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A47160 A narrative of the proceedings of George Keith at Coopers-Hall in the city of Bristol, the 14th day of August 1700, in detecting the errors of Benjamin Cool, and his brethren the Quakers at Bristol which were read before a great auditory of ministers and other citizens and inhabitants : and divers other memorable passages between him and the Quakers at Bristol, particularly a dialogue at Coopers-Hall between a Quaker cobler and G. Keith, and another dialogue between some Quakers and G. Keith at B. Cool's house in Bristol : together with some of the chiefest Quotations out of the books of B. Cool and W. Penn, read at the same place, the same day / by George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1700 (1700) Wing K185; ESTC R25716 12,132 31

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proper nor Intelligible Christ Quaker Page 243 the second Edition Is there any Place tells us without Interpretations whether the Socinian or Trinitarian be in the Right in their differing Apprehensions of the Three that that bear Record c. Also the Homousian and Arian about Christ's Divinity or the Papists or Protestants about Transubstantion If then things are left Undefin'd and Undetermined I mean Literally and Expresly in the Scripture c. Christ Quaker Page 246. Most Perswasions are agreed about the Absolute Necessaries in Religion from that Light and Witness God has placed in Mans Conscience viz. That God is that he is a Rewarder of them that diligently seek him that the way of God is away of Purity Patience Meekness c. without which no Man can see the Lord Nay they accord in some considerable matters superadded as some of them speak to wit that God was manifested extraordinarily in the Flesh that he gave his Life for the World that such as believe and obey his Grace in their Hearts receive Remission of Sins and Life Everlasting Note He makes this last none of the Absolute Necessaries but superadded furely W. Penn did Nap when he Writ this Christ Quaker Page 227. By a Rule I apprehend some Instrument by and through which this great and universal Rule meaning the Spirit may convey its Directions such a subordinate Secondary and Declaratory Rule we never said several parts of Scripture were not Christ Quaker Page 215 216. If the Scriptures are the Rule they must be so in the Original or Copies if in the Original that is not Extant and so there would be no Rule in being for the last of it that was Extant was the Evangelist John's History at Ephesus not seen almost this thousand years If the Copies must be the Rule it were to be Wished we knew which were the nighest to the Original there being above thirteen in Number this is undetermined and for ought we see Indeterminable And that which further confirms what I say is the Variety of Readings which we find among those Copies amounting to several thousands and if the Copies cannot how can the Translations be the Rule so various if not differing from the true Sence of the Copies in many things and one from another Page 218. Furthermore If the Scriptures were the Rule of Faith and Life c. then because they cannot be the Rule in the Translations supposing the Ancient Copies were exact it cannot be the Rule to force the greatest part of Mankind indeed to none b●● Learned Men which neither answers the Promise relating to Gospel Times which is Universal nor the necessity of all Mankind for a Rule of Faith and Life Note I desire the Readers to Peruse my late Book Printed at London 1700 By John Gwillim called Bristol Quakerism Expos'd in Answer to B. Cool's Book called Sophistry Detected as also my Book called The Deism of W. Penn and his Brethren Printed at London by B. Aylmer at the Sign of the Three Pigeons in Cornhill where he will find W. Penn's and B. Cool's Sophistical Arguments against the Holy Scriptures being the Rule of Faith and Life to us Christians sufficiently Answered and their Distinction of the Light Within being the Primary Rule and the Scriptures being the Secondary Rule clearly Refuted Also let them Read my fourth Narrative and the late Printed Sheet called A Serious Call to the Quakers c. Another Printed Sheet shewing the Contemptible Names that the Quakers chief Teachers have given the Scriptures Note Reader That I give this Paper the Title At a Propos'd Conference c. because it was really not only design'd but propos'd by me to B. Cool the Quakers chief Speaker now at Bristol and others of his Brethren concern'd with him in his said Book called Sophistry Detected both by Word and Writ But if some Quakers were Present yet none of them appeared to say any thing in Vindicarion of B. Cool or his Brethren only after the Quotations were Read one Quaker who said he was a Cobler ask'd G. Keith some Questions to the effect following Qua. George I have a Question to ask thee G. Keith Say what is it Qua. Doth God require of me or any Man an Impossibility G. Keith No. Qua. What Rule hath God given me that I may be Perfect as God is Perfect G. Keith Do ye mean by Perfect as God is Perfect to be equal to God in Perfection or only to be like him Qua. I understand not that Distinction but I ask What Rule hath God given me that I may be Perfect as God is Perfect G. Keith As Perfect signifies to be like unto God the Rule which God hath given you and all Christians is the Holy Scripture but ye and all of us need the inward help of the Holy Spirit to Enable us to Understand Believe and Obey the Holy Scripture Qua. But I cannot Read the Scripture G. Keith But ye can hear them Read and Expounded by Preaching and Faith comes by Hearing as well as by Reading Qua. If I Obey the Grace of God in my Heart that tells me I should not Sin is not that sufficient to me for my Salvation seeing I cannot Read the Scripture G. Keith I have told you already tho' ye cannot Read the Scripture ye may hear them Read to you But by this it appears ye think the Scripture is not your Rule but something within you but that ye think your Rule within you whether is it Christ or the common Illumination given to all Mankind In this B. Cool Varieth and sometimes makes it to be Christ sometimes the common Illumination given to all Mankind but if it be the one it cannot be the other which of the two is it say ye Qua. I understand not the Distinction G. Keith The Distinction is easie to be Understood Christ is distinguish'd from his Illumination as the Agent or Workman is from his Action or Working what is your Trade Qua. I am a Cobler G. Keith Do ye understand the Distinction between a Cobler and Cobling Qua. I do G. Keith Hath the Light within you Taught you without Scripture that if ye sincerely Repent of your Sins God will forgive you your Sins for Christ's Sake who Dyed for you Qua. I am not come so far yet I do not say that I am Perfect G. Keith Tho' ye are not Perfect yet ye ought to have such a Belief that if ye sincerely Repent of your Sins God will forgive you your Sins for Christ's Sake who Dyed for you hath the Light within you without Scripture Taught you this Belief Qua. I have told you I cannot Read the Scripture G. Keith And I have as oft told you ye can hear them Read Do ye believe that Christ Dyed for you Qua. Yea G. Keith By what Rule do you Believe this Or hath the Light within you without Scripture Taught you this Qua. Is not Christ within the hope of Glory G. Keith Hath Christ within you