lesse then salvation through faith in Christ page 119. and mind his after explication saith he No taking away of sinne no Redemption Reconciliation or Atonement wrought for any but by the sprinckling or application of the blood of Christ upon them neither is it any other way of use to us neither doth it any other way speak good for us before God but as it 's sprinckled on our consciences by the power of the Spirit page 194. Neither are any persons redeemed or purchased with the blood of Christ not have they any part in his death and blood shed who have not their consciences sprinckled with the blood of Christ neither doth his blood any other way redeem purchase reconcile or make Atonement c. Surely were it not for the sake of some others I should no otherwise answer these greiveous blasphemies of the death Resurrection and presenting of the vertue of the precious blood of Iesus Christ and his invaluable Sacrifice offered to God his Father then they did Rabshâ—kah with silence Isay 36.21 For he knoweth that in the opposed Treatise it is shown by and according to Scripture that there is none reconciled in heart to God none Redeemed from among men to God no purgation in Conscience but by the spirituall sprinckling and application of the precious blood of Christ and so in the application and receit of that reconciliation propitiation Atonement Redemption purgation and righteousnesse which Iesus Christ hath by and in himselfe wrought with God for men and in whom it is perfect and compleat before any receive the same and though here through many mercies by him be reached unto men to draw to him yet this Atonement c. is received no other way but in receiving him in whom it is and from whom it is never devided as is also shown in that other Treatise of the discourse about the precious blood of Christ And in this Reply also which distinction he hath striven to confound and yet now in his fashion he would seem to acknowledge it but to the greatest dishonour to Christ and in fury to men and to Saints also that ever I saw in any writer that confesseth Jesus that was borne in Bethlehem and of the Virgin Mary to be the Christ which yet I hope in part he doth but here in these affirmations it is evident without any wresting or glosse 1. He hath denyed That Christ by the vertue of his blood and Sacrifice offered to God hath purchased All men of God and received the right of Lord-ship over them thereby and so a power and right of judgeing them by his Gospell and aggravation of their sinnes by his blood shed for them and mercies extended there through to them For he hath peremtorily affirmed that there are no persons purchased with the blood of Christ who have not their coÌ„sciences sprinkled with his blood and that his blood doth not any otherwise purchase then by sprinckling upon the Conscience And so hath plainly denyed the truth of those sayings of the Holy Ghost Ro. 149 12. Phil. 2.9 10 11. Acts 10.36 42. Psalme 2.6.10 2. He hath fully denyed all that preparation and provision of Redemption Reconciliation Atonement righteousnesse life and Spirit which God by vertue of the precious blood and Sacrifice of Christ presented to him hath made in Christ to be preached to men to invite them to come in to him and receive it yea for any but those that are come in and have it already for hee affirmed that there is no taking away of sinne no reconciliation Redemption or Atonement wrought for any but by the sprinckling or application of the blood of Christ upon them which is sure in their in-comming and within them and so hath denyed the truth of these Scriptures Joh. 14 5 9 10 11. 2 Cor. 5.10.14.19 Prov. 9.2.6 Mat. 22.1.14 3. Hee hath also denyed the will of the Father that all should honour the Sonne as they honour the Father John 5.23 for he denyeth the Lord Jesus Christ the glory of all the mercies light meanes and spirituall motions he by the vertue of his blood and Sacrifice offered to God hath procured for and extendeth to the Sonnes of men to call invite and move them to repentance and turning in to God for he saith plainly neither is his blood any other way of use to us neither doth it any other way speak good for us before God but as it 's sprinckled upon our consciences by the power of the Spirit And so he hath denyed the truth of that affirmed in John 1.4 11. Psalme 75 3. Col. 1.17 Rom. 2.4 Acts 14.17 and 17 26.31 4. Hee hath also denyed the mediation of Christ between God and men by vertue of his blood and Sacrifice offered to God 1 Tim. 2.5 Isay 53.12 yea and also his speciall Advocation and intercession by vertue of his precious blood and Sacrifice with God for Beleevers 1 John 2.1 Heb. 7 25. In that he saith his blood is no other way to us neither doth it any other way speak good for us before God but as it is sprinckled upon our consciences now in sprinckling on the conscience it speaketh peace and good to us and purgeth within And if it had not spoke good for us and Christ by it had done nothing with God for us what is that which brought it to us or is he of their mind that thinkes their was no dying of Christ for us but his dying in us I hope he is farre from that but I fort eare though here is just cause to say further only he hath denyed one part of that mediation mentioned Heb. 9 15. Thus hath he altogether denyed and raced the Gospell as it is set forth to be preached to unbeleevers as a truth that they might beleeve and in beleeving might receive and for not believing be under sinne for he hath affirmed their is no Redemption no Reconciliation no Atonemen and so no sinne taken out of the way no pardon no life obtained wrought or made with God by Christ or received into the hands of Christ for men to dispence to such as beleeve that it might be preached to them in his name that they might beleeve as Paul did to such as yet beleeved not Acts 13.36 37 38. but this mans sayings give out that of all this there is nothing done with God for any by Christ his Dying Resurrection Ascension offering Sacrifice and mediation by vertue of all with God nothing hath his blood done for any till by spirit it be sprinckled on their conscience nor doth it any thing with God for any by his presentment of it to God nor any other way but by sprinckling upon the conscience and sure that is not till they be made Beleevers so as they come to the blood of sprinckling so that till men be Beleevers and first washed by his blood there is by Mr. Garners doctrine nothing done for them by Christ of any worth to be told them to bring them
in him God did not set him forth for any thing he was not And then Verse 29. he sets forth the beleevers as the receivers and injoyers of it as for Gal. 3.13 1 Pet. 1.18 they were inconsiderately quoted to this as will after appeare but now where is the force of this saying if some places be understood of a redemption injoyed and other places speaking of a redemption not so injoyed by many must not they so be understood also but to speake not now so much of persons redeemed as of the redemption that is in Christ for men which he affirmeth to be no other yea he faulteth it to say it is any larger then that they for whom it is are partakers of in themselves before God and is not that really and approved of him see his Treatise pag. 3. and 25. He should doe well to tell us what he thinkes of Christ and beleevers is not he yet glorified for them in his body in the Heavens and shall they have no more glory in their bodies then they yet have if yea then sure the redemption is larger in the preparation then in the receit or are not they beleevers who waite for the redemption of their bodies Col. 3.4 Rom. 8.23 And is there indeed no more in Christ but only for those that have it already is there no more to be brought in nothing to be told them to bring them or thinkes hee that the Spirituall birth is before the naturall the Apostle tells us That which is naturall is first and afterwards that which is spirisuall 1 Cor. 15.46 he hath shewed the weaknesse of his opinion and occasioned the strengthning the perswasion of the distinction he opposeth by this saying for the Scripture plainly holdeth forth a two fold redemption or purchaseof mankind by Christ The first of God the second unto God the first as a preparation in himselfe in our nature to be declared as a medium in which hee effects the other which is by his spirit in men and the former in preparation larger then the latter in receit and yet to speake as the truth is the latter is most frequently called redemption in which some are brought out from among others with whom they were in worldly state and fellowship and unto union and fellowship with God in Christ and his people And this latter was that which is tiped out in the redemption of Israel out of Aegypt that shadowed the state of the world and yet in this redemption taken at large appeares a common and speciall salvation whence that caveate Iudg. 5.7 I will therefore put you in remembrance though you once know this how the Lord having saved the people out of the Land of Aegypt afterward destroyed them that beleived not so that thus far the distiction proves sound But to proceed 3. Hee addes to further his opposition page 4 that when mention is made of reconciliation c. for any persons under the Law we must understand it to be spoken 〈◊〉 of such an atonement c. as they were legally partakers of in themselves before God c. For which he coates many places in Lev. Num. Chron. Nehmiah I answer herein he hath shewed more weaknesse then he is aware off for 1. This Law was neither the Covenant made with Abraham Dev. 5.3 nor the Gospell preached to Abraham which as it is now more fully come forth is the subject of our discourse about the extent of it Gen. 12.3 and 16 18. with Gal. 3. to 8. yea this was occasionally contrary to the Gentills and a wall of separation between them and the Jewes Col. 2.14 Eph. 2.14 15. and yet now brought in by him to limmit the intent of the ransome given and purchase made by Christ And 2. The redemption of Israel out of Aegypt was not a tipe of Christ giving himselfe a ransome for all men and purchasing all men as is said 1 Tim. 2.6 Rom. 14.9 But of Gods calling a people out of the world into Gospell and church fellowship and so to God 1 Cor. 10.1 to 12. Jude 1 to 5. so as the instructions those and such-like places afford are such as many sayings in Mr. Garners Booke will not abide namely That though Christs blood hath been and is no more to be shed and Sacrifice once offered and no more to be itterated yet Beleivers stand in need daily to approach to God by him and to lay hands or exercise faith on him and in confession of sinnes to seek renewed sprinckling of his blood for further cleansing which still maintains the distinction he opposeth Heb. 7.25 1 John 1.7 8. 3. Hee himselfe saith of this Covenant of the Law that it is taken away with a perfect powrefull absolute and compleat memoriall page 63. lines 6 7 16. and yet he retaines it for his proofe which yet if it did prove any thing for his purpose I would accept it 4. But to limit the Gospell priviledges to the Jewish legall and to limit the extent of the truth of the Gospell message so the tent of the grace of God in Christ to mankind have it by that measured is in my understanding both a denyall of Christ come in the flesh and also a wrong offered to the mosaiecall Law which was never given to such an end 2 Cor 3. Ephes 2. 1 John 4.3 14 15. 5. Hee is to peremtory in his affirmation for if any man approached to the holy things in his uncleannesse he was to dye and how was he then partaker legally of the atonement See all the places with Num. 19. Besides for their participation their was more required then blood-shedding and offerings even sprinkling by the spirit to make atonement so that his application of Heb. 10. and Rom. 5. thereto is altogether unsound 4. He faulteth also the distinction between blood-shedding and blood sprinckling and me for setting down that the atonement and reconciliation was made with God by blood-shedding which with that I writ before comprehends the sacrifice offered and that it is received and men reconciled to God by blood sprinckling and then he layes down his main ground that must disprove the distinction and the sequell of his Treatise must prove that and this it is page 6. That all the blood which Christ did shed is the blood of sprinckling Behold and mind this wel because it is laid down as his bottome proofe that being proved must prove all the rest about opposing the distinction But note 1. The Treatise I writ doth no where deny that all the blood which Christ did shed is the blood of sprinckling nor can I suppose that either Mr. Den or Mr. Lamb have denied it in any of their writings a worthy businesse to make to appear that none denies and that when proved reproves nothing he laboures to disprove 2. There is in respect of the purpose to which he alledgeth this proposition much darknesse and obscurity what he means by all the blood which Christ did shed
