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A77749	Doctor Chamberlain visited with a bunch of his own grapes, gathered out of his own packet of letters: to know whether my answer to his question gave satisfaction, and that by his reply to partake of those rare gifts of the spirit, which he proffered to publish in Black-fryers Church. Also an answer to Dr Chamberlains reply, concerning sprinkling the baptized. / By Thomas Bakewel.	Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19.	1650 (1650)	Wing B532; Thomason E601_4; ESTC R206402	21,189	30

as sprinkling and yet at the end of this Section you confesse That sprinkling the Conscience with the blood of Christ and washing the body with water from the same Text that I quote Heb. 10.22 comprehends the two compleat parts of baptism and yet you would drown the sence by the Iewish washings saying They had sprinkling with water Lev. 14.7 Num. 8.7 distinct from sprinkling with blood Exod. 12.22.29.21 and both distinct from baths and washings Levit. 15.5 to 27. in divers other places And we have under the Gospel Baptism distinct from the Lords Supper and the Holy Ghost is punctual Ioh. 19.34 But that text onely proves that Christ is our Sanctification and Justification signified by that water and blood see other Texts parallel 1 Ioh. 5.6 This is he that came by water and blood to be Righteousnesse Sanctification and Redemption 1 Cor. 1.30 but not punctual to distinguish the two Sacraments for one of them to Justifie and the other to Sanctifie and least of all punctual to distinguish the outward Formes of the two Sacraments for suppose you say here is water the outward Forme of Baptisme yet Mr Doctor here is no bread and wine the Forme of the other Sacrament Then you say If the Iewes had confounded the sprinkling of water with that of blood they would have been negligent in those things they were to be exact and if we should do so we should soon arrive at spiritual Babel which is rife with many who think themselves spiritual But Mr Doctor our difference is betweene sprinkling and plunging and we shall distinguish the two Sacraments as well as you And you confesse that the Jewes did keep them distinct that of water and that of blood although both were administred by sprinkling How much easier is it for us to distinguish between drinking wine and sprinkling with water at our two Sacraments and yet although the outward parts of the Sacraments differ yet thethings signified do not so differ for saith Mr Perkins on Galat pag. 214. line 32. Water resembleth Christ crucified with all his merits The blood of Christ cleanseth from all sin 1 Ioh. 1.7 And also faith he The water resembleth the inward washing by the Spirit and both by Iustification and Sanctification 1 Cor. 6.11 Tit. 3.5 and other signes as death and burial of sin and resurrection to newnesse of life And this is all that can be gathered both from the Jewish and Christian Sacramental washings and cleansings under the Law and under the Gospel which doth not at all take away sprinkling the baptized but rather confirmes it to be of God and not of man Also you have confessed That the outward Forme and the thing signified should go together from many Texts Matt. 3.11 Mark 1. Luke 3. Act. 1.5 2.58 10. Yea God will not do the one without the other the outward washing and the inward sanctification ought to goe together not the outward washing alone but the inward answer of a good Conscience towards God through Iesus Christ 1 Pet. 3.21 And yet I smell a designe you have in those expressions drawn from that Text Mat. 3.7 The Pharisees and Sadduces without fruits of Repentance were not admitted to the Baptisme of water Hence it may be you will gather That fruites must appeare on all before they shall have the outward Forme of Baptisme that you may exclude Infants it is true these Sectaries Iohn refused as unworthy of admittance till Reformation but all other that were willing were admited And besides the case of Infants whose Parents are admited is not the same with those that are converted from Judaisme or Heathenisme to the Christian Faith the Parents and their seed are set apart for holy uses as members of the visible Church although they want real infused Holiness they have a right to the Ordinances yea if but one of the Parents be admitted the children are holy faith Paul 1 Cor. 7.14 But this point hath beene so sufficiently cleared by others that I shall wave it You come to my second Argument The signe must be visible to put us in minde of the thing signified The token of the Covenant shall be seene Gen. 9.11 14. The People being sprinkled must behold the blood of the Covenant Exod. 24.8 The senses must bee exercised Hebr. 5.14 but hee that is plunged under water can neither hear the words of institution nor see the signe therefore unfit to use that Ordinance To this you say Sprinkling is but lately allowed of by the Directory but not by the booke of Common Prayer But what of that Doth antiquity of error make it ever the better But you ask whether by our Rule wee doe not make a face Christian yea a speckled faced Christian by sprinkling here and there a drop as if the water in Baptism were of a staining and not of a cleansing nature moreover saith he if we allow Baptism to signifie the washing away of sin as all Catechisms imply would you wash the face and outward appearance of sinne and so make an outside Pharisee-Christian But I say would you have the Elementary water go any further then the outside you that plunge all over yet all is but the outside and the more of outside in any duty the more you are Pharisee-like and that the outward Forme of Baptisme by water signifies the cleansing from sinne I grant but yet one drop applyed to the body in that Ordinance may signifie the greatest cleansing from sinne and if you stand so much upon your measure of water in this Ordinance let mee in your next knowe your quantity and by what measure you try the fulnesse of that quantity or else I shall suspect that you hold him most worthy to come to the Lords Table that will drinke most wine as well as to hold hee is best baptized that is plunged in most water The mean time I shall hold a drop on the face may signifie more grace in the Soul then ever any Anabaptists attained unto Again Circumcision on one part signified mortification of sinn in all parts or else by your Argument when they circumcised one part they should have flayed the skin off all over and where it was not so flayed the sinne was not mortified These are your excellent gifts it seemes you would have published in Doctor Gouges Pulpit But you get you back