XXIX Error a justification of the devised way of Worship It ariseth more from a malignant enmity to serious godliness and from worldly interests and designs and from the slanders of Seducers that accuse good men and too much from the miscarriages of many that have boasted most of the Spirit as Quakers Ranters Familists c. do And Experience confuteth you For all those Countries that make but little use of Liturgies have yet malignant parties that hate and oppose spiritual serious Exercises of Religion D. O. All the Reproaches that are daily cast upon the Spirit of Prayer all the concontempt and sc●rn which all Duties of religious Worship performed by his aid and assistance are entertained withal ariseth from hence alone namely a justification of this devised way of Worship as the only true way and means thereof Take this away and the wrath and anger of men against the Spirit of God and his w●rk in the Worship of the Church will be abated yea the necessity of them will be evident T●is we cannot comply with lest we approve the original design of it and partake in the sins which proceed from it § 16. BEcause you lay the main stress of your Cause on History and Experience you constrain me to add some more History which I had rather have past by But if I set not Experience against Experience I shall leave abundance unto the danger of error who can judg by little else than Experience and that see and feel what 's present and forget what is long past and gone The Truth I have opened in my Christian Directory that both ways are liable to great abuse and all humane actions have their inconveniences The benefits of a sound Liturgy are 1. To keep out Heresie and ill words from publick worship 2. To be a help to men of unready utterance 3. That the people may know before-hand what they joyn in The inconveniences are 1. The dulling of Affection in hearing still the same words 2. The tempting of slothful worldly Candidates and Ministers to learn no other way of praying when this will serve all their worldly turns But I must add That this followeth not the imposing of a Liturgy but the exclusion of other Prayer and taking up with this alone 2. The conveniences of praying from an habit are 1. A just variation as Occasions vary 2. Help to fresh Affection 3. Forcing Ministers to get ability for utterance The inconveniences are 1. That the people know not till the words are past whether they may own them and so hardly try all and follow with just consent 2. That abundance of young raw unskilful men do ordinarily disgrace Prayer by their unskilful methods and expressions 3. That Hereticks and erroneous men have great opportunity to put their sins into their
and godly Ministers in the Parish-Churches and some have such as I would never own or encourage in the Ministry by seeming to own them Some can remove their Dwelling and some cannot Some had Liberty the last year that cannot have it this year without more hurt than their benefit will compensate In these Cases where God hath not at all tied us to a Book or no Book to this Church or to that he that can truly tell which way he shall do and get most good or hurt may by that better know his Duty than by these Arguments or Mens Censures But verily my chief Reason for Communion in publick is the very same which you bring against it Even the avoiding of hainous Scandal I have told the World 1. That Scandal is not displeasing men but laying before them a temptation to sin 2. That if the Separatists be the best Christians they are farthest out of the danger of Scandal It is the worst that are easiliest tempted to Sin and so whom we should be most fearful to scandalize 3. And it 's a greater Sin to scandalize many than few 4. And worse by scandal to tempt men to the mortal Sins of persecuting or scorning godly men than merely to tempt them to some small mistakes or to grieve them 5. And to scandalize our Rulers is worse than to scandalize Inferiors Caeteris paribus And now I tell you I the rather joyn in Publick 1. Lest I should harden thousands in the Opinion That we take that to be unlawful which is not and that we are for sinful Separation and that we separate from and unchurch almost all Christs Church and that we are Enemies to Order and Peace and Concord and that we are unruly enemies to Government and giddy ignorant self-conceited people 2. And so lest we breed throughout the Land such a contempt of Conscience in Gods service as they have of Quakers and thousands by this should be alienated from the Reverence of serious Religion and Youth should be educated to the like contempt under these temptations 3. And lest if any in Church-matters be guilty of sinful Extreams on the other side in Oaths Professions Ceremonies or Practices we should harden them therein by tempting them to think that we have no worse against their way than the Use of a Liturgy 4. Lest the Conceit that we are but a company of giddy Fanaticks encourage any contentious Preachers to render us odious and rail at us in the Pulpits to their own shame and the widening of our Breaches 5. And lest the same Error should tempt any Bishops or Magistrates to think they do God and their Church and Countrey service in silencing imprisoning reproaching and ruining Gods faithful Servants without cause and bring the Land under Gods wrath by persecution Are these no Scandals or not greater than offending or displeasing the dissenting Separators to say nothing of ocsioning our Reproach in all the Foreign Churches which have a Liturgy If against all this the displeasing your mistaken Flocks should prevail then their weakness and error would constitute them our chief Governours D. O. Argument 9. That Worship which is unsuited to the spiritual relish of the New Creature which is inconsistent with the conduct of the Spirit of God in Prayer is unlawful For the Nature Use and Benefit of Prayer is overthrown hereby in a great measure Now let any one consider what are the Pr●mises Aids of the Holy Spirit with respect to the Prayers of the Church whether as to the Matter of them or as unto Ability for their performance or as unto the Manner of it and he shall find that they are all rejected and excluded by this Form of Worship as is pretended comprizing the wh●le Matter limiting the whole Manner and giving all the Abilities of Prayer that are needful or required This hath been proved at large § 25. TO your Ninth Argument I answer 1. O! confine not the New Creature to those of your Opinion Do you think none of the Old Nonconformists or Conformists none of the Reformed Churhes and no Church on Earth for a Thousand years had any of the New Creature When you have affrighted People with telling them it is heinous sin and returning to Babylon and also by long disuse made a Liturgy uncouth to them do not ascribe all their averseness to the New Creature which is from prejudice and disuse For my part when God taught me first to pray I had no averseness to a Form When I heard it charg'd with sin I began to be averse to it When I had studied the case I was cured of that aversness but never reconciled to the forbidding of all other Prayer nor to the faults of any Forms And who knoweth not that Man 's culpable Nature loveth Novelties and are hardly kept in lively Affections under any thing that is very often said A Book or Sermon tho never so good affecteth us not so much after many times reading and hearing as at the first We must not lay this weakness on the New Creature tho it should teach Imposers to suit the Remedy to the Disease and give children such food as is not too displeasing to their Appetites And yet I find not the generality of Appetites even in your Flocks is against the Forms of Psalms being not prejudiced against them It is not true that Liturgies are inconsistent with the conduct of the Spirit in Prayer It is a Mistake also XL. Error That this Form of Worship rejecteth and excludeth the matter of Prayer whenas the Visible Book tells all the contrary Do all those words express none of the Matter of Prayer It is untrue That it rejecteth and excludeth the Manner as to the chief part For the Lord's Prayer is a perfect Form for Matter Order and Method And the Psalms read and sung are for Matter and Manner neither evil nor excluded And sure there is much of the rest laudable If all Matter and Manner be rejected and excluded then the Martyrs that used it and all the Churches on Earth almost have no Church-Prayers But again I tell The use of Forms and the forbidding all other Prayers are Two different things which you ill confound D. O. Argument 10. That which overthrows and dissolves our Church-Covenant as unto the principal end of it is as to us unlawful This end is the professed joynt subjection of our souls and consciences unto the Authority of Christ in the observasion of whatever he commands and nothing else in the Worship of God But by this practice this end of the Church-Covenant is destroyed and thereby the Church-Covenant it self broken For we do and observe that which Christ hath not commanded And while some stand unto the Terms of the Covenant which others relinquish it will fill the Church with confusion and disorder § 26. TO your Tenth Argument I answer 1. What your Church-Covenant is I know not But if it profess subjection to nothing in Worship but what
Subversion of Civil or Ecclesiastical Order and Governmenment when they were trod down and suffered for their Dissent But in all Ages and Nations the Churches that were under the grinding Dividers have laid more of the blame on the upper Milstone than on the lower Action and Violence making their Part more notable bearing more easily the censures and words of such as think Losers may have leave to talk than the Stings Swords and Flames of the elder Sons of Abaddon Apollyon And indeed in all Ages the lower Party have been less averse to Peace and Reconciliation but whoever have got uppermost into uncontroulable Clergy-Domination have usually disdained and abhorred the Peace-makers It was King James his wisdom to make Beati Pacifici his Motto and the Disposition and Counsels that are contrary to it will prove pernicious folly at last But we have a greater Doctor and Exemplar even our Saviour and final Iudge who while some repraoch such and talk and write to bring men from Love to hate each other hath said what in despight of malice he will make good Blessed are the Peace-makers for they shall be called the Children of God Matth. 5.9 The Contents of the First Part. WHether the Resolver truly define the Church Page 1. Whether there be not many particular Churches 3. Whether these Churches must be Members of one another 5. Whether the Vniversal Church and Particulars be not distinct as Whole and Part. 6. Whether the Church hath all things Common and this be essential to it 6 7. Whether God only Constitutes the Church and no Humane Contract 9 10. Their Charge against the Independents Church-Covenant examined 11 12. Whether Church-Communion consist in no particular Acts. 15. His Self-contradiction p. 16. More of his Contradictions and Errors 17. His first Case Whether Communion with some Church be necessary 18. His second Case of Occasional Communion examined 19. His third Case Whether we may Communicate with distinct and separate Churches 20. His confused use of the words Church-Union Communion Separation and Schism opposed by a large Explication of Vnion Communion and Separation in which is fully shewed what Separation is Schism and what not from p. 21 to p. 41. He seemeth to damn all Christians on Earth as Schismaticks 41. His condemning the Church of England and many other largely manifested p. 42 to 53. What it is for which he calleth Men Schismaticks 53. It is absurd to be Members of opposite Churches because Christ hath but one Body 55. Whether all are Shismaticks who are guilty of Schism or Traitors that break any Law e. g. If the Church of England have any guilt of Schism c. 56. The Contents of the Second Part. WHether Mr. Ralphson prove 1. That Kneeling at the Sacrament and use of the Liturgy are unlawful false Worship or Idolatry and the places are Idols Temples and to joyn in them is to joyn in Idolatry p. 1. Whether the Argument prove it because they are Worship not Instituted 1. The word Worship explained and Worship distinguished 2 3. Twenty unquestionable Instances of Lawful Acts in Worship not particularly Instituted by God which are Modes or Accidents of his own Instituted Worship and may be called Worship in a subordinate sense 4 c. Whether the use of any such be a defection to Idolatry 8 9. Of Kneeling before the Bread and Wine 12 13. Another Instance of a Lawful Accident of Mans appointment 13. The Face of his Doctrine of Separation unmask'd in twenty Particulars 14 c. The Contents of the Third Part. Dr. Stillingfleet's Defender tried THe general Character of his Book p. 1 c. He placeth not Communion in any transient Acts but a fixed permanent State 4. Whether Communion and the Church be the same 5. Have all the Churches the same Right and Obligation to Communicate with each other 5. His Supposition of the World being one Family c. p. 7. His Accusation of Confusion Mistaking c. examined 8 9. Whether Union and Communion be all one and this be in no transient Acts 9 10. To his Question What makes the Church One 10 11 12. Whether that which makes it a Church make it not One 13. His Philosophy opened for his Pupils p. 14. when he dare not confute the Boyes common Notions of Physicks he stands wondering at them p. 14. As that the Soul is principium motus to the Body That Vnion is to Soul and Body like the Copula in a Proposition 15. Whether Christ cannot be to the Church a constitutive Form as the Soul is to the Body because he is it's Head and whether Scripture ascribe not to him such Soul-Relations as well as to be Head 15. His putid intimation that I write for another Head of the Chvrch than Christ. 17. Whether the Organized Body be not the constitutive matter of Man and matter be no part 17. More of his fumblings about the term Organized The Dr. cannot understand that forma Corporis and forma Hominis are two things 18. A Story of a Leveller shewing how such Doctors writings have success 19. How the Doctors Tutor should in his Youth have taught him to understand what the Churches Vnion is wherein it consisteth and by what it 's caused 21 to 27. His profest incapacity of applying the similitude of a Copula pitied 27. His palpable untrue Accusation in the dark 28. His confused Communion 30. His Schism plainly confuted That Churches or Persons of separate and opposite Communion cannot be united to Christ By three distinctions 1. Between Communion and Subjection 2. Between mental and local Separation 3. Between mental Separation from Essentials and from meer Accidents or Integral parts Instances of the famousest Fathers and Churches that have so far separated from each other 32. His Whimsey of Two Vniversal Visible Churches 33. What excommunicate persons are cut off from Christ. 35. Six begg'd Suppositions which these false Accusers of Schism must have 36. His kind Concessions That Rebels and Schismaticks may have the power of Orders and Officers rightly constituted Sacraments and all Essentials of a true Church except Peace and Vnity and Catholick Communion as if Essentials united not 36. What Schism is damning briefly opened 37. His Doctrine Thas those that believe in Christ repent of their sins and lead an holy life in all godliness and honesty may yet be excluded from all the ordinary means of salvation proved false subverting the Gospel 37 38. His odd Doctrine That the Divine Spirit is the Principle of Immortality in us which first giveth life to our Souls and will at last raise our Bodies modestly examined and Reasons given for the Immortality of all mens Souls as well as those that have the Spirit and that the rest are not annihilated but have a future life aad that there is a Resurrection of the just and unjust and an Hell 39. His Notion That all Bishops are but one Bishop because Episcopatus unus est 42. Of Independency of Churches 43.
