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A88838	An untaught teacher witnessed against. Or, The old bottles mouth opened, it's wine poured forth, drunk of drunkards, denyed of them who have tasted of the new. That is to say, the unsound, unseasoned, unsavory doctrines, and opinions of Matthew Caffyn, Baptist-teacher laid open, who in the county of Sussex, is cryed up to be as their battle axe, and weapon of warre, who as Jannes and Jambres rides aloft, and bestirs himself with the magick rod of his lies, slanders, aspersions, and unsound doctrines, labours to strengthen the hands of carnal professors, and to keep the beloved of God in bondage: ... Which doctrines, and unsavory speeches were received from his own mouth, part of them at a meeting of the people called Quakers, at Crowley in Sussex, others thereof at his own house neere South-water, before me and John Slee, upon the fifth day of the seventh moneth, 1655 ... / Tho: Lawson. John Slee.	Lawson, Thomas, 1630-1691.; Slee, John.	1655 (1655)	Wing L729; Thomason E854_12; ESTC R202688	20,795	30

is able to save the soul Iames 1.21 this is denied of thee who lives in pollutions and in the nature of the world the light who ownes which comes from Chfist it lets man see a necessity of a Saviour to save him from sin and by little and little begets faith in him as that from sin he shall be saved now abiding the end of faith is witnessed that is possessed which was beleived to be enjoyed so is Christ the author and finisher of faith doth this beget carelessnesse or bring forth iniquity no who live in iniquity salvation witness not but the same that saves from sin keeps out of sin all who abide in it 1 Ioh. 3.6 but what is this to thee who art one of the foolish women that sewes pillows to all Arme holes and slaies the souls that should not die and saves the soules alive that should not live by thy lies Ezek. 13.18.19 12. He said that that Christ that was crucified at Jerusalem and role flesh and bones c. is not really in any man upon earth but his spirit is I answer no other Christ we own but him who witnessed a good confession before Pontius Pilate and thou that knowes not that he is in thee art a Reprobate 2 Cor. 13.5 and the same Paul who said Christ is in you except you be Reprobates the same said Christ lives in me Gal. 2.20 Now if thou had been in the dayes of Paul who said Christ lived in him would thou have told him that Christ did not it was his spirit or would thou have told him that Christ did not really live in him or wilt thou set Christ in one place his spirit in another who is Emanuel God with us Mat. 1.23 and saith Christ I in them and thou in me Jo 17.23.26 Now wi●t thou oppose Christ and say he is not really in them who is it here that denies Christ who is it that wrests the Scriptures and now thou art a lyar who saith Christ is not really in any man upon earth Christ saith otherwise whether must Christ or thou be believed He saith At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you Jo 14.20 and he that eats my flesh and drinks my blood dwells in me and I in him but a wiser then thou may stumble at this John 6.56 and Christ in you the hope of glory Col. 1.27 Now this thou that stumbles at is that the Scripture may be fulfilled Christ is a stumbling stone 13. He said the Scripture is the word I answer that is another lie and the Scripture is a witness against thee it saith God is the word and the word became flesh and dwelt amongst the Saints John 1.1.14 and Rev. 19.13 his name is called the word of God Rev. 19.13 Now the Scripture is a true Declaration John 5.39.40 Luke 1.1 14. He said the Scripture was the word of Faith I answer that is another lie and here thou denies Christ who was before the World was or the Scripture was or Heresie Schisme Antichrist or false Prophet was Heb. 12.2 who is the Authour and finisher of faith Now thou sayes the Scripture is the word of faith now then how came Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob and Joseph how came these to faith and the rest who were before the letter was here thou makes it manifest thou art faithless not knowing the word of faith but puts the letter in its room and Rom. 10.8 Paul who was a Minister of the word of faith he was not a Minister of the letter but of the spirit 2 Cor. 3.6 but that eare that heares the word of Faith thou knowes not opened but the dead minde beares rule in thee so thou sets the Scripture in the room of him who is the Authour and finisher of Faith whose comming is as the morning who opens the blind eye and unstops the