dispense then he speakes untruly for though by and through be true and good words and included yet in him is the most proper tearme when wee speak of that in himselfe and so used by the Holy Ghost Iohn 1.4 1 Iohn 5.11 Rom. 3.24 Col. 1.19 and 2.3 9. But if he grant a redemption and life in this sense he overthroweth all he hath hitherto said if he deny it he denies the foundation laid by God in Sion to be such a foundation as may be for any that are not yet come in in the call of them a foundation for and of repentance faith c. or for any so coÌ„ming in to be built upon denieth him to be a dore of life for any not yet entered and the true Vine or Olive tree for any yet to be grafted in that are not in him already and so taketh away the key of knowledge from men and shuts the dore of life against them but if he mean it of the vertue and power of this redemption life in Christ in the fruites thereof inâ—dened to men as the preservation of their lives and mercies vouchsafed to lead to repentance Iohn 4.5 9. Act. 14 17. 17.26 27 Ro. 4.2 Then he saith right It 's most proper to say By or through for many enjoying these yet have not himselfe and so have not justification c. Iohn 1.5 9 10 11. But this sense holds not with his businesse nor after saying so that his meaning is of the redemption justification and salvation in Christ and which he is as it is given in or as he entereth and possesseth the hearts of such as in appearance of his grace are reconciled to God and so in abled to beleeve in him And this being his meaning his saying that IN doth properly signifie by and through doth give cause of suspition of ignorance and of errour First of Ignorance for this redemption Justification c. is not received in the receit of some discoveries or opperations only but in receit of himselfe The Scripture beareth witnesse of him and that which is in him Iohn 5.39 and so doth the holy Spirit also Iohn 15.26 1 Iohn 5.6 10. and the faith of the Spirits working looketh on him Zach. 12.10 Phil. 3.7 8 9. Beleeveth on him Iohn 3.36 and so receiveth him Iohn 1.12 and he even he himselfe is the Beleevers righteousnesse Jer. 23.6 and life Col. 3.4 made of God unto them whom he hath made in him wisdome righteousnesse sanctification and redemption 1 Cor. 1.30 and so as life is in him and he is life and they that have him have life 1 Iohn 5.12 So beleevers have their life in him and in the very having of him Ephes 1.7 11. whence their whole confidence and rejoycing is in Christ Jesus Phil. 3.3 whence though by and through in this sense be true good and proper also yet in Christ is as proper yea more proper of the two Secondly of errour for in receit of this redemption besides the faith and hope in him which it effecteth it doth worke in the beleever in all his faculties powers and members melting and softening the heart renewing the disposition and conversation and so redeemeth and saveth from the polutions of the World the tyranny of Satan hardnesse of heart and rebellious lusts and brings up and unto love of brethren and works of adoration and mercy Ezek. 36.27 28. Tit. 2.11 12 13. In which also the beleevers faith is justified to be unfained and lively Iames 2.19 c But I hope Mr. Garner will not say this is their life and justification before God in which they glory and rest and approach to God in confidence on though that for which they are thankfull to God and though they may be said to have this in Christ because it is effected in them from his presence by spirit in them and that which is borne of the spirit is spirit yet this is properly said to be by and through Christ and so this interpretation of in Christ by him remaines darke and boubtfull 5. Why doth he say the words hold forth a reall c. enjoyment by those of whom the things are spoken what meaneth this Doth any deny that when the redemption of Christ c. is applicatively spoken of concerning those which have received the same that the so speaking doth not imply a real enjoyment by those spoken of no sure the opposed Treatise every where acknowledgeth it and bringeth forth more testimony for it then Ephes 1.7 11. as he also might have done but that proves nothing for his businesse for it was in him before they received it and there is more in them then they are partakers of in themselves though by faith they have it in them and so his saying a reall glorious and sure enjoyment which they have of redemption Justification and salvation in Christ is good and true of beleevers if understood of having it by faith in Christ But if this reall glorious and sure enjoyment in Christ be understood according to his drift to confound the distinction and as he expresseth and explaineth himselfe page 10. and the three last lines which they are partakers of in themselves before God according to the riches of his grace by Jesus Christ then his saying is not Scripture-like nor savouring of the spirit by which the Apostle speake who acknowledgeth all fulnesse of redemption justification and life in Christ that by faith they had all in him and were compleat in him but in respect of a glorious enjoyment and participation in themselves they have not only confessed their life hid with God in Christ Col. 3.3 But that they had not yet attained Phil. 3.12 13 that though Sonnes yet it did not appeare they say not what wee are but what wee shall bee 1 John 2.2 And that they were carnall and though the spirit alive yet the body dead and that they had the first fruites of the spirit and waited for the redemption of their bodies Rom. 7 14 15 24 25. 8 2.10 23 such high flowne speeches of glorious partaking in themselves of all that is in Christ for them would more beleeve such as Himmeneu Philletus that say the resurrection is past all ready they enjoy all to be enjoyed 2 Tim. 2.18 But to passe by his saying in this sense What if the redemption Justification and salvation in Christ be spoken of Christ as it is in him and prepared by him for men and he and his preparation spoken of and men spoken to as Prov. 9.1 5. Mat. 22.1 7 John 1 4 11. and 3.16 17. what doth it signifie and hold forth then Doth it not signifie good will and rich provision in him and set forth him a light salvation and life that men might repent and come to him and have life doth not all the Scripture quoted to this end bear witnesse to this and doth not the opposed Treatise testifie the same and is not this that
nature and will and draw him God ward and for this Jesus Christ hath ascended to heaven and received spirit in the man to send forth even to the rebellious that the Lord God might dwell among them which he also doth send forth Psal 68 18. And so as in my Treatises may be seene I understand Jesus Christ makes men saveable 1. In himselfe as he is the second man the last Adam that stood in the place and undertook for the first publique man for him and all that were in him having taken the same nature and in it dyed fure for the first Adams sin or else for no mans sin and if for his sin then for all mens sin or else his sin was not al mens sin and he is in that nature risen just and hath offered up himselfe a Sacrifice for man and is now in mans nature glorified so that in him is peace righteousnesse c. So as in him as the publique man the nature of all mankind is as fully yea more abundantly saved restored and enriched with glorious salvation then it was fallen in the first Adam and this is as really in him for mankind as the fall and death of the former was 2. This salvation and life in Jesus the second publique man is as vertuous and more vertuous and powerfull in him and fuller of efficacie to make all that by grace come in to him like himselfe then the sin and death of the former to make those that by propagation come forth from him like him And both these are evident Rom. 5.12.14.18 19. 1 Cor. 15.45 46 47. 2 Cor. 3.18 And this is great salvation actuall salvation in Christ for men before it be preached or hee set forth as the propitiation Rom. 3.24 25. Heb. 2 2-4 3. He by vertue of this hee hath done and is become with God for men is now the Mediator between God and men and so procureth of God for men and extendeth towards them the preservation of the creatures for their use and space of repentance Psal 75.3 2 Pet. 3 9. which the Apostle cals Salvation and wills us so to account it 2 Pet. 3.15 The Dispensation of meanes and mercies as testimonies of his goodnesse Acts 14.17 which the Apostle saith is to lead to repentance and seeking the Lord Act. 17.26 27.30 31. Rom. 2.4 And with these means at some seasons some strift and motions of his Spirit to reprove c. Gen. 6 3. Prov. 12.23.24 And this with so much efficacy that at some or other enlightens every one in some measure that commeth into the world that was made by him Iohn 1.9.10 And by his workes manifesteth some truth in men Rom. 1.18 19. and so striveth with them But all this more openly and abundantly where he sends the Gospell which is a preaching of great salvation Heb. 2 3. wherein also is some presence of Christ by his Spirit to discover witnesse reprove draw to and apply salvation Though many breake all bands Joh. 15.26 27. 16. Mat. 28.20 Hosea 11.3 4 7. And this that they might beleeve Joh. 1 7 and be saved Joh. 5.34 And this with so much prevailency that he bringeth them in some measure to see and heare and toucheth their hearts Though divers like not the light and so willingly close their eyes and eares and harden their hearts Joh. 3.19 20 21. Act. 28.27 And all this is actuall salvation and extended that men might come in to him and partake of eternall 4. He hath eternall life and salvation to bestow on every one of them that in these his drawings come into him Joh. 17.3 Heb. 5 9. And all this was in and by Christ from the first beginning of his undertaking with God as is fore-shewne though since his comming in the flesh more manifest and in the fruits more abundant And this is meant by his making all men saveable so as those empty and undivine reasons of A purchasing only a possibility of salvation Of the ineffectualnesse of Christ his death before his acting it Of restraining the word Death to the act of his dying Of redeeming God of making salvation actuall by faith faith being neither Discoverer nor Applyer but only the receiver of what he by Spirit in the means discovers and applyes Of urging that if a potentiall wrought that should be the phrase Then no actuall as If he the God of the Valleys then not of the Mountaines are of no force and beseemed Lay-preachers better then Mr. T. W. As for the other objections of his owne framing I may leave them to his owne Answering though he might be bold There was a doore before so opened as 2 Tim. 1.10 as there was a well before Hagar saw it Genes 21.19 else not only some but all both Jewes and Gentiles before Christ came in the flesh are perished for ever But I may not slip over his Answer of his owne framed objection That if Christ Dyed not for all they want a foundation of faith To which he replyeth No. For the foundation of both our faith and obedience is not the secret but the revealed will of God which enjoynes every man to beleeve on him whom the Father hath sent c. Surely here he hath said something if he would either stand by it or make any thing of it But according to his direction wee must search to that in another place and here and there I will make the best of it that I can 1. As God is one so his will and though there be much more secret then is yet revealed yet hath he not in his word revealed any one thing for men to believe as his mind that is contrary to his will that is yet secret his sayings are all true certain c. Prov. 8.6 9. â—2 20 21. what an intimation of a heavy charge is this to the sayings of the God of truth 2. A Minister of the Gospell or a Beleever ought to meddle no farther about the will of God concerning any thing in their declaration then what by word or workes he hath revealed Deut. 29.29 to which those who are submitted when God saith his Sonne dyed for all will not conceit another secret meaning and use reasons to scare men from beliefe of his testimony 3. The foundation of Repentance faith and new obedience is not the injunction to beleeve c. But that which is to be beleeved even Jesus Christ as he is set forth in the Gospell Isay 28.16 Acts 4.10 11 12. 1 Cor. 3.11 And for whom there is not the Christ that hath dyed for their sinnes and rose for their justification there is no foundation for repentance or faith nor is there any injunction for or liberty to or hope in it for any man to repent or beleeve or to looke to Christ for salvation if where Gospell comes they doe not first beleeve that Christ dyed for their sinnes and rose for their justification 1 Cor. 15.1 4 17. so that in this grant Mr. T.W.
