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Certain queries, propounded to the churches of Christ; and all that fear God, and love the appearing of King Jesus
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Barber, Edward, d. 1674?
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some Prophet and some Evangelists and some Pastors and Teachers And whether as the false church is rejected and the true erected the false Ministerie be not to be forsaken and the true received and consequently false Baptisme renounced and the true assumed According to Ier. 51.6 to the 10. The Lord hath brought forth our righteousnesse come and let us declare in Zion the Work of the Lord our God And 2 Cor. 6.17 Wherefore come out from among them and be ye separate saith the Lord and touch no unclean thing and I will receive you compared with Revelat. 18.4 Come out of her my people pertake not of her sinnes and that ye receive not of her plagues Quere 17. Whether Abraham had not a carnall or temporall covenant made to his carnall seed the Promise being of carnall or temporall things sealed to them with a carnall seal Gen. 17.13 Also a second or new covenant made with him and his Spirituall seed concerning spirituall things even the kingdome of grace and glory Hebrews 8.7 to the 12 whereof the Holy spirit of Promise is the seal And thus as I conceive things are proportionable Two covenants Gal. 4.24 Two seeds verse 23 Ishmael of Abraham and Hagar which typed the carnall seed And Isaac of Abraham and Sarah which typed the Spirituall seed These had likewise two Seales Circumcision Gen. 17.11 and the Holy spirit of promise 2 Corinth 1.22 Ephesians 1.13 1 John 4.13 But now under the Gospell the carnall Commandement together with the subject is done away by the crosse of Christ 2 Coloss 14. Blotting out the hand-writing of Ordinances that was against us which was contrary to us and took it out of the way nayling it to his crosse And infteed thereof we have a spirituall covenant typed by the carnall Also the Spiritual seal the Holy spirit of Promise signified by the carnall seal likewise a Spirituall Infant a new born Babe in Christ in whom Christ typed by the male is newly formed signified by the carnall Infant These had also two states and conditions promised the naturall seed the Land of Canaan Genesis 17.8 but the Spirituall seed the Kingdome of Heaven Genesis 17.19 Romans 9.7 8. Galatians 3.7 8 9. Romans 2.7 Mark 10.30 And whether the Admission of Children to Baptisme and so into Church-fellowship by anothers faith either Parents or Godfathers and Godmothers as they call them be not contrary to the Scriptures Which cleerly shewes that men are saved by their own faith and not by the faith of others Habakuk 2.4 Romans 1.17 Hebrews 10.38 John 1.12 13. and 3.3.5 2 Cor. 5.16 17. Quere 18. Whether it may not be said of Infants sprinkling as at the mariage of England and Scotland Where every one is charged to examine themselves as they will answer at the day of judgement If they know any cause why they may not lawfully be joyned together then to speak Because such as are joyned together otherwise then Gods Word doth allow are not joyned together by God neither is their Matrimonie lawfull So of Infants Baptisme or Sprinkling it may be said That those that are baptised or rather sprinkled otherwise then Gods Word doth command Matthew 28.19 20 were never baptised into CHRIST Galathians chapter the third verse twenty seven Neither is their Baptisme lawfull Ephesians chapter four verses four and five There is one Body and one Spirit even as yee are called in one hope of your Calling one LORD one Faith one Baptisme Quer. 19. Whether under the Gospel the Church and Civill state bee not two distinct things as bodies or corporations Independant of themselves by Gods divine ordination as is largely shewen by Master Hancoke in the three Kingly Estates Or Light for the Ignorant That is the civill state the true Ecclesiastacall State and the false Eclesiastical state whether the 3 part or civil state which was noted in speech between Mr Selden and Master Grimstone to be but Iure Humane having power from God only over our Estates Liberties lives and that which is externall as is noted by Luther and therefore are called Fathers of our flesh Heb. 12.9 have any authothority from God to settle Religion which is Iure Divino And setled already by the Parliament of Heaven with a curse denounced against all that adde or diminish and therefore not to be altered but by the same authority and Parliament of Heaven by which it was enacted Mat 28.18 19 20. Revel 22.18.19 Qu. 20. Whether it be not a Humane Invention and not Gods Ordinance