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A88838 An untaught teacher witnessed against. Or, The old bottles mouth opened, it's wine poured forth, drunk of drunkards, denyed of them who have tasted of the new. That is to say, the unsound, unseasoned, unsavory doctrines, and opinions of Matthew Caffyn, Baptist-teacher laid open, who in the county of Sussex, is cryed up to be as their battle axe, and weapon of warre, who as Jannes and Jambres rides aloft, and bestirs himself with the magick rod of his lies, slanders, aspersions, and unsound doctrines, labours to strengthen the hands of carnal professors, and to keep the beloved of God in bondage: ... Which doctrines, and unsavory speeches were received from his own mouth, part of them at a meeting of the people called Quakers, at Crowley in Sussex, others thereof at his own house neere South-water, before me and John Slee, upon the fifth day of the seventh moneth, 1655 ... / Tho: Lawson. John Slee. Lawson, Thomas, 1630-1691.; Slee, John. 1655 (1655) Wing L729; Thomason E854_12; ESTC R202688 20,795 30

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AN UNTAUGHT TEACHER Witnessed against OR The old Bottles mouth opened It 's Wine poured forth drunk of Drunkards denyed of them who have tasted of the new That is to say the unsound unseasoned unsavory Doctrines and opinions of Matthew Caffyn Baptist-Teacher laid open who in the County of Sussex is cryed up to be as their Battle Axe and Weapon of Warre who as Jannes and Jambres rides aloft and bestirs himself with the Magick Rod of his lies slanders aspersions and unsound Doctrines labours to strengthen the hands of carnal professors and to keep the beloved of God in bondage for whose redemption the Lord is risen and is going forth in majesty and great glory and will triumph over all who have triumphed Which Doctrines and unsavory speeches were received from his own mouth part of them at a meeting of the people called Quakers at Crowley in Sussex others thereof at his own house neere South-water before me and John Slee upon the fifth day of the seventh moneth 1655. No Weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn this is the Heritage of the Servants of the Lord and their righteousness is of me saith the Lord Isa 54.17 Tho Lawson John Slee LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. AN Vntaught toungless Teacher laid open The unsound Doctrines of M. C. B. T. witnessed against 1. HE said severall times to us that he knew not what the tongue of the learned was being asked what it was I answer here out of thy own mouth thy shame and nakedness is laid open and to every wise man whose eye is in his head art thou made manifest to be the lying mouth which Jeremiah who had the tongue of the learned witnessed against who bore witness from the mouth of the Lord against such as run and were not sent of the Lord so did not profit the people at all Jer. 23.32 here thou art thy own mouth hath declared it who is gone forth calles the selfe a teacher yet confesses thou knowes not what thy tongue of the learned is Isay had the tongue of the learned given him to minister a word in season to the weary Isay 50.4 he did not minister till he had received the tongue of the learned for thereby he knew what to minister as he saith but thou takes upon thee to minister before thou receive the tongue of the learned or know what it is never did any of the holy men of God minister till they received the tongue of the learned but thou in thy own will art run unsent confessing thou knowes not what it is stop thy mouth thou lyer thou evil Beast who runs up and down pushing at the Ministers of the everlasting Gospel with thy horns such Paul called evill Beasts lyars and slow bellies Titus 1.10 11. who run and were not sent as thou dost who yet knowes not what the tongue of the learned is who subverts whole houses all that flock after thee taking upon thee to teach others and art untaught thy self only hast treasured up the letter in thy corrupt minde and ministers it forth to others as thou imagines of it so steals the word from others as the false Prophets did which Jeremiah cryed against Jer. 23.30 and the Lord is against thee as he was against them who stole words one from another as thou hast stollen the words of the Prophets Christ and his Apostles and treasures them up in thy corrupt minde but knowes not the tongue of the learned as thy fore-fathers did not who stole the word from their Neighbours so be ashamed of thy Ministry 2. He said he ministted from the word of truth otherwise called the Scripture through the assistance of the spirit of God I answer to say that the word of truth is called the Sctipture or that the Scripture is called the word of truth that is a lie search the Scripture and therein shew it me where the Scripture is called the word of truth thy ignorance of the word of truth here appeares as of the tongue of the learned 2 Tim. 2.15 Tymothy rightly divided the word of truth but he came not by the will of man and he was a Minister of the spirit and not of the letter and James he said Of his own will begat he us by the word of truth James 1.18 is this the Scripture is it the Scripture by which God works reforms changes sanctifies and begets again or is it not the incorruptible seed which is the word of God the word of truth which lives and endures for ever 1 Pet. 1.23 24 25. doth the Scripture live doth it endure for ever is it the incorruptible seed doth the Father work and beget a new by it or by his Son who is the way the truth and the life now thou may say we deny the Scripture because we bow not to thy fancies opinions but the Scripture we own to be a true