evidence the second proposition Mr Bourne did shew a book the Title of it was concerning a threefold Antichrist or to that effect The same in effect by Richard Tarnworth in his discovery of Faith or rather of infidelity page 13. This was set out by some Quaker and in page the 13. in the very leafe in which beginneth a Letter of James Naylers to severall friends about Wakefield when Nayler was prisoner at Appleby There is Printed this false accusation of the Ministers in England as of Errour because they say the books of Matthew Marke Luke and John are the Gospell or containe the glad tidings of salvation through Jesus Christ therefore the Quakers are not fit to be the chiefe Judges of Controversies of Faith Naylers Answer Nayler answered hee did owne that Letter writ to his friends about Wakefield and said the books of Matthew Marke Luke and John were not the Gospell but Christ was the Gospell Mr Bourns Reply Mr Bourne went on to prove that the books of Matthew Marke Luke and John were the Gospell by this Argument Whatsoever book the Spirit of God by the mouth of the Evangelist Marke calleth the Gospell that is the Gospel but the Spirit of God by the mouth of the Evangelist Marke calleth the book of Marke the Gospell therefore that book of Marke is the Gospell The first proposition is unquestionable The second is witnessed Marke 1.1 Marke 1.1 The beginning of the Gospell of Jesus Christ the Sonne of God as it is written in the Prophets Observe first That the Evangelist affirmeth that the Gospel was written in the Prophets Secondly that he calleth the beginning of that book the beginning of the Gospell not that the Gospell was not before for the Gospell was preached to Adam and Eve in Paradise after the Fall Gen. 3.15 But the seed of the woman shall break the serpents head but that it was the beginning of that book of the Gospell of that history of Christ and declaration of salvation by Christ Jesus For what is the Gospell but good newes or good tidings of a Saviour as that Angell speaketh Luke 2.10 And good tidings of Christ is not Christ himselfe and so the Gospell is not Christ himselfe but good newes of salvation by Christ This is the book of Marke the Gospell and thus are the books of Matthew Luke and John the Gospell and the Quaker denying this and accusing the Ministers of Christ as of Errour for affirming it this assertion is plainely proved that the Spirit in the Quaker is a Spirit of Errour lying and false accusation and so not fit to be the Judge of Controversies of Faith Naylers Reply Nayler had nothing to answer but lyar lyar hold thy tongue and sit downe for Christ is the Gospell the books of Matthew Marke Luke and John are not the Gospell Mr Bournes Argument Mr Bourne began to presse another Argument out of a booke of one Nicolas Cowlings Nicol. Cowling his word to 52 London Ministers p. 15 c. A word to the 52 London Ministers pages 15 16. whereing he blasphemously compareth Christ that dyed at Jerusalem to a woodden leg Let me be bold saith he to impart unto you my former experience in the mystery of Christ I thought a long while a faith in Christ that died at Jerusalem was the top gallant of a Christian but since it doth appeare I Answer There was a twofold Faith in the person of Christ 1. Erring of an outward Redemption from Roman tyranny of which Luke 24 21. Acts 1.16 2. True Faith of an eternall Redemption from sinne c. and purchase of liternall happinesse for his people in Heaven of which Mat. 1.21 Iohn 1.29 6 47 14 1 2 3. The Erring faith died with Christ but the true faith in Christs person did not dye as the Blasphemer imagineth c. that faith the Disciples had in the person of Christ died with him c. therefore it is Christ in the mystery that will save A woodden legge saith he that is tyed on may do some service but it is the legge naturall that is usefull for all occasions Thus doth this blasphemer make Christ our Saviour that died for us at Jerusalem but as a woodden legge But it is not that Christ that died at Jerusalem mighty to save not only by the work of sanctification in us by his Spirit through Faith to purifie our hearts but by the worke of justification by his blood and merits of his death and passion by which he hath made our peace even by the blood of his crosse and righteousnesse imputed to us for our justification before God as by our holinesse and good workes we are declared to be justified before men For God made him to be sinne for us who knew no sinne that we might be made the righteousnesse of God in him But this Spirit in this deceived Quaker or Erring Sectary who glories in his perfection and disgracefully calleth Christ that died at Jerusalem a woodden legge it is an Erring spirit and therefore not fit to be judge of Controversies of Faith Naylers