for one to go up into a pulpit and there speake an houre or more and deliver what he please without questioning by any of the Assembly though never so erronious or judging by them whose due it is or adding if truth or whether these Scriptures prove not the contrary Act. 13.16 17.11 1 Cor 14.31 32. For ye may all prophesie one by one that all may learne and all may be comforted and the spirits of the prophets are subiect to the prophets for God is not author of confusion but of peace as in all the Churches of the Saints And Pet. 14.10 As every man hath received the gift even so minister the same one to another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God And as every member that hath any gift is to administer the same for Gods Glory and the peoples good so the power of determinig is onely in the particular Church where it is done they being the freeest Independent body under heaven whose power resteth in the body not in the Officers Mat. 18.20 and 28.20 Act. 1.21 to the 26. Quer. 21. Whether the servants of Christ are not to preach by vertue of a gift given Ephes 4.8.11 being called thereunto by the Church of which they are members as Acts 13.3 And not by arts learned at the Universitie or Authority gotten from Bishops or any others And whether those priests that hinder beleevers from exercising those gifts or those books from printing which are plainly proved by Scriptures be not a part of the Four angels Revel 7.1 that hold the four winds that they should not blowe upon the earth which causeth separation when men may not deliver truth nor contradict errours the Word of God being as David saith Psal 39.3 Like a fire within the breast of his Disciples they beinig as the Lawvers that take away the key of knowledge and enter not in themselves but hinder those that are entring Luke 1152. Quere 22. Whether it can be properly said that the Ministers of Englang doe convert any to the faith of Christ and obedience of thegospel by their preaching seeing they take it for granted before they sprinkle the Infant that it is regenerate and borne Anew whereas before it was the Childe of wrath but the godfathers having profest repentance and faith and desired baptisme or having one of the parents a beleever as they now say the Minister saith he receivs the childe into the congregation of Christ
Christs spirituall house under the New Testament whereof he is Lord Hab. 3.6 and head Ephes 1.22 23 and King Isaiah 33.22 and Matth. 28.18 19 20 and Prophet Deuteron 18.15 Matth. 17.8 Acts 3.22 23 He being the Priest and Sacrifice by which all that believe are for ever perfected Heb. 10.14 For it is not the voice of the Church as some fondly dream but Christs voice in the Church that we are to hear He that heareth you heareth me and he that heareth me heareth him that sent me Luk. 10.16 These where-ever gathered together under heaven Jewes or Gentiles have power from Christ their head Coloss 1.18 given to receive in deal with or cast out of the Church by the Lawes and Statutes of King JESVS their King and Law-giver Isaiah 9.6 and 33.22 James 4.12 Acts 2.41 Compared with Matth. 18.15 to the 20. 1 Cor. 5.3 4 5 and 2.2 3 to the 9. If any knowledge and light appear give all the glory to God through Jesus Christ As the Apostle saith in another case I am in a strait between both having many reasons not to set my name As my own unmorthinesse and dis-respect and being liable to sufferings Yet if I do not I make my self a Libeller by the Law therefore to discharge my duty to God and man By EDVVARD BARBER Citizen and Merchant-Taylor of London Who as I have formerly and ever shall stand for King and Parliament to the extent of Estate Liberty and Life doth now prostrate the same for King JESVS the priviledge of the Gospell and Liberty of his Churches And as I have formerly lain in the University of Newgate eleven moneths in Kings Bench and Newprison and sued in the High-Commission Court five yeares and in the Echequer and Common-pleas and Kings Bench being stung by the Locusts that came out of the smoke that arose out of the bottomlesse Pit Revel 9.2 3. So I desire to go on not fainting knowing that in due time we shall reap FINIS TO All them that love the publishing of the Everlasting Gospell of King JESVS I having given in many of these queries to divers of the Synod yet could never have any Answer from them And having taken the Protestation in which we are to stand for a thorow Reformation according to the Word of God AS ALSO THe cause of propounding these Queries is that notwithstanding being ready to submit to His Majesty and State as Masters of our flesh so farre as concernes our Estates Libertie and lives And walking