The word Unus equivocal 44. Whether we may call all those Bishops who causelesly break Vnity No Catholick Bishops 44. More of Catholick Vnity of Bishops His Opinion of the Original of Arch-Bishops 46. His charge of Knavery and blind Fury managed by more and more confusion 47. He denieth the Church to have any one constitutive Regent Head when it is essential to Christ to be such and the Church to have such He confesseth that the Church is no Politi●al Society as headed by men 48. Whether Civil and Church Policy be not the same in genere 49. What Principles of Politicks the Dr. should have learnt in his Youth Nine Points which he should have been taught p. 51 52. Dr. Parker's Doctrine The Defenders d●shonouring Dr. Stillingfleet as if he denied Christ to be a constitutive Regent Head of the Church Visible as such p. 53. How far Christ is such a Visible Head 52. Whether all causeless Separation from any part of the Church on account of Accidents or by Opinions cut off men from the whole Church with more of his errors confuted to p. 56. The Contents of the Fourth Part. The Reasons of my own Communion with Parish-Churches QU. 1. Whether men should be compelled to Communion with any Church by corporal Penalties plainly answered p. 1 2. Qu. 2. Whether they who consent to communicate with some Church may choose their own Pastor or Company or may by force be confined to their Parish-Priest and Church 3. Qu. 3. For what Reasons I and such others do hear in and communicate with the Parish-Churches And whether so to do be a sin or a duty or a thing indifferent 6. The true case and extent of my Iudgment herein 8 11. Twenty Four Reasons of my Iudgment and Practice which have still seemed unresistible to my conscience 12. The Iudgment both of the old Nonconformists and the old Separatists for it in their own words 18 19. Many Objections answered 24. Why I yielded to mens importunity to publish these Reasons at this time 26. The Contents of the Fifth Part being an Account why the Twelve Arguments said to be Dr. I. O's do not change my Judgment MY Position and premised History of the matter of Fact p. 1. Dr. O's Premises considered p. 6. Many mistakes therein manifested 11. His First Argument from the want of Institution examined 12. His Second Argument 18. His Third Argument p. 30. And so to the Twelfth Forty Errors proved in them at least His laying the stress of his condemnation not of ours only but of all Liturgick Forms on the ill effects of them constrained me in faithfulness to the present endangered minds of Readers and also to my own conscience to say so much of the ill effects of Separation on the other side as I know will be censured by many But as I have oft done it before in my Treatise of Baptism my Gildas Salvianus my Key for Catholicks Admonition to Mr. Bagshaw c. I judg it made necessary on this occasion to repeat so much as have done THE PREFACE DID not the Thoughts of a better promised World afford me Comfort and Relief the Thoughts of the Case of this so much forsaken Earth would break my Heart my Faith and Hope To see so much of Earth yet Unchristian and so few of the Christian Nations either in Knowledge Love or Holiness answering their Holy Profession but damning one another and more themselves And to see how great a hand the Clergy of almost all Churches have in this by notorious implacable Contention and to see how little hope there is of a Remedy If Princes and Patrons chuse Wise Holy Peaceable Men in England will they do so in France Flanders Spain and other Popish Lands And either there they will expect the same Royal Power make the Pope and his Agents the Electors which is worse And with such the Love of Money Vain-glory and Self-opinion Worldliness Pride and Ignorant Error will keep up Envy Strife and Persecution Confusion and every Evil Work O how sad is the Case of the Laity that must hear Men pretending to great Learning and Authority with raging Confidence damning the Opinions and Persons of each others and calling to Princes to destroy those that they cannot convince and that will not take them for their Masters pretending that subjection to them and all their ensnaring Laws is necessary Communion And with such Confidence do they Write and Talk that it must be very expert and setled Christians that can tell who is in the Right but the Crowd believe them that have most Interest in them or that speak the last word or that have greatest Power There is but one way possible to cure all this besides wise and godly Princes which all Peace-makers have still agreed on Even to Unite in the Divine Authority and Primitive Simplicity of Doctrine Worship and Discipline and to bear with others in smaller Matters Supposing the Determination of such mutable Circumstances which belong to each Minister his Place Christ hath promised Salvation to all that practically so agree He hath commanded them all to Love one another even as themselves and to receive one another as Christ received us Baptism devoting us to the Father Son and holy Ghost then made men Christians and Catholicks The Creed the Lords Prayer Ten Commandments were thought a sufficient Test as to the Orthodox Exposition of the Baptismal Covenant Upon these Terms the Church Formed into Pastors and Flocks lived in Loving Communion in the Lords Supper and in holy Doctrine Prayers Praises and doing good to all they could The Kingdom that is the Church of God and Christs Reign therein consisteth not in Ceremonies and lesser things but in Righteousness Peace and Joy in the holy Ghost The Unity necessary hereunto was that described Ephes. 4.3 4 5. One Body One Spirit One Hope One Lord One Faith One Baptism One God and Father of all And the keeping of this Unity was in the Bond of Peace with all lowliness and meekness with long suffering forbearing one another in Love v. 2 3. These Terms were made for our Love and Communion by Christ the Maker of the Church the Author and Perfecter of our Faiih These Terms are few sure plain possible as Christs Yoke is easie and his burden light and his Commands not grievous These Terms all Christians are actually agreed and united in He knows not Mankind that doth not know That the ignorance weakness and badness of Man is such as that it is impossible that all good Christians should unite otherwise upon things hard dark doubtful and numerous The Primitive Simplicity Purity and Love are the only Terms of Universal Concord in the Church on Earth But now by Preachers with wordy confidence these only healing terms are accused as the way of the most damning Schism O the subtilty of the Serpent that beguiled Eve O the folly of Men that will be thus drawn away from the simplicity of Christ by takeng
is to hold that some Church is perfect in Understanding Faith Hope and Practice without Ignorance Errour or Sin that is not to know what a man or a Christian on Earth is XXIII Much less do all Churches agree in unnecessary indifferent accidents nor ever did nor ever will or can do XXIV The measuring out Churches by limits of Ground Parochial or Diocesan is a meer humane ordering of a mutable accident and no Divine Determination And if all were taken for Church members-because they dwell in those precincts it were wicked But if it be but all in those precincts that are qualified Consenters it is usually a convenient measure But such as in many Cases must be broken XXV If a Church with Faithful Pastors be well setled in a place first where there are not more than should make up that one Church it is not meet for any there to gather a distinct Church thô of the same Faith without such weighty reason as will prove it necessary or like to do more good than hurt 1. Because Love inclineth to the greatest Union 2. Because a Great Church is more strong and honourable than a small if the number be not so great as to hinder the Ends. 3. And the Ancient Churches kept this Union XXVI If Magistrates make such Laws about Church Accidents as tend to further the Churches wellfare or are so pretended and not against it we must obey them But if they will either invade Christs Authority or cross it by making Laws against his or such as are proper to his Prerogative to make or invade the Pastors Office and the Churches proper right given by Christ or determine Accidents to the Destruction of the Substance the Church Doctrine Worship or Ends these bind the Consciences of none to Obedience but Christ must be obeyed and we must patiently suffer XXVII Self-interest Self-Government and Family-Government are all antecedent to Publick Government which Ruleth them for the Common good but hath no Authority to destroy them No King or Prelate can bind a man to do that which would damn his Soul nor to omit that which is needful to his Salvation All power is for Edification They are Gods Ministers for Good XXVIII As it belongs to self-government to choose our own Dyet and Cloaths and Wives and Physicians thô we may be restrained from doing publick hurt on such pretences And it belongs to Family Government to educate our own Children and choose their Tutors Callings Wives c. so it more nearly belongs to self-government to choose the most safe and profitable means of our own Salvation which no man may forbid us and to avoid that which is pernicious or hurtful and to Family-Government to do the like for our Children XXIX It is false Doctrine of those late Writers who tell us that only Sacraments sanctifie or give right to Salvation The whole Tenor of the Gospel tells us that men are brought to Faith and Repentance and to be Christians and Godly men and by Faith to be justified by the Preaching of the Gospel and that Gods word is his appointed means of Salvation which his Ministers must preach skilfully instantly in season and out of season to that End And if the Gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost XXX The Gospel saveth not like a Charm by the bare sound or saying of the words nor the Sacrament like an Amulet But as a Moral means specially blest by him that instituted it to work on man as M●n by informing his Mind perswading his Will and exciting his Affections as Men are wrought on in other Cases which methinks those called Arminians should least deny who are said to lay more of the Spirits operation on Moral suasion than their Adversaries yea and those that account it Fanaticism to expect any other gift of Prayer from the Spirit but what is given morally by use And the contrary Doctrine feigneth God to Work even constantly by Miracle And as the Papists make every Mass-Priest a Miracle Worker in Transubstantiation so do they that make the bare saying over the Words and doing the outward Acts in the Sacrament to save us ex opere operato and the Pastoral teaching and oversight of an ignorant drunken Lad or Reader to be near as great a help to Salvation as the Ministry of a wise skilful Holy and exemplary Pastor and the clear affectionate Preaching of Gods word And that tell us as Mr. Dodwell how sufficient a man is to administer the Sacramental Covenant that understands what a Covenant is in matters of Common Conversation XXXI If a Wise and Skilful and Conscionable Ministry be as needless to Edification and Salvation as some Men pretend it is as needless that they should study to be such and vain to Glory that they are such and that the Church of England hath such a Ministry and vain to expect that men should pay them any more respect than I owed my Master that never preacht but once and that drunken and divers very like him Or that they should use this as an argument to draw men to hear them XXXII If the King or Law should settle a Physician of his or a Patrons choice in every Parish it were well done if it be but to have help at hand for Volunteers But if he command all to use them and to use no other before them or against them where unskilful or untrusty men are placed no man is bound to obey this command No mens Law can dissolve the Law of Nature nor disoblige a man from a due care of his Life nor bind him to cast it away upon Obedience to ignorant or bad and treacherous Men. And a mans Soul is more precious than his Health or Life and he is bound to greater care of it and is no more to trust it on the will of his Superiours How vast is the difference between an ignorant rash Physician or Pastor and one that is wise experienced and trusty They that scorn Men for going for greater edification from one to another do not so if a man prefer a skilful Physician to one that kills more than he cures or a skilful and careful Tutor for his Son yea or a Farrier for his Horse XXXIII If one Preacher be not for Edification to be great●● preferred before another then One Book is not And so it 's no matter what Book they read or value and what a Student will this make And what a Trade for the Booksellers And why then should their own Books be so valued And why then do they silence hundreds or thousands and forbid them to preach on pain of ruine thô no false Doctrine be proved against them if they think not that the difference is very great XXXIV When Councils hereticated and condemned Thousands or Hundreds of Priests and Bishops whom Christian Emperours and Princes owned as Orthodox they did not then think every Patron Prince or Prelate a competent Judge with what Pastor Men should