AN VNCOVERING OF MYSTERIOVS DECEITS BY WHICH MANY ARE KEPT FROM REPENTANCE AND entring the doore of Life In a Reply to M. Garners opposition of Truth stiled Vnvailing of Mysteries With Addition of A Reply to Mr. Thomas Whitfeild his Treatise with a three-fold Title BY THOMAS MOORE JOHN 5.39 Search the Scriptures for in them yee thinke yee have eternall life and they are they which testifie of mee Saith Christ Whose sayings are all True and Right LONDON Printed in the yeare 1647. CHRISTIAN READER BEing once in conference with Mr. Robert Garner that should have been about the lawfulnesse or unlawfulnesse of Baptizing Infants I desired the foundation of all might be first discoursed concerning Jesus Christ whether hee were the Propitiation for the sins of the whole world or no which took up our time without agreement then I yeelded him to wave that And if he would either set downe 1. What the Ordinance not the forme or materials but this ordinance of Baptisme is 2. Vpon what grounds to be administred 3. To what end and then set downe his position of the unlawfulnesse of baptising the infants of the Church And I would answer him or if he required I would answer the three questions and set down my position of the lawfulnesse of baptising the infants of the Church or profest Christians But more of him in this I heard not till I met with his book in which he hath fallen on the foundation endevouring to darken it and confute with his pen what he could not with his tongue and therein hath been pleased to joyne two brethren of his own judgement and practise about Baptisme with me thinking his friends will take it that he answers one in answering the other and so confutes both when he confutes neither the men I reverence and love and esteeme gracious and in many things before my selfe but I suppose if they did believe and hold the foundation in respect of the extent of it as I doe they would not count unlawfull the baptising of such infants as by gracious providence are brought into the charge tuition of Christians to bring up for Christ as I hope all Christians take their little ones to be But far be it from me to judge my Brethren that doe or leave undone to the Lord and for the Lord in maner of using an ordinance what have I to do to judge the servants of my Lord and Master to his own master he standeth or falleth but answer I may when they call me to it only for the truth of the Gospel and the plain sayings of Christ and against that which opposeth the same and so cals Christ execrable in opinion or practise do I contend and so far should I contend against the denying baptising infants or renouncing that Baptisme then received to take another and still love those I contend with yea as brethren so farre as they exalt Christ But the opposition of the truth of Christs own words in the Gospell and the faith thereof I cannot look at as done to the Lord in any better maner then Saul thought in his conscience he was bound to do many things against the Name of Christ Therfore meeting with a book of Mr. Garners with a glorious title opposing all the way the truth of the sayings of Christ I have been notwithstanding my love and reverence of the man and his parts the more plain and rough in discovering or uncovering those Mysterious Deceits covered over with acknowledgement of some parts of truth and pretence of unvailing Mysteries which I had no sooner done but there was sent me from London a Book of one Mr. Tho. Whitfeilds some yeares since a Minister in Northampton-shire and a Lecturer as they say also at Stamford and since as himselfe saith at Yarmouth and now I suppose againe in Northampton shire nigh Rutland who pretended an examination of my Booke which either he did very sleightly or answered very unfaithfully and mistaking or flying my sayings framed other supposing to answer me in Answering Arminius To whom for all that concerneth my Book my Answers to Mr. Garner do fully answer yet I have afforded a small reply to him that he may not thinke himself sleighted nor adored only I am sorry for the sake of Ministers profest Divines that so grave a one should publish Arminianisme with such weake and unsavoury confutations after such sound and learned ones â—xiant And yet more that hee should maintaine an opinion to condemne his practice for would he from place to place stand Minister over a people not being sure Christ Dyed for them all or would he receive wages for work of such for whom he hath no certaine ground that there is a possibility of his Ministry to be profitable to them or will he baptise any for whom Christ hath not Dyed or eate the Lords Supper with such will he 〈◊〉 an uncertain and be as one that beats the aire far be it doth not this if it should be so give occasion to others to speake evill of such Ministry Baptisme and Communion Surely for those of M. Whitfeilds mind being conscionable I marvell not they run into Mr. Garners opinion and practise As for my self seeing neither of them have granted those Christian requests in my Epistle before that Book nor can oppose but by confounding what the Scripture makes distinct and running to reasonings and wresting Scripture sayings I am still more confirmed and finding the quintescence of all oppositions I have met with to bee in Mr. Garners Booke I have resolved to let this Reply be for Answer to all till I meet with those that discourse more soundly not doubting but there are that may helpe me still with better expressions in mean time I have writ this to prevent many from being discouraged and turned aside from Christ desiring the Lord to make us of one mind in him as the Truth is in Jesus And so rest Thy servant in and for Christ THOMAS MOORE AN VNCOVERING OF MYSTERIOVS DECEITS BY which many are kept from repentance and entring the doore of life THE FIRST PART THis very Distinction in considering the redemption by Jesus Christ as it is wrought effected and prepared by himself with God for men And as by Spirit hee makes it knowne and there-through draweth men to himselfe and workes it in men affirming the one perfect and before the other and larger then the other is exeeding faulted by some Advarsaries of the truth of the extent of these sayings Joh. 3.17 God sent not his Son into the world to coÌ„demn the world but that the world through him might be saved Joh. 4.42 The Christ the Saviour of the world 1 Joh. 4.14 The Father hath sent the Son the Saviour of the world Ioh. 12.47 I came not to judge the world but to save the world 1 Cor. 5.15 He dyed for All 1 Tim. 2.6 Gave himselfe a ransome for all 1 Jo. 22. And is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world This
distinction I say is faulted and cryed downe as a fiction and subtilty in which it seems if that be proved true they are convinced and among the residue one that opposeth the same distinction is Mr. Robert Garner with the approbation of Master Hanzard Knols to whom as pertaining to what I have writ in the testification of truth of 1 Tim. 2.6 and Heb. 2.9 According to the sense the words themselves import I desire in love and meeknesse to returne answer to as much of his Treatise as concerneth that Treatise of mine and so whereas in his first Treatise called Mysteries unvailed pag. 1 Though he use not my phrase which I yet passe over he includes me usually to propound a certaine Distinction as the ground of what I pretend to prove which is not true for it was used to cleare the businesse for right stateing the question which is after proved and this is also so said to be both in the Epistle and Treatise Page 2. After he had expressed the Distinction right as I writ First There is a Redemption Reconciliation and Salvation wrought by Jesus Christ in his owne body with God for men Secondly A Redemption Reconciliation and Salvation wrought by his Spirit in men to God then he wrongeth me and saith falsely including me to call the former A reconciling of God to men c. for I have no where so called it it is not my tearme and though I conceive it not fully a proper saying yet I so farre reverence the Doctrine of the Church of England that saith Article 2. One Christ very God and very Man who truly suffered was crucified dead and buried to reconcile his Father to us c. And something agreeing to this may be understood Psal 85.10.11 that I reprove it not But the Tearme not being mine I take the charge of it on me as a falshood and so leave it 3 Againe Page 2. He peremptorily affirmeth that the Scripture warranteth no such distinction in their sense now sure the sense is as the words are And can a man of his reading and understanding be so ignorant of the Scripture as not to find it there or so rash as boldly to deny what every understanding reader may plentifully find there as to instance some places Prov. 9.1 2 3 4 6. Wisedome hath builded her house shee hath hewen out her seven Pillars shee hath killed her Killing shee hath mingled her wine shee hath also furnished her Table shee hath sent forth her maydens shee cryeth in the highest places of the City Who so is simple let him come in hither and as for him that wanteth understanding she saith to him Come eat of my bread and drinke of the wine that I have mingled forsake the foolish and live c. Mind this well Is not Christ that dyed for our sinnes and rose for our justification and offered himself in sacrifice to God for us the Killing the good meat the bread of life prepared to be eaten for eternall life Joh. 6.48.50.53.54.55.63 Is not the holy Spirit hee hath received in the man and for men to send sorth in the meanes in words and ordinances to men the wine he hath prepared to be drunk in for eternall life Psal 68.18 Isay 55.1.3.4 Ioh. 6.55.56 was not the New Testament and promise of Spirit ratified by his bloud Heb. 9.15 16. And as he is in some sort testified in his workes so he is plentifully set forth in his Word and Ordinances and so the Table furnished Prov. 22.21 And is not here a reall and true provision A rich store not lesse then a redemption reconciliation and salvation of our nature in the Sonne of God and for men even the worst of men not yet called and to be after called And is it in any before by the heavenly call they be prevailed with to come in and eat thereof and then is not the provision larger then the receit And doth not Wisdome the provision being made both send her maydens and by spirit go her selfe in and with them and call even the worst of men as by comparing this with Prov. 1.22 23. appeares and that not equivocally but in earnest to turne and come and eat and surely of nothing but what Wisdome had really prepared for them Yea though some refuse to turne and come and are therefore put by and eat not Prov. 1.24 c. Can you reade this Scripture and not acknowledge the truth of the distinction and that the former is larger then the latter But to proceed Matth. 22 2 3 4 5 6 7. The Kingdome of Heaven is like unto a certaine King which made a marriage for his sonne and sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding and they would not come Againe he sent forth other servants saying Tell them which are bidden Behold I have prepared my Dinner my oxen and my fatlings are killed and all things are ready come unto the marriage but they all made light of it c. Is not there the same with that in Prov. 9. A rich provision is it not larger then the receit and set forth and affirmed ready for such as yet had it not and are they not on that ground called and envited yet they come not then nor after for even for their refusall they were slaine Now I hope Mr. Garner will not say the second time There was nothing prepared and ready for them that in comming they might have had and eaten And is not the truth of the distinction here appearing And that the former part is larger then the latter in receit But I proceed Heb. 5 9. And being made perfect hee became or was made the Author of eternall salvation to all them that obey him Mind this well Is it not here affirmed of Christ 1. That hee was made perfect 2. That being made perfect hee was made the Author of eternall salvation And 3. That hee is the Author of eternall salvation unto all them that obey him Consider all these three as the Scripture sets them before us And so 1. For the first Was he ever at any time unperfect surely in himselfe in his owne person This Son of God that is the Christ he was perfect from all eternity Prov. 8.22 The Lord possessed him in the beginning of his way before his workes of old 23. He was set up from ever lasting from the beginning or ever the earth was c. 26. Before the hils was he brought forth c. when he gave the decrees he was by him as one brought up and was daily his delight rejoycing ever before him Coloss 1.15 The Image of the invisible God the first borne of every creature Philip. 2 6. Who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God Joh. 17.5 Glorified with his Fathers owne selfe before the world was So that in and for himselfe he was perfect in highest degree of perfection and so might himselfe without any of us
