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A81917 An epistolary discourse wherein (amongst other particulars) these following questions are briefly resolved. I. Whether or no the state should tolerate the independent Government? II.If they should tolerate it, how farre, and with what limitations? III. If they should tolerate it, what course should be taken to bring them to a conformity with the Presbyterials? Written by Mr. John Dury. To Mr. Tho. Goodwin. Mr. Philip Nye. Mr. Samuel Hartlib. Published by a friend, for more common use. Dury, John, 1596-1680. 1644 (1644) Wing D2859; Thomason E6_14; ESTC R11327 31,647 43

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of_o the_o apologetical_a narration_n hereafter_o if_o it_o be_v find_v expedient_a and_o you_o require_v it_o i_o may_v add_v a_o appendix_n to_o this_o discourse_n contain_v the_o same_o till_o then_o and_o ever_o i_o commend_v you_o to_o the_o grace_n and_o love_n of_o the_o god_n of_o peace_n in_o who_o i_o be_o your_o faithful_a friend_n and_o servant_n john_n dirt_n hague_n 17_o 7_o march_n 1644._o finis_fw-la