us that he did not place this Communion in any transient Acts but in a fixed permanent state Ans. But 1. Taking the Bishops for true authorised Pastors and the Church for a true Church are transient acts Believing in Christ and repenting of sin are transient acts quoad objectum tho immanent quoad subjectum effectum Baptism and Profession of Christianity and of love and obedience to others are transient both quoad objectum effectum Coming to Church communicating obeying Bishops and departing from Schismaticks are transient in both respects You see that by Catholick Communion the Doctor meaneth none of all these 2. What meaneth he then a fixed permanent state But 1. Which Predicament can you conjecture that word state is in It 's commonly applied to Relation Quality and Scite and Place These latter I am confident he meaneth not If he mean Quality it is Disp●siti●n or Habit sure But those come by Acts and he tells us not what he meaneth nor is it probable that this is it Relation is most likely to be that fixed state which is indeed the true form of a Church and a Church-Member and saith Durandus is meant by Baptism's indelible Character Supposing this his meaning 2. Are not transient acts the fundamentum of this Relation as verily as of Paternity Marriage-Relation c. Is any Man a Church-Member or Christian but by the transient acts of Baptism Profession Covenanting c. And do you define a Relation without the Fundamentum 3. But if Relation be all wherein lieth our damning Schism We profess Catholick Communion then somewhat more than you do For as we profess the same Relation that you do to Jesus Christ so we profess our Relation of Fellow-Members to all his Body even to those that in such Matters depart from each others and if I can understand you to the greatest part of Christ's Church on Earth which you damn as Rebels This is our profest Relation If you can disprove it 〈◊〉 § 9. He adds I conclude it 's sufficient to let you understand what the Ancients meant by Christian-Communion which in a large Notion signifies the Christian Church or Society which is called Communion from Communication which all the Members of it had with each other The plain and obvious sense is All the Churches of the World are but one Church or Society and have the same right and the same obligation on them to communicate with each other for the sake of which Christian Churches are instituted as the members of a particular Church are Ans. 1. Such large Notions may be sufficient to you but they signifie little more than noise to me Here we are told that by Communion he meaneth the Church And so when we read of Communion with the Church it meaneth the Church with the Church and Church-Communion are Two Synonimal words and signifie Church Church And in the Creed the Catholick Church and Communion of Saints is a Tautology 2. But the Church is called Communion from Communication And is Communication no transient act but a fixed state 3. If the plain sense be That all Churches in the World are one Church as parts in the whole who differs from you in that We are all then of one Catholick Communion and shall believe that all true Christians are of one Church till the Excommunicators better disprove it 4. But have all the same right and obligation to communicate with each other 1. All do actually communicate with each other 1. In their Union with and Relation to our Saviour and Head 2. And in having one holy Spirit 3. Being the adopted children of one God 4. Being of that one body formally related to Christ. 5. Believing in the same God and Father Saviour and holy Spirit And 6. Consenting to the same Baptismal Covenant 7. Having the same hope of everlasting life These are the Instances of Christian Union and Communion in Eph. 4.3 4 5 6. And 8. They have also Communion in the same common benefits Pardon and Justification and right to life 9. And besides all this when they may be had they have Communion in the same species of necessary worship the use of the same Gospel and Sacred Scriptures and Creed of the same sort of Eucharistical Sacrament and Prayer and Praise and Thanksgiving in all parts of absolute necessity and holy Assemblies to that end consisting of several Pastors with their Flocks 10. Yea and all true Christians love one another as such and live in sincere tho imperfect obedience to the same holy Laws of Christ. In all this all Christians have Communion 2. And all have right to such measures of Local Communion where they come as they are in a more immediate capacity of 3. And all are obliged to exercise so much Mental and Local Communion as is necessary to edification and to the exercise of Christian love and peace besides what is forementioned But yet 1. All Churches on Earth are separate by distance as to Local Communion 2. No Two Churches or Men on Earth are perfectly united as to Mental C●mmunion There are Multitudes of degrees of differences in this 3. There are very many just causes of diversifying Local Communion in the same City Diocess or other Precincts and of diversifying individual Pastoral Relation and single proper Church-Communion Diversity of Languages is a cause that no man can deny The excessive Magnitude of a Church that is the Multitude of Persons is another Suppose that I were first and alone made Pastor of a Church in Mexico or Quinsay and I am not able to do the work of a Pastor for a Thousand Souls I get the help of Three or Four Presbyters and Deacons and we all are utterly unable to do the Pastoral work for Four Thousand may Four Thousand or Forty Thousand more claim of me the performance of the Pastoral Office Am I bound to undertake Tenfold more than I am able to perform Then Men may not only enslave me but damn me at their pleasure and pretend their right to Communion with me If you say I am bound to multiply Presbyters in the same Church to sufficiency I answer 1. What if I can neither have Men nor Maintenance 2. What if I think that when the Multitude is so great that I cannot know them nor they ever speak with me or know one another any more than Men of several Countreys that I ought not to undertake a personal oversight of them but perswade them to associate in Churches capable of such oversight It 's no breach of Charity for one School-Master or Physician to refuse a personal Relation as School-Master to Five Hundred Schools or Physician to all the City or Five Hundred Hospitals tho he have Apothecaries or others under him No Man hath right to more of my labour than I am able to perform If I be a Bishop and bound to hear and try the Causes of all that ought to come under Church Censure in a whole Diocess and am
Application that I cannot let it pass His words are these As in the constitution of man 1. The rational soul is the real form which is principium motus The organized body is the constitutive matter That there be Heart Liver Stomack is but the bodies organization That these parts be duly placed and united is forma corporis non hominis and make the body but materia disposita 3. The union of soul and body is that nexus like the copula in a proposition which may be called the relative form or that which maketh the soul become forma in actu Reader Dost thou know as a Philosopher what a man is and dost thou doubt of ever a word of this If this Doctor be ignorant of it had he not been a Doctor and overgrown Humility and Learning I might have expected either thanks or silence from him But what saith the Man to it Had this Philosophy been known in St. Paul's days I should not much have wondered that he warns men against vain Philosophy was not Aristotle known in Paul 's days Aures erigite The Confutation will come anon I shall avoid disputing with Mr. B. as much as I can too late Sir and therefore will not quarrel with him for saying The Soul is Principium motus to the Body though it may be some Cartesians will not like it Hitherto we are quiet The Doctor is so modest that he will not deny that F●rma is Principium Motus And it is but a May be whether a Cartesian will I have met lately with University-men that cry'd up Cartesius as if they had been quite above Aristotle and Plato and when I tryed them I found that they knew not what Aristotle or Plato said nor what Cartesius neither Nor saith he for affirming that the Union of Soul and Body is but like the Copula in a proposition which is but a spick and spang n●w Notion Ans. The man is pugnacious enough but somewhat restrains him Is Novelty here the fault More than this was N●w to him within these twenty years and much is yet The terms of a Proposition are no Propositon till the Copula make them one by making the Predication And a Soul and a Body are no Man but as United which maketh the Soul to be Forma in actu Hath the man confuted this ' But saith he I shall only consider how he applies this to the Church Ans. How Sir do you accuse the Philosophy and now will you only question the application of it Christ it seems th●n is the Soul and Christians the Body though in Scripture he is represented as the Head of the Body and the Divine Spirit as the Soul which enlivens and animateth it And if Christ be not the Head of the Body which I think the Soul was never affirmed yet the Church must be without a Head or have another Head than Christ which I suppose is the reason why he talks so much of a Constitutive Regent Head of the Church Ans. It 's easie to suppose that the cause of these Words was a want of somewhat both in your Head and Heart that should have been there 1. Is this any Confutation of my Philosophy Could not a Quaker have talkt against it at as reasonable Rates as these 2. Do you not think that every understanding Reader doth know that both the term Head and Soul here are Metaphors as spoken of Christ Both of them signifie the form of the Society because the Head is the seat of the Soul in its Rational Regent Acts the King is called the Head of his Kingdom that is He is forma Regni for the Politick forms of Society is their forms of Government And so as the Church is a Politick Society Christ is the form of it But it is nobler than all meer humane Policies and his Headship is Essentiated by the three parts of his Office in One as he is Prophet Priest and King and as the principle of Knowledge Love and Practice and his Church is together Dominion Kingdom and a Society of Friendship or Family And the Head which is the seat of the Soul as operative by Intellection Sense and Motion most aptly representeth all this in Christ. But while the Head-part of the Body is this Seat the Soul is in it the operator And Christ as Man is part of the Church in and by whom his Divine nature performeth the operations And as the Soul is the form of the Man Christ is the form of his Church quae dat esse nomen And that the Holy Ghost illuminateth and quickneth and comforteth is so far from being against this that it is the chief proof of it For the Spirit proceedeth from the Father and the Son and is the Spirit of Christ sent by him and what he doth herein Christ doth by him Opera trinitatis ad extra sunt in-divisa Who would have thought that a Christian durst deny Christ to be forma Ecclesiae as the Soul is of a Man and the King of a Kingdom Doth the Man give you the least proof but his vain word that Christ cannot be both as a Head and a Soul that is forma informans to his Church or that Christ is not the Soul because the Holy Ghost is But I think neither is called by the name of a Soul in the Scriptures But I pray you tell us what these Texts import Rom. 8.10 If Christ be in you the spirit is life John 17.23 I in them and thou in me that they may be made perfect in one 5.26 He hath given the Son to have life in himself 21. He quickeneth whom he will 6.51 57. I am the living bread he that eateth me shall live by me 1 Cor. 6.15 Your bodies are the members of Christ. 17. He that is joyned to the Lord is one spirit 8.6 Our Lord Iesus Christ by whom are all things and we by him 12. As the body is One and hath many members and all the members of that One body being many are one body so also is Christ. 27. Ye are the body of Christ. 2 Cor. 3.17 The Lord is that Spirit 18. We are changed into the same Image from glory to glory 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 John 1.4 In him was Life and the Life was the Light of men 2 Cor. 13.5 Iesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates Gal. 2.20 Not I but Christ liveth in me Gal. 3.19 Till Christ be formed in you Eph. 1.22 23. Head over all things to his Church which is his body the fulness of him that filleth all in all Eph. 3.15 17. Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith 4.15 16. May grow up into him in all things who is the Head Christ from whom the whole body fitly joyned together and compacted by that which every joint supplyeth maketh increase of the body Eph. 5.30 We are the members of his body of his flesh and of his bones
