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A49156 The abominations of the Church of Rome discovered in a recantation-sermon lately preached in the French church of the Savoy : whereunto are added many curious particulars of the practices of the papists beyond the seas / by Franc. de La Motte ... ; English'd.; Motifs de la conversion à la religion reformée. English La Motte, François de. 1675 (1675) Wing L303; ESTC R8201 73,183 130

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dominus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o must_v not_o heed_n what_o the_o protestant_n say_v nor_o what_o the_o papist_n affirm_v but_o only_o what_o god_n declare_v according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o those_o doctor_n that_o be_v of_o neither_o side_n let_v we_o take_v one_o of_o they_o or_o if_o the_o judgement_n of_o one_o be_v not_o sufficient_a let_v we_o take_v ten_o put_v into_o their_o hand_n that_o by_o which_o we_o shall_v all_o be_v judge_v the_o two_o table_n deliver_v to_o moses_n the_o ten_o commandment_n of_o god_n let_v we_o entreat_v they_o to_o read_v over_o that_o which_o concern_v the_o worship_v of_o image_n thou_o shall_v not_o make_v unto_o thyself_o any_o grave_a image_n or_o the_o likeness_n of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v in_o heaven_n above_o or_o that_o be_v in_o the_o earth_n beneath_o or_o that_o be_v in_o the_o water_n under_o the_o earth_n thou_o shall_v not_o how_o down_o thyself_o to_o they_o nor_o serve_v they_o for_o i_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n be_o a_o jealous_a god_n visit_v the_o iniquity_n etc._n etc._n exod._n 20._o let_v we_o lead_v these_o indifferent_a man_n into_o a_o church_n of_o the_o papist_n and_o into_o another_o of_o the_o reform_a religion_n let_v we_o desire_v they_o to_o tell_v we_o which_o of_o these_o persuasion_n be_v to_o their_o seem_a most_o conformable_a and_o obedient_a to_o this_o law_n will_v they_o not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o reform_a and_o protestant_n for_o among_o the_o papist_n they_o may_v see_v several_a church_n and_o chapel_n and_o in_o each_o of_o they_o eight_o or_o ten_o saint_n or_o rather_o image_n of_o saint_n and_o before_o every_o one_o of_o these_o image_n they_o shall_v find_v above_o twenty_o man_n and_o woman_n kneel_v with_o light_a taper_n in_o their_o hand_n they_o shall_v see_v other_o carry_v their_o offering_n up_o to_o the_o saint_n altar_n and_o a_o