declaration Luke 1.1 testifying of him who from the womb of love is given to bruise the Serpents head in whom and by whom God changes reforms converts sanctifies justifies and begets anew John 5.39 40. this is the word of truth of it the Scripture testifies 3. And he said he ministered from the Scripture through the assistance of the spirit of God I answer the blind may lead the blind and deceive the blind but the seeing deny all blind guides such as thou art who saith thou ministers from the letter here thou art shut out from all the holy men of God who were Ministers of the spirit and not of the letter as Paul was 2 Cor. 3.6 but thou art a Minister of the letter and not of the spirit as thou makes it appear who confesses thou knowes not what the tongue of the learned is and holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1.21 4. And thou tells of the assistance of the spirit I answer for shame give over and lay aside thy covers and pretences what tell of the spirit could not tell me what the Cross of Christ is what art thou so impudent and shameless as to tell of the assistance of the spirit and yet acknowledges thou knows not what is the tongue of the learned let the wise in heart judge and the least in the knowledge of God consider if thou be not in confusion one of Babels builders which God is comming to throw down and thy pretence of the spirit will not hide thee who ministers the letter in the dead minde and keeps in death such as follow thee and search the Scripture and own thy example the false Prophets in the dayes of Jeremiah who had not the tongue of the learned had nothing from the mouth of the Lord but got the words of the true Prophets and did pretend the spirit and did use their tongues saying the Lord saith when as
for he himselfe saith that he was made free from the law of sin and death before he tell of the righteousness of the law being fulfilled in him Rom. 8.1.2.3.4 and saith Paul I thorough the law which law hath power over a man so long as he lives and dead to the Law that I might live unto God Gal. 2.19 but neither Law nor Gospel thou knows who stumbles at seeing God and cryes out blasphemy when as Moses who received the perfect Law from God which is according to that of God in every ones conscience he saw God and till Moses death reigns there thou art And in as much as thou said that Paul said the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled in him and yet at the same time he was carnall sold under sin and found a Law in his Members warring against the Law of his minde leading him captive into sin and was a wretched man crying out who should deliver him from the body of death Rom. 7. I answer here another lie is found in thy mouth for he did not say the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled in him till the Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made him free from the Law of sin and death Rom. 8.1.2 3 4 and he could not both be carnal led captive and have the body of death standing in him and yet be free from the body of sin and death all at one time this can in no wise be as thou would perswade people but whereas he speaks of himself being carnal sold under sin and led captive and the body of death not destroyed Rom. 7. here he declares unto them how it was with him in the time of his warfare Rom. 7.5 when we were in the flesh saith he then it was so and so then carnal but the Law spiritual then sold under sin then led captive then a wretched man then not delivered from the body of sin in the time of the Law it being weak through the flesh now here he declares to them what he had passed through and how it had been with him but at that time he saith he was delivered from the Law Rom. 7.6 so likewise from sin the Law being added because of transgressions and he at that time vvhen he vvrote unto the Romans an Epistle vvhich afterwards vvas turned into Chapter and verse by Tubal-Cain the cunning Artificer and Craft-man for the benefit of the Clergy vvhen this Epistle he vvrote he vvitnessed the power of God unto salvation Rom. 1.6 and the invvard Jew and circumcision inwardly Rom. 2.28 29. and that he vvas justified and had peace vvith God Rom. 5.1 and that the old man vvas crucified Rom. 6.6 and that they vvere not under the Lavv but under grace vvhich Lavv is because of transgressions Rom. 6.15 and that they vvere dead to the Lavv by the body of Christ Rom. 7.4 and none is dead to the Lavv but vvho is dead to sin his body sets none free from the Lavv but vvhom it sets free from sin and he saith he and they vvere delivered from the Lavv Rom. 7.6 so from sin because of vvhich the Lavv is added and he saith he vvas set free from sin and the righteousness of the Lavv vvas fulfilled in him Rom. 8.1.2 3 4. novv that he could vvitness these glorious conditions and grovvth in Christ Jesus and yet be carnal and fold under sin and led captive and groane under the body of death that I deny but it is the Doctrine of Matthew Caffyn vvho is a Baptist-Teacher so I leave it vvith him or any that ovvn him the same to prove and in Rom. 7.25 Paul said so then implying a condition and disposition which he had passed through then it was so and so and in the next verse he saith But now Rom. 8.1 therein he declares his present condition which was that he was set free from the Law of sin and death and the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled in him Rom. 8.1.2 3 4. Rom. 7.25 So then Who is not blind may see Rom. 8.1.2 But now Who hath an eare may heare To the 7th Chapter of Pauls Epistle to the Romans do all unsavory Professors Priests and people fly and unto it run as unto a Bulwark for a cover to continue in