mine § 29. Saith he I had at large proved the necessity of one Catholick Communion to make one Catholick Church and instead of answering the proef he asserts the contrary upon his own naked authority and that must pass for confutation Ans. Could a man have spoken more untruly that had studied it 1. While he tells us that by Communion he means Union did I ever deny it No nor ever met with a Christian that denied it 2. Yea I said more than he That besides Union some Communion in transient acts is necessary which he placeth not his Communion in Is not this an hardened Disputer Who can doubt but Union and Communion is necessary to one Church But the doubt is wherein it doth consist whether in Essentials Integrals or Accidents and what these be We are far more for Catholick Union and Communion than you We are for Communion with all true Christians even those that you represent odious and excommunicate and ruin and you are for Communion with a Sect that will honour you and obey your will We know that to have one God and Christ and Holy Spirit one Faith and Hope of Heaven one Baptism and a true Love to one another and to be all under one Law and Covenant of Christ and in our several Assemblies to read the same Scripture use the same Sacraments and the same Rule of Prayer the Lord's Prayer and Praise this is a most excellent Catholick Communion We believe that true Christian Unity is the Unity of the Spirit that is mental in Faith Hope and Love but that it must be held exercised and preserved in the bond of peace Eph. 4 3. And therefore if any Christian take it for a sin to joyn with us in the circumstances of Worship if we can we 'l alter them to satisfie them If we cannot we will gladly allow them to worship God together in their own circumstances and there we will love and pray for one another We will not cut men off from Christ or the Catholick Church and damn them for not swearing or saying that they will obey us and that there is nothing sinful in any of our Government Liturgies Forms or Ceremonies Our Union is in greater matters common to all Christians and not in wearing the same fashions and reading the same forms and obeying the usurpers of the power of the Keys that are Lay-men c. And as for having obligation and right to Communion with all other Churches which is all that I can gather he placeth it in save obeying the same Bishops and Canons we make no doubt of such right to be used in due order And therefore we condemn all Church Tyrants that deny men their right And we do not believe that our right is in the power of Prelates to take from us unless we forfeit it and cast it away And we grant obligation to due Communion as well as right and therefore will be no such Separatists as you are that refuse Communion with Dissenters in their Churches yea condemn all that do but call them Churches And seeing no man is obliged to sin we disown their crime that will not let men preach nor communicate unless they will make a solemn Covenant to sin The Catholick Communion that he seems to aim at is to receive and reject the same persons in every Church that are received in or rejected by any one We are for as much of this as is needful to the purity and peace of the Church But we do not believe that all the Christian World is bound to take all the godly persons for excommunicate who shall be excommunicated here according to the 5 th 6 th 7 th 8 th c. Canons of the Church of England nor to silence all Ministers that you silence When we were newly silenced 1662. some great men were imployed to affirm That if we would go and preach to the Americans it was an excellent work and they would bear our charges I told them that our lives would be spent e're we could learn their Languages as fit to preach to them But it seems if we had gone Catholick Communion would have silenced us there too and have obliged the Americans if we converted them to reject us What if Bishops excommunicate men for not paying the Civilians their Fees or for not repenting of a truth or silence us for not assenting and consenting to all in their book must all the World reject us in conformity to them It 's an heinous crime for any one man to draw a Nation to sin with him but much more to engage all the Christian World to sin with him yea and that on pretence of Catholick Communion Christ saith by his Spirit in his Apostle Him that is weak in the faith receive and receive one another as Christ received us If Bishops silence and excommunicate even them that ate strong in the Faith must all the World disobey Christ to obey them If you grant that clave errante they bind not must we take their bare words that claves non errant or must we become Tryers and Judges of all the World that they will judg And how shall all Churches receive the same that some receive when you know not whom you receive your selves Are all the score thousands that are in some of your great Parishes in your Church Must all the World take all the Sadduces Hobbists Infidels and Damners that dwell in your Parishes into their Communion No nor all that come to the Altar when the Priest knows not who they be and never saw them before Do you use to write Testimonial Letters for every one of your Communicants when he travelleth into other Parishes or Diocesses Any man save a Nonconformist that had rather take the Sacrament than lie in Goal is admitted unless some rare Minister stop a notorious scandalous man till the Court absolve him If you make a Prison of your Church and say to all men Chuse this or Newgate c. must all the World receive such because they chuse the Church-Prison rather than the other And if we cannot possibly know which of our Neighbours be of your Church and which not in the same Parish e. g. Martins Giles c. how shall we know who hath right to Communion all the World over You must needs cast us on believing the Bishops words when as 1. They use not to give the World such notice 2. If they did we know not forreign Bishops credibility in France Spain Italy Poland Germany c. they most separate from one another § 30. P. 50. He proceeds He takes that for granted which I can never grant him That the Churches which are divided from one another by separate and opposite Communions may yet be all united to Christ for Christ hath but one Body one Spouse one Flock one Church and if we be not Members of this one Church as no Schism●ticks are we are not united to Christ Ans. 1. The Lord have mercy then
I durst no longer see Thousands of good Christians misguided into mistakes and like to be ruined for them and hereby hardening their Persecutors rejoycing the Papists who joyn with them in Separation reducing the Protestant Religion into corners and giving it up as publick to we may know whom censuring one another and dividing on these mistakes and fathering all this on God I say I durst not stand by in silence to see all this no more than to see men drowning or the City on fire without endeavouring to save men It is an exceeding great quiet to my Conscience under all the Confusions and Divisions that have befall●n us that in 1660 and 1661. I plainly and earnestly foretold the King and Bishops of them and did my best to have prevented them And the Author that I deal with necessitateth me to recite the late fruits of Separation in pulling down all Governments casting out all the Ministers in Wales and were near casting down those of England with Tythes and Universities persecuting and killing godly men and fathering all on God and now flying from the Bishops when they had opened them the door to return He layeth his main Cause on the ill fruits of Liturgies which indeed are rather the fruits of Pride and Malignity and constraineth me to shew the fruits of Separation I dare not bury that in silence which God so dreadfully disowned by their own diss●lution without any blood and that when multitudes are running into the old error by mistaking the Iudgment of the Nonconforming Ministers thinking that they took that for unlawful which they did not and condemning all the excellent old Nonconformists and Conformists and almost all the Churches on Earth Let wiser men deal wiselier I use the best wisdom that I have It 's true that abundance of good people fear and distaste Communion in the Liturgy What wonder when such Reasonings as these Twelve Arguments which how gross soever poor people have not the skill to answer perswade them it is false Worship and heinous sin and say others Idolatry They are conquered as the Mexicans were by the Spaniards by the frightful roaring of their Cannons the Militia used Acts 15.1 2. Ye cannot be saved and as the Pope conquered Kings and Kingdoms by threatning to keep them out of Heaven Even as since men tell me that they medicate their Wines with Arsenick and Mercury I am afraid to drink them which before I feared not so are honest souls affrightned from Liturgies and Communion How much in them I dissent from my self I have openly intimated to the World But he that will joyn in no good that is mixt by men with faultiness and evil must separate from all the World and all from him But how will he separate from himself England in her Articles and Ordination professeth to cleave to Scripture-sufficiency as being the Protestant Religion I go to joyn in this profest Religion If the Speaker of any side add any unwarrantable passages by book or without book let him answer for them I own them not Did my presence own all that I hear I would joyn with no man living The Lord fit us for a wiser and more loving World The Twelve Arguments said to be Dr. Owens impartially considered D. O. Posit It is not Lawful for us to go to and joyn in Publick Worship by the Common Prayer because that Worship it self according to the Rule of the Gospel is not Lawful 1. Ans. I Shall use the same Method that he hath used and first give you my Positions and then the supposed Matter of Fact and then consider his Arguments Posit It is not only Lawful but a Duty for those that cannot have better publick Church-worship without more hurt than benefit and are near a competent Parish Minister to go to and joyn in Publick Worship performed according to the Liturgie and in Sacramental Communion And for those that can have better to joyn sometime with such Parish Churches when their forbearance scandalously seemeth to signifie that they take such Communion for unlawful and so would tempt others to the same Accusation and uncharitable Separation The History of the Matter of Fact must be premised for the right deciding of the Case which is as followeth 1. God hath commanded us to Preach Pray Praise him and Administer his Sacraments and Discipline and hath told us what Doctrine we must preach what things we must pray and give thanks for and what Sacraments and Discipline we must Administer But he hath not told us in what Words we must do these nor in what Posture nor in what particular Method nor whether we must use oftest the same words or various nor whether they shall be before prepared or spoken immediately without preparation of words nor whether written or remembred nor whether prepared and composed by our selves or by others with such like 2. God prescribed divers Forms of Prayer Confession and Praise to the Iews in Moses Law and a Prophetical Song which they were all to learn Deut. 32. 