conscionable in the way and worship of God according to Christs institution and the primitive practice To whose Word as our onely Law giver we ought to have recourse he being faithfull in all his house and therefore worthy of more Glory then Moses Heb. 3.2 3. yet have we been and still are both in Print and Pulpits reproached with the name of Anabaptists and said to deny civill government as by Dr. Featley Bakewel the Baker M. Edwards c. which how false it is let all that know any of us judge yea the Prelates and High-Commission before whom we witnessed the truth when some that now do rail against us hid their heads and fled their Countries But yet so long as we practice according to the Great Charter of King Jesus though we walk in the way called Heresie as Paul did Acts 24.14 yet so worship we the God of our Fathers being ready as the Apostle Peter adviseth 1 Pet. 3.15 Alwayes to give an Answer to every man that asketh with meeknesse and fear As also to receive any information produced from the Word of God And to that end if we might enjoy that priviledge that was under the Law among the Iewss Acts 13.19 and ought to be in all the Churches of Christ 1 Cor. 14.29.31 and 1 Pet. 4.10 which order ought to be continued for ever Matth. 28.20 1 Tim. 5.20 which is to come openly to declare the truth or convince error we should be glad And so that aspersion of running into holes and Chambers and preaching in Tubs as they say would be taken away Which privacie we have been forced unto as the Disciples of Christ did for fear of the Iewes John 20.19 But as Paul saith we are not to seek our own but every one anothers good 1 Cor. 10.24 and 2.12.14 And as Christ requires deny our selves And not like that evill servant hide our Talent in a Napkin Matth. 25.24 25 26. Neither should the contempt of our persons discourage us seeing there was a poore wise man Eccles 9.14 15. delivered the City by his wisedome it being besieged by a great King and great Bulworkes built against it yet no man considered that same poore man Also Jer. 49.19 20. and 50.45 God will work that great deliverance by weak meanes Also Jer. 29.14 For thus saith the Lord hear ye the counsell of the Lord that he hath taken against Babylon and his purposes that he hath purposed against the Land of the Caldeans surely the least of the flock shal draw them out surely he wil make their habitation desolate with them therefore the meanes or instrument by which God workes is not to be condemned but the wisedome and power of God magnified As Iudges the 7. So 1 Cor. 1.18 to the 29. Where the Apostle declares the preaching of the Crosse is to them that perish foolishnesse but unto us which are saved it is the power of God For it is written I will destroy the wisedome of the wise and will bring to nothing the under standing of the Prudent Where is the wise where is the Scribe where is the disputer of this world Hath not God made foolish the wisedome of this world for after that in the wisedome of God the world by wisedome knew not God it pleased God by the foolishnesse of preaching to save them that beleive And 2 Cor. 8.12 it is accepted according to that a man hath and not according to that he hath not for it is very probable that this unnaturall War will never cease nor Prerogative of the King priviledge of the Parliament and Libertie of the Subject be obtained till sighting for the Gospell with carnall weapons be laid down and the conscience left free for Christ the King Lord and Lawgiver to rule by his own Lawes and Statutes prescribed in his VVord Isa 33.22 James 4.12 There is one Law-giver who is able to save and to destroy VVherfore although we are to submit to the Magistrates as the Fathers of our flesh yet unto God as the Father of our spirits Heb. 12.9 and Christ bids Matth. 13.50 Let both grow together unto the Harvest though not in the Church yet in the world Shewing a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit for by their fruit ye shall know them And consider who must go up and perswade Ahab that he might go up and fall at Ramoth Gilead 1 Kings 22.20 21 22. but a Spirit that would go forth and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his Prophets and the Lord said thou shalt perswade him and prevail also go forth and do it Also Rev. 16.13 14 I saw three unclean spirits like frogs came out of the mouth of the Dragon and out of the mouth of the Beast and out of the mouth of the false Prophet which are the spirits of Divels working miracles and goe forth unto the Kings of the Earth and of the whole world to gather them to the Battle of that great day of God Almighty By EDWARD BARBER Citizen and Merchant-Taylor of London