for the Sonnes of men And being made perfect 2. For the second he was made the author of eternall salvation is not that cleare also to be a further and distinct businesse are not the words plain And being made made perfect he became or was made the author of eternall salvation to them that obey him As he is the procurer He. 2.12 so he is the doner and giver of it John 1.12 and 6.14 and 17.2 And this saying eternall salvation unto all them that obey him doth impart that which Scriptures else where sheweth some salvation fore-wrought and vouchsafed that men might obey him in receite and exceptation whereof men doe obey him and in neglect and refusall or disobedience to him wherein also will appeare a distinction of salvation it selfe considerable if the sayings of the Scripture it selfe be heeded and believed which sheweth us 1. That Jesus Christ himselfe in his own body as the second publick man having in the nature of all mankind and for them dyed for our sinnes and risen for our justification and in the same nature being ascended exalted and filled with all fulnesse of grace 1 Pet. 2.24 Rom. 4.25 Hath so saved out nature in himselfe that all or any of that nature comming to him may and in union with him shall partake thereof Rom. 5.18 1 John 5.11 12. And he using meanes to that end that men might seek and come to him John 1.4 5 7 10.11 Pro. 8 4 9. Hee indeed is and truly so called The salvation and Gods salvation to the ends of the earth Acts 13 26. Isay 40.6 Gods salvation which he hath prepared before the face of all people A light to lighten c. Luke 2 30 31 32. A horne of salvation Luke 1.69 And I believe this is a true and a reall salvation and eternall and compleat in him before it be made known and the making known of him is the making known of salvation and that for remission of sinnes also though many receive it not Luke 1.77 79. Acts 13.38 39 And is not here a salvation a prepared salvation a salvation made known and set before men larger and farre more then have enjoyed it 2. The word that sets forth Jesus Christ the Sonne of God and saviour of the world and what he is hath done and doth in Heaven for us and is ready to bestow one all that doe believe and so calleth them and tendereth grace to them on believing It is called the word of salvation Acts 13.23 26 30 And they that neglect it are said to neglect great salvation Heb. 2.3 And is not here salvation even in the tender before and larger then the receipt and enjoyment 3. The extention and reaching forth of mercies to men Psal 145.8 9. as the persecution of their lives and so giving space for repentance Acts 17 27 28. 2 Pet. 3.9 Rev. 3.21 the preservation of the other creatures that they might serve for the good of mankind Mat. 5.45 Psal 36 5 6 7. and blessing these to men for the good and welfare of men in this life Acts 14.17 and all this extended through the Propitiation Christ hath made and ransome he hath given for men in which mercy and truth are so met that God without violation of truth and justice may shew mercy to sinners Psal 85.10.11 And he is not only good to all in that his mercy is over all his workes but also he is righteous in all his waies Psal 145.17 and so all these mercies are testimonies of his goodnesse Psal 19.1.6 Rom. 10.18 Acts 14.17 and that to lead to repentance and seeking of him Acts 17.27 28. Rom. 2.4 much more the word and Gospell where it comes discovering Christ which also is that all to whom it comes might believe Iohn 1.4 7 still further where his spirit comes in thâ— meanes striving with men Gen. 6.3 these with all the preservations and deliverances inlightenings and motions leading from any evill towards God as they come from and through a salvation effected in our nature by and in Christ and as they are witnesses of that salvation and come to lead to it that in receiving of it men might be saved so they are indeed and that truly called salvation or saving Exod. 14 13. Psal 144.10 and 36.6 7. Yea the Holy Ghost wils us to account that the long suffering of God is salvation 2 Pet 3.15 and thus in these respects he is the Saviour of al men 1 Tim. 4.10 Yea the salvation in Christ and love of God there-through appearing in all these fore mensioning mercies or saving or salvations doth come to men to call to reprove and so to allure to come to Christ The salvation of God and such as for love of other things doe refuse and come nor in are said truly to forsake their own mercies Iona 2.8 loose their own soules Mat. 16.24 Deny their right and lawfull Lord that bought them refusing his counsell and so bring upon themselve swift distruction 2 Pet 1.2 and are even for that cause given over to Satan and distruction not because he had not bought them but because they denyed him that bought them not because he had not loved them nor shewed love in doing good for them and to them but because they have been adversaries to him for his love and rewarded him evill for good and hatred for his love Psal 209.4 5. not because God sent not his Sonne that they might be saved and that Christ shed no blood for them nor extended meanes there through to them not any motions of spirit therein but because they have troden under foot the Sonne of God and counted the blood of the Covenant wherewith they were sanctifyed an unholy thing and have done despite to the spirit of grace Heb. 10.29 not because there were no truth in Christ for them nor love of the truth to them nor willingnesse and power in that love to save them nor it extended to them but because they received not the love of his truth that they might be saved 2 Thes 2.10 12. But held the truth in unrighteousnesse Rom. 1.18 Not because their was no propitiation made for them nor meanes used to purge them But because he purged them and they were not purged Ezek. 24.13 Not because he would not nor sought there returne But because they would not harken to his councell they would none of him Ezek. 33.11 Psal 18.11 Prov. 1.24 30. John 5.40 Mat. 23.37 no nor simply and absolutly in the first place because they could not But because when light came and power removing the yoake of the Jewes They regarded not his light and power that would have enabled them But loved darknesse rather and so were given up and then could not Hos 11.3 4. John 3.19 Rom. 1.18 28. now can any say he had no salvation in himselfe for them nor extended any to them and was no Saviour of them surely none can say so truly But they were rebellious and disobedient to him and
against which the opposer fighteth and for that cause faulteth the distinction But if he be sure of truth on his side then 6. Why doth he not set down his saying plainly why shunnes he the light and seeks to carry away his oppinion in the darke Why saith he not plainly the death resurrection and sacrifice of Christ the preparation of redemption propitiation Justification and life in him and the mentioning and setting it forth in the Gospell and calling men thereto is for no more then those that are partakers thereof both by faith in Christ and really and gloriously in themselves before God and that the declaration of all this holds forth no want in them to whom it is spoken but a reall enjoyment of all for whom it is prepared and that for those that refuse there was never any thing in truth prepared for them this had been plain dealing and as he knowes who once said thus so all his writing testifies this to be his meaning in his own often expression of his businesse pages 3.4 5 6 and 10 11 12 and 13 14 15 and 17 19 20 21 and 23 24. all which is fully and in every of his expressions answered in which both the truth of the proposition and the distinction opposed is cleared and proved and that in consideration of Redemption as in Christ for men and as received by men in reciving Christ the former is larger then the latter and so his Babell of confusion on which he hath walked through his Treatise is confounded in that is shewne Prov. 9.1 to 5. Mat. 22.1 7. Heb. 9 5. John 6 37 40. Ezek 24.13 Mat. 13. And all the answer to him hitherto though there was enough said in the opposed Treatise that remaineth unanswered and more and further explication in another Treatise entituled A discourse a bout the precious blood and Sacrifice of Jesus Christ in the first twelve chapters of that Treatise which may serve for answer in that businesse and so I might have the farther view of this opposers Tract because he hath here left my Treatise and answereth not thereto but because he pretends an including of mine as he goeth along I will take a briefe view and answer accordingly THE SECOND PART AND so as he includeth me in answering Mr. Lamb. This I find all the way that hee chargeth mee with putting on many Scriptures a corrupt sense which if I had done and hee had made it manifest I would have acknowledged it and have thanked him but I find no such matter at all discovered though often boastingly affirmed by him but I will plainly set it down without mending as it is in the opposed Treatise and then note what wayes hee hath taken to prove that sense corrupt and so whether it stand good or not The whole drift of the Treatise was to testifie the truth of these two places of Scripture according to the sense the words import and that was in my Title though another that is true also was put on it and the places were 1 Tim. 2.6 who gave himselfe a ransome for all And Heb. 2.9 That he by the grace of God should taste death for every man and the sense said by me to be imported Is this That Jesus Christ by the grace good-will and favour of God did taste death for every man and so gave himselfe a ransome to God for all men and so is become the Saviour of the world and the propitiation for the sinnes of the whole world This is the sense as the Holy Ghost hath left it for me in expresse words If Joh. 3.16 17. be compared with Heb. 2.9 1 Tim. 2.6 and Joh. 4.42 and 1 Joh. 4 14. and 22. And so is the sense exprest in that opposed Treatise Chap. 1. pag. 1. And all the five first Chapters with the Distinctions in them then used to cleare the stateing of the question shall now remaine as this Opposer calls them so many proofes to which he hath said nothing to shew the abuse of any Scripture or weaknesse of any proofe as he that reades that Treatise and seeth what is said may know and then the sense is opened and affirmed by plain Sayings of Scripture without any exposition chap. 7 which neither he nor Mr. Knoles is able to doe for the corrupt sense and contradictions of Scripture which he in many places setteth downe After that the sense is proved six severall wayes by the Scripture manifestly which hee hath not shewed the least weaknesse in and this from chap. 8. to chap. 19. And then againe by six severall arguments chap. 20. which he hath not so much as medled with And then againe by his severall proofes which also unlesse three or foure expressions in answer of Mr. Lambs Reasons mentioned by him he hath not at all answered besides following reasons that are all let alone Where were Mr. Knoles his eyes or his care of speaking truth when hee writ to the Churches that the most waighty reasons c. were fully and clearely answered which is true of never a one and but very few of the weakest also medled with But now as the sense is not only in but the very sayings of the Holy Ghost So let us see how the holy Ghost teacheth us to take it and when in the largest extent of the sense Psa 8.6 The Prophet by the Spirit speaking of God the Father concerning Christ that dyed and rose and revived to that end that he might be Lord of all Rom. 14.9 Thou hast put all things under his feet Now how doth the Holy Spirit teach us to understand the word All when it is used in mentioning the works of God in and concerning his Sonne Christ when it is God that saith or doth it And when it is his Sonne of or to whom he speaketh or doth how must wee understand All then mind what the Holy Ghost saith in Heb. 2.8 1 Cor. 15.27 Heb. 2.8 he rehearseth the words Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet now marke the Inference or Interpretation for in that he put All in subjection under him he left nothing that is not put under him What is the extent of the word All here Is any exception here of any but only of God that did put all things under him So 1 Cor. 15.27 For he hath put All things under his feet But when he saith All things are put under him It is manifest that hee is excepted that did put all things under him that is as is said God only is excepted from being put Under and marke that he saith when he saith that is when the Lord God saith and when he saith it of his works concerning his Sonne he saith not when men speak of Christ no nor when his servants speake to all men or of them nor saith he when God saith of earthly Kings He will put All under them that it is so large no not when Jew and Gentiles are opposed but when God saith and when
when they turned aside they came neerer to truth and had before been seeming servants to him who by this mans doctrine was but a seeming Lord to them whose heart trembles not at this But he will helpe it with comparing it with the Epistle of Iude let that therefore be also veiwed doth not Iude mind them of the faith of the common salvation and tels them of some that turned not a seeming or shew but the grace of our God into wontonnesse and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ Iude 2 3 4 doth he not professe for their admonition even therefore to put them in remembrance though they once knew this how that the Lord having saved the people out of the land of Aegypt afterwards destroyed those that beleeved not Jude 5. Doth not Jâ—â—â— here point the Christians to the remembrance of Gods dearing with Israel of old as Peter about their Teachers to the Prophets of old And was not this deliverance out of Aegypt a â—ipe of Gods now bringing men out of the darknesse and fellowship of the world to fellowship with his people which is somthing above that Mr. Garner opposeth and is not that deliverance called a redeeming them Deu. 15.15 and. 25.8 and 24.18 and buying them Peu 32.6 16. a saving Psal 109.8 15. so that here were a people redeemed bought saved yet many of them for their unbeleef afterwards destroyed and this writ for our admonition who is that which is so bold to give the holy Ghost the lye say they were not really redeemed bought saved but only seemingly so they perished really in the first overthrow but seemingly afterward now that men were once alive in Adam fell truly into the power of the first death but are in no sort truly made alive by Jesus so cannot be twise dead indeed but once really and the other is seemingly How thinkes any they shall perish in a second death for denying a seeming Lord a seeming redemption forsaking a seeming life in a seeming profession who like M. Garner to paint out these things in fine words yea in his conceit he hath so coloured and garnished these texts with his device that every understanding Reader shall see no other but take this his forgery to be as he professeth it to be even the mind of God not only in this but in many other Scriptures as he saith page 163. so that where the holy Ghost speaks not of mans goodnesse or works in purging or sanctifying themselves but of his own goodnes in the gift of his Son and of his Sons blood in the vertue thereof that had made a purgation for them prevailed for means to work purgation in them and sent his gracious spirit in the meanes with some prevailing effecacies to set forth the greatnesse of their sinne and the justnesse of their judgement like that Ezek. 24 23. that slight such grace despite such a spirit and ill require such goodnesse 2 Peter 1.9 Heb. 10.29 30. all this gracious workes of Father Sonne and holy Spirit he conceives must be taken for counterfeits and seemings also and who will be charged with hypocrisie here so that the evill of men in departing from the faith is their departure from hipocrysie whereas the Holy Ghost chargeth them with hypocrysie in their wayes when they are departed 1 Tim. 4.1 2 3 4 now he that dares thus deal with the Scripture pretend the originall put words for text that are none make seemings of truth and adde too and change the sayings of the Holy Ghost and call his own sayings the mind of God what error may not he this way bring in if beleeved But who that is wise will credit him that so dealeth with the Scripture VII I might note his intimation of difficultie in the plain sayings of the Gospell page 47.77 which when they speak of the foundation and first beginning of the Gospell are all plain and easie as they are now set forth as the Holy Ghost justifieth Pro. 8.6 7 8 Heare for I will speake of excellent things and the opening of my lips right things for my mouth shall speak truth and wickednesse abomination to my lips all the words of my mouth in righteousnesse nothing froward or perverse in them they are all plain to him that understandeth and wright to them that find knowledge and chapter 22.20 21. Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsell knowledge note the end that I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth and that thou mights answer the words of truth to them that send to thee Surely had Mr. Garner beleeved this testimony he would not have conceited so many impossibilities of truth and absurdities in the plain sayings of Scripture and under pretense of difficulties have so wrested altered and added to them to make them right to his seeming but it may be he will deny all this and say he hath denied no truth though he have often but onely sound out fitter words to expresse it but for that note Eccles 12.10 The Preacher sought to find out acceptable words note here words acceptable and pleasing to God and profitable and safe for men to vent and receive the mind of God in and what are they marke and that which was written up ight words of truth Where is he that can find us out more acceptable words to tell us the mind of God in or that will plead difficultie in his words in the beginning of the Gospell that he may help us with plainer words to give the sense wil such a one reply that in 2 Pet. 3 16. many things hard to be understood which they that are unlearned unstable wrest as they do all the other Scriptures to their own destruction Let such a one again mind this very place whithout colouring or wresting or glossing he may see 1. That the spirit by Peter speakes not here by things of the beginning of the Gospell of Christ neither what Christ hath compleated in his own body for men not what by spirituall opperation he workes and dispenseth heere in beleeving men But of the second comming of Christ to restore all things and so of the new Heaven and new Earth of which things Paul writ to these Hebrewes Heb. 2.5 8. and 12.26 27 28. and so in all his other Epistles in one place or other 2. That he speaketh not of all or any whole Epistle of Paul but only of some of his sayings about these things the comming and Kingdome of Christ c. and of these things he saith not all but as some Translators many some certain things are hard to be understood 3. That he saith not that the manner of his writing nor that the sayings but some things in those sayings are hard to be understood now this is commonly known a saying may be plain and easily understood what is said and yet somthing spoken in that saying above our knowledge especially in promises of this
nature though clearly delivered as is clear 1 Joh. 3.1.2 3. with Col. 3.3 4. the sayings themselves are a light so called 2 Pet. 1.19 4 Hee saith not that the sayings or the hardnesse of the things in the sayings did lead any to erre no sure if they had become fooles in themselves and beleeved the sayings and attended on God therein they should have had as much knowledge of the things as was meet for them in due season John 8.31 32. Prov. 8 9. But they not beleeving the truth of the sayings because of some things in them beyond their conception they did wrest them to bring them to their own conception and so hurt themselves 5. Hee faith not that all men or gracious men but only such 1. As were unlearned not spiritually inlightened and taught of God and so had not the faith and feare of God ruling in their hearts John 6 44 45. 2 Cor. 2.9 15. 2. Unstable such as did not abide in that which was plainly testified in the Gospell and which also they are at some time perswaded to beleeve John 2.24 3. And did wrest all the other Scriptures to their own destruction they did not so magnifie the love of God in speaking in the Gospell with words of plainnesse and truth for them to understand but tooke his sayings as the speeches of a Barbarian and so they beleeved not the sayings in their own plain repoit for in so beleeving or speaking they had not erred Mat. 2.5 6. But they did wrest mangle adde too or take from frame absurdities raise their own consequences and then make glosses and so wrested the Scripture to their own destruction so that all this rather holdeth forth the plainnesse of the beginning of the Gospell And if it be replyed that Christ spake many things in partables Mat. 13.3 Answer is it is true he did so and yet he spake the beginning of the Gospell clearly John 3.15 19. and the partables expounded to his Disciples are now left upon record for us and so that to us can be no sufficient plea Mat. 13. and Luke 8. But though he did speak many things in parrables before his death and resurrection yet he left in charge with his Disciples to whom he promised and after his ascension did send forth his spirit to teach them all he had said to them Iohn 14.26 that what he told them in darknesse they should speak in the light and what they heard in the eare that to preach on the house tops Mat. 10.17 and is not this given as a reason that the knowledge given them is a light set on a candle-stick that they that enter in may see the light Luke 8.10 16. And have not the Apostles professed to have kept this charge to have used great plainnes of speech not to put a vail over their face 2 Cor. 3.12 13. and to have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty not walking in craftinesse nor handling the word of God deceitfully but by manifestation of the truth commending themselves to every mans conscience in the sight of God 2 Cor. 4.2 and to write none other thing then those to whom they writ did read 2 Cor. 1.13 and so as when they read they might understand their knowledge c. Ephes 3.4 protested before God the things they writ they did not lye Gal. 1.11 20. And shall wee be such fools then to be cheated and drawn from the beleefe of the plain sayings of the spirit in the Gospell by unbeleeving intimations of difficulty to preferre mens painted fancies farre be it VIII He runs most upon reasoning and frameth reasons to find and conclude impossibilities of truth absurdities untruths and contradictions of truth even in the plain sayings of the Holy Ghost page 25 47 111 159 and 172. And so hovers about a text to fashion it for himselfe before he dare meddle with it the particular reasons I shall deale with in answer of his senses forced on many words and his latter conclusions only note this here this is not the way of faith or of a beleever nor yet the way to faith it beseemes Hethens and Pagons for their religion and not Christians It beseems us what ever our Lord hath said to beleeve it true right and good though it be a bove the reach of our reason and not to goe reasoning and inferring and so seek to have reason first satisfied and then beleeve But to beleeve first that reason may be subdued in beleeving till when it cannot be rightly satisfied about the truth and goodnesse of divine things seeing it is naturally an enemy to God Rom. 8.6.7 and must be subdued 1 Cor. 1.18.19.20 and such as have striven to have reason first satisfied have turned from the truth John 6.29 to 66. and this is the way by which the writers of Divinity and Phylosophy dissected have denied the creation and beginning of the world the drowning of the world severall actions of Christ and the resurrection of the body after death they conceit they see so many impossibilities of truth in the sayings so many absurdities and contradictions and they pretend discoveries of mysteries in which they affirm all true so denying the whole foundation of Religion Oh reason unsubdued Oh wisdome of the flesh what an enemy art thou to God I am sorry to see a man of such eminencie so swayed by thee IX He compareth the sayings of God concerning Christ and his workes by him with the sayings of his servants touching men yea and of others also as page 63. not to equalize only the world and all men in their sayings in the largenesse of the extent which yet were too much to equall man with God but to limmit the extent of those words in the sayings of God to the extent in the sayings of men which is very evill and dishonourable to God Isay 40.12 18. and contrary to our expresse rule Heb. 2.8 1 Cor 15.27 from Psalme 8.6 with Iohn 1.2 3 12. Though Mr. Garner hath done this hiddenly X. He limmiteth generall sayings of the spirit for propositions for faith to applicatory sayings of Beleevers by the spirit in profession of faith yea and maketh those applicatory sayings in confession of faith to be the true interpretors and oppeners of the largenesse of the extent of the generall sayings for propositions for faith pages 60 61 68. And by the same way of interpretation there is as much force every way to deny that God created every man because it is said of Israel one God hath created us Mal. 2.20 that all men have sinned because it is said of Israel we have sinned and committed iniquity Dan. 9.5 and of beleevers in many things wee offend all Iames 3.2 That all must dye because it is said of Israel wee must needs dye 2 Sam. 14.14 that all shall be raised because speaking of the Jewes it is said many c. Dan. 12.2 and that all shall come to judgement because it is said in speaking to
cause to acknowledge another And in points of practice also how many have pressed Beleevers walking after and according to particular dictates and motions suddenly given in by the Spirit of grace which is very good to deny or make carelesse of the sayings of Christ in the Gospel sutable to which he hath writ his Law or mind in the hearts of Beleevers that would move on all occasions according to those sayings if they were heeded And approve of pressed speaking and teaching the things of Christ by a sudden and immediate revelation of them by the Spirit of grace to the heart which is exceeding profitable when that is indeed vouchsafed and suiting to the Prophets of old and yet this that they may deny Beleevers according to the knowledge and faith given them by comparing searching and producing Scripture to teach the things of Christ which is also profitable and sutable to the Priests and Levits of old And so to commend singing according to a gracious inspiration which is very good when so vouchsafed yet this pressed to deny singing according to grace in the heart such Psalmes as are left upon record which is also good and many such like might be instanced and when it may be to hinder the receit and to disturbe and put by the settlement and profitting of some needfull and profitable truth If it may be that way compassed Satan himselfe by his instruments will not let to acknowledge even some main truth he could move his servant to say of the Apostle and Disciples to trouble them Acts 16.17 These men are the servants of the most high God which shew unto us the way of Salvation yea that he might hold his fold still if that would have served he would confesse Christ Thou art the Sonne of God Mark 3.11 wherefore though I deal with a gracious man yea were he as gracious as he that was reproved Mat. 16.22 23. Gal. 2.14 yet while I acknowledge with him every part of truth that he acknowledgeth I must also maintain against him that part of truth which he so plainly yet in that respect subtilly denieth XIII He professeth his uprightnesse having Gods assistance Epistle Treatise pag. 201. and that he knoweth he hath the spirit of of God which will reveale spirituall things to him yea the deep things of God p. 32. and so often professeth his sense that is far fetched and forced on a text to be the mind of God and hath Mr. Knoles to affirme and confirme the same and for his uprightnesse and having the Spirit of God I would be lought to deny but in some measure acknowledge the same both in Mr. Knoles and him and desire the increase thereof both in them and my selfe But yet whether either of us be upright or have or are lead by the Spirit of God in this businesse about testifying for or against this part of the truth by him opposed must be tryed by the agreement of our sayings with the plain word of God Isay 8 20. Gal. 1.7 8 9. for to compare our selves with our selves and among our selves it is not right neither is he that commendeth himselfe approved but whom the Lord commendeth 2 Cor. 10 12 18. And he that speaketh of himselfe secketh his own glory John 7.18 and wee are willed not to be shaken in