3. The Psalms were a chief part of the Iews Liturgie in which there are many Forms of Prayer and Praise some made by David some by Asaph some by others and some in or after the Captivity no one knoweth by whom And those Psalms were not in Metre and sung in Tunes like ours now but lo●dly said over 4. Iohn taught his Disciples to pray not only as to the Matter but as to the Words and so did Christ his Disciples at their Request who had not then the after-pouring out of the Spirit nay knew not that Christ must die for Sin rise and reign in Heaven c. and he said When ye pay say Our Father c. tho not tying them only to these words yet giving them a Form of Words to be used as they had occasion as well as a perfect Directory for Method 5. Christ himself joyned with the Iews in Synagogues and Temple when they used Forms and so did the Apostles and never blamed them for the use of such Forms 6. Christ prescribed a Form of Words in Baptism and in the Administration of the Lords Supper and used a Hymn in Form 7. There are divers Forms of Prayer and Thanksgiving in the New Testament in Luke 1. 2. and the Acts and Pauls Epistles and the Revelations which its Lawful and Laudable to use 8. We are commanded to use Psalms and Hymns and Spiritual Songs which are Forms of Prayer and Praise and was not then in Rhime And it was not every one in the Church that composed these Extemp●re but some made them for the rest to use And if none Impose them by Office Authority or Perswasion the Churches will never use the same Christians in the primitive ages of the Church were known to the Heathen by their constant use of such Hymns sung to Christ and of Christ. 9. The Churches from Christs time to this had a Creed or Form of sound Words or necessary Articles of Faith
Translation the Building the Gestures Vestures Treasures c. You add another mistake that every thing that belongs to it is a part of it Then all these forementioned are parts of it for they all belong to it XVI Error What a strange thing make you of Gods Worship Then your Time Place Notes Words Tunes Gestures Covenant-Form Catechism-Forms c. are all parts of Gods Worship for they belong to it And then you must be separated from for adding them But after this mistake you say Outward Circumstances are natural and occasional no accidental parts of worship Answ. Just now all Accidents were parts or else Accidents belong not to it And now it hath no accidental parts Certainly this is the truer for I remember not that ever I heard of mere Accidents that were Parts A mans Name Relation Trade Cloathing Age House c. belong to him and are Accidents but no parts of him no nor his Hair if it be a mere Accident But do none of these duely belong to him 2. The word Worship as I said before is Equivocal as signifying only the Things made necessary to the honouring of God directly by Divine Command or the subordinate Acts Modes Circumstances left to Humane Choice In the former sense the Order Words and Forms in the Liturgy and in all our usual Devotions are Accidents and not Parts In the later sense they are Parts But whether this later sense of Worship be apt is but a strife about a word But you say they are natural and occasional Ans. Dark words 1. I think the Translations Metre Tunes Notes your Words and Method Table Cups Cloth Temples c. are rather Artificial than Natural Art and not Nature made them what they are If you mean that Nature commandeth them then God by the Law of Nature commandeth them and what greater Authority can they have But yet that is not so Nature doth not determine us to this or that but leave all to apt and prudent Choice And so he doth as to the form or words of Prayer If by Occasional you mean such as must be mutably fitted to just Occasions there is no doubt of it And while the Occasion is constant so may the Accidents But sure while they are such yea and relatively appropriated or separated to worship as Buildings Utensils and Maintenance may be they belong to that Worship which they are no parts of D. O. 2. Prayers and Praises absolutely considered are not an institution of Christ they are a part of Natural Worship common unto all Mankind His institution respects only the internal form of them and the manner of their performance but this is that which the Liturgy takes on it self namely to supply and determine the matter to prescribe the manner and to limit all the concerns of them to Modes and Forms of its own which is to take the work of Christ out of his hand § 9. YOur Second Answer is no better 1. If by absolutely you mean not generally but as opposite to conditional it hath no sense here that I can find But if it be in genere that you mean as the Context intimateth they are no part of Worship at all natural or instituted For there is praying which is cursing and striving against God and Goodness and praying to Idols But I suppose you mean de specie praying to the true God for good things needful And so it is another Mistake That this Prayer is not of Christ's Institution because it is a part of Natural Worship All is of Christ's institution which is part of his commanding Law The Law of Nature is now Christ's Law who by Redemption is become Lord of Nature and of all Iohn 17.2 3. Mat. 28.18 19. Eph. 1.22 23. Rom. 14.9 10. Iohn 5.22 c. He most strictly commandeth Natural Duties The Ten Commandments were of Natural Obligation XVII Error and yet instituted And as Love was called a New and Special Commandment as required on new and special grounds and ends so is Prayer thus far also new 2. And it is another Mistake That Christ's institution respecteth only the internal form and the manner of performance The internal form is inward desire offered mentally to God XVIII Error And is not this Natural if Prayer be Sure the Form is the Thing But the institution of Christ reacheth the Matter of Prayer as well as the inward Form and outward Manner That we pray for the things mentioned in the Lord's Prayer for God's Glory Kingdom Will to be obeyed c. for Pardon the Spirit Grace Glory c. That the Gospel may have free course c. It is another Mistake That the manner of performance is sinful which is not of Christ's institution The Words and Method and Length are the manner of performance XIX Error Can you shew an Institution determinative of all the Words Method and L●ngth of all our Prayers Or of all our Psalms Rhimes and Tunes and all our Gestures and Utensils c. By these words I am induced to hope that the common report That you were against the ordinary use of the Lord's Prayer in words is false for here you seem to be more for it than you ought For if all the outward Manner must be instituted by Christ sure the Lord's Prayer will be at least the chief part You say the Liturgy takes on it self to supply and determine Matter Ans. 1. Matter is more than Manner But this is another Mistake For the Liturgy supposeth that Scripture is the Rule and Christ the Commander of all the Matter of Prayer which is of constant use and need as the Articles of Religion and the Ordination-Covenant shew And you give no instance of the contrary But as to mutable Matter which vary as occasions by Providence do as days of Humiliation and Thanksgiving the 5 th of November and those things that are specially suited to some times and places you determine of such your selves in all your Prayers XX. Error It is another Mistake That thus to limit the Concerns of Prayer to M●des and Forms is to take Christ's work out of his hands If so then you must shew us where Christ himself undertook so to limit us to his Modes and Forms only else it is not Christ's proper work Is there a Liturgy of his making more than we ever heard of 2. And then do not all Ministers in every publick Prayer take Christ's work out of his hands Do they not limit the people in Matter Mode and Form of words What heavy charges lay you on your selves Do not the Composers of Hymns and Psalms so limit them to Mode and Form It 's clear that they do D. O. 3. Outward Rites and Modes of Worship divinely instituted and determined do become the necessary parts of Divine Worship See the Instance Levit. 1.16 Therefore such as are humanely instituted appointed and determined are thereby made parts of Worship namely that which is false for want of
Divine Institution § 10. YOur Third Reply is no better than the rest viz. That because Divine Institution makes Rites and Modes necessary therefore Humane Institution maketh such parts of false Worship XXI Error for want of Divine Institution I cannot imagine how so worthy a man could mistake so widely but by studying only what to say for his Cause and never thinking what may be replied God's determination can make any indifferent thing a Duty And doth it follow that therefore he hath left nothing to man's determination God's choice of Ierusalem for his Worship of the Tabernacle-shape of the Priests c. made these necessary Is therefore man's determination of the fixed places for ordinary worship of the form of the Temple of ordained Ministers false Worship God made it a duty to sing the Psalm Deut. 32. and other since Is it therefore false worship now to make Hymns for publick use Christ taught his Disciples a Form of Prayer may you therefore not teach your Children or Scholars any Christ chose a Text Luke 4. and preacht and that on a Mountain in a Ship c. Therefore we may chuse a Text and Place c. God appointed anniversary Fasts and Feasts Is it therefore false worship to keep the 5 th of November or the like God determined of the Priests maintenance Is it a sin now to determine of Ministers maintenance If God should institute and command all the words of your Church-Covenants Prayers Sermons they would become necessary Are they therefore sinful if man determine them If God had made all the Articles of your Savoy Confession or all the Laws of the Land they would have been necessary Are they now all unlawful because Man made them That which God hath commanded is no false Worship But God hath commanded the Churches to determine undetermined Modes and Circumstances needful in genere so as all may be done to Edification decently and in order and not causelesly to cross the Customs of the Churches of God and to obey those that are over them in the Lord. D. O. 4. Prayer and Praise are not the things prescribed and enj●yned in and by the Liturgy It is so far from it that thereby all Prayers and Praises in Church-Assemblies meerly as such are prohibited but it is its own forms way and mode with their determination and limitation alone that are instituted prescribed and enjoyned by it But these things have no Divine Institution and therefore are so far false Worship § 11. HEre are two more strange Mistakes 1. Are there so many Prayers enjoyned and the people called on with a Let us Pray and yet is not Prayer enjoyned There is some secret meaning in this For doubtless you would never else affirm it and expect that all men renounce their Sences XXII Error you can mean nothing less than that their imposed Forms when used as commanded are no Prayers which is another Error If so then all the Prayers of the Church of God for 1300. years at least that we read of were no Prayers And then you desire no part in the Prayers of any Churches on Earth at this day save New Englands or a few Separatists What