deaf eare Isa 35.5 15. He said the Scripture was the truth I answer here thou wrests the Scripture out of its place and sets it in the room of Christ who saith he is the truth Iohn 14.6 Now Christ saith he is the truth and thou sayst the Scripture is the truth whether is the lyar a lyar thou art the truth sets free Iohn 8.32 the Scripture doth not truth sanctifies Iohn 17.17.19 the Scripture doth not but thou may be ready to slander me because I say not Amen to thy lies and say I deny the Scripture which I do not for it I own to be a true Declaration testifying of Christ who is the truth Iohn 5.39.40 Luke 1.1 16. He said the Scripture did lead into the truth I answer that is another lie and the Scripture witnesses against thee which saith the spirit of truth leads into all truth John 16.13 and 1 John 2.20 ye have an unction from the holy one and ye know all things and that by the vertue of the unction in them and not the leading of the letter without them so the Scripture testifies of that which leads into all truth but is not the thing leading into all truth 17. He said the Scripture led into the knowledge of God and did teach man the knowledge of God I answer that is another lie and the key of knowledge thou here denies so thou art brutish in thy knowledge Jer. 10.14 Thou sayes the Scripture leads into the knowledge of God and teaches the knowledge of God here thou denies the Son and sets the Scripture in his place Mat. 11.27 No man knowes the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him and thou sayst the Scripture teaches the knowledge of God Rom. 1.19 what may be known of God is manifest in man now thou sayes it is the Scripture without that teaches the knowledge of God it is the spirit that discerns God who is a spirit and makes known spiritual things 1 Cor. 2.14 Isay 28.9 it is God that teaches knowledge John 14.26 The comforter shall teach you all things Luke 1.76.77 the Child Jesus Emanuel God with us he gives the knowledge of salvation Now here thou sets the Scripture in the room of Christ who teaches the knowledge of his Father and sayes the Scripture teaches man the knowledge of God here another lie is found in thy mouth and the key of knowledge thou casts from thee who disobeys the light which shews the sin and evil and another lie is put into thy hand even by the Angel of the bottomless-pit whose name in the Hebrew Tongue is Abaddon in the Greek Tongue Apollyon Rev. 9.11 so thou art opening and screwing but I say by thy searching thou shalt never finde out God Job 11.7 8. 18. He said no mans wisdom upon earth was perfect I answer Thou art turned from the light so thy wisdom is from below and thou and thy Generation who know not the Crosse of Christ but denies it knowes not the wisdom which is from above which is perfect in the Saints

eyes true it is the old man dreams Dreams but Sons and Daughters prophesie and Iob saw God while he was in the flesh but not with fleshly eyes Iob 42.5.6 mine eye now seeth thee said Iob but thy right eye must be plucked out and cast from thee else not know that eye which sees him who is invisible Heb. 11.23.24 25 26 27. 23. He said by the person of Christ no man comes to the Father I answer how long will the Nations be led by such blind guids as this who saith by the person of Christ no man comes to the Father when as Christ said no man comes to the Father but by me John 14.6 herein he denies the true way so is Antichrist let all who are simple judge whether this fellow lead towards God or from God who denies Christ to be the way so is a Thief and a Robber who denies the door so is climbing another way John 10.1 and Heb. 7.25 he is able to save to the uttermost such as come to God by him now thou denies him and saith he is not the way will any be so bewitched as to run after thee or such like O shameless teacher and without understanding who art so drunk with the Cup of abhomination as that thou staggers reeles stumbles and spews out thy own shame and denies the Lord who hath put a price into thy hand but it and him thou denies and no other Way but him we own who lighteth every man that comes into the world which thou denies and walks not in it is a way of holiness the unclean the Lyon the Beasts of the Forrest walk not in this way and thou who bears the Image of the earthly denies him who is the expresse Image of his Fathers person Heb. 1.3 24. He said Christ was ascended into Heaven and is now sitting in Heaven with a body of flesh and blood with the very same body of flesh and blood with the which he did eat broyled fish among his