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A97110 A vvhisper in the eare of Mr. Thomas Edwards minister. By VVilliam VValwyn marchant. Occasioned by his mentioning of him reproachfully, in his late pernitious booke, justly entituled the Gangræna. Walwyn, William, 1600-1681. 1646 (1646) Wing W694; Thomason E328_2; ESTC R200666 12,778 17

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our minister and parish James Garlick-hill London being quite out of order I with others moved for reformation in doing whereof how I laboured to have preserved the continuance and well being of our minister himself and the ancient that opposed out endeavours I presume will testifie but if they should not there is enow that will but he was a man that trusted to policy which in the end failed him our next indeavours were for the whole ward wherein after much labour we so prevailed that the well affected carryed the choice of Alderman and common-councell men and all other officers in the Ward my next publike businesse was with many others in a remonstrance to the Common Councell to move the Parliament to confirm certain infallible maximes of free Government wherein the power of Parliament was plainly distinguished from the Kings Office so plainly that had it taken effect few men after due consideration thereof would through error of iudgement have taken part against the Parliament or have befriended arbitrary power as too too many did for want of light but it was stifled in the birth I was also interressed in all the proceedings of Salters hall whence much good issued to the whole City and Kingdom where I beleeve it will be testified by all I was never heard or observed to propose or second a bad motion nor far short of any in prosecution of any thing that was good and when the common enemy was at the highest and the Parliaments forces at the lowest I with many others petitioned the Parliament for the generall raising and arming of all the well affected in the Kingdom and though that also took not its proper effect and came not to perfection yet it mated the common enemy and set all wheels at work at home was the spring of more powerfull motions and good successes God so ordering things that no man moves for good but good in one kind or other comes thereof and in all that I have at any time done I ever associated my self with persons of known good affections to Parliament and Common-wealth that it is my extream wonder that any well-affected person should affirm me to be a man dangerous I have never shunned the light all that I have had a hand in hath come to the publick view and touch and truly there hath not been a iust thing promoted or endeavoured to be promoted that ever I was absent from if I had a call thereunto and whereas I have addicted my selfe to know and understand all the severall doctrines and waies of worship that are extant and for that end have taken liberty to hear and to observe all it is that I might be able to iudge rightly of their differences to vindicate them when they are wronged and to advise them for their good in doing whereof I have gained much good there being not any how light esteeme soever you make of them but have somthing worthy the observation and this I must testily for all sorts of them they are a people the most ready to render love for love that ever I met withall and not apt to render evil for evil they are all universally faithfull to the Parliament friends to all just government and enemies to all unjust but yet there is not any thing I have observed that hath prevailed with me to disclaim the publike ministry or the parochial congregations I have yet some hopes to see them reduced into such a condition as that all things thereunto belonging may without difficulty be justified but though I am not in fellowship with those good people you call sectaries yet I joyn heart and hand with them in any thing that I judge to be right and tending to the publike good and love them as heartily as those that are one with me in iudgement sometimes I contest with them somewhat vehemently in arguing but it is as I conceive for truth and for their good and they take it so and bear with me as I with them and we meet and part in love as becometh Christians nor doth this hinder but that when any difference befalleth betweene them and the publick ministers but that I iudge as clearly in such cases as if I had no difference with them for I esteem it a high part of true religion to promote common iustice and not to be a respecter of persons in iudgement wherein the Scripture is my rule and that being on their side I should take part with them therein against my father minister or the dearest friend I have in the world and from hence it is that when the question is about liberty of Conscience the Scripture tells me every one ought to be fully perswaded in his own mind and that whatsoever is not of faith is sin it tells me I must doe as I would be done unto I would not be enforced to the Parish Congregations then I must not force them to them or from their owne God onely perswades the heart compulsion and enforcement may make a confused masse of dissembling hypocrites not a Congregation of beleevers that seeing our Saviour reproached not those that denyed the resurrection angels and spirits nay Joh. 12.47.48 c. he saith plainly and that by authority from heaven v 49. He that refuseth me and receiveth not my words hath one that iudgeth him the word that I have spoken it shall iudge him in the last day Also in Luke the 9.54.55.56 Insomuch as I see no more warrant now to reproach or punish any man for Religion but rather that we are all bound in peace and love to reclaime our brother from what wee iudge an error in his way wherein the best and most knowing amongst men in our daies may be mistaken being all liable to take truth for error and error for truth and therefore there is no cause of strife or compulsion except for mastery then which as I conceive nothing is more unchristian neverthelesse I may see a necessary use of a publick ministry and parish Congregations and it is my work to perswade others therein and not to speak reproachfully thereof as they would not have their way reproached but then when the question is concerning a maintenance for these publick ministers and that any shall insist for tythes or an enforced maintenance truly in this case the Scripture manifesting to my understanding tythes to be ceremoniall and Jewish and so to cease at the comming of Christ and that to enforce or enioyn a maintenance though under any other notion is as I apprehend contrary to the rule and practice of the Apostles how is it possible but I must adhere to them therein but then that our publick ministers should have no maintenance therein I wholy dissent and as it hath been my endeavour to assist the one party to avoid the molestation of their concsciences in tythes all enforced contributions so have I often proposed a way for the maintenance of the publick ministers more certain more quiet for