wonder then if you be left without the Benefit of all those Prayers Is this the Communion of Saints in the Catholick Church 2. And are there no Praises enjoyned Are none of their Psalms Hymns and Doxologies the Praises of God when used You suppose that Christ will call them None or else you durst not And is such a Slander of Christ and the Universal Church no sin Your next Misreport is that by the Liturgy all Prayers and Praises in Church Assemblies are prohibited This is too Rash Where is there a word forbidding them XXIII Error This can have no Sense but that either none are Church-Assemblies that have a Liturgy or that nothing commanded in the Liturgy is Prayer and Praise in a Church-Assembly But if this be your meaning it is both ways untrue 1. Is there no Church on Earth out of England Or do they forbid any out of England to Pray and Praise God 2. Do they forbid the Dutch and French in England to Pray and Praise God 3. Do they forbid all Prayer and Praises in the Pulpits in the Parish-Churches 4. Have you proved all the Parish-Churches in England to be No Churches Where is your Proof how much soberer were the old Brownists 5. Have you proved that Commanding Men to Pray in such words is forbidding them to Pray when you set a Psalm for Praise is that to forbid all Praise Is not omnis modus entis modus and includeth the Thing D. O. 2. Argument That which was in its first contrivance and hath been in its continuance an Invention and Engine to defeat or render useless the Promise of Christ unto his Church of sending the holy Spirit in all Ages to enable it unto the due discharge and performance of all Divine Worship in its Assemblies is unlawful to be complied withall nor can be admitted in Religious Worship But such is the Liturgical Worship That the Lord Christ did make such a Promise that he doth make it good that the very Being and Continuance of the Church without which it is but a dead Machine doth depend thereon I suppose will not be denied it hath been undeniably proved § 12. TTo your Second Argument I answer 1. To the Minor Do you mean that this was the Intent of the first Contrivers and Continuers or only that it had this effect contrary to their Intent The first seemeth your Sence which is another misreport XXIV Error For 1. You know not who the first Inventor was 2. You know not all the Continuers 3. And so high a Charge is to be taken for a Slander till it be proved 4. Are you sure that you lay not this Charge of Malignity on the Men of God that made the Iews Psalms and on Christ that composed a Form of Praying and Baptizing and on Paul that commands Hymns and imposed on Timothy a Form of Sound Words And if you meant it but of the English Liturgy you could never prove that our Martyrs and Confessors that made it had so malignant an End But you speak it of Liturgical Worship in general which obligeth you to prove almost all the Pastors for 1120. years and more to be such Malignants And it s easily disproved whether you meant it of their Intent or of the Effect by assigning the true and better Intent and Effect They did it not to render useless the Spirits help but 1. To be useful where such Abilities were wanting It was the antecedent disability of Men that occasioned Liturgick Forms 2. And it was to be a help subordinate to the Spirits help to those that have it but in part as Spectacles to dark Sights and Sermon Notes to weak Memories 3. They are really a great help to many and therefore not made only to hinder them When fitter and more
prayer which yet the people should by joyning in make their own were they sound which they are not bound to do by Sermons And no man of understanding can chuse but suspect that weak ignorant Ministers will be shewing their weakness in the highest Duties and so must suspend their consent till late 4. That less care will be taken in speaking to God than in speaking to Men while most sober Ministers study their Sermons 5. That when to avoid disgraceful words and manner of praying men must decree that no such weak or unready men shall be Ministers the number that can do it better will be so small as that most Churches on Earth must be so deprived of Ministers and all publick Worship if that take place 6. That by this means young ignorant men that by use can speak fluently and fervently in prayer shall be followed by the people when many great Divines judicious and holy that have not that readiness of utterance shall be rejected as having not the Spirit 7. That as all mens bodies and minds be not in the like quickness and fitness at all times but sometimes clouded by Fumes or Weakness the publick Worship shall be as mutable uncertain and various as mens Tempers are All these on both sides are so great inconveniences that tho both Formalists and Fanaticks have derided me for it I have formerly said and still say That I believe that the best way to avoid both sorts of Evils is To have meet set Forms which shall be owned by the Church as their professed desires not being so long as to take up too much time from freer Prayer much less to forbid it which Calvin wisely ordered for France and Geneva And now as you have Historically told us the ill Consequences of a Lturgy I shall first tell you It is a Mistake None of these arise from a sound Liturgy but from the using that alone and not using also free Prayer with it And next I shall add some more of the History of Separation from Churches that have Liturgies tho it be as displeasing to me as it is necessary to the People I will pass by the Histories of Muncer and Munster and of David George in Holland and of Henry Nicols and the Familists which were the Off-spring of Separation And the sad Conflicts which they had against the sober Nonconformists and their sad Divisions among themselves in Holland and how many of them went further to Anabaptistry and more when Brown their Leader here turned Conformist It is only what I have lived to see that I briefly mention When the Parliament began 1640. there were few Separatists known comparatively in England But when they were encouraged by hope of Success they began to stir and shew themselves and two sorts fell in with them and quickly increased them that is 1. The exasperated Sufferers 2. Women and weak young Men who thought it a great honour in Religion to go far enough from Persecutors and formal or ungodly Ministers not seeing the Danger on the other Extream Holy and Learned Iohn Ball foresaw the Danger and wrote his Book called The Trial of Separation and after two more one against Canne and another against two New England Ministers The Assembly being called even sober and excellent Men that were for the old Conformity in case of Necessity but not otherwise Five of their number differing from all the rest save two more wrote for Independency This Controversie began the great Breach while the Five Dissenters stood stifly for a Liberty that Men might gather New Churches out of the Churches of the other Ministers of as many as should come to them in all places and should have all Church-Power in those separated Churches The other did not what might have been done skilfully to heal the Breach tho they did much The two Parties drew others into the Division Those called Presbyterians were the more quiet because they thought the Dissenters few Independency might have been tolerated but Separation was that which would not be endured when nothing was imposed in Doctrine or Worship which the Dissenters excepted against The Separaters finding themseves few were the more industrious especially to get Interest in Parliament and Army In the Parliament they could never get near the Major Vote but they had some whose Policy and Industry made up what was wanting in Number And by them they got the Army new modell'd all Parliament Men thence put out and Cromwell put in Power Second in Name and First in Deed He placed his Interest as Constantine did in owning the persecuted Christians who had no other outward help but him in declaring himself to be for Liberty in Religion and the Protector of all godly Men that suffered for Conscience-sake or feared it whereby the Dissenters that feared lest the Presbyterians would Master them came in to him and he got enough to Head his Army and great numbers also of Common Soldiers who were for Separation and being Men of other Parts and Interest than those t●at Fight only for Pay would not run away but Conquered almost where ever they came I lived in Coventry quietly and with godly understanding Men who thought all the Accusations against Fairfax's or rather Cromwell's Army as turbulent overturning Men had been Slanders After Nas●by Fight being near them I went for Novelty to see them There some sober Men among them told me how they had discouraged all the Orthodox Ministers save one or two and were deserted by them and turned Preachers themselves they that had most Self Conceit being the Speakers and in a word foretold me what Changes they would attempt against King Parliament and Ministry I went home and told what I saw and heard and being Invited by some of the soberest to the Army I told an Assembly of Ministers my willingness to venture Life and Labour among them to undeceive as many as I could The Ministers consented to my going Dr. Grew and Mr. Simon King yet living were two of them There Cromwell having notice of all before I came gave me no opportunity to come near himself or the Chief in Power But where I came I did my best For I found the Separatists half Arminians and the other half contrary Antinonians agreeing to use their Power for the Changes that were after made The Scots and Presbyterians they designedly and bitterly reproached The Book called Mar●in Mar-Priest and other such tell you their Dialect Their usual Titles were The Priest-byters the Drivines the Sinners of Westminster the Dissembly men and such like The godly able Ministers were more scorned by them than formerly I had heard among the Drunkards What they did after this England and Scotland felt They cut off the King they cast out Eleven Members from the Parliament After that they cast out and imprisoned the Major par which was the House of Commons and cast out all the House of Lords then by these they made the People take an Engagement against
the old Form of Government To be true to the Commonwealth as then Established without a King and House of Lords They ordered the Sequestring of all Ministers that would not Fast and Pray before and give Thanks after for their Victories in Scotland They then pull'd down this Remnant of the Commons and called themselves without the Peoples Choice Two out of each County and called them a Parliament These put it to the Vote Whether all the Parish-Ministers in England should not be put down at once and as credible Report went it was carried against them but by three Voices These gave up their Commissions to Cromwell He now becomes the Defender of the Ministers The Government is again Changed and he made Protector and Fundamental Laws made among themselves by we know not whom Parliament Lords made by him Parliaments called and broken at his pleasure The Government of the Counties put into the Hands of Major Generals After the Death of Oliver his Son set up and his Parliament first pull'd down in which the Reverend Author n●w opposed told me he was an Agent and next himself Then the Commons called the Rump were made Sovereign again Then they were pull'd down again and a Council of State out of the Army that did it is set highest Till at last by God's most remarkable hand this conquering Army dissolved utterly without one drop of blood and the King restored without opposition It 's true that serious godliness all this while much increased in most parts of the Land But how It was mainly by the excellent preaching and living of that Ministry whom these Separatists vilified such as the Assembly-men had been and by a middle sort of Peace-makers who engaged in no Sect but would fain have healed all For the effects of the separating party were these 1. The Land was cast into division and confusion by them 2. Ranters and Quakers sprung from them 3. Their overthrow of Government brought a Reproach on Religion 4. Seperated