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A64773 The devil the greatest sinner in the world, or, A reply to Thomas Powel, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, yet affirms, Jesus Christ was the greatest sinner in the world by John Vaughton ... Vaughton, John, 1644-1712. 1676 (1676) Wing V158; ESTC R1102 20,220 28

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THE DEVIL THE Greatest Sinner IN THE WORLD Or A REPLY to THOMAS POWEL who calls himself A Minister of the Gospel yet Affirms JESVS CHRIST was the Greatest Sinner in the VVorld By JOHN VAUGHTON The Lord frustrateth the Token of the Lyars c. Isaiah 44.24 25. He that justifieth the Wicked and he that condemneth the Just even they both are Abomination to the Lord Prov. 17.15 Printed in the Year 1676. AN Epistle to Thomas Powell T. P. here follows a Copy of the Words thou gave under thy Hand the 29th of the 2d Moneth 1676. to J. V. Jesus Christ was the greatest Sinner in the World I Thomas Powel Minister of the Gospel affirms SInce thy giving forth of the fore-mentioned Words thou hast publish'd in print a Paper in Vindication of the aforesaid Word● though thou wast in Love several times desired to condemn them before the printing of the said Paper so no more to have been made of them but thou refusing to do it put forth thy printed Paper as aforesaid to which Paper thou hast received an Answer entituled A Vindication of Jesus Christ c. to which thou hast replyed still vindicating thy former Words viz. That Jesus Christ was the greatest Sinner in the World In thy printed Papers thou say'st by Imputation but thou said'st not so in thy first Paper In thy Epistle to thy Book entituled Mr Powell 's Answer c. thou say'st Christ was the greatest of Sinners I query of thee whether thou believest the Devil was not and is not the greatest of Sinners he being the Original and first Cause of it by whom it was brought into the World and by whom it 's continued and increased in it I hope thou wilt not deny but that the Devil is the greatest of Sinners and dost thou think that the Devil must have no Sin imputed to him who is the greatest Sinner dost thou think he must bear no Punishment for the Sin of Mankind seeing he is the Original and first Cause of it all Consider of this thou and the Divines of thy Way and answer in Plainness according to plain Scripture which you profess to be your Rule remember what God hath said unto the Serpent or Devil the greatest of Sinners Because thou hast done this thou art cursed above all Cattel and above every Beast of the Field c. Here thou may'st see what Punishment God justly brought upon him for leading Man and Woman into Sin here thou may'st see how God both imputeth Sin to him and punisheth him for it and thou may'st consider Christ's Words to the Goats on the left Hand Mat. 25.41 Go ye cursed into everlasting Fire prepared for the Devil and his Angels here again thou may'st see God imputes Sin to the Devil the greatest of Sinners the Original of all Sin and not only to him but also to his Disciples and doth and will punish them both for it John 3. 8. He that committeth Sin is of the Devil for the Devil sinneth from the Beginning for this Purpose the Son of God was manifested that he might destroy the Works of the Devil which is Sin Iohn doth not say he came to take the Guilt of Sin upon him which is the Devil's Work but saith he was manifest to take away our Sins and in him is no Sin and Iohn further saith In this the Children of God are manifest the Children of the Devil whosoever doth not Righteousness is not of God neither he that loveth not his Brother 1 Joh. 3.10 T.P. I would have thee to consider whether thou hast not charged that upon Christ Jesus the immaculate Lamb of God which is justly and properly to be charged upon the Devil to wit that he was the greatest Sinner in the World I could rejoyce to know thee to come out of that Spiritual Blindness which thou art fallen into through the Delusions of that Evil One who certainly is the greatest of Sinners whatever thou or any other may think or say to the contrary And in Order to convince thee of the Falseness of thy Charge against Christ to wit That he was the greatest sinner in the World I ask thee to shew by plain Scripture if thou canst how Christ can be a Sinner or the greatest Sinner in the World and not sin Sin is the Transgression of the Law of God Christ did not transgress the Law but fulfilled it that which renders Man a Sinner in God's Sight is the transgressing of his