Disciples I answer thou art an Image-maker and knowes not his body which sets free from the Law and from the body of sin Rom 7.4 and thou who lives in lies in the Customs and fashions of the world and in deceitful wayes contrary to that in thy conscience knowes not the body of Christ so art doting dreaming framing forming and imagining and setting up Images and likenesses in thy sensual wisdom of persons and places which who know his body from these things are redeemed Ephes 5.23 He is the Saviour of the body and his body sets free from sin and the Law if thou have an eare thou may heare Ephes 4.9.10 Now that he ascended what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth and no man ascended into Heaven but he that came down from Heaven even the Son of man which is in Heaven John 3.13 And flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God 1 Cor. 15.50 yet are we members of his body of his flesh and of his bones Ephes 5.30 Go learn what these things mean and thou that sayes he is in Heaven with a body of flesh and blood opposes the Apostle who was an eye witness of his Majesty who said flesh and blood must not inherit c. and said Christ glorifie thou me O Father with thine own selfe with the glory which I had with thee before the world was John 17.5 and Christs glorious body we own Phil. 3.21 so deny thee and thy Images and thy vulturs eye and the Eggs which thou Cocatrice hatches and the spiders webb which thou weaves which thy nakedness cannot cover Isay 59.5.6 call not this railing for a name thou must have according to thy nature whose lips speak lies whose tongue mutters perversenesse who trusts in vanity and pleads not for the truth but against it saying thou wilt root the Ministers of the truth out of these parts the marks of them thou beares that Isa spoke of Isa 59.1 2.3 4 5 6. 25. Matthew Caffyn said God did not dwell in any creature but his Spirit did I answer here thou would make good a lier who hath said I will dwell in them and walk in them 2 Cor. 6.16 Ephes 2.22 they were an habitation of God through the Spirit this thou stumbles at disputes and cavills against who art a stranger and a forrainer and an enemy to the houshould of God 1 Cor. 3.16.17 ye are the temple of God and the temple of God is holy which temple ye are Rev. 21.3 the Tabernacle of God is with men and he will dwell with them and who are of God this witness and witness against thee and know t●ee to be without God in the world who imagines God to be one where and his Spirit another where when as God is a Spirit and the Spirit Ioh. 4.24 2. Cor. 3.17 whosoever confesses in truth that Jesus is the Son of God God dwelleth in him and he in God 1 Iohn 4.15 26. He said no man while he is upon earth is in the Kingdom and that the chiefe of Saints have but by promise I answer thou art a bundle of lies and what hast thou to do to meddle with the Saints or talke of their inheritance who art prophane Esau selling thy birth-right for the earth who contrary to the light acts so a child of disobedience art thy fruits make thee manifest and with Iacob thou hast no inheritance who said he was a Minister of the Spirit he also said that they were translated into the Kingdom of his deare Son Col. 1.13 and the Saints were raised up and set together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus Ephes 2.6 and if any come to know the life of the holy men of God and beare witness to their conditions thou spreads thy armes abrode crying out of blasphemy heresie damnable doctrines so might thou have said of them who gave out the Scripture which was given to be fulfilled not for a heard of swine to feed on what hast thou to do to talke of the Saints who armes thy selfe with arguments against such as grow up in the life which translated them into the Kingdom so be a witness against thy selfe that thou art out of the Kingdom which is a Kingdom of light and by the light art found out among the Cocatrices Night-birds Cormorants Bitterns Owls Ravens Dragons Wildebeasts Satyrs Vulturs Scritch-owls ownthy mates who art pleading against possessing the Kingdom 27. He said no man upon earth sees Christ he said he had not seen Christ and when I asked him if he had seen God he cryed out of blasphemy I answer here thou art a witness against thy selfe that thou art one of them who hast eies but sees not Math. 13.15 Moses saw God Exo. 33.11.23 and death reigns till Moses so in thee death reignes so what hast thou to profess Abraham saw the day of the Son of man and was glad Iohn 8 56. and God appeared unto him and talked with him Gen.

