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Quæries propounded to George Fox and his ministers to answer from a paper wrote by George Fox, intituled An epistle from the people called Quakers to all people to read over ... / by a lover of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was born of the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Ghost for the Christ and mans saviour, as that promised seed that God to Adam said should break the Serpents head.
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QUAERIES PROPOUNDED TO GEORGE FOX AND HIS Ministers To answer from a paper wrote by George Fox intituled An Epistle from the People called Quakers to all people to read over of what they hold concerning God Christ his Death Resurrection Redemption Salvation Justification Blood Faith and Hope By a LOVER of our Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God who was born of the Virgin Mary by the power of the holy Ghost for the CHRIST and Mans SAVIOUR as that promised Seed that God to Adam said should break tde Serpents head LONDON Printed for Anna Brewster at the Golden Bellows in Fore-street against the first Postern near Cripplegate 1669. Quaeries Propounded BUt being not ignorant that these assertors affirm the witnessese in conscience to be God Christ light and Saviour and as such teach obedience for Salvation which witness being but a mans own Spirrit as to it that worme of conscience that never dyeth I must against this doctrin testifie that the witness in conscience in it self is neither God nor Christ nor breaker of the Serpents head for as aforesaid the witness in the conscience being that worm in the heart that gnaws the conscience when its book is set open as Solomon calls a wounded spirit that who can bear is but the spirit in and of man that God in man hath placed as man is his creature to bear witness for God and for it self and being forewarned by God from his law placed in mans heart to keep him obedient thereunto which he not obeying is left without excuse it bearing record to the condemning Justice of God for originall sin and in that man will not receive the grace tendred by God through Jesus Christ who is the way and means that God of grace hath found out to save man by believing on his name is from the pride of his heart and self-willed of spirit accounting it two low for his exalted heart and thus from his pride put off from him so great grace that God hath offered to him by Christ and thence despiseth his flesh and trampled his blood under his foot as not sufficient for him in it to trust not allowing him for Saviour but if anything only an examples And thence being turned from him the way by whom cometh eternall life set up the creature all spirit in conscience for Christ and his light But in that you say you own all that the Scriptures teach I hoping these misapprehensions may therefore be reduced to truth am put upon the asserting this point that the witness in the Conscience is not the Creator but that that the Creator hath made and putting confidence upon it for God and Christ it being but a created spirit that God in man hath plac't sets up the works of his hands for God instead of himself and consequently makes man to be God and Christ not considering that God hath made nature but a substance for producing of his creatures by his word by whom he created them in their multiplicities of distinctions colours and shapes and having created man a ruler of his host he as Soveraign Lord over him establisheth a law as his holy decree to him not to aspire beyond the right of his make upon penalty of incurring eternal death which came to pass by transgression but God seeing into what a deplorable state man had brought himself into of grace promised to him a restorer that should break the Serpents head who being Christ that promised seed as born of the Virgin Mary the anointed for a Saviour is him the Christ of God that he gave for a Saviour to the ends of the earth who being him God gave the power too open the book and to break of the seals he is he that brings man out of the prison house of nature into his holy habitation of grace and he being anointed for a Saviour from his receiveing of the Spirit without measure doth shew in that he received that Christ is man and not the eternal father as God for his receiveing from gift proves the giver one thing and him to whom it is given another and he being the second Adam though Lord from heaven as he is God it as he is the son of man is that second Adam to restore man which the first Adam brought into the curse he is humane as being made of woman that was of the linage of David and in that capacity the taker away of sin for saith the Scriptures as sin by one man reigned over all and death by sin so by one man that is Christ shall life reign over many and as by one man all did dye so by one man shall all be made alive and not as it was by one that sinned so is the gift for the judgement was by one to condemnation but the free gift is of many offencies unto justification he having bought us by his blood which being blood of his body that was united to the God-head he as he is thus united is God and man in that person and therefore the blood he shed forth of his person for an atonement with God being blood in this high conjunction was not blood as mans is blood but was the blood of God from whence it is not unsufficient that it cannot attone but hath with God attoned for man that in it hath faith it being the blood of the Lamb of God that hath taken away the sins of the world who suffered by Pontius Pilate who hung him on a tree From whence we quaery for that you say you own all that the scriptures preach of Christ his Birth Miracles Sufferings Death Resurrection and Blood with all the promises that relates to him Whether you own Christ God-man in his Person to consist of nature divine and nature humane and in that capacity to be the Christ or the light in the conscience without the two natures in that person to be Christ and Saviour explain for saith the scriptures that as to his manhood he came of the stem of Jessey and as to his god-head that he was the word made flesh Whether the first promise that God made to Adam of the seed of the womans breaking the â—erpents head was spoke to him of Christ that was to come as the son of Mary or was it spoke of somthing within that Person to be the Christ without relation to that Person explain And since the Prophets dependâ—d on God for salvation by Christ that was to come whether it was not Christ in his person they looked unto for the Saviour and not the light in Christ without the person of Christ explain since they foretold of him as that wonder that God would bring to pass that a woeman should conceive with a man-child and bring him forth without the help of a man And since as it doth appear by Abraham that this was their faith by what Christ spoke of him that seeing his day he rejoyced and by Job that said that he knew that his Redeemer lived and that
