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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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etc._n answ_n this_o we_o deny_v commandment_n there_o be_v for_o it_o in_o math._n 28_o and_o mark_v 16_o &_o necessary_a consequence_n from_o many_o scripture_n confirm_v it_o 132._o as_o shall_v be_v prove_v baptism_n they_o say_v be_v in_o that_o a_o good_a conscience_n make_v request_n unto_o god_n 1_o pet._n 3.21_o it_o be_v of_o repentance_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n mar._n 1_o ●●_o the_o wash_n of_o the_o new_a birth_n tit._n 3_o 5_o etc._n etc._n if_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n that_o infant_n have_v their_o heart_n sprinkle_v from_o a_o evil_a conscience_n have_v repentance_n faith_n etc._n etc._n they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v answ._n their_o argument_n have_v only_o a_o show_n no_o substance_n of_o truth_n for_o first_o a_o man_n may_v frame_v as_o good_a a_o reason_n thus_o circumcision_n be_v not_o that_o which_o be_v outward_a in_o the_o fl●sh_n but_o that_o of_o the_o heart_n in_o the_o spirit_n rom._n 2_o 28_o 29_o it_o be_v the_o put_v off_o of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o flesh_n coloss._n 2.11_o it_o seal_v the_o righteousnese_n of_o faith_n which_o they_o have_v rom._n 4.11_o and_o the_o circumcise_n of_o the_o fo●-skinne_n of_o the_o heart_n deut._n 10_o 16_o to_o love_v the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n deut._n 30.6_o now_o if_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o infant_n have_v the_o l●ue_n of_o god_n in_o their_o heart_n the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n the_o put_n of_o of_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n they_o may_v not_o be_v circumcise_v and_o the●r_a circumcision_n be_v nothing_o if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o good_a argument_n to_o keep_v child_n from_o circumcision_n the_o other_o be_v no_o better_a to_o keep_v th●m_n from_o baptism_n second_o christian_a infant_n have_v the_o grace_n they_o speak_v of_o repentance_n faith_n regeneration_n &c_n &c_n though_o not_o actual_o or_o by_o way_n of_o declaration_n to_o other_o yet_o they_o have_v through_o the_o work_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o seed_n and_o beginning_n of_o faith_n virtual_o and_o by_o way_n of_o inclination_n so_o that_o they_o be_v not_o whole_o destitute_a of_o faith_n regeneration_n etc._n etc._n though_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n hide_v and_o unknown_a unto_o we_o after_o what_o manner_n the_o lord_n work_v these_o in_o they_o eccles._n 11_o 5._o which_o i_o further_o prove_v thus_o if_o infant_n natural_o be_v some_o way_n capable_a of_o adam_n sin_n and_o so_o of_o unbelief_n disobedience_n transgression_n etc._n etc._n then_o christian_a infant_n supernatural_o and_o by_o grace_n be_v some_o way_n capable_a of_o christ_n righteousness_n and_o so_o of_o faith_n obedience_n sanctification_n etc._n etc._n but_o infant_n be_v capable_a of_o the_o former_a evil_n by_o adam_n therefore_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o latter_a good_a thing_n by_o christ._n that_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o former_a be_v before_o prove_v where_o we_o treat_v of_o original_a sin_n by_o rome_n 5_o psal._n 5_o 1_o joh._n 3_o and_o many_o scripture_n the_o consequence_n that_o therefore_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o latter_a also_o ●o_o wit_n of_o christian_a grace_n be_v thus_o manifest_v 1_o because_o the_o first_o adam_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o second_o adam_n christ_n so_o that_o as_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o first_o adam_n his_o fault_n disobedience_n and_o death_n for_o it_o come_v on_o all_o his_o child_n both_o by_o imputation_n and_o infection_n or_o corruption_n of_o nature_n so_o the_o righteousness_n and_o obedience_n of_o christ_n come_v on_o all_o his_o child_n both_o by_o imputation_n and_o renew_n of_o nature_n unto_o life_n and_o salvation_n as_o the_o apostle_n compare_v they_o rom._n 5.12.15.16.17.18.19.21_o 2_o because_o infant_n be_v by_o adam_n sinner_n child_n of_o
