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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90883	Certaine scruples from the army: presented in a dialogue betweene a minister of the new moulded Presbytery, and a souldier of his Excellencies (formerly new-moulded, but now despised) army. Being the substance of severall discourses, of the souldiers with the ministers in divers parts of the kingdom. Wherein the doubtfulnesse of the ministers new old, or old new calling, is manifested, their compelling principle detected: the practise of souldiers, and others, exercising themselves in the Scriptures, for their mutuall edifying, justifyed. / By one of the kingdomes servants, in the army.	Pounset, John.	1647 (1647)	Wing P3039B; Thomason E390_21; ESTC R201540	20,790	31

bee made of it but Sir you must beare with me I for my own part doe not know that it makes a man ever the more able to understand the mind of God in the Scriptures much lesse that it is the only thing to make a man a Preacher Presb. I doe not say it is the only thing for there must bee that teaching which you speake of and there must also be an outward call without which no man ought to preach Sould. Sir I pray you tell me what you mean by an outward call Presb. It is a setting apart to the Ministry by laying on the hands of the Presbytery Sould. What Presbytery doe you mean Presb. The Ministers Sould. If this bee the only way of making Ministers then is the Pope and the Bishops as true Ministers as you Presb. No they are not for they are Antichristian Sould Then so are you for you are Ministers by their setting you apart and laying their hands upon you it is acknowledged in the ordinance for making Ministers to be valid and you know that Pope Gregory made Augustin the Monk Bishop of Doribernia and he made more Bishops Pope Gregory sent a Pall to Augustin into England giving him power to make 12 Bishops and to the Bishop of York he promised to give a Pall when Austin had ordained him that he might make 12 Bishops so they grew into many hundreds as it is at this day Act. Mon. p. 116.118 and they made more Bishops and they made more and so it passed from hand to hand and by your ground the line of your Ministery must successively come from the Apostles and I wonder how both ends will hold together when the middle is taken away viz. the Popes and Bishops But because you say none may preach without this calling I doe desire a proofe thereof for I thinke the contrary will be proved although the calling you speak of were granted to bee right Presb. I will prove it no man takes this honour unto himselfe but hee that is called of God as was Aaton Heb 5.4 Sould. you have brought Scripture I confesse but not to your purpose for it onely intends Aaron and his successours the type and Jesus Christ in the antitype as the 5. Ver. doth declare and is not at all intended of the Ministers of the Gospel Presb. But there is an equity in it that bolds to the Ministers of the Gospel Sould. I grant that the Ministers of the Gospel ought to have a lawfull outward call which whether that that you plead for bee so or no I question But I shall prove that preaching the word in the sense before specified by you is not tyed up in the hands of Ministers but is the worke of every one that hath learned Christ as hath in part been proved and will yet be made more evident You see in the former quoted place of Acts. 8.4 those that were sca●ered abroad were not Ministers in office for those were not scattered abroad Ver. 1. Yet they preached every where up and downe in the Countries and were instruments of much peoples turning to the Lord Chap. 11.19.20.21 And when tidings of this came to the Church at Jerusalem they sent Barnabas but it was not to punish those ancalled preachers as I perceive you should have done but rather to incourage them and when bee was came hee was glad to see the grace of God accompanying their worke and instead of telling the people that they must take heed of such besi●odies as had been among them or the like hee exhorted them with purpose of heart they should cleave to the Lord Ver. 23 hee did well in it for the text adds hee was a good man and full of the holy Spirit ver 24. Presb. I grant that those in Act. 8. did preach but it was in a time of persecution Sould. Then it seemes by your speeches that when you have got the power which you so much labour for to persecute us we may preach but I think that if it be lawfull in time of persecution it is also lawfull in time of peace for we must not doe the least evill that the greatest good may come of it Presb. But that was when there was but few Ministers so that there was then more need of their preaching then there is now Sould. There was never any need of an evill practice to accomplish the work of God and if it had been an evill act the Apostles would not have sat still at Jerusalem Act. 8.17 and suffered these men to have gone preaching up and down the Countries but would forth-with have substituted some to be officers to have done it and forbad the other But I will give you more Scripture that so by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established you may see in Phil. 1.14 Paul tels the Philipians that his bonds had caused many of the Brethren in the Lord to speak the word without fear Presb. But by your favour sir he meant the Ministers Sould. No sir He did not mean the Ministers for he sayes That many of the Brethren in the Lord were imboldned to speak the word without fear if he had meant the Ministers he could not have said Many of the Brethren for there could not be many Ministers at Rome for we read but of one Church there so that I suppose there was not above two or three Ministers at the most for ought that can be gathered Presb. But I doe beleeve they were Ministers of whom the Apostle spake this is but your own interpretation Sould. Then I pray you sir let us heare your interpretation Presb. I say they were Ministers for otherwise the Apostle would have reproved them for Preaching Sould. That I deny for the Apostles never forbad any to preach but she onely that preached by the spirit of the Devill Act. 16.17 18. But did rejoyce that Christ was preached though out of envy Phil. 1.15.18 Presb. Then you think if the Mayd in Act. 16. had not spake by the spirit of the devill the Apostle would not have forbad her to preach Sould. No why should he Presb. I thought where I should have you then it seemes women and all may preach by your grounds Sould. Yes for it is warranted by Scriptures for I know no difference between preaching and prophecying for prophecying is to speak to edification exhortation and comfort 1 Cor. 14.3 and it is cleare that women may prophesie 1 Cor 11.5 Where the Apostle saith Every woman that prayeth or prophesieth having her head uncovered dishonoureth her head so then she may both pray and prophesie with her head covered The woman of Samaria brought many of her City to beleeve in Corist by her testify●● what shee had heard and learned of Christ Joh. 4.39 Priscilla did preach the way of God more perfectly to him that was a Preacher of it before Act. 18.26 Paul intreateth his true yoke fellow to helpe those women which