Answer James Nayler would give no Answer to this but said he would not answer for any but himselfe Yet certainly James Nayler needed not then to have disowned that or denied to answer for it is nothing but what he himselfe did owne before Read the Perfect Pharisee p. 8. position 5. as appeares by that expression of his in a Letter sent by him to one in Lancashire That he that expected to be saved by him that died at Jerusalem should be deceived This witnessed by those reverend Divines who writ that book called the Perfect Pharisee And it seemeth it is their common opinion as may appeare by that speech of another Quaker neer Bristoll who said he was not such a foole as to hope to be saved by Jesus Christ that died at Jerusalem sixteen hundred yeares agoe Mr Farmer in his mystery of godlinesse and ungodlinesse witnessed by Reverend Mr Farmer a Reverend Minister in Bristol This spirit in the Quaker cannot be the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith Mr Billingsleys Argument Then Mr John Billingsley to prove that the Spirit in the Quakers and in James Nayler in particular was a lying scandalizing Spirit and so not fit to be Judge of Controversies of Faith brought an Argument to this purpose That Spirit whatsoever that did or doth affirm that Bul-baiting swearing cursing and such like are the fruits of John Billingsley's Ministrie that is a lying scandalizing Spirit but the Spirit that is in thee James Nayler or thou thy selfe James Nayler diddest affirme that Bul-baiting swearing cursing and such like is or are the fruits of John Billingsley's Ministery therefore thy Spirit is a lying scandalizing Spirit and so not fit to be Judge of Controversies of Faith For the first proposition I John Billingsley doe appeale to all the Congregations which have heard me preach in Chesterfield or else where
Scriptures I say to the satisfaction of a man or womans owne conscience in what they are to believe yea those to whom God hath given a more excellent measure of understanding in the mystery of Christ revealed in the Scriptures these may in some measure judge or be inferiour Judges of spirituall things and of private mens opinions in the Controversies of Faith For the Spirit of the Prophets 1 Cor. 14.32 is subject to the Prophets but all private spirits of men in the world yea the Pope himselfe and all the Quakers they are and must bee subject one day to the voice of Gods Spirit speaking in the holy Scriptures and that word of Christ recorded in holy Scriptures shall judge them all at the last day witnesse our Saviour himselfe John 12.48 The Quaker abuseth other places of holy Scripture But the Answers I have given may satisfie any understanding Reader I shal name only one more from Nayler and his fellow Quakers which seems to conclude against the Scriptures excellency and authority of being chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith calling the holy Scriptures a dead letter and the letter that killeth all to discountenance the credit of the Scriptures to exalt their owne private spirit The place of Scripture they pervert is that of the Apostle 2 Cor. 3.6 Who hath made us able Ministers of the New Testament not of the letter but of the Spirit for the letter killeth but the Spirit giveth life I might answer at large shew how the letter is taken in severall places of Scripture and evidence the falshood of Naylers application of this place also but in briefe The letter is taken 1. Propperly for the first Elements or beginnings of learning for the letters in severall languages from which by spelling and putting together are made syllables and words and sentences in and by which the mind of God and men is held forth to our understanding as in those letters of Greek and Latine and Hebrew which were written over Christ upon his Crosse Luke 23.38 And these letters may be called dead letters because of themselves they signifie nothing to declare the mind of the writer except they be joined and put together inâ— syllables words and sentences Againe Improperly and more generally letters are taken severall waies in Scripture for Epistles private or publick 2 Cor. 3.6 c. And in that place alledged The letter killeth The Apostle doth speak of the Law which he opposeth to the Gospell which is the ministration of the Spirit as will appear plainly if the Chapter be truly looked into yea the Law it selfe doth not properly kill of it selfe but is said to kill when men break it and so are become subject to death by sinning against it Rom. 7.12 13. Rom. 6.27 Psal 119.50 for the wages of sinne is death otherwise the Law and word of God doth quicken as David found by experience Psal 119. And the written words of God are lively oracles Acts 7.38 Heb. 4.12 2 Tim. 3.16 17 as the blessed Martyr Stephen