the_o man_n have_v that_o sign_n of_o purification_n according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o male_a which_o woman_n have_v not_o so_n woman_n have_v another_o kind_n of_o purification_n according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o female_a which_o man_n have_v not_o levit._fw-la 12._o each_o ●●x_n have_v their_o portion_n in_o the_o thing_n that_o figure_v their_o redemption_n by_o christ_n according_a to_o their_o several_a nature_n therefore_o when_o the_o outward_a sign_n be_v change_v from_o circumcise_n to_o baptise_v whereof_o the_o female_a be_v as_o capable_a as_o the_o male_a both_o sex_n be_v baptize_v act._n 8.12_o so_o infant_n now_o be_v as_o capable_a of_o baptism_n as_o they_o be_v of_o circumcision_n there_o be_v nothing_o therefore_o to_o debar_v th●m_n from_o it_o 3_o the_o law_n require_v circumcision_n to_o be_v perform_v on_o the_o eight_o d●y_n so_o do_v not_o the_o law_n of_o baptism_n ans_fw-fr what_o of_o this_o the_o law_n of_o baptism_n appoint_v no_o day_n at_o all_o for_o any_o shall_v none_o therefore_o be_v at_o all_o baptise_a the_o law_n require_v the_o passover_n to_o be_v keep_v on_o the_o 14_o day_n of_o the_o first_o month_n exod._n 12_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n appoint_v no_o day_n when_o to_o eat_v the_o lord_n supper_n yet_o it_o be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n that_o the_o passover_n be_v 1_o cor._n 5.7_o 8_o so_o baptism_n be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n that_o circumcision_n be_v coloss_n 2.11_o 12._o and_o as_o all_o may_v now_o eat_v the_o lord_n supper_n which_o may_v then_o eat_v the_o pascha_fw-la so_o all_o may_v now_o be_v baptize_v which_o then_o be_v circumcise_v 4_o but_o when_o faith_n be_v manifest_v then_o be_v baptism_n to_o be_v perform_v ans._n th●y_o mean_a by_o manifestation_n profession_n with_o mouth_n and_o by_o than_o they_o mean_v not_o before_o that_o time_n this_o be_v deny_v and_o former_o disprove_v and_o they_o have_v no_o one_o word_n of_o god_n to_o confirm_v their_o doctrine_n 2_o though_o infant_n manifest_v no_o faith_n by_o their_o own_o mouth_n yet_o the_o mouth_n of_o god_n manifest_v they_o to_o have_v faith_n in_o the_o begin_n or_o feed_v thereof_o because_o he_o testify_v they_o to_o be_v holy_a 1_o cor._n 7_o 14_o which_o be_v not_o without_o faith_n and_o testify_v they_o to_o have_v grace_n and_o righteousness_n by_o christ_n answerable_a to_o the_o corruption_n and_o unrighteousness_n which_o they_o have_v by_o adam_n rom._n 5._o as_o be_v before_o declare_v again_o th●y_v say_v 145._o neither_o circumcision_n nor_o baptism_n be_v seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o life_n and_o salvation_n that_o whi●h_n be_v now_o the_o seal_n be_v ever_o the_o same_o which_o be_v the_o h●ly_a spirit_n of_o promise_n 2_o cor._n 1_o 22_o ephes._n 1_o 13_o &_o 4_o 30._o ans._n a_o bold_a untruth_n contradict_v the_o apostle_n who_o call_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n rom._n 4_o 1●_n and_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n be_v life_n and_o salvation_n gal._n 3.11_o ephes._n 2_o 8._o and_o the_o covenant_n which_o circumcision_n seal_v be_v that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v their_o god_n gen._n 17.7.10_o and_o so_o he_o will_v give_v they_o life_n and_o salvation_n reu_fw-fr 21.3.4_o whereas_o they_o except_v the_o spirit_n be_v the_o scale_n it_o be_v true_a but_o they_o shall_v observe_v that_o it_o be_v a_o invisible_a seal_n in_o the_o heart_n whereas_o paul_n speak_v of_o a_o outward_a visible_a seal_n which_o be_v also_o a_o sign_n and_o on_o the_o body_n again_o the_o covenant_n may_v have_v more_o seal_n than_o one_o so_o that_o if_o the_o spirit_n be_v a_o outward_a seal_n yet_o may_v circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n also_o of_o the_o same_o thing_n moses_n call_v circumcision_n a_o sign_n or_o token_n gen._n 17.11_o but_o he_o no_o where_o call_v it_o a_o seal_n yet_o paul_n call_v it_o a_o seal_n because_o in_o truth_n it_o be_v so_o and_o more_o than_o a_o bare_a sign_n for_o a_o sign_n be_v to_o make_v some_o other_o thing_n know_v unto_o we_o as_o the_o doole-stone_n or_o land_n mark_n be_v for_o distinction_n of_o ground_n or_o it_o be_v further_a to_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o thing_n former_o do_v as_o the_o stone_n at_o gilgall_n be_v for_o a_o memorial_n to_o israel_n how_o their_o father_n pass_v through_o jordan_n joshu_n 4.20.21.22_o but_o a_o seal_n go_v yet_o further_o and_o certify_v or_o assure_v of_o any_o promise_n or_o gift_n now_o because_o