mind or trouhled neither by word or spirit or writing as if from the Apostles 2 Thes 2 2. And a Church commended for trying them which say they are Apostles and are not and finding them lyers Rev. 2.2 and it is made a marke of false teachers to speak great swelling words 2 Pet. 2.1.18 Jude 16. intruding into things they have not seen Col. 1.18 so that this boasting of having uprightnesse or the Spirit is no good way for any man to prove or determine any thing in controversie XIV Hee forceth private strained and unsound senses upon divers places of Scripture as to instance some of them in order as they are in his Book 2 Cor. 5.15 that they which live c. Here saith he the living or life mentioned is that eternall life that is in Christ Jesus and the same sense he puts upon the life of the world mentioned John 6.33 51. now marke how weakly he proves this and how unsound and forced it is saith he he dyed for all to make them a live to recover them from death and to bring them into an estate of lifeâ— by his dying for them and rising againe this saith he is the force and meaning of the words he hath in this if he had gone no farther acknowledged some part of truth though weakly and scantily and with some questionable expressions because all must once dye and after that the judgement and the end of this life here mentioned given is that they that live should live unto Christ so shall they have comfort in that judgement and this is the scope and force of the words from verses 10 11. to 14 15. But now that the life here mentioned is the eternal life which is in Christ Jesus and only had in having him 1 John 5.11 12. as he affirmeth imposing that sense on these three places page 27. that remaines to be tryed and by Scripture will appear unsound for 1. This life appeares evidently to be that which by Christ is procured and given to all men to the world of mankind as is affirmed Acts 17.2 Psalme 35.3 with John 1.3 4 5 9. and so all the mercies and meanes for the preservation of it and for the leading men to repentance during the time of it is procured by Christ his ransome given and propitiation made John 1.4 10. Col. 1.18 In whom mercy and truth are met and righteousnesse and peace have kissed in whose resurrection truth is sprung out of the earth and by whose ascension and mediation between God and men Righteousnesse flowes down from Heaven and the Earth is filled with his goodnesse Psalme 85.10 11. And as his mercies are over all his workes so is he righteous and holy in all his waies Psalme 145 yea the preservation of the life of creatures is for the good of mankind Psalme 126 and 36. 5.6 7. and this life procured for mankind is truly called life because it with all the mercies vouchsafed to it are testimonies of his goodnesse Acts 14 17. Psalme 19.1.6 Rom. 10.18 To lead to repentance Rom. 2 4 That men might seeke him Acts 17 24.27 and also while they are joyned to the living there is hope Eccles 9.4 and this life is called life and a living in opposition to death Iob 30.23 Isay 38 18 19. And it is an estate of life because of that light that proceeds from that life in Christ to inlighten them that they might seeke him John 1.4 5.9 10. Joh 33.30 Acts 17.27 28. But had not Jesus Christ made a propitiation for men if their beings had a long time continued yet by the truth and Justice of God it must have been with
to all men according to his dâ—iâ—t eternall life where as the Scripture speaking of all comming before him gives us to understand it in a larger sense namely that as in his call many are by discoveries of his grace drawn in to beleeve on him and so given up to him and receive eternall life in and with him so they that refuse and rebell shall yet one day by his power given him by vertue of his ransome come before him bow to him and acknowledge him Lord before he passe the sentence on them Isay 45.22 23. Rom 14.9 10 11 12. Phil. 2.7 to 10.11 So that the same abuses as before may here be noted ☞ 1. 3. The word For 2 Cor. 5.14 15. Rom. 4.25 and 5.8 page 28 29. 2 Tim. 2.6 Mat. 20.28 and 26.28 Luke 22.20 page 49 50. This word For where it is Hee dyed for all or many for thee for us and the like The nature and force of the word For saith he is very significant It signifies interest propriety and carrieth the force of promise performance in it unto the persons concerned therein and this sense he explicateth thus They have an interest or propriety in the glory vertue power life and riches of his death yea he after puts in specialty right enjoyment In which expressed sense of his as set down page 28 29. and 49 50 There is much darknesse and un Scripture like language in it for the dying of Christ was but once in his own person as the publike man to fulfill truth and satisfie justice and it is over and past and he is not now so dying nor can dye any more Rom. 6.9 10. Rev. 1.18 Besides had he not risen and overcome death Wee had yet been in our sinner and our faith vain and perished when our bodyes dye 1 Cor. 15.17 18. Yea and however his death is exceeding precious and fruitfull yet the vertue of it for eternall life glory riches c. is in Scripture language ratherest put upon his resurrection ascension and glory with which the Father hath glorified him and his everliving to intersede Asts 13.33 34.38 39. â— Rom. 5.10 and 6.10 and 8.2 34. Heb. 7. and 8 and 9. and 10.1 Peter 10 â— Col. 1.19 and 2.3 9. But his death in the vertue of it as he is risen and is with the vertue of it gone into the holy of holyest and hath there presented before God the Father and offered himselfe by the eternall Spirit to God a ransome and spotlesse sacrifice and so fat down by vertue thereof a Mediatour so his death in the vertue of it is remaining and perpetuall Heb. 9.12 14.15 and thus it appears by his after writing page 189. he is to be understood and so if wee mind that which is generall and common to the nature of man his sense as first set down without his explication hath a truth in it that as he tooke that very nature that all mankind hath and dyed in that nature for sinnes and rose for just fication and ascended and gave himselfe a ransome to God for all and by vertue thereof is the man the Mediator between God and men so all in that nature have a speciality of interest a bove the fallen Angels and so have their lives by him Acts 17.27 28. John 6.33 And have mercy and life prepared in him and so a right to looke and come to him in the meanes that he useth John 1.4 5. And a promise that in so turning and comming in to him he will save them c. Porv. 1 22 23 24. Isay 45.22 whence they that deny him in his call and follow still on for lying vanities are said to deny him that bought them 2 Peter 2.1 To forsake their own mercies Jona 2.8 To loosse their own soules Mate 16 26. to bring upon themselves swift destruction 2 Peter 2.1 and so even such to perish for whom Christ dyed 1 Cor. 8.11 But when they are so given up and perish they have lost their interest that once was theirs and are blotted out of the Book of life and so though in agravation of their sinne it may be said stall Christ dyed that is did once dye for them but then For implyes not the remaining vertue of his death in blessed operations nor their present interest therein which they have now deprived themselves of Prov. 1.24 25. But now for his sonse as explicated by him it is very false for it is not in every place so significative for such an interest as he hath explicated that is manifest abundantly in the Scripture 1. Christ dyed for the Ephesians before Paul preached to them and yet before their receit of the Gospell they were without Christ being alians from the common wealth of Israel and strangers from the Covenants of promise having no hope and without God in the world Ephes 2.12 which had not been true if Christ his dying for them had in and by that act of dying only or in that saying For given them such an interest as Mr. Garner affirmeth from the word For. 2. But to proceed he speakes in a plain contradicting language to the Holy Ghost who saith expresly That Christ dyed for the ungodly Rom. 5.6 For the unjust 1 Peter 3.18 And yet saith again as expresly that none such hath any inheritance in the Kingdome of Christ and of God Ephes 5.5 and that such that is while such or as such shall not inherit c. 1 Cor. 6.9 10 Gal. 5.22 And that those who now doe inherit were some times such but then they did not inherit but now they are washed c. and so made meet to inherit 1 Cor. 6.11 Col. 1.12.13 The holy Ghost never fastening the inheritance and such interest on this word or bare act Christ dyed for them But on his gracious application of the vertue of his death and resurrection inabling them to beleeve and making on in Christ Iohn 1.12 so that heerin his sense appeares unsavory in such an affirmation of Christ dying for all But to come closer to him in that wherein hee would strive to wind himselfe out by saying though the word For implyes not such an interest That all have at present yet it implies that at one time or other they shall that are concerned in that word For shall have such an interest I shall therefore let the Scripture appeare 3. That not only the dying but the death of Christ in the vertue of it in his Resurrection Ascension Sacrifice offering with its prevailency with God and spirit and grace received as it is in him the publicke man a purgation fit to purge a Reconciliation to reconcile a medicine to heale a life to enlive food of life to afford eternall life to the eaters and all ready and prepared in him and set forth in the Gospell and men by Christ and his servants called thereto Prov. 9.1 2 3 4 5. Mat. 22.17 So it is affirmed ready yea and many called and invited on this
saith It is for men John 1.4 5.9 The world 1 John 2.2 All Nations to the ends of the Earth Act. 13.47 But speaking of the same received and enjoyed he saith it is in beleevers that are borne of God John 1.12 13. and 3 3.5-16 a people chosen out of the world and not of it John 15.19 17.14 redeemed unto God out of every kindered tongue and people and Nation Rev. 5.9 yea he contradicteth the very testimony of the Holy Ghost that saith of the life of Christ Iohn 1.4 5. It is the light of men and the light shineth in the darknesse and the darknesse comprehendeth it not But this man saith he is a light of or to none but those in whom he revealeth himselfe and draweth their hearts to beleeve on him and so also denyeth the doctrine of Jesus Christ Iohn 3.19 that saith This is the condemnation that light is come into the world and men love darknesse c. and hate the light which this man denyes saying that Christ is no such light to any that they may take offence at it or so as they may for that be condemned for if he extend any light they beleeve c. surely our Saviour said well Mat 6.23 If the light that is in a man be darknesse how great is that darknesse And so if Mr. Garners grand opinion and most esteemed truth and Mystery that must season all the rest be filled with so much darknesse no marvell his whole Treatise be full of darknesse To conclude his mysteries with his affirmation concerning Jesus Christ being a light to the Gentils c. That mystery was not in being till Christs manifestation and suffering in the flesh page 115. and 123. and 131. I confesse this is my sterially exprest and had need to have been better explicated that it might be acknowledged true for certain the word the Sonne of God that is the Christ in whom is all the mystery of God and the life in him that is the light of men was verily in being before he tooke flesh John 1.2 3 4.14 1 Iohn 1.1 2. yea and the calling of the Gentils was fully in the Scriptures of the Prophets though the flesh of Christ and his actuall and personall death resurrection and Sacrifice was not so in being till acted and then the mystery concerning Gentils cōversion not made known in his dying but by his Spirit after his resurrection and ascension Acts 2. and 9. and 10. and 11 Col. 3.5 So that in all this view of his expressed Mysteries one may clearly see that 1. he hath only pretended to and boasted of but not unvailed any mystery 2. He was out of his place and out of the way of Christ and those taught of him to pretend and assay to talke of the high and deep mysteries when he is discoursing of the beginning of the Gospell of Christ the foundation of repentance to draw in unbeleevers to beleeve and help forward the weakest Christ and his did not so Iohn 16.12 1 Cor. 3.1 2. 2 Cor. 3.12 and 4.2 Heb. 5 12. 3. He tooke a wrong course to discover mysteries in that he strove to find them in and fetch them out of such words as All men All nations the world the whole world It had been more seemly to have done it in and out of the names and titles of Christ and his members as Jesus Christ our Lord the Sonne of God the Saviour of the world Emanuel the seed c. though indeed the mysteries are unvailed in full sayings of the Gospell 4. He wrongs the sayings of the Gospell in pretending as if the sayings therein about the foundation and things absolutely needfull to salvation were darke and full of mysterious equivocation as his own sayings are that so he might have his fancies admired and received for truth as is shewn in this reply 5. In all his acknowledgements of truth he hath come short of those that have gon before him if not of those he opposeth let their writings testifie 6. In all his pretence of unvailing Mysteries he hath missed the very mentioning of them as Scripture doth which are plainly unvailed set forth therein yet in such words of wisdome and truth without any equivocation as by reason of the vaile over the heart till it turne to the Lord none clearly see prize or understand without some spirituall illumination and opperation of the Holy Ghost that turneth the heart to the Lord and giveth both the eye to see and some experimentall tast thereof 2 Cor. 3 17 18. As 1. The freenesse riches and glorious love of God in the gift of his Sonne and the reconciliation wrought and hope laid up in him this shining through the death of Christ upon the heart of a man so as when a man is found in his filth and enmity and sees nothing in himselfe to difference him from others or encourage him to looke to God yet such the power of his death when this love is commended through it and the power of the love through it commended as it puls a man from out of himselfe dependances and delights and from the worlds state way and fellowship and reconcileth him to God enabling him to beleeve on Christ renewing the heart c. Rom. 5.5 8.10.11 Tit. 3.4 5 6 7. 2. The speciall interests priviledges and gifts confirmed on these that are so brought in to beleeve even all the priviledges of the new Testament even the holy Spirit to mind them of Christ and teach them the things of him and write his mind in their heart to lead them indue them with gifts make them usefull c. Iohn 1.12 13. and 14.16 17 26. and 16.13 14 15. 1 Cor. 2.9 10.11 Heb. 9.14 15. 3. The intercourses of love the streams and springs the secret hints of light whispers the cōmunications receits between Jesus Christ the heart of the Church or souls of unfained Beleevers Cant. 1. and 2. and 3. and 4. c. In all which is some experimentall knowledge of that great mystery God manifested in the flesh c. These are mysteries plainly declared and evidenced in words of truth and wisdome that are a light yet rightly known discerned and prized of none without the spirituall teaching of the Holy Ghost 1 Cor. 2.8.15 7. He hath come short of expressing those mysteries or that mystery he hath most busied himselfe to unvail which also though with brevity is more plainly and fully exprest in the Treatise that is by him opposed as may be there seene in chap 14. page 78.81 82 83 84. And Oh that he rightly knew this mystery as it is unvailed That the Gentils should be fellow-heires and of the same body and partakers of his promise in Christ by the Gospell Ephes 3.6 By circumcission and being endeered too and made one with the Jewes by Mosaicall observances It was not doubted by any of the Beleeving Jewes in the primitive times But without this and only by the
