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A96932 Private-men no pulpit-men: or, A modest examination of lay-mens preaching. Discovering it to be neither warranted by the Word of God; nor allowed by the judgement, or practise, of the Churches of Christ in New-England. / Written by Giles Workman, M.A. and master of the Colledge School in Gloucester. In answer to a writing published by John Knowls. Workman, Giles, 1604 or 5-1665. 1646 (1646) Wing W3583; Thomason E354_9; ESTC R201096 26,327 32

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