holy Law which the Serpent did when he tempted the Woman to eat of the Tree which God commanded she should not eat of he told her a Lye to encourage her to transgress God's Law and she and the Man did transgress the Law of God in eating that which God had forbidden and thus they were lead into Sin by him who is the greatest of Sinners for he became a Sinner by transgressing the Law of God and he being the first Sinner and the Original and first Cause of it in all Mankind doth justly merit the Name of a Sinner and not only so but the greatest of Sinners by Action and Imputation and to him belongs the greatest Punishment and thus the Man and Woman came properly and justly to merit or deserve the Name of Sinners by transgressing the Law of God to have it imputed unto them or charged upon them and to be judged condemned or punished for it in their impenitent and unbelieving State T. P. take notice that though we deny and oppose thy Charge against Christ as unscriptural and unsound whe sai'st He waes the greatest Sinner in the World And in thy Epistle thou sai'st that the Word He was made Sin for us many understand a Sacrifice for Sin c. which thou sai'st thou acknowledges to be a Godly Sense the Godly Sense is the true and right Sense which Sense we own and hadst thou kept to this Godly Sense thou had'st not been opposed by us but thou giving another Sense contrary to this that is an Ungodly one and therefore we oppose it yet we own that holy man Christ Jesus to be that one Offering who hath perfected forever them who are sanctified I say we dearly own him who offered up himself through the Eternal Spirit as a Lamb without Spot and Blemish he is the Propitiation for our Sins and not for ours only but for the Sins of the whole World we have received Power from God the Father to preach Forgiveness of Sins that are past in the Name of Christ Jesus through the Forbearance of God John Baptist saith Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the Sins of the World be did not say behold the greatest Sinner in the World neither did he say he was g●ilty of the Sins he took away And so T. P. and thy Brethren keep to Scripture Language which is a Form of found Words which Words were given forth by the holy men as they were moved by the holy Spirit of God which Spirit gave
of Isaac to save him from being executed by them for after they perceived his Money they consulted and agreed to save his Life but it may be supposed if this Story of his be true that he had taken so much of the Vintner's sweet Wine that he was not in his Right Senses for he also said They put him into a Coach and set him down at the Stocks Market London and that he knows not the Persons Tavern nor Street where this thing was done To his Reader I take notice of these Passages where he saith viz. The Father accounted Christ a Sinner and that the Father punished his Son or inflicted Punishment upon his Son Sin set the Father against Christ that Christ's Sufferings are penal God the Father punishing his Son and that Christ suffered justly For these Sayings I desire thee or any of thy Divines to give me plain Scripture for seeing you call it your Rule and give us no more your Corrupt Meanings upon it neither your Feigned Humble Conceiving nor Vain Imagination but let it be plain Scripture it self Here follows some of T. P's brief seasonable soul-affectionate and good Advice as he calls it unto the Principal Leaders of the Quakers c. O profligate flagitious Wretches that must imbrue your Hands in the Blood of Souls that you cannot go to Hell alone but you must have Company with you O ye Promulgaters of Errors Leaders of a great many to Hell c. This with much more Stuff that is fly-blown with Sin as he saith his Holy Duties are who also sayes Our Books have Croaking Toads and Creaking Vipers that swarms therein c. Which Expressions of his savour more of Railing Rabshekah's spirit then of the Meek Spirit of Jesus Thomas Powell thou in thy Postscript having desired us to clear our selves from those notorious Lyes and Forgeries that thou hast charged us with I have done it and do return them upon thee and thy Witness with the rest of thy Confederates to whom they do belong And T. P. as to the Promise that Thomas Hicks hath made thee it will be unsafe for thee to give Credit to it or to conside in it for that which he hath promised thee is a Work too ponderous for him to wit to prove the Quakers No Christians and their Religion a Cheat for Gog and all his great Army cannot do it Moreover Thomas