Gospell this was not so known before now what was their inheritance what was their body how did they partake of the promise did not the Word Oracles Covenants and services of God belonging to them and to their children Rom. 3.2 9.4 5. Acts 2. was not in their body Israel and the Israel of God the outward and the inward Church had not they heires in hopefulnesse and heires indeed were not their Infants discipled I conceive They that know the Gospell and this mystery well would not deny the Infants of profest Beleevers to be received into the Church by Baptisme with water nor renounce that to take up another And it yet seems strange to me that any of the same saith and Judgement with me in the Gospell should be of the same opinion and practise with him about the Ordinance of Baptisme But I love them in the truth we beleeve not the lesse nor shall shrink from witnessing it because he hath joyned me in his Treatise with them nor like his cause the better And in answering thus farre his whole Treatise is answered and in the Treatise he opposeth particular answers may be found at large which I will not again transcribe Mr. Lambs Reasons abide and are so weakly answered that more then is said need not be said and if it were M. Den or he I question not have or wil do it only this I say by such waies and dealings with the Scripture as he hath gon in if it were received any heresie may be countenanced and all the grounds of Religion denyed and Paganisme or Athisme ushered in give but way under pretence of unvailing Mysteries to deny the sayings of the Scripture to have the sense they import for another sense by other words to be brought in and whether then may one be drawn from one to another till they come to nothing wherefore my desire is that all men would heed the Scripture and take heed to the plain sayings of the Gospell and suffer the Grace of God appearing therein to reprove and take us off from every folly and to inamour our hearts with God and Christ and so carry us to live by faith and walke in love as the Gospell of Christ directeth us And know that Gospell is true and good in all it saith and that of for or to every one Oh far be it that any called Christians should make the Gospell of Christ like the Lottaries of some men in which are more blancks then prizes and where men must cast faith at an adventure and such as declare it sound it before all not knowing to whom it belongs let it light where it will nor as Mr. Garner that sets forth such and so many workes of the Spirit in a man to know Christ dyed for for him and must call on men first to forsake vain confidence and turne from their evill waies and then beleeve and saith no propitiation no life that is perfect in Christ for men til by believing it be in them yet unsayeth again and cryeth down every thing in a man to be as a preparation to beleeve In which he doth well but his doctrine affords no ground of faith without it For upon what ground should any man forsake vain confidences and evill wayes and then beleeve if there be nothing true in Christ for him before he beleeve surely if this be not a sandy or aiery foundation no other can be so But know that the Gospell is good newes for to every one to whom it comes which could not be howglorious soever if not true and true it will be found to all so as if they doe not receive it and suffer it to save them it will be their judge and send them without excuse to condemnation whence even such as refuse the tender are willed to be sure the Kingdome of God was come nigh to them and that the word they refused to suffer to save them shal judge them Luke 10.5.11 John 12.47.50 Thes 2.10.11 12. Wherefore take heed that none of us refuse to receive the love of the truth that wee may be saved but attend and yeeld there-too and be not deceived God will not be mocked nor suffer Mr. Garners Mysterious deceits though approved by Mr. Knowles to keep or withdraw us from beleefe and obedience to the Gospell and sayings of Christ And so I for beare any farther following him in any farther discovery of his errours absurdities and slanders only intreating God for the sake of Christ to give both him and mee and every of us more light and understanding in and hearts more submitted to the truth of God in Christ that so we may rightly speake it and walke in it and so prayeth his friend and the friend of all that love the truth though differences in some circumstances be found in expressions or walkings Thomas Moore A REPLY TO Mr. T.W. HIS pretended Confutation of T. M. THAT there was value and worth enough in Christs death in regard of the sufficiency and excellency of the price for the redeeming all men in the world is granted on all hands saith Mr. T. W. He hath fairely granted if fairely expressed for it is in the expression doubtfull to my understanding in what sense hee takes Christ his Death whether simply for the Act of his Dying as some of his after-sayings page 4. l. 3. last and else-where give occasion to thinke he doth But the Holy Spirit by the Apostle tels us If Christ bee not Risen beleevers are yet in their sins faith vaine preaching the Gospell vaine c. 1 Cor. 15.14.17 or whetherhe meane it of the vertue of his blood Dying or Death as he is risen just and ascended to heaven with the vertue of that his own blood having by the eternall Spirit offered himselfe a spotlesse Sacrifice to God and obtained eternall redemption Heb. 9.12.14 And if he take in all this as I suppose he will exclude no part thereof And though all this be oft encluded in the expression of Christs Death Rom. 5.10 Blood Rev. 1.5 Ransome 1 Tim. 2.6 Sacrifice Heb. 9.26 Yet I suppose in our blessed Saviours acting of these he will allow Distinctions considerable betweene Christ his Dying and Rising and Ascending and offering himselfe a Sacrifice Though our faith without any separation looke at and receive all as one But the questions here to bee answered for right understanding his meaning are first with whom Christ had to deale with God or with men I yet suppose he will confesse that in acting all this hee had to deale with God and that he in all this gave the ransome offered the Sacrifie to God and made the Atonement with God 1 Tim. 2.5.6 Secondly For whom Christ did this and presented his Death and offered his Sacrifice to God and I am loath to conceive otherwise of him but that he will confesse it was for men though he answer in speaking of his dying or laying downe his life pag. 64. l. 30. That redemption
17. By declaration of Gospell with exhortations c. Act. 10. 13. By preaching Jesus from a portion of Scripture met with or occasionally put to one Luke 4 17-20 Act. 8.34 35. or reading the Sayings of the Gospell as written and explicating the sense of hard words Nehem 8 8. Act. 15.21 Rev. 1. or by taking a text and according to premeditation and helpe of Authors to Analis and divide and propound Questions and Answers to divide and sub-divide into parts To raise doctrines make reasons answer objections frame uses methodically which of these hee meaneth to be peculiar to an Office for wee reade of both Officers and Brethren teaching nor did T. M. ever yet though offered liberty in a publique place or will he assume to teach therein nor in any sort farther then by the call of those that have authority over the place though the Prayers the approbation c. of as ancient learned and godly Ministers as Mr. T. W. was not wanting twenty yeares since to T. M. I shall therefore forbeare farther proceeding in this folly with him and suffer him to glory in the flesh with those that reproached our Lord and Master for having been a Carpenter and his Disciples for being unlearned or having been Fishers Toule gatherers Tent-makers And thanke God that thâ—ough Mr. T. W. I may beare my part of his reproach But as for the seducement wherwith he feareth the people in the Kingdome of England should be seduced namely lest they should by the Scripture be brought to believe that Christ Dyed for them and their neighbours and so to own their sins as that for which Christ suffered and him as their Lord that in beliefe of the love of God herein they might loath themselves their sins and their own works be ashamed of sinning against so gracious a God and so love God and Christ and live to him and love others for whom Christ Dyed walk in that faith and love and acknowledge all the mercies of God to men as fruits of free grace through Christ and so to imitate him as is as at large shewn in the 24. Chap. of the Treatise and from this he scars men as if to be led to it were as the following Absolon out of Jerusalem But though many good uses are to be made of that Story yet seeing he will needs make an Arigoricall application of it So let it stand in this case Jesus Christ he is the David the Shepheard the Judge he hath declared his mind and shewne every mans condition his way and portion in his Word which is a light to which men taking heed do well Till the day do dawne and the Day star arise in their heart But if any will Absalon like blame this King because any waite so long before the day dawne in their heart and he hath not appointed another Judge to be in his place to determine more speedily how men shall understand and believe perswading the Kings sayings are doubtfull and affords not every man right And then in pretence of humility love and learning say Oh that I were judge to interpret and give the sense and I would doe every place and every man right and set him how and what to believe and do that men might not wait so long on his sayings hee that doâ—h this let him be compared to Absalon and those that follow them to such as followed him I say no more to that As for Arminianisme sure it must be some private opinion of Arminius and not the doctrine or sayings of Scripture neither was he such a one as Mr. W. cals Lay-preachers and whether he hath set downe his opinions right or not I do not know only this I know they have been more soundly confuted by others that I might name And I am sorry that they are so revived as to endanger their spreading by weak confutations But as I understand the difference is thus First According to Scripture Christ Dyed for all 2 Cor. 14.15 so I confesse Arminius He Dyed alike for all this I beleeve not T. W. He Dyed not at all intentionally for all Secondly According to Scripture Iesus extends grace in light and meanes to all to lead to repentance Ioh. 1 4 â—1 Act. 14.17 17.24.28 Rom. 2.4 Arminius He offers and extends grace alike to all T. W. He extends grace to most men not at all As for the other points they are besides this businesse though in my writing I have confessed election of persons and denyed any thing in nature to will or further conversion and the totall falling away of any by grace ingrâ—fted in and mâ—de one with Christ So as Mr. T. W. hath but slandered me to give out as if I held Arminianisme and gulled his Reader in making as if he confuted me which if hee by Scripture could have done there was my faith in those things I writ plainly set forth enough for all his book to have answered which his flâ—ing gives me occasion to think he could find no Answer rightly to confute mee and so hee devised something that is not mine to confute as if he confuted me for I professe if by Scripture hee had shewne mee any errour in my Treatise and confuted it I would have thanked him But because Mr. W. speakes of divers erronious opinions and shewes them not nor any good usefulnesse to which his negative doctrine tendeth I doe here inferre those parts of truth for which I have been much defamed 1. That Iesus Christ hath given himselfe a ransome to God for all men and by vertue thereof is the Mediator between God and men and extendeth meanes to lead to repentance ready to receive such as are prevailed with all to come in to him and this the ground of repentance faith and love as the Treatise sheweth though for this I be slâ—ndered as a Papist or an Arminian for want of better arguments 2. That mens in-comming into Christ and knowledge of peculiar inâ—erest in him is by the holy Spirits enlightning the word of grace and so discovering and witnessing Christ to their heart and commending the rich and free love of God through Christ and what he hath done for sinners so to their hearts as to enable them to beleeve Tit. 3.4.7 Rom 1.5 8 10 And this the roote of all true humility confidence love c. which are thereby proved sound else not Thus leaving Christ by his Spirit to manifest his own things Ioh. 16.12 13. 1 Cor. 2 9-12 Though by such as themselves undertake to be otherwise manifesters of mens happie condition I be reviled for this by them as a manifestation 3. That those thus brought in to beleeve in Christ have his mind writ in their hearts and so the love grace and Spirit of Christ to quicken their spirit to move and lead them according to Christ by the law of grace faith c. Though the flesh or outward man be under the law still and no farther free then