witnessed yea mighty in operation and able to make us wise to salvation and therefore most fit to be the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith whatsoever the deluding Quakers pretend to the contrary Thus I have done with the first Question I come now to the second Question Mr Bourns Argument The second Question Whether the private Spirit in the Pope or in any Quaker be the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith This was denyed and Mr Bourne proved the negative by this Argument No Spirit which is subject to tryall it selfe can be the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith but the private Spirit in the Pope or in any Quaker is subject to tryall it self therefore the private Spirit in the Pope or in any Quaker cannot be the chiefe Judge of any Controversies of Faith The first proposition was not denied and the second is witnessed 1 John 4. Beloved believe not every spirit but try the spirits whether they be of God for many false Prophets are gone out into the world And here you may see the Evangelist giveth a generall rule for Christians to try the spirit all spirits in any man yea all that pretend to the Spirit of God as the Pope and the Quakers doe therefore their spirits are to be tried and so are not fit to be chiefe Judges of Controversies of Faith Naylers Answer James Nailer wrangled about the Spirit but gave no satisfying answer to the Argument but said the Spirit was not a private spirit if he was but in one against a hundred and said the Spirit was in them and he was Judge in them as if the Spirit in the Quaker were a publick infallible Spirit and so fit to be the chief Judge of Controversies of Faith which cannot be for if the Spirit of the Prophets be subject to the Prophets 1 Cor. 14.32 then much more the Spirit in the Pope or in any Quaker subject to tryall and therefore they cannot bee the chiefe Judges of Controversiies of Faith Mr Bourns 2 Argument Then Mr Bourne pressed a second Argument No Spirit which is a Spirit of Errour lying and false accusation is or can be a chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith But the Spirit in the Quaker and in James Nayler in particular is a Spirit of Errour lying and false accusation therefore that Spirit in them cannot be a chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith The first proposition is cleare because a chiefe Judge must and ought to have in him a Spirit not of errour lying and false accusation but a Spirit of truth and righteousnesse that he may bee directed to give true judgement and not to wrest or give wrong sentence for this is contrary to the Law of God Exod 23.6 7. Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of the poor in his cause and keep the farre from a false matter c. Therefore a Spirit of lying and Errour and false accusation is not fit to be a chiefe Judge of Controversies especially not of Controversies of Faith And for the second proposition that the Spirit in the Quaker and in James Nayler in particular is a Spirit of Errour lying and false accusation Mr Bourne proved it by these Arguments Mr Bournes Argument Whatsoever Spirit did or doth affirme and falsely accuse the Ministers of Christ in England that they erre and are false Teachers because they say the books of Matthew Marke Luke and John are the Gospell that is a Spirit of Errour lying and false accusation But the Spirit that is in James Nayler and some of his fellow Quakers did or doth accuse the Ministers of Christ in England that they erre and are false Teachers because they affirme the books of Matthew Marke Luke and John to be the Gospell therefore the Spirit in the Quakers and in James Nayler in particular is a Spirit of Errour lying and false accusation and so not fit to be chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith To
A defence of the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit speaking in them as the chiefe Iudge of Controversies of Faith and of the light in them as needfull to be looked unto for direction to attaine Salvation With a Vindication of that Honour due to Magistrates Ministers and others according to their Places and Dignities In a Relation of a Disputation at Chesterfield in the County of Darby between some Ministers of the Gospell and James Nayler an erring Quaker The Questions disputed were these foure 1. Whether the Spirit of God speaking in the Scripture be the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith Affirmed by us Ministers of Christ 2. Whether the private Spirit in the Pope or in any Quaker be the chiefe Judge of Controversies Denyed 3. Whether every man be bound to looke to the light within him as sufficient for his direction to attaine Salvation Denyed 4. Whether it be lawfull to call any man Master or