AN UNTAUGHT TEACHER Witnessed against OR The old Bottles mouth opened It 's Wine poured forth drunk of Drunkards denyed of them who have tasted of the new That is to say the unsound unseasoned unsavory Doctrines and opinions of Matthew Caffyn Baptist-Teacher laid open who in the County of Sussex is cryed up to be as their Battle Axe and Weapon of Warre who as Jannes and Jambres rides aloft and bestirs himself with the Magick Rod of his lies slanders aspersions and unsound Doctrines labours to strengthen the hands of carnal professors and to keep the beloved of God in bondage for whose redemption the Lord is risen and is going forth in majesty and great glory and will triumph over all who have triumphed Which Doctrines and unsavory speeches were received from his own mouth part of them at a meeting of the people called Quakers at Crowley in Sussex others thereof at his own house neere South-water before me and John Slee upon the fifth day of the seventh moneth 1655. No Weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn this is the Heritage of the Servants of the Lord and their righteousness is of me saith the Lord Isa 54.17 Tho Lawson John Slee LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. AN Vntaught toungless Teacher laid open The unsound Doctrines of M. C. B. T. witnessed against 1. HE said severall times to us that he knew not what the tongue of the learned was being asked what it was I answer here out of thy own mouth thy shame and nakedness is laid open and to every wise man whose eye is in his head art thou made manifest to be the lying mouth which Jeremiah who had the tongue of the learned witnessed against who bore witness from the mouth of the Lord against such as run and were not sent of the Lord so did not profit the people at all Jer. 23.32 here thou art thy own mouth hath declared it who is gone forth calles the selfe a teacher yet confesses thou knowes not what thy tongue of the learned is Isay had the tongue of the learned given him to minister a word in season to the weary Isay 50.4 he did not minister till he had received the tongue of the learned for thereby he knew what to minister as he saith but thou takes upon thee to minister before thou receive the tongue of the learned or know what it is never did any of the holy men of God minister till they received the tongue of the learned but thou in thy own will art run unsent confessing thou knowes not what it is stop thy mouth thou lyer thou evil Beast who runs up and down pushing at the Ministers of the everlasting Gospel with thy horns such Paul called evill Beasts lyars and slow bellies Titus 1.10 11. who run and were not sent as thou dost who yet knowes not what the tongue of the learned is who subverts whole houses all that flock after thee taking upon thee to teach others and art untaught thy self only hast treasured up the letter in thy corrupt minde and ministers it forth to others as thou imagines of it so steals the word from others as the false Prophets did which Jeremiah cryed against Jer. 23.30 and the Lord is against thee as he was against them who stole words one from another as thou hast stollen the words of the Prophets Christ and his Apostles and treasures them up in thy corrupt minde but knowes not the tongue of the learned as thy fore-fathers did not who stole the word from their Neighbours so be ashamed of thy Ministry 2. He said he ministted from the word of truth otherwise called the Scripture through the assistance of the spirit of God I answer to say that the word of truth is called the Sctipture or that the Scripture is called the word of truth that is a lie search the Scripture and therein shew it me where the Scripture is called the word of truth thy ignorance of the word of truth here appeares as of the tongue of the learned 2 Tim. 2.15 Tymothy rightly divided the word of truth but he came not by the will of man and he was a Minister of the spirit and not of the letter and James he said Of his own will begat he us by the word of truth James 1.18 is this the Scripture is it the Scripture by which God works reforms changes sanctifies and begets again or is it not the incorruptible seed which is the word of God the word of truth which lives and endures for ever 1 Pet. 1.23 24 25. doth the Scripture live doth it endure for ever is it the incorruptible seed doth the Father work and beget a new by it or by his Son who is the way the truth and the life now thou may say we deny the Scripture because we bow not to thy fancies opinions but the Scripture we own to be a true declaration Luke 1.1 testifying of him who from the womb of love is given to bruise the Serpents head in whom and by whom God changes reforms converts sanctifies justifies and begets anew John 5.39 