sin and corr●ption while they remain upon earth which will stand them in no stead so two Propositions shall I lay down and if the Devil in any profession or Matthew Caffyn be offended at what I have spoken concerning that Chapter which all Professions take hold on for a shelter for their iniquity let them appear in writing that truth may come to light and lies be searched out and not back-bite grumble and grudge and run up and down slandering and railing and crying out that we hold forth damnable Doctrines and Heresies But do not so that is not honest that is the nature of Night-birds and Screech-owls who scratch in the dark so Matthew Caffyn prove thy Doctrines else throw down thy Crowns and own that in thy Conscience which shews thee thy enmity against the truth the Lord is taking unto himself him great power even the Almighty who was is and is to come to reign over all and the Nations are angry and combine together against the Lord and against his anointed yet upon the holy hill of Sion will hee his Sonset the hill of God is as the hill of Bashan an high hill this is the hill in which God delights to dwell yea in it he will dwell for ever and all hills shall tremble before it even before his hill who is setting the solitary in families and bringing out those which are bound in Chains he is beating the wicked one out of all his Bulwarks and fenced walls and high Towers and in Israel doth God appoint for Walls and Bulwarks even salvation so make not lies your refuge and plead not for sin which is a wall of separation between God and man 1. That Paul was not carnall and sold under sin nor led captive into sin nor the body of death undelivered from which is made mention of Rom. 7. when he said the Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made him free from the Law of sin and death Rom. 8.1 2 3 4. That at that time when Paul wrote to the Romans and spoke of being carnal and sold under sin c. Rom. 7. that he spoke not of his present condition but how it had been with him formerly in the time of his warfare which was then accomplished and the body of death put off and he set free from sin Rom. 8.1.2 3 4. 31. Matthew Caffyn said I spoke errour when I said no man did further witness the Scripture fulfilled in him than he was grown up in that spirit which gave it forth the same also I now say and prove it to be errour if thou can but the wise in heart will not take thy words for a Gospel-proof who hast uttered forth so many lies and did give me these words under thy own hand-writing That the Scripture doth so farre reveal God and Christ to a Creature as that he walking up to its Revelation to his lives end with a single heart shall be eternally saved I say thy Ministry teaches not singlenesse in the one spirit but thou would have all shroud themselves in thy Form to their lives end and in the deceit of the world and then tells them of being saved now he to whom the true Ministry was committed said 2 Tim. 1.9 they were saved Tit. 3.5 Thou would have people wrapt up in thy Form all their lives that thou among them may have preheminence and tells them of salvation afterward when as no unclean thing must enter into the Kingdom as the Tree falls so it lies This have I written as touching particulars received from M. Caffyn part in writing and part from his mouth and God who is the Judge of all is my witness herein that I have not added to what was spoken by him so be ashamed thou blind guide and prove thy Doctrines else be silent and give over teaching others who thy self art untaught mind that in thy conscience which shews the sin and evil and let it stop thy mouth see thy own confusion glory not in Babylon a building by thy own fingers in thy own imaginations the Kingdom thou art departed from the measure which shews the evil thou disobeys and from men thou art driven and thy dwelling is amongst the Beasts of the field and thou art pushing with thy horn and power against the Lambs and upon the grasse thou art feeding there is thy state not only seven times but ever except the light which shines in thy Conscience thou own that by it thou may be led out of darkness up to Christ who for that end gave thee a measure to profit withall doth not a man whose eyes are open know a beast by one mark how many marks doth thou here beare which God gives his Children victory over therefore cease thy prateing with malitious words against that which thou knows not and come out of deceit and the worlds vanities which thou sticks in contrary to that in thy conscience therefore be warned thou who spreads thy self as the Bramble-bush and obey that in thy conscience which shews the sin and evil for fire is in the bush though thou be not aware of it resist not that in thy Conscience by which God calls thee and secretly checks thee that out of the evil of the world thou may come God who is a consusuming fire will awake for his own glory and his fire he will kindle which all thorns bryars and brambles shall consume prize the day of thy visitation A Lover of thy soul Thomas Lawson THE END