Father upon earth or to give any honour to man Affirmed In which The Truth is confirmed and the Quakers Errors and Blasphemies discovered and confuted and many places of Scripture from the Quakers false applications cleared With some Animadversions upon a lying Relation of that disputation published by Iames Nayler A man that is an Hereticke after the first and second admonition reject knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth being condemned of himselfe Tit. 3.10 11. By Immanuel Bourne Pastor of the Church in Ashover in the County of DARBY London Printed for John Wright at the Kings Head in the Old Bailey 1656. To the Right Honourable Iohn Glyn Lord chiefe Justice and to the Honorable Richard Aske Peter Warbarton Justices of the Upper Bench. To the Right Honourable Oliver Saint Iohn Lord Chiefe Justice and to the Honorable Edward Atkins Matthew Hales Hugh Windham Justices of the Court of Common Pleas. To the Right Honorable William Steele Lord chiefe Baron and to the Honorable Iohn Parker Ro Nicolas R Tomlins Barons of His Highness Court of Exchequer To the Right Honorable Commissiary Generall Edward Whaley Major Generall of the Counties of Nottingham Darby Lincoln Leicester Warwick And to all other the Honorable and Worshipfull Justices and Officers for the preservation of piety and the peace of the Nation The blessing of truth and true peace here eternal happines hereafter Right Honorable MAY it please your honours to give me leave to become your humble remembrancer That when Joshua that religious wise faithfull and valiant Captaine Generall of all the Armies of Israel had conquered one thirty Kings and by Gods assistance setled the Lords people in the promised land to witnesse his care of piety as well as of peace He calleth for all Israel for their Elders their Heads their Judges and for their Officers and mindeth them of the mighty works the Lord had done for them and pressed them upon that account to stir up their affections to love the Lord their God and to feare him and serve him in truth and sincerity yea to put away their false gods and false worship from amongst them And we read likewise of faithfull Samuel that hee judged Israel all the daies of his life and hee went from yeare to yeare in Circuit to Bethel and Gilgal and Mizpeh and he judged Israel in all those places and his returne was to Ramah for there was his house and there he judged Israel and there he built an Altar unto the Lord Thus here you see there was both Justice and Piety in this holy man of God and Israel was blessed in such a Judge We cannot but acknowledge that the Lord hath done great things in these Nations and wee doe enjoy peace and plenty and many mercies which we have not prized nor improved as we ought to the best advantage for Gods glory and our own good Under his Highnesse protection and the present Government through the grace of God every man may sit quietly under his own vine and fig-tree without feare of plundering a happiness which in few yeares past we did not enjoy Yea we have good Lawes and honourable religious Judges and Magistrates to see Justice executed and right done between man and man and wee enjoy our comfortable Liberty of preaching and hearing the Gospell of Christ Yet can we not say there is no complaining nor cause of complaint in our streets The Church and people of God have met with enemies in all ages Cant. 2.2 As is the Lillie amongst the thorns so is my beloved among the daughters and as it was of old so it is in these our daies the Church and people of God especially Gods faithfull Ministers suffer persecution by two sorts of people The first prophane Ranters Atheisticall men Drunkards Gamesters and ignorant blind soules such as neglect publike Ordinances in these times of liberty and have no right principle of grace and goodness in them These make it a delight to exercise their malice against the Ministers of Christ These would rob and spoile them to the uttermost if it were in their power And this we can witness we have found true by troublesome experience Againe there is another sort of people which travell up and downe the Nation under the name of Quakers as the Jesuits and seminary Priests have used to doe secretly so these now openly disswading and seducing our people all they can from commitig to our Churches or meeting houses calling our Churches Idols Temples All our services to God in praier preaching of the word and other Christian exercises ordinary and extraordinary when wee seeke the face of God for the peace and welfare of the Nation for the prosperity of our Navie and Armies both by sea and land or our praising God for his mercies we do enjoy All these say the Quakers are but Idol-worship In a Quakers book called a Discovery of a threefold