to beleeve But there was nothing 2. Cor. 5.19 to occasion such grosse conceits for it is not said of the world God hath reconciled the world to himselfe by Jesus Christ as it is said of Beleevers verse 18. nor is it said God will not impute sinne to the World as it 's said of Beleevers Rom. 4.5.8 nor is it said God is in Christ reconciling a part of the World and so is now and will be hereafter neither is it said verse 21. God made him to be sinne for us and wee were then and therein made the righteousnesse of God in him but it is said That God was in Christ reconciling c. and this set forth as the word of reconciliation put into their hearts to minister to the world But so much is said of this in the opposed Treatise and this reply that more need not be said to shew the errour of his grosse conception neither was there any thing in the Sacrifices and purifications under the Law to occasion in him this grosse conception for he that reads Moses and the after histories may see that there were many for whom sacrifices were dayly offered and the water of purification made that yet for not approaching and for not being sprinckled were unclean and to be cut off else Israel had not been so often punished Besides the Gospell being before even the first Testament and the sprincklings of the first Testament shadowes of the sprinckling of the New Testament which is the choyce of the Gospell and not to be preached to all men as the beginning of the Gospell about which wee treat is and so this abuse of so many Scriptures to such an end hath more evill in it then he was aware of nor doe I suppose here to discover it such as experimentally know what the new Testament is will discerne his imiscarrages in this so that in this all his senses forced on words he hath hitherto plainly tought men to deny Christs Lord-ship over them and him to be the author of mrecies extended to them or that there is any hope c. yea even the Saints to deny the prevailency of his intercession before or to procure spirituall application but I am weary with beholding such unsavoury shifts only it is meet to take notice of the truth and fulfilling of those words 2 Peter 2 12 13. For the word Advocation he takes away the peculiarity of it being the speciall and peculiar part of the intercession of Christ And to help it that his sayings might seem right he slanders others saying they do separate between the Propitiation and the Advocation and gives out as if they held that Christ dyed for many for whom he did not Rise Ascend and intercede pagâ— 94 95 189. And as if some might receive the propitiation and not receive the benefit of his Advocation to which I might answer with Psal 52.3.4 fit weapons for his drift But all that have read the opposed Treatise may know the falsnesse of his charges and such as read and beleeve the Scriptures may see the weaknesse of his arguings to make in our speakings the Death of Christ and the Resurrection of Christ and his offering himselfe a Sacrifice to God distinct workes and to say the one was before the other and the one is not the other and yet that in altogether he hath made the Propitiation and is become The Propitiation for the sinnes of the whole world is no deviding of these Again to say he is the Propitiation before set forth so to men and to call his making peace with God for men and his preaching peace in being set forth as a propitiation through faith in his blood c. and the worke of the Spirit inabling by faith to receive him to call these I say distinct workes is not deviding for whatsoever is in him for any that they might beleeve yet he is no Propitiation to or in any till they beleeve so the mediation of Christ with God for men by vertue of his propitiation considered as a distinct worke is no separating between them Again in this mediation to consider the difference between that which is generall for the World John 17 21 23. Isay 53.12 and that which is peculiar for Beleevers that come to God by him which is his speciall intercession Heb. 7.25 and 9.14 15. Iohn 17.9.20 and called Advocation 1 John 2.1 is no separating between Propitiation and Advocation yet is Christ no where called the Advocate of the World no the Apostle doth not say so much as if any man sinne he hath but wee Beleevers have an Advocate c. and this generall intercession of Christ for all men and his speciall intercession for Beleevers by vertue of one and the same Propitiation is a ground for such as yet beleeve not to beleeve and the medium that produceth it likewise and a ground of speciall consolation to Beleevers to whom it was a motive instruction and patterne how to pray for all men how to pray for believers But M. Garners sense and interpretation shuts the door of hope against all that already beleeve not and so takes away the ground of lawfulnesse for praying for all men for Kings Magistrates or Subjects yea for any of them till we know them first to beleeve but enough was said for this in the opposed Treatise that he hath not answered as may there be seen c 5. p. 32. c. 11. p. 58 59. c. 17 p. 1 9 112. 192. XV. To come towards an end the last of his wayes to prove his businesse that I will mention is a pretence of unvailing Mysteries the truth is I should have conceived the florrishing Title to have been put on by the Printer and not himselfe as it befell me in the Title of the Treatise he opposeth but that I find this in Master Knowles Epistle to the Churches There are divers mysteries concerning our Redemption by Jesus Christ unvailed in this small Treatise yea such by his affirmation as will make known the knowledge God hath given Mr. Garner And Mr. Garner in his Preface cals it this ensuing and unvailing Treatise and so confirmes the Title Mysterie unvailed and the truth unvailed by Robert Garner A faire pretence and confidently affirmed to make his opinion to be received but yet he must give us leave to try all things and so this pretence that wee may imbrace and hold fast that which is good and refuse the rest 1. It might be queried what he meanes by Mysteries whether that which is hidden and now by him first revealed and then he should shew himselfe rashly puft up with his fleshly mind intruding into things he hath not seen as will appear 1 Iohn 3.2 Col. 3.3 4. and 2.18 or whether he mean that which was hidden kept secret with God but now hath bin manifested in the person by the Spirit of Christ and by the Apostles made known and left upon Record and then his pretence hath a secret
denyall of Christ come in the flesh and of the truth of the Apostles record and testimony Rom. 16.25 26. or whether he meanes that which was hid and is made known but hath a depth of excellency in it beyond conception and then he usurpes the office of the Holy Ghost 1 Cor. 2.9 10-15 or whether he mean it of that which is manifested and made Known but vailed so with superstitions false glosses and interpretations that till confuted men cannot rightly see that which is This is the fairest and best sense to take him in and thus I conceive his meaning to be though herein he wrong and rob others of their due and arrogate to himselfe boasting of other mens line 2. It might be demanded which of or how many of the Mysteries he meaneth seeing he pretends unvailing mysteries for the Scripture and Spirit therein speaking of this glorious life and blessednesse in and by Christ cals it the mystery Rom. 16.25 Ephes 3.3 4 9. Col. 1 26 27. The mystery of God Col. 2 2. the mystery of Christ Col. 4.3 the mystery of the faith 1 Tim. 3.9 the mystery of godlinesse verse 16 the mystery of his will Ephes 1.9 the mystery of the Kingdome Marke 4.11 yea the wisdome of God in a mystery 1 Cor. 2.7 So that as God and Christ is on so the mystery is one which I say not to fault his saying mysteries for which some destinctions he may so say rightly Mat. 13.11 but then he should not have cryed down distinctions as divisions and separation when he must be driven to use them and shall not be so charged for the same that he cals unvailing mysteries he cals the truth unvailed and I will take him every way in the best and most favourable sense for the truth or this life and blessednesse in Christ the wisdome of God and the power of God may be considered as it was ordained and prepared of God in Christ and so was in him perfect even Propitiation wisdome righteousnesse sanctification redemption everlasting Covenant inheritance Kingdome glory union and fellowship with God and eternall life all was prepared by God in Christ 1 Peter 1.20 and in Christ Iohn 1.4 and was with the Father 1 Iohn 1.1 2. though hid with God in Christ Col. 3.3 And also it may be considered according to the severall degrees of Gods revealing and giving and so Jesus Christ the Propitiation in the very nature of man to take away sinne abollish death and overthrow the works of the Devill that so such as beleeve in him might have life and the reside reserved to judgement this was made known in some measure and beleeved also before any difference was between Jew and Gentile 1 Iohn 3.5 6. Gal 3.15 Jude 14 15. Heb. 11 2 7. So that I conceive he means not this discovery Again God made known to Abraham the Gospell more fully and so made known to him that Christ should come of him That in him all Nations should be blessed revealed to him the everlasting Covenant for the spirituall seed the multiplicity union and stability of the same seed and their certainty of enjoying the inheritance and made that Covenant fore confirmed in Christ with Abraham for all the spirituall seed which yet made no difference between Jewes and Gentils according to the flâ—sh Gen. 12.3 and 15.5.6 and 17 1-8 and 22.17 Gal. 3.8 9.16.29 but I will not charge it on him to mean it of this discovery Again that Christ should suffer and overcome and see his seed and of the travell of his soule and that he should be Gods salvation and shew forth judgement to the Gentils and that God would make a new Testamentall Covenant with his People and power out his Spirit on all flesh was still further revealed to and by the Prophet Isay 53. and 42.19 6. and 49 6 Jer. 31. Joel 2. Neither did this put the difference between Jewes and Gentils Yet I cannot though faine I would cleare him from intending it of this discovery but I passe it yet as also the shewing what made the difference and wherein it was of that in fit place But all this while the manner of his comming his Birth exile returne manner of life his preaching with the manner of all his sufferings death buriall and resurrection ascension offering Sacrifice exaltation and filling in our nature with the powring out of the Spirit and giving the precious promises of the new Testament though fore mentioned by the Prophets yet not clearly but as a thing still hid with God till it come to be fulfilled and acted by Iesus Christ our Lord the Holy Ghost also bearing witnesse of him and then and so was this mystery unvailed Luke 24 44-48 Rom. 1.15 and 16.25 26. 2 Tim 1.10 And the Apostles were the first makers known and revealers of this Mystery so as Mr. Garner cannot be the unvailer in this sense nor I suppose doth he so mean though of these things I suppose he meanes for to them one head of his mysteries are belonging And yet further the Gentils free participation of the benefit of al these things by the Gospel and so to be fellow heirs and of the same body and to have fellowship in all the priviledges of Israel without Circumcision or any outward observance to under them to the Iewes and to make them of the Iewish Nation this also was not clear but a hidden thing till performed by Christ and testified by his Spirit and so it was manifest to the Apostles who were the first declarers and makers of it known Acts 10. and 11. Col. 1.23.26 27. Ephes 3 4 5 6 7. And in this sense Master Garner cannot be the unvailer nor I beleeve will say he is though of this and the former he must needs be understood to mean by Mysteries For the glory of Beleevers estate at the appearing of Christ though revealed that it shall be and they shall be like Christ yet how glorious and what that same is is a thing that is still hid in God with Christ and will not be manifested till he doe come again in glory and appear visibly Col. 3 3 4. 1 Iohn 3.2 and I hope M. Garner would have none to count him the unvailer of this 3. It might be questioned what he means by Vnvailing whether the manifestation and evidencing that it might appreare but that is the worke of God in and by Christ effecting and the Spirits testifying as is shown or the first making known publishing and witnessing but this was the businesse of the Apostles and first witnesses who had the whole Gospell immediatly from Christ his own person as is shown or whether he mean only the blowing away of some mists and removing some darknesse cast on by mens deceits interpretations and glosses this is the most charitable sense to understand him in though in this sense he is not an unvailer but a gleaner out of those that have done it yet in this sense I understand him