Hicks of all men should cease boasting of what Help he will minister to thee or others seeing he hath undertaken more Work of his own already then himself or any other that he has brought for his Assistance could perform the Task he hath already undertaken lieth still at kis Door JOHN VAUGHTON Postscript CHrist Jesus was the Father's free Gift as it is said God so loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son a Light into the World that whosoever bolieveth in him should not perish but have Everlasting Life so that Christ Jesus was not bound or forced for saith he I lay down my Life freely so that it was his free Love and will the Professors now after all their seeming pretended Love to him brand him with being guilty of their Sins Well we do say he is not guilty of any man's Sin but hath all power in Heaven and Earth-committed unto him and can pardon Sin without being guilty of it and is the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sins of the World and the Father hath committed this Power unto him and he doth not charge his Son with the guilt of the World's Sins therefore T. P. and the rest of the Divines of thy Way repent of your Evil and of all your hard Speeches which you have uttered against the Spotless Lamb of God and those that follow him in the Regeneration and content not your selves in saying your Sins are imputed Christ's and his Righteousness imputed yours whilest you are in the Act of Sin and Rebelling against his Spirit for this Covering or vain talking will be too short in the Day of the Lord that hastens to be revealed against all Unrighteousness of Men who hold the Truth in Unrighteousness or make a Profession of Christ the Truth and live still in the Unrighteousness and in the Sin and in Rebellion against God's Light and Spirit which makes Sin manifest and reproves for it in the very Heart where Sin hath been and is committed and this Light many of you have been calling with many opprobrious Names and Terms for which you must repent or else you cannot lay down your Heads in Peace that is the Word of Truth unto you all whether you will hear or forbear John Vaught●on Thomas Firth's Testimony to the Truth of so much of the Discourse that past between Thomas Powell and John Vaughton as was printed in J. V's Book Entituled A Vindication of Christ Jesus c. WHereas Thomas Powel relates That the Discourse in the aforesaid Book was Feigned or Fictious save a Passage or two I who was an Eye and Ear-Witness do affirm it to be True as it is there related and I have Unity with the publishing of it Thomas Firth THE END
them a right Knowledge of God and Christ and led them to speak right things of God and of Christ which Spirit thou and thy Brethren being Strangers to speak wrong things of God and of Christ and of the Scriptures also for which in Love to God Christ Scriptures and your immortal Souls we do justly blame you Christ saith I am the Light of the World he that followeth me shall not walk in Darkness or Ignorance but he shallhave the Light of Life Joh. 8.12 he also saith Believe in the Light that ye may be the Children of the Light Joh. 12.36 We would have you to take Christ's Counsel believe in the Light and that will give you the Knoledge of God Christ and the Scriptures will lead you to speak right things of God and Christ and to live a God-like and a Christ like Life and then you and we shall not differ T. P. I have yet mere to say unto thee in Way of just Rebuke for thy unscriptural and ungodlike Words which thou hast given forth in thy Epistle to the afore-said Book which take as followeth thou having affirmed that Jesus Christ was the greatest Sinner in the World by Imputation c. thou say'st all that I shall urge in the defence of this great Truth is this either Christ died justly or unjustly I mean God the Father in punishing his Son acted therein either justly or unjustly unjustly who dares to assert justly who dares to deny c T. P. in these Words laid down by thee thou chargest God with punishing his Son but how wilt thou prove it If thou continues of this mind I would have thee offer us some proof for what thou say'st if thou canst which is either Scriptural or Reasonable By God's punishing his Son I can understand no other by thy Words here inserted or any elsewhere in thy Book then his being spit upon crowned with Thorns call●d Beelzebub the Prince of Devils betrayed murdered and hanged on a Tree If thou say'st this was the Punishment wherewith God punished him then I ask thee who were the Instruments