state of Antichrist by Samuel Ballivant c. and beastly services and all the faithfull and godlie Ministers of Christ without exception are thieves our maintenance by Tithes Antichristian and unlawfull Yea they call us Conjurers Antichrists witches devils liars a viperous and serpentine generation blasphemers scarlet coloured beasts Babylons Merchants whited wals painted Sepulchres and whatsoever the true Prophets of God or Christ our Saviour did justly call the false Prophets wicked priests and Scribes and Pharisees those names do these rayling and reviling Quakers give to the godly painfull learned and faithfull Ministers of Christ in the Nation disswading our people from hearing us or giving heed to any thing we preach disturbing us in our publike ministrie And what can we call this but a persecution like that of those wicked men against the good Prophet Jeremie Come say they and let us smiâ—e him with the tongue and let us not give heed to any of his words Jer. 18.18 And what is persecution if this be not Yea such is the malice of these Jesuited Quaking adversaries against the ministers of Christ
that we have just cause to feare they had some designe before this day to have brought to pass bloody projects to our ruine had not God our most high protector and his Highness under God been provident to prevent those common mutinies and insurrections which in all appearance had been plotted against this Nation and the good people thereof and then we doubt not but our Quaking and our prophane atheisticall adversaries like Herod and Pontius Pilate against Christ would both have agreed against us to our destruction if the Lord our good God should not preserve us What construction else can wee make of those bitter threatnings not only in words and to our faces one of the Quakers telling me Thus I was threatned by E. S. a Quaker since dead that I was plundered formerly by the Cavalliers but it should not be long but my house should be pulled downe and I thrust out of doors But to the same effect also in their written papers A description of the true and false Temple page 45. Nayler in his false relation and printed pamphlets Howle ye Priests say some of them the Lord is comming to beat up your quarters by his sword and fire and great shall be the slaine of the Lord. And God is risen to cut you off saith James Nayler himself And the former concludes alas alas poor Priests your downfall is near at hand subscribed published by Thomas Aldam Benjamin Nicolson and John Harwood And another of them the Lord is comming to beat up your quarters all ye proud Priests and downe with this deceiver tith-monger and robber and down with this Idols Temple as if they would stir up the people to pull down our Churches and to destroy all the faithfull Ministers of the Gospell in the Nation on a sudden and this subscribed as an Oracle from heaven written from the Spirit of the Lord. I let pass divers others But I humbly conceive in these Alarums it is fit the Ministers of Christ should be awakened as to be faithfull in their places and to walke believingly holily and humbly with God so to seek timely for protection and safety in the Lord and to whom under God should we seek but to that high power and authority and to those honourable Judges and Magistrates whom the Lord in his most wise providence hath raised up and set over us for the punishment of evill doers and for the praise of them that doe well and we acknowledge Gods goodnesse that he hath moved the heart of his Highnesse His Highnesse Declaration November 21. 1655. to take notice of the abuse of that Liberty of Conscience as by others so by these our adversaries who make too bold thereby to disturbe and persecute Gods faithfull Ministers yea under pretence of honouring God to dishonour and contemne the honourable Judges and Magistrates in the land keeping on their hats when they are called to answer before them and refusing to give any respect or outward shew of reverence to them Yea such they are as in their blind zeale to an imaginary reformation and conceited or pretended obedience to Christ Richard Farnworth a Quaker in a pamphlet of his c. would perswade people to cast away not only the good and wholsome lawes but all our learned Lawyers as well as Divines be they never so pious honest and faithfull of which blessed be God we have many in the land yet these must be banished also as unfit say they for any Christians to make use of and as if all going to law though upon never so just grounds were unlawfull for any that professeth Christianity without which and the assistance of our honourable Judges and good Magistrates what lawlesse wicked lives would a multitude lead And we that are the faithfull ministers of Jesus Christ have cause further to acknowledge Gods goodnesse in stirring up his Highnesse under God our supreme Protector with his honourable Councill His Highnesse proclamation Feb. 15. 