40. this is the word of truth of it the Scripture testifies 3. And he said he ministered from the Scripture through the assistance of the spirit of God I answer the blind may lead the blind and deceive the blind but the seeing deny all blind guides such as thou art who saith thou ministers from the letter here thou art shut out from all the holy men of God who were Ministers of the spirit and not of the letter as Paul was 2 Cor. 3.6 but thou art a Minister of the letter and not of the spirit as thou makes it appear who confesses thou knowes not what the tongue of the learned is and holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1.21 4. And thou tells of the assistance of the spirit I answer for shame give over and lay aside thy covers and pretences what tell of the spirit could not tell me what the Cross of Christ is what art thou so impudent and shameless as to tell of the assistance of the spirit and yet acknowledges thou knows not what is the tongue of the learned let the wise in heart judge and the least in the knowledge of God consider if thou be not in confusion one of Babels builders which God is comming to throw down and thy pretence of the spirit will not hide thee who ministers the letter in the dead minde and keeps in death such as follow thee and search the Scripture and own thy example the false Prophets in the dayes of Jeremiah who had not the tongue of the learned had nothing from the mouth of the Lord but got the words of the true Prophets and did pretend the spirit and did use their tongues saying the Lord saith when as

Jam 3.27 1 Cor. 1.30 who is of God Christ is their wisdom and he is perfect in the least measure so here thou hast uttered blasphemy if thou knew it the Beast that opens his mouth in blasphemy against God his Tabernacle and them that dwell in Heaven into the lake must go Rev. 13.6 19. Matthew Caffyn said the Scripture was the Touchstone to try spirits withall I answer That is another lie the Scripture is not the tryer of spirits to try the living by the dead that I deny the Saints have salt in themselves to savour withall and their own every vvhere they relish and know but the contrary they deny the spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets 1 Cor. 4.32 and this spirit owns it self over all this discerned and knew them vvho used their tongue saying the Lord saith vvhen as they had nothing but the letter Jer. 23. discerning of spirits vvas and is a gift of the spirit 1 Cor. 12.10 Novv thou sayes the Scripture must try spirits 1 Cor. 2.10 The spirit searches all things 1 John 2.20 ye have an unction from the holy one and knovve all things and by this unction they discerned Antichrists Deceivers false Prophets Hereticks and deluders and not by the letter vvithout and by this spirit did Paul discern such as had the form but not the povver 2 Tim. 3.5 and I vvill come shortly saith Paul and vvill knovv not the speech of them that are puffed up but the povver 1 Cor. 4.19 The day declares every mans vvork 1 Cor. 3.11.12 13. Mal. 3.16 17 18. In the day vvhen the Jevvels are making up and in the day is the discerning betvveen the vvicked and the righteous him that serves God and him that serves him not but this is by vertue of the day and not by the letter vvithout The sheep knovv the voice of Christ but deny to follovv a stranger John 10.4 5 and this the sheep do through the vertue of salt in them and not the letter vvithout them for a stranger may have the form and all the Scripture and there vvith deceive yet the sheep have salt to savour vvithall knovves him that uses his tongue and saith the Lord saith vvhen he hath nothing but the letter Jer. 23. and whereas John said Try the spirits whether they be of God or no. 1 John 4.1 this he spoke to them that had salt in themselves where the tryer was born they were of God and Children and a greater was in them then he that was in the world 1 John 4.4 Thou that sayes the Scripture is the Touchstone to try spirits withall tell me this how may a Minister made by the will of God be known from a Minister made by the will of man seeing a Minister made by the vvill of man may have all the Scripture the form as well as he that is by the vvill of God The Jews had Abrahams words Moses the Prophets words but they knew not Christ could not thereby discern his spirit but said he was a Samaritan and had a Devil John 8 48. and they knew not what spirit the Apostles were of but stoned Paul till they thought he had been dead Acts 14.19 Well may thou stumble at that which tries spirits who confesses thou knowes not what the tongue of the learned is Ephes 5.13 All things that are reproved are made manifest by the light what ever makes manifest is light which makes thee manifest and thy spirit which