Churches of Anabaptists kept up a Religious War in many places 5. All the Parish-Ministers in Wales were put down and most of the Churches shut up Itinerant Preachers being set up in their stead lest the Parishes should be thought to be Churches Perhaps you 'l say That these Itinerants were better than the old ignorant Ministers But 1. Their Number was so small that there was commonly but one to Six or Eight Parishes so that the People publickly worshipt God but once in Six or Eight weeks And had not a Liturgy been better than nothing or than to live like Atheists 2. The most famous of the Itinerants were Mr. W. Cradocke and Vavasor Powel I knew them both The former was a most zealous man for practical godliness with whom I conversed in my Youth when in Mr. Rich. Simond's School in Shrewsbury he was concealed from the Bishops pursuit by the Name of Mr. Williams But how gross an Antinomian he turned after he had learned Separation before he was Itenerant there his Printed Sermons tell us where he so earnestly perswadeth men not to question their Justification after Conversion for any sin whatsoever they shall commit and more such like And his Printed Writings shew that Mr. Erbury of whom he learned Separation fell so far as that it 's hard to discern that he was at all a Christian. And Vavasor Powel was an Antinomian Now I crave a sober Answer to this 1. Whether a Liturgy had not been better than no Worship for six days in seven 2. Whether these Itinerants that so dangerously erred in Doctrine were not more sadly destitute of the help of the Spirit than they that only wanted ability to utter sound words without a Form or Books And had not good forms been safer for that People than the Doctrine of Mr. Erbury Mr. Crad●k Vavasor Powel Morgan Lloyd of Wrexham known also in Print It grieved me to talk with one of these Itinerants in 1663 who came to me for Counsel He had been an Anabaptist set up for an Itinerant over many Parishes I examined him and found that he had not any more learning than to read English and was grosly Ignorant in Divinity He was ordained for all that by a Bishop and conformed I wondered how he past their Examination He told me that they askt him no questions about his Learning or Knowledg but only whether he would Conform and so ordained him I have now opened some of the fruits of Separation in England as you have done the supposed fruits of the Liturgies but indeed of the exclusion of free Prayers And judg now whether all the ill effects have come from one extream The truth is having impartially observed the mischiefs of the Age in which I have lived I have found that both the extreams have been the chief causes and the Peacemakers both the most understanding and the most innocent And the nearer any of the several parties have come to them the more innocent they have been It is not meer Episcopacy or Liturgies that have done the mischief for such excellent men as Cranmer Ridley Hooper Farrar Parker Iewel Grindal Davenant Usher c. could use both profitably It 's not meer Presbytery for such as Calvin Beza Danaeus Sadeel Rivet Chamier Dallee Blondel have been excellent Lights in the Church It is not meer Independency for Ramus Amesius H. Iacob Ier. Burroughs and many others of that mind have been excellent peaceable men It is not mere Anabaptistry for there have been many peaceable worthy men against Infant Baptism and some Bishops thought it not of Divine Institution and when they were re-baptized continued in Love and Communion with others But it is Proud Ignorance and want of Christian Love causing Excommunicating Persecuting Separation or Schism in some and withdrawing censorious Separation in others who neither party understand the truth nor ever loved their Neighbours as themselves nor learnt to do as they would be done by The worldly P R. IGs and the unruly P R. IGs by Persecution and by causless Separation and Alienation have done the hurt But I will tell the Bishops that they should not be too angry with the Learned Author of these twelve Arguments For I know not three men alive whom they are more beholden to for their restitution by opening the door and sweeping the way and melting down or pulverizing all that was like to have resisted them I speak not of the Intention but of the Action by which the Separatists cut down the banks and when they had let in the Prelacy and Liturgy which they dislike then write and talk against them I will add one Question to this unpleasant Section If there be as few in all the Christian World yea among the reformed Calvinists and Lutherans out of our Kings Dominions that can pray as well without a form as with it as we have great cause to believe would he have all these Nations dissolve all their Churches and like Atheists cast off all
and all Ministers belong to his Worship and yet Christ hath not in Scripture named you but left the Choice of you to Man So of all Accidents undetermined It is another Error That the Prescription of Forms and Modes of things in Worship XXXV Error not commanded by Christ can arise from nothing but from Supposition of a defect in the Wisdom care and faithfulness of Christ. I confute it 1. You know not the hearts of all the World and therefore cannot say That this can arise from nothing else Did you know Ambrose that made the Te Deum and all that made and prescribed Psalms Hymns and Prayers and Calvin that made a Liturgy and Bucer and the Martyrs here and all that prescribed Translations and Metres c. so well as to know that all these and almost all the Churches on Earth do suppose Christ to be unfaithful 2. Is it only such a charge or Supposition against Christ which made you your self prescribe your form of Church-Covenant your Savoy Articles your Catalogue of Fundamentals your Lay-Elders your time and place of Meeting your Utensils and Ornaments at the Sacraments c 3. I tell you another possible end They did it because they thought that these Modes are mutable according to Persons Place Time Occasion c. And therfore that it belonged not to Christs faithfulness to detemine them and that they should deny his faithfulness if they did deny that it hath left them to humane Determination under general Rules and bid the people obey them that have the rule over you c. D. O. 5. Argument That which is a means humanely invented for the attaining of an end in Divine Worship which Christ hath ordained a means for unto the exclusion of that means so appointed by Christ is false Worship and not to be complied withal The end intended is the Edification of the Church in the Administration of all its holy Ordinances this the Service-book is ordained and appointed by men for or it hath no end or use at all but the Lord Christ hath appointed other means for the attaining this end as is expresly declared He has given gifts unto men for the work of the Ministry for the edifying of the Body Ephes. 4.7 8 11 12. that is in all Gospel Administrations But this means ordained by Christ namely the exercise of spiritual gifts in Gospel Administrations unto the Edification of the Church is excluded yea expresly prohibited in the Prescription of this Liturgical Worship § 19. TO the Major of your 5 th Argument I answer As to the former No man is to comply by Approbation with any thing that excludeth any of Gods means for instance not with you that exclude the great duty of Catholick Communion But we may so far comply with you and others as to joyn with you in Gods Worship tho you mix some evil Mr. Faldo at Barnet was fain many years to Preach to a people that excluded singing Psalms He did what they would bear when he could not do what he would He complied not by Approbation with exclusion for he spake against it Are you sure that all your ways have tended to the Edification of the Church Every weak Minister that preacheth or prayeth when an abler might be had hindereth the Edification of the Church Is it a Sin therefore to hear any but the ablest 2. That which hindereth the Churches Edification by the Rulers fault it may be the Peoples duty to obey for a greater good For instance ●t is less edifying to use our old singing Psalms than a better Version And yet for Concord if the Ruler appoint them the People must use them because Concord with that imperfection is better than to sing every one a several better Version or divers at once so a faulty Translation of Scripture a weak Sermon an inconvenient hour and place when Concord is necessary and cannot be had in the more edifying circumstances it must be had in the best way we can If the Sheriff appoint an unfit time and place to meet to chuse Parliament-men it 's a duty to comply rather than not to meet at all every evil so far excludeth good And yet we must not renounce Communion in all good where men mix any evil left we also give over all good our selves 3. Christ giveth gifts to men now in the due use of means and not by miracle Therefore he giveth them in great diversity and by hard Study and long Time Heb. 5. For the time they ought to have been teachers c. Therefore a Novice must not be a Bishop but an Elder whence the Office had its name All your pupils people or Ministers that had the Spirits gifts had not your redundancy of Expression And many can talk more fluently for falshood than good men can for truth I was never much troubled my self for want of words to express what I know but I have ten thousand times more beg'd hard for more Knowledg Faith Love and Hope than ever I did for the gift of utterance a full heart is earnest fervent and ready It is another mistake That the exercise of Spiritual gifts is expresly forbidden XXXVI Error unless you had meant that just at the use of the Litutgy extemporate utterance is forbidden but it is not so in the Pulpit And you should not confound things so different as is the use of the Liturgy and the forbidding of other prayers Nor yet the act of the Commander and of the People If Rulers should command Preaching Prayer c. to exclude the singing Psalms that is their Sin and not the Peoples who must not like peevish Children at meat refuse all because they cannot have what they would D. O. The pretence of mens liberty to use their Gifts in Prayer before Sermons and in Preaching is ridiculous they are excluded in all the solemn Worship of the Church § 20. THis answer is not only a mistake but of an ill aspect on your selves XXXVII Error It 's not true That the use of Gifts is excludeded in all the solemn Worship of the Church As if Prayer Praise Thanksgiving Confession Explication of the Scripture Reproof Exhortation Comfort Direction Benediction were no part of the solemn Worship of the Church Indeed some Superconformists have said so but I had hoped you would not 2. I said It 's of an ill aspect For 1. If Preaching and Pulpit-Prayer before and after be none of the solemn Worship of the Churches then all those Churches which seldom use any other saving a Psalm which is a Liturgick form have no solemn Worship at all 2. But if it be otherwise as it is then the Parish Churches so far excel most of you that they have all that you have Pulpit Prayer and Sermon and sometimes a Chapter and all the Common Prayer more And is not that better than your nothing except at Sacraments I know that the Nonconformists that I have converst with are in judgment for more