1654. to send forth his late Proclamation against such prophane Ranters and Quakers to prohibite the disturbance of us Ministers and other Christians in our solemn assemblies Since which Proclamation blessed be God wee have had much more quietness in our exercises of religion and congregations then formerly we had But yet we are not without malicious enemies prophane persons as ill as Quakers And therefore to whom under God and his Highness under him should we apply our selves but to you my honourable Lords and to all other the honourable Judges Magistrates and Officers who are appointed for the preservation of the peace and welfare of the Nation And especially I am bold to apply my selfe to you my honoured Lords in more particular whose great Abilities Wisedome Justice Goodness and Faithfulness which I have observed in a serious examination of such causes which in your Circuits and in particular in severall Assies at Darby have come before your honours for tryall your judicious discerning between things that differ between right and wrong between a petty frivolous action brought by a malicious adversary brought only to vex a poor man your discountenancing of malice and that abuse of the good Lawes your just sentences given to the honour of God the good lawes of the land and to the comfort of poore men oppressed These things have encouraged me to dedicate this my defence of the Scriptures vindication of the honour of Magistrates Ministers and others according to their place dignities Unto your honors and all that have power and authority in the execution of Justice and preservation of piety and the peace of this Common-wealth humbly supplicating the continuance as of his Highness so under him of all your protections and favourable aspects upon and unto all Gods faithfull Ministers to maintaine them in that which is their just rights against their malicious adversaries yea to defend and maintaine the honour of magistracy Rom. 13.1 as an Ordinance of God for the comfort and safety of his people and to defend Christ and the truth of the Gospell of Jesus to defend the honour and glory of the Lord the most high Protector of his Church against all open prophaness and odious heresies and abominable blasphemies whatsoever that it may appeare we are a people taught by Christ as the truth is in Jesus and that the Lord of Hosts may appeare for us as our Protector to the end even till Shilo come againe Most humbly praying in my daily addresses to the throne of grace not only for my selfe but for all my reverend brethren the godly faithfull ministers of the Gospell of Christ that the Lord will more and more fill our hearts with his spirit of grace wisedome holiness and zeale that we may in a right way of holiness Iude 3. meekness and truth contend for the faith that was once delivered to the Saints that our own lives may be as becoms the Gospel of peace that we may win others to walk in peace
darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God And thus againe it is evident that all have not a light within them sufficient to direct them to salvation and therefore are not bound to looke to that as a sufficient light which is weak and insufficient as the light of every naturall man is Nailers Answer To which Argument Nayler gave his common Answer crying out aloud as before lyar lyar all have a light within them to which they ought to looke as sufficient to direct them to Salvation Iohn Buntings Argument Upon which Iohn Bunting of Ashover named before an understanding Christian sitting neer Nayler Replyed to him Dead men have no light in them but every naturall man is a dead man dead in trespasses and sins Ephes 2.1 2 3. â—s witnesseth the Apostle Eph. 2. and what light is there then in a naturall dead man sufficient to direct him to attaine salvation Naylers Answer Nayler Answered not to the Argument concerning naturall mens blindness but said Christ had enlightned all men Iohn 1.9 and alledged that place Iohn 1.9 He is that light that lightens every man that commeth into the world and thence he would inferre every man is enlightned and hath a light within him sufficient to direct him to attaine Salvation or to that purpose so neer as I could remember Mr Bournes Answer to this Scipture alledged A first light Unto this Scripture I did then answer to this effect by distinguishing of light and said there was a two-fold light The first the light of nature the remnant of that created light of the knowledge of God in man by which men might know so much of God by the Creatures Rom. 1.19 20. as may make them without excuse Rom. 1.19 And which is a sparke of light naturally