victory over the world is not the hand that receiveth the power by believing on Christ the giver of the grace to beget us unto God childreâ— of the Kingdom or is it by believing the witness in man which yoâ— call the light in conscience which is but the spirit of man that which Solomon calls the Candle of the Lord that gives victory over the worlâ— in the heart explain Whether the Holy Ghost that proceeds from the Father and thâ— Son as proceeding from Father and Son be in the efflux both Fatheâ— and Son explain Since you deny in print three subsistences in the one divine essence and that they are not distinct in their operations as three father word and spirit Whether the water blood and spirit that bore witness to Christ oâ— earth were properties of his humanity or of his divinity explain And if of his divine natue and not of his humane what was it of Ghrist that cryed upon the cross My God my God why hast thou forsaken me Since the Scriptures say that it behoved the Christ to dye and it being unpossible for God to dye whether the light in conscience which you call Christ be the Christ that so dyed or the person be the Christ that dyed explain Whether since there is but one Gospel is it the power of the light in conscience according to your Doctrine or is it the death buriall and resurrection of Christ according to the Scriptures yea or nay explain Whether the price that bought man to God be the blood of Christs person since it was of the body God prepared to do his will or was it the life of God in that body that was blood explain And if the life of the Godhead is blood show us how it came to be blood since without blood there is no remission Whether the Lamb that purchased his Church by his own blood to present it without spot to God was Jesus of whom the Prophet said he was led as a Lamb to the slaughter and as a sheep before the shearers he opened not his mouth Or the light in man is this Christ off whom the Prophet spake explain For that of him in his personal appearance John the Baptist said behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the World Whether the word without Maries substance for his body is the whole Christ or the word with the substance taken of Mary be the Christ explain For of Christ the Scipture speaks in two distinctions as of two natures in the acting though one in conjunction in the act as he is the word God in Christ and as man Christ in whom God was as written god was in Christ reconciling and Christ him by whom the world was reconciled to God and the word being one with and in Christ whether the whole Christ through the words assuming the humane Nature to his divine be not God the divine and humane nature making up the whole person of Christ explain And since it is written of the Son thy Throne O God is for ever and ever a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy Kingdom thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity therefore God even thy God hath anointed thee with the oyl of gladness above thy fellows whether this Son of God is he that took upon him in his person for mans redemption the state of a servant accounting it no robbery to be equal with God and his fellow or is it the light in conscience you say is Christ who is this exalted Man Gods fellow whose throne is for ever explain But for your asserting of many Scriptures that relate to Christ for the redemption of man I know no professors that deny them as they teach faith to him the Son of God But your bringing them to colour your selves in your opinion of the light in you to be the Christ that I suppose they do deny and bring them for a witness against you for your convincement And I having this knowledge see not wherein you are wronged in being charged to deny God and Christ in a place above stars Sun Moon and Elements since what is said by you to the contrary speaks not of place but power and your saying you own his ascention and yet denyed his personal body to be ascended puts me upon this Quaery Whether you own Christ as a person ascended up into a Heaven that is a place of residence whereinto he is ascended far above stars Sun Moon and Elements explain From the 5 page to the 8 I pass over being but the same spoke to before But that you say in the 8 page Christ is the true light that enleightneth every man that comes into the world you err not knowing the Scriptures for they say not that Christ made all things for that as Christ is man he is made but as the manhood is united to the word who is God and that the two natures in Christ are not to be divided so it may be said that he made them by his head and the head of Christ is God For we find no where in Scripture that it is said of Christ as he is Man of the Virgin Mary that in him was the life that inlightneth every Man but in reference to the word that dwelt bodily in him From whence we quaery whether this Christ of whom John said was the Christ be he or the light in Man the Christ that G. F. saith is the Christ explain and if the Christ that G. F. saith is the Christ be he I desire to know of G. F or his Disciples what is become of the Christ whom the Scriptures bears record to be he Since you deny him in heaven the exalted of God for his Christ in a person Whether since you say it is the light that enlightneth every Man that comes into the world and the light is Christ by this assertion is not the light God and God the Christ explain And if the light be God and God is Christ and not the person the Christ then when Christ dyed was it not God that dyed and him that was nailed upon the Cross explain Since it is written of him that is the Saviour that by death he destroyed him that had the power of death to wit the Devil And if it was God that dyed and buried as dead who or what was there in Heaven or in Earth that did or could raize up God from the dead explain And your saying that with the light they saw the blood of Christ I say they did For he whose Testimony is true was by when the Lord was put to death who saith That which we have seen with our eyes and looked upon and handled with our hands and have heard from the beginning declare we unto you that your fellowship may be with us and our fellowship is with the Father and the Son in the light Therefore whether by the light in Man doth Man come to see Christ and his blood in himself