is to be reproved which light leads to the stone with seven eyes Zac. 3.9 and nothing but this discerns darkness and that which leads into darkness 20. He said the Law without man is that which convinces man of sin I answer that is another lie for Christ is the true light which lighteth every man that comes into the world Iohn 1.9 which sight is in man and he that doth evil hates it yet it reproves him and convinces him of sin and shewes him his deeds are evil who acts evil Iohn 3.19.20 21. this is given to the ends of the earth and leaves them without excuse who have not the Law without in that it shewes them evil and sin which is darkness Isay 49.6 Rom. 2.14.15 16. Ephes 5.13 as many as sin without the Law shall also perish without Law Rom. 2.12 and in Rom. 4.15 he saith where there is no Law there is no transgression and Rom. 3.20 by the Law is the knowledge of sin now read these Scriptures he tells of some that are without the Law and he saith moreover that where there is no Law there is no transgression So by consequence these are no sinners who are without the Law yet he saith As many as sin without the Law So that I say though they have not a Law without yet have they so much within as lets them see evil and secretly moves to turn from evil and this leaves them without excuse Rom. 1.19 And Paul had the Law without and as touching it was blameless and was alive in the flesh and saith he was without the Law so by the outward the letter he did not see him elf but when his eye was opened which had been blinded the spiritual Law then sin appeared and he died Rom. 7.9.14.12 verses and Iohn 16.8 it is the spirit which convinces the world of sin which in measure hath appeared to all men 1 Cor. 12.7 Tit. 2.11 12. and Isay 42.6 He is given a Covenant to Israel but a light to the Gentile 21. He said God and Christ was two I answer that is a lie and thou gainsayes Christ who said I and my Father are one Iohn 10.30 and Iohn 17.11 that they may be one as we are and that they may be one even as we are one Iohn 17.22 This Doctrine thy fore-fathers could not bear even the Jews who had the Letter but stumbled at the stumbling-stone and stoned him Iohn 10.31 and the rage envy and bitterness that lodges in thy heart and the swelling cruel words that from thee have proceeded sufficiently make known where thou art let that in thy own conscience witness thou knowes not him who is one with the Father but sets the Father in one place and the Son in another and changes the glory of the incorruptible God into an Image made like unto corruptible man Rom. 1.23 the Virgins birth thou knowes not which is Emmanuel God with us Mat. 1.23 22. He said he shall see God with his eyes which be carnall often pointing at them with his fingers alledging that of Iob Iob 19.25 26 27. I answ let all who know God in the least measure judge if thou be one of them who art changing the glory of the incorruptible God into an Image made like unto corruptible man who is telling of seeing God who is a spirit and invisible with carnall naturall eyes thou Image-maker what dost thou imagine God to be like who art doting and dreaming of seeing God who is a spirit with thy carnall

they had nothing but the letter when as he had not spoken to them such the Lord was against Jer. 23.30.31 32. this is thy example own it shuffle thy self from among these dreamers if thou can who knowes not the Crosse of Christ nor the tongue of the learned and hast got the words of the holy men of God into thy vain wily shifty peevish subtle crafty and untoward minde and there treasures them up and ministers them forth and uses thy tongue and tells of the assistance of the spirit 5. He said the means that leads to salvation is without man that is not dwelling in his mortal body I answer for all thy profession thou art got no further then the Pope who talks of a Christ without means of salvation without as thou dost but thou whose Religion and Kingdom is in words and in Lip-talk thou knows not neither what is the means that leads to salvation nor where the means is and thou art wallowing in filth and in the pollutions of the world so knowes not the word of salvation nor where it is hast thou not read in the Scripture that to them that are saved the preaching of the Crosse is the power of God 1 Cor. 1.18 if thou knew this Crosse what it is where it is what its operation is what it takes hold on what ground it strikes at and what it works out and what it lets in if this thou knew thou would not dream and imagine as thou dost Christ is the light of the world and lighteth every man that commeth into the world and from him light shines in darkness but darkness comprehends it not John 1.5.9 and this light is within and shews thee thy evil deeds and