in every mans conscience Rom. 2.14 15. Rom. 2. And with this light Christ the Creator God equall with God the Father by whom this light and all things were made he doth enlighten every man that commeth into the world that is into this habitable world in which we dwell and all that are borne into this world in their right mind and senses Christ doth enlighten with this naturall light But this light of nature since the Fall is so darkned that although it may be sufficient in some respects to make men without excuse Rom. 1.20 yet it is not sufficient to reveale Christ or to give sufficient direction to attaine Salvation by Christ Jesus as that light which revealeth Christ in the Gospell Againe there is a second light and this is the light of speciall grace given outwardly by the preaching of the Word and inwardly by the Spirit of God by which a soule is enlightned with such a speciall light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ as he owneth 2 Cor. 4 6 7. and by faith embraceth Christ Rom. 5. not only as a Justifier by his blood and merits but a Sanctifier by his Spirit and grace in the soule and so a perfect Saviour both from sinne here and from wrath to come hereafter as due to sinne And this in ward light of speciall grace every man to whom God hath given it is bound to look unto it in a speciall manner yet not so as to neglect the outward light of the Gospell revealed in the holy Scriptures for the getting of more light because we know here but in part 1 Cor. 13 9 10 11 12. and therefore should waite for more light of grace untill we come to enjoy a perfection of light in glory Because this speciall light of grace held forth in the Gospell is not given to all for all do not know the mystery of the Gospell nor is it given unto all witnesse our Saviour Mat. 13.11 To you it is given saith he to know the mysteries of the Kingdome of God but to others it is not given And the Evangelist John himselfe in the same Chapter Iohn 1.9 10 11 c. in which he affirmeth that Christ is the true light that lightneth every man that commeth into the world in the very next verse he affirmeth that Christ was in the world and the world did not know him yea he came to his owne and his owne received him not But if all in the world had this speciall light of grace within them they would have known Christ Iohn 18.35 yea if all his owne people the people of the Jewes his owne Nation had received this speciall light of grace they would have received Christ But many of them were in blindnesse yea darknesse it selfe and did not know Christ for had they knowne him they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory witnesse the Apostle 1 Cor. 2.7 8. Thâ—â— answer was delivered logically in more briefe termes but to the same effect and more fully and largely expressed now for weak brethrens sakes that they may more easily understand Naylers deceits in his answer who gave that more largely also in his written paper then at the Disputation for that was commonly very short It is false it is false and lyar lyar And this was Naylers Reply to this Distinction of light given by me It is false lyar hold thy peace and sit downe there is but one light that lightens every man that commeth into the world and in a vapouring manner doubled it againe there is but one light which lightneth every man that commeth into the world M. Maudâ—slâ—y Mr Maudsley as I remember Minister of Dronfield sitting neer Nayler asked him what world he did meane Nayler Question Nayler answered there is but one world and that is the world of men he was asked againe whether he himselfe was in the world or out of the world Answer to which Nayler answered that he was out of the world unto which Answer some one replyed it were well if thou wast out of the world that thou mightest not spread thy errours as thou dost in the world Nayler wrangled still about the world and said there was but one world and that was the world of men which were all enlightned Then one that was neer Nayler asked Nayler what world that was into which Christ came Iohn 16.28 when he came out from his Father and which he left when he went to his Father againe And Nayler shufied and would have avoided the Question upon which there fell out a wrangling and other passages impertinent to the Question in hand which for brevity I omit here and shall remember them in my Animadversions upon Naylers false Relation Mr Bourne Whiles they were wrangling Mr Bourne did call to Nayler to leave wrangling and hearken to another Argument to prove that all men had not a light within them sufficient to direct them to attaine salvation and was giving forth an Argument Mr Moors Argument But Mr Moor Minister of Brampton stept in and gave this Argument or to this effect If there be some men that