circumcision_n be_v such_o a_o sign_n as_o assure_v unto_o abraham_n his_o righteousness_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n the_o promise_a seed_n therefore_o the_o apostle_n right_o call_v it_o a_o seal_n upon_o which_o ground_n we_o also_o right_o call_v the_o passover_n baptism_n and_o our_o lord_n supper_n seales_n because_o they_o be_v such_o sign_n as_o certify_v and_o assure_v we_o of_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o righteousness_n and_o salvation_n by_o christ._n and_o from_o this_o we_o have_v a_o most_o certain_a ground_n for_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o baptism_n be_v no_o more_o now_o then_o circumcision_n be_v of_o old_a namely_o a_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o righteousness_n by_o faith_n and_o if_o infant_n have_v such_o a_o seal_n under_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o gospel_n how_o shall_v it_o with_o any_o colour_n be_v deny_v now_o under_o the_o performance_n of_o that_o promise_n unless_o we_o will_v say_v christ_n have_v not_o confirm_v the_o promise_n make_v unto_o the_o father_n contrary_a to_o rom._n 15.8_o 2_o cor._n 1.20_o further_o they_o say_v 146._o there_o be_v but_o two_o covenant_n the_o law_n and_o the_o gospel_n the_o old_a and_o the_o new_a gal._n 4._o the_o old_a covenant_n the_o law_n be_v make_v with_o the_o child_n of_o abraham_n after_o the_o fl●sh_n and_o have_v circumcision_n in_o their_o fl●sh_n for_o a_o sign_n thereof_o the_o new_a covenant_n the_o gospel_n be_v not_o make_v but_o with_o the_o one_o seed_n gal._n 3.16_o that_o be_v of_o the_o faith_n of_o abraham_n the_o child_n of_o the_o fl●sh_n be_v not_o they_o to_o who_o this_o covenant_n be_v make_v rom._n 9.8_o the_o child_n of_o the_o fl●sh_n must_v be_v but_o out_o etc._n etc._n gal._n 4_o 30._o so_o that_o the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n and_o his_o child_n after_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o life_n and_o salvation_n it_o be_v the_o covenant_n of_o work_n of_o the_o law_n etc._n etc._n ans._n in_o this_o their_o plea_n there_o be_v a_o little_a truth_n but_o much_o error_n and_o delusion_n it_o be_v true_a there_o be_v but_o two_o covenant_n the_o law_n and_o the_o gospel_n there_o be_v sophistry_n and_o delusion_n in_o their_o say_n the_o covenant_n of_o the_o law_n be_v with_o the_o child_n of_o abraham_n after_o the_o flesh_n for_o as_o after_o the_o fl●sh_n mean_v natural_a generation_n so_o isaak_n jakob_n and_o all_o the_o israelite_n even_o christ_n himself_o be_v abraham_n child_n after_o the_o flesh_n math._n 1.1_o rom._n 1.3_o &_o 9.3.4.5_o yet_o be_v not_o they_o alien_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o as_o the_o fl●sh_n mean_v corruption_n of_o nature_n rom._n 8.1.8.9_o and_o as_o man_n have_v no_o other_o generation_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o of_o the_o fl●sh_n john_n 3_o vers_fw-la 5.6_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o god_n rom._n 9.8_o and_o they_o be_v under_o the_o law_n not_o under_o the_o gospel_n but_o this_o be_v nothing_o against_o the_o truth_n we_o maintain_v for_o isaak_n who_o be_v abraham_n seed_n after_o the_o flesh_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n but_o after_o the_o spirit_n and_o by_o promise_n in_o the_o second_o sense_n he_o be_v circumcise_v in_o his_o infancy_n now_o all_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v as_o isaak_n child_n of_o the_o promise_n gal._n 4.28_o and_o our_o infant_n though_o by_o nature_n as_o it_o be_v corrupt_v they_o be_v child_n of_o wrath_n ephes._n 2_o yet_o by_o promise_n and_o grace_n in_o christ_n they_o be_v child_n of_o god_n rom._n 5_o and_o therefore_o be_v to_o have_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o infancy_n as_o isaak_n have_v even_o as_o by_o abraham_n justification_n the_o apostle_n prove_v the_o justification_n of_o we_o all_o rom._n 4.3.22.23.24_o error_n it_o be_v that_o they_o say_v abraham_n child_n have_v circumcision_n in_o the_o flesh_n for_o a_o sign_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n or_o law_n for_o first_o the_o law_n be_v give_v by_o moses_n job_n 1.7_o many_o year_n after_o abraham_n and_o can_v not_o disannul_v the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n or_o make_v the_o promise_n of_o none_o effect_n as_o the_o apostle_n plain_o teach_v we_o gal._n 3.17_o christ_n also_o say_v circumcision_n be_v