is able to save the soul Iames 1.21 this is denied of thee who lives in pollutions and in the nature of the world the light who ownes which comes from Chfist it lets man see a necessity of a Saviour to save him from sin and by little and little begets faith in him as that from sin he shall be saved now abiding the end of faith is witnessed that is possessed which was beleived to be enjoyed so is Christ the author and finisher of faith doth this beget carelessnesse or bring forth iniquity no who live in iniquity salvation witness not but the same that saves from sin keeps out of sin all who abide in it 1 Ioh. 3.6 but what is this to thee who art one of the foolish women that sewes pillows to all Arme holes and slaies the souls that should not die and saves the soules alive that should not live by thy lies Ezek. 13.18.19 12. He said that that Christ that was crucified at Jerusalem and role flesh and bones c. is not really in any man upon earth but his spirit is I answer no other Christ we own but him who witnessed a good confession before Pontius Pilate and thou that knowes not that he is in thee art a Reprobate 2 Cor. 13.5 and the same Paul who said Christ is in you except you be Reprobates the same said Christ lives in me Gal. 2.20 Now if thou had been in the dayes of Paul who said Christ lived in him would thou have told him that Christ did not it was his spirit or would thou have told him that Christ did not really live in him or wilt thou set Christ in one place his spirit in another who is Emanuel God with us Mat. 1.23 and saith Christ I in them and thou in me Jo 17.23.26 Now wi●t thou oppose Christ and say he is not really in them who is it here that denies Christ who is it that wrests the Scriptures and now thou art a lyar who saith Christ is not really in any man upon earth Christ saith otherwise whether must Christ or thou be believed He saith At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you Jo 14.20 and he that eats my flesh and drinks my blood dwells in me and I in him but a wiser then thou may stumble at this John 6.56 and Christ in you the hope of glory Col. 1.27 Now this thou that stumbles at is that the Scripture may be fulfilled Christ is a stumbling stone 13. He said the Scripture is the word I answer that is another lie and the Scripture is a witness against thee it saith God is the word and the word became flesh and dwelt amongst the Saints John 1.1.14 and Rev. 19.13 his name is called the word of God Rev. 19.13 Now the Scripture is a true Declaration John 5.39.40 Luke 1.1 14. He said the Scripture was the word of Faith I answer that is another lie and here thou denies Christ who was before the World was or the Scripture was or Heresie Schisme Antichrist or false Prophet was Heb. 12.2 who is the Authour and finisher of faith Now thou sayes the Scripture is the word of faith now then how came Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob and Joseph how came these to faith and the rest who were before the letter was here thou makes it manifest thou art faithless not knowing the word of faith but puts the letter in its room and Rom. 10.8 Paul who was a Minister of the word of faith he was not a Minister of the letter but of the spirit 2 Cor. 3.6 but that eare that heares the word of Faith thou knowes not opened but the dead minde beares rule in thee so thou sets the Scripture in the room of him who is the Authour and finisher of Faith whose comming is as the morning who opens the blind eye and unstops the deaf eare Isa 35.5 15. He said the Scripture was the truth I answer here thou wrests the Scripture out of its place and sets it in the room of Christ who saith he is the truth Iohn 14.6 Now Christ saith he is the truth and thou sayst the Scripture is the truth whether is the lyar a lyar thou art the truth sets free Iohn 8.32 the Scripture doth not truth sanctifies Iohn 17.17.19 the Scripture doth not but thou may be ready to slander me because I say not Amen to thy lies and say I deny the Scripture which I do not for it I own to be a true Declaration testifying of Christ who is the truth Iohn 5.39.40 Luke 1.1 16. He said the Scripture did lead into the truth I answer that is another lie and the Scripture witnesses against thee which saith the spirit of truth leads into all truth John 16.13 and 1 John 2.20 ye have an unction from the holy one and ye know all things and that by the vertue of the unction in them and not the leading of the letter without them so the Scripture testifies of that which leads into all truth but is not the thing leading into all truth 17. He said the Scripture led into the knowledge of God and did teach man the knowledge of God I answer that is another lie and the key of knowledge thou here denies so thou art brutish in thy knowledge Jer. 10.14 Thou sayes the Scripture leads into the knowledge of God and teaches the knowledge of God here thou denies the Son and sets the Scripture in his place Mat. 11.27 No man knowes the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him and thou sayst the Scripture teaches the knowledge of God Rom. 1.19 what may be known of God is manifest in man now thou sayes it is the Scripture without that teaches the knowledge of God it is the spirit that discerns God who is a spirit and makes known spiritual things 1 Cor. 2.14 Isay 28.9 it is God that teaches knowledge John 14.26 The comforter shall teach you all things Luke 1.76.77 the Child Jesus Emanuel God with us he gives the knowledge of salvation Now here thou sets the Scripture in the room of Christ who teaches the knowledge of his Father and sayes the Scripture teaches man the knowledge of God here another lie is found in thy mouth and the key of knowledge thou casts from thee who disobeys the light which shews the sin and evil and another lie is put into thy hand even by the Angel of the bottomless-pit whose name in the Hebrew Tongue is Abaddon in the Greek Tongue Apollyon Rev. 9.11 so thou art opening and screwing but I say by thy searching thou shalt never finde out God Job 11.7 8. 18. He said no mans wisdom upon earth was perfect I answer Thou art turned from the light so thy wisdom is from below and thou and thy Generation who know not the Crosse of Christ but denies it knowes not the wisdom which is from above which is perfect in the Saints