for reading the Psalms Chapters Creed Lords Prayer Decalogue c. But I have come into so few of their Churches that do any more than the common Pulpit work sing a Psalm Pray and Preach there that I have in that respect preferred the Churches that do all that and add all the Liturgy besides more than you use D. O. Argument 6. That which hath been and is obstructive of the edification of the Church if it be in Religious Worship it is false Worship For the end of all true publick Worship is edification But such hath been and is this Liturgical Worship For § 21. YOur Sixth Argument is but a Former repeated To the Major I grant it All that is bad is so far false To the Minor 1. And such is all your Errors and all the Disorder ill Reflections slovenly Expressions which any weak Minister useth and the faults that all men have in some degree D. O. 1. It puts an utter stop to the progress of Reformation in this Nation fixing bounds unto it that it could never pass 2. It hath kept multitudes in ignorance c. 3. It hath countenanced and encouraged many in reviling and reproaching the holy Spirit and his Work 4. It hath set up and warranted an ungifted Ministry 5. It hath made great desolations in the Church 1. In the silencing of painful Ministers 2. In the ruin of Families innumerable 3. In the destruction of souls It is not lawful to be participant in these things yea the glory of our profession lies in our testimony against them § 22. TO your Reasons 1. It 's not the use of a Liturgy that hinders Reformation but the abuse of it and forbidding other ways of duty 2. The same I say of keeping men in ignorance Use all other means and the Liturgy with it and it will keep none in ignorance Some Helvetia Ministers who endeavoured to have practised my Reformed Pastor in personal conference told me That there the common people go customarily almost every day in the week to a Sermon without Ceremonies or Liturgies usually with a Bible in their hands and continue as ignorant as those here that have no preaching 3. I think it was not the esteem of a Liturgy that made Quakers and Separatists here revile and scorn the best Ministry I think in all the World 4. Nor was it the Liturgy that set up and warranted such ill-gifted Teachers as Mr. Erbury Dell Den Paul Hobson Chillington Lilhurne Prince Wallwin William Sedgwick no nor Mr. Saltmarsh who wrote for comfort That Christ hath repented and believed for us and we should no more question our Faith and Repentance than we would question Christ. I pass by multitudes of Army-Preaching-Soldiers such as those in Major Bethel's Troop in the same Regiment that I was with against whom one day in Amersham-Church I was put to dispute from morning till near night to save multitudes whom they drew every week to hear them from their absurd Errors and at last they turned Levellers and Cromwell was put to hunt them to death The like I was put to with Brown an Army-Chaplain and an Arrian that maintained That Christ was not God in a Church at Worcester And this life I had with them long Was all this caused by a Liturgy 5. The desolations made in the Church malignant men would make with or without a Liturgy What may not be abused The Authors must answer for it Such as aforesaid Iewel Grindal Usher c. Preston Sibs Bolton and a Thousand such made no such havock It is not lawful to partake in persecution but we must partake in much good which bad men will abuse to persecution An excellent forreign Church hath decreed to reject all Ministers that are not 1. For the Antiquity of the Hebrew Points 2. Against Universal Redemption Our Learned Author here was for both these tho men abused them to persecution D. O. Argument 7. That practice whereby we condemn the suffering Saints of the present Age rendering them false Witnesses of God and the only blamable cause of their own sufferings is not to be approved But such is this practice And where this is done on a pretence of liberty without any plea of necessary duty on our part it is utterly unlawful § 23. TO your Seventh Argument The Major meaneth either Saints that suffer for well-doing or for ill-doing If the Anabaptists should be suffering-Saints I would be none of those that they suffer by But yet I would not be for Anabaptistry for fear of condemning them as the cause of their own suffering By that Rule I must own every error or sin that any Saint suffereth for 2. The Truth bids me say more than I am willing to confute this Error I have heard Army-Officers say That they believed abundance of the Ten Thousand Scots killed at Dunbar were godly men And yet you were one that publickly in Pulpit and Print accused them and did not justifie their cause for being Saints Do you think none of the Ministers in England were Saints that refused the Engagement and were sequestred for that and not keeping Fasts and Thanksgivings for Blood Are you sure that Christopher Love beheaded was no Saint Or did you therefore own their Causes To your Minor It is a gross Mistake to say That going to the Liturgy maketh the Refusers the only blamable cause of their own sufferings What! XXXVIII Error are you one that acquit all their Prosecutors if it be but proved that the Refusers are mistaken Who could have suspected this What if Presbyterians Anabaptists and such others err as you believe they do If any would therefore silence imprison banish or hang them dare you justifie it and say That the Dissenters are the only blamable cause of their own sufferings Sure you consider not what you wrote You thought not so 2. But are there no Saints that go to Common-Prayer Why do not you distinguish Saints I hope there are many times more Saints and wiser that separate not than that do And are not you as faulty for saying They sin as they for saying You sin if their cause be true This soundeth as too much of a Sect. 3. The Truth is Repentance is so hard a work that I see both Extreams fly from it on a proud pretence of Constancy and that they may not confess that they have erred It was the grand Argument that bore down me and others when we pleaded with some Bishops to have prevented our Divisions by some alterations Oh then it will be thought that we erred and gave cause for old complaints And now we must none of us hold Communion with the Parish-Churches lest some Saints that separate should be rendered False Witnesses of God and blamable But were not the old Nonconformists and Conformists as real Saints as the old Separatists and a Thousand for One And do not you now make them all as False Witnesses If really you have fathered any Love-killing dividing Error on God
professed that they are his I thought on Pauls case Gal. 2. who openly opposed Peter because he was to be blamed lest his great Name should make the Separation the most prevalent when Ba●●abas and others were carried away to Dissimulation and seeming to approve it It grieved me I think as much as any that blame me for it to seem to confute so worthy a man when he is dead and cannot answer for himself But I durst not let the writing of a dead man be so dangerous a trap for Souls and silently see the mischief prosper for fear of displeasing the mistakers But let the Reader know That it is so far from my design to wrong the Name of Dr. Owen by this Defence that I do openly declare That except in this point of his Mistake and who mistaketh not in more than one I doubt not but he was a Man of rare Parts and Worth And tho in the Tryals of the late Distractions of this Land I mention some of his Confessions it is to tell you that I had reason to hope that he repented for doing no more in his publick opportunities against the Spirit of Division which dissolved us And which of us need not repentance for our faults in those days of Tryal Ye● in his Doctrinal writings in his later Years he is much clearer than heretofore And even that Book of Communion with the Trinity which he writeth against whom I here deal with in the beginning is an excellent Treatise And his great Volumes on the H●brews do all shew his great and eminent Parts it was his strange Error if he thought that freedom from a Liturgy would have made most or many Ministers like himself as free and fluent and copious of Expression In the late time he had never been so long Dean of Christ-Church so oft Vice chancellor of 〈◊〉 so highly esteemed in the Army and with the Persons then in Power if his extraordinary Parts had not been known But Reader if this excellent man had one mistake against all Liturgies and for Separation from them when yet he was of late years of more complying mildness and sweetness and peaceableness than ever before or than many others and if you will use his Name and Authority for this one Error Let me tell you I am confident you will wrong Dr. O. by ignorant defending him I doubt not but his Soul is now with Christ and that tho Heaven have no Sorrow it hath great Repentance and that Dr. O. is ●ow more against the receiving of this his mistake than I am and by de●ending it you far more displease him than me There is there no Darkness no Mistakes no Separation of Christs Members from one another no excommunicating or renouncing of Communion They all repent that ever they did any thing against Christian Love and Unity and received not one another as Christ receiveth us and did not own Communion in all that was good while they avoided the wilful consent to evil Were D. O. now to speak to you I am fully confident it would be to this purpose Tho all believers must be holy and avoid all known wilful Sin they must not avoid one another or their Communion in good because of adherent faults or imperfections for Christ who is most holy receiveth Persons and Worship that is faulty and false if all faultiness be falsness else none of us should be received There is greatest goodness where the●● is greatest Love and Unity of Spirit maintained in the bond of Peace O call not to God to deny you Mercy by being unmerciful nor to cast you all out by casting off one another O Separate not from all Christs Church on Earth lest you separate from him or displease him God hath bid you pray but not told you whether it shall be oft in the same Words or in other with a Book or without a Book Make not superstitiously a Religion by pretending that God hath determined s●ch Circumstances O do not Preach and Write down Love and Commu●i●n ●f Saint● on pretence that your little Modes and Ways are only go●d and theirs Idolatrous or Intollerable and do not slander and excommunicate all or alm●st all Christs Body and then wrong G●d by fa●hering this upon him You pray Thy will be done on Earth as it is done in Heaven Why here is no S●●ife 〈…〉 Animosity S●cts or Factions n●r Separating from or Excom●●nicating on another Learn of Christ and know what Spirit ye are of and separate from none further than they separate from Christ and receive all hat● 〈◊〉 receiveth While ●ou blame canonical Dividers and unjust 〈…〉 do not you reno●nce Communion wi●h 〈◊〉 m●re than they 〈…〉 of too na●r●w 〈◊〉 ●rinciple● and in the time of Temptation I did n●t foresee to what 〈…〉 Con●usion and Dissolution and Hatred and Ruin dividing 〈…〉 did tend but the 〈…〉 in 〈◊〉 perfection of Love to God and one anoth●r bids me beseech you to avoid all that is against it and to make use of no mistakes of mine to cherish any such offences or to oppose the motions of Love Unity and Peace No doubt but now this is D. O's mind If any one think that my Answers to him favour of too much disrespect which I fitted meerly to the Words I answered confessing my imprudence and liableness to such faultiness I desire that none will approve my failings blame me for them but do not therefore justifie true Schism and blame the cause of Love and Catholick Communion As to the mention of former miscarriages which arose from the Spirit and Principles of Division the Drs. Argument led me to mention them so necessarily that I must else have wronged the Cause and Truth Defended And I had great reasons I thought both for that and for this Defence which I shall next enumerate IV. I am not so blind as not to see inconveniences that abusers will raise from all that I have said But while I put those into one end of the Ballance I have so much to put into the other as with my Conscience quite weigheth down I know that men have already made tenfold worse use of our Silence in this Case and the Opinion 1. That we were all for the old Seditions and Convulsions And 2. that we are now o●●he Dividers mind than ever they did of our writing against them And I have said so much against the active violent Dividers that should I say nothing against the Passive I should be partial and seem a Sectary my self Ovid taught me when I was a Child That Omnia perversas possunt corrumpere mentes Stant tamen illa suis omnia tuta locis 1. Truth and Love and Peace will be good when men have said and done their worst against them And I owe much more than this to their honour and defence Buy the Truth and sell it not is an old Precept These three are the very sum of all Religion and must not be forsaken or betrayed 2.