God made use of in inflicting these punishments upon him Christ said He that dippeth his Hand with me in the Dish the same shall betray me and after Judas had taken the Sop Satan entred into him and he went to the malicious High-Priests and betrayed his Master and they sent a Band with Swords and Staves to take him and as Steven said those bloody High-Priests Judas and the rest of their Company were the Betrayers and Murderers of him and they laid their wi●ked Hands upon him and crucified the Lord of Life Acts 7.25 Him being delivered by the Determinate Counsel Fore-Knowledge of God ye have taken and by wicked Hand have crucified and slain Acts 2.25 Now if thou charge these before-mentioned Cruelties exercised or inflicted upon him as God's punishing his Son will not this prove thee a Ranter in Principle at least for dost thou not hereby justifie the Devil and all his bloody Train to be God's Servants and Doers of God's Wiill herein for I have heard that some of the rude Ranters have said that the Devil is God's good Servant what dost thou say less for if all these Cruelties be esteemed PRINCIPALLY God's Act it 's easie to prove from Scripture that the Devil and wicked Men did inflict those Cruelties upon him Christ told that bloody Generation They were of their Father the Devil and the Lusts or Works of their Father they would do he was a Lyar and a M●derer from the Beginning here thou may'st see that Christ told this bloody Crew That the Lusts or Works of their Father they would do which Lusts or Works was Lying and Murder Christ did not tell them that their lying and murdering of him were the Works of God or his punishing of his Son but that they were of their Father the Devil Thou say'st in the same Page Christ may thank Sin for all his Sufferings c. If so then he might thank the Devil who is the Author of it but he i● not worthy of Thanks this is some of thy dark divining There is another Thing I am not willing to omit that is in the same page thou sayest That Sin set the Father against Christ It may be thou may●st call this a Thesis but it is a dark one it may be thou mayest say It 's D●v●●try and ●●e Quakers are a Silly Ignorant People and do not understand it but come Tho. Powel thou sayest Scripturs is thy Ru●●● shew us plain Scripture for it if thou can'st for t●● Quakers love Scripture very well and God hath given them the Knowledge of them and Comfort of them by the Holy Spirit by which the holy Men were moved to give them forth Glory to his holy Name for the same and for all his Blessings and Mercies Now Christ saith The Father hath not loft me alone for I do alwayes those things that please him John 28.29 and the Father saith of the Son This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased hear ye him 2 Pet. 1.17 T. P. I desire thou mayest believe the Father and the Son's Testimony before-mentioned and Repent of thy dark and unscriptural Affirmation T. P. There is one more dark unscriptural Saying of thine which I must rebuke thee for thou sayest in the same page of thy Epistle the words are viz. Christ was accounted a Sinner by Wicked Men but that is not all he was accounted also a Sinner by his Father Answ In this Position or Affirmation thou holdest forth that God and Wicked Men are of one Mind which never was or can be Wicked Men say He cast out Devils by Beelzebub and said Say we not well thou art a Samaritan and hast a Devil And Wicked Men told the Blind Man whose Eyes Christ opened Christ was a Sinner and thou sayest God accounted him also a Sinner or else sayest thou he would not have dealt so severely with him as he did T. P. This is written in Love and Rebuke to thee and remember that it s written The Rebukes of a Friend are better then the Kisses of an Enemy John Feild THE DEVIL THE Greatest Sinner IN THE WORLD THat Thomas Powel should call his Pamphlet An Answer to John Vaughton and John Field their Fictious Pamphlet as he doth falsly stile it in his Title-page I might indeed very much admire but that I do find him grown to a very great height of Confidence or Impudence that he hath said That he is satisfied that neither Christians nor his Aequaintance will give Credit to any thing that the Quakers should say of him pag. 1. A notorious Untruth indeed for many both Christians and his Acquaintance do believe That what the Quakers have said of him is true and he himself is made to confess to much of it as hereafter I shall make appear and notwithstanding he doth find fault with that Account that I have given of that