the pollutions thou lives in which if thou loved it that would lead thee to him that gave it even to Christ who hath given to every man a measure according to his ability which measure is in man and shews all wicked thoughts purposes and intentions that arise out of the heart of man and who loves it it leads to him who gave it out of evil to him alone who is the head of the Church the Saviour of the body in whom alone is salvation and not in any other name under Heaven this is the corner-stone who hath given a light a measure to every man that comes into the world John 1.9 Acts 4.10 11 12. t● is stone thou sets at naught who art a foolish builder seeking a way to salvation without thee so art out of the Doctrine of Christ who said go not forth when men cry lo here lo there Mat. 24. and grace in measure hath appeared unto all men which brings salvation Tit. 2.11 12. this grace in measure is in all men shewing evil as evil is intended in thy minde and him who loves it it teaches him to deny ungodliness so brings to salvation but thou and all who live in ungodliness and worldly lusts turns it into 〈…〉 so are of old ordained to condemnation Jude 4. 〈◊〉 that which may be known of God is manifest in man Rom. 1.19 it is in man that shews him evil and who love and obey it it leads out of evil and guides such into the knowledge of God to witness the salvation of God and from this thou art gone so in thy corrupt minde art pleading for means without to lead to salvation The Serpents meat is dust and for his meat he wrangles and pleads but the way of God is a way of holinesse which no unclean person no Lyon no ravenous Beast walks in Isay 35.8.9 but all unclean persons and ravenous Beasts can conform unto and imitate the practices of them who gave out the Scripture who were the ransomed of the Lord as thou dost and plead for that in which thou mayst live at ease so you deny Christ who hath given to every one a measure to lead to him who gives it and the Scripture in its place we own which testifies of Christ Jo 5.39.40 but to set it in the room of Christ we must not but are witnesses against you who deny him and set the Scripture in his place 6. He said God is one thing and his glory another thing as saith he my hand is one thing and this book in my hand is another thing I answer silence dreamer who would divide God and his glory and from God and his glory thou art seperated and God and his glory thy eye must not see but destruction who art an enemy to the Cross of Christ and thy minde is in earthly things tell of God and his glory and live in the pollutions of the world when as no uncleane thing dwells with him and it is Virgins that love him and all thy corrupt reasonings comparisons and arguings of God and his glory and for condemnation and that minde which calls God one thing and his glory another thing is accursed are from God and his glory thou art accursed who would divide God and his glory asunder 7. He said the Scripture hath in it the minde of God revealed so is a rule to guide men to Christ I answer holy men of God to them and in them was the minde of God revealed by the Spirit before the Scripture was written and his minde not any one comes unto but in whom the Spirit of God arises and rules as thou hast the Scripture which declares of the minde of God but his minde thou hast not but mindes earthly things saith Paul we have the minde of Christ 1 Cor. 2.16 and Phil. 2.5 let this minde be in you which was also in Christ Jesus none have the minde of Christ but them in whom Christ dwells though they may have the Scripture a declaration of his minde but conforming to the practises of the holy men of God in whom the minde of God was in the will of man this lets not in the minde of God but the crosse which shews the carnall minde which professes the Scripture and crucifies the carnall minde the same lets in the nature and the minde of Christ the Jews had the Scripture and covered themselves therewith but had not the minde of God but persecuted him whom the Father sent of whom the Father beares witness And thou saist the Scripture is a rule to guide men to Christ when as Christ himselfe said that none could come to him but as the Father drew him and every man that heard and learned of the Father came to him John 6.44.45 Here thy minde is contrary to the minde of Christ Christ said it is his Father that draws to him and thou saies it is the Scripture herein thou art Antichrist opposing Christ and his doctrine and here thou sets the Scripture in the seate of God saying the Scripture is a rule to guide to Christ when as the Scripture saith none comes to Christ except the Father draw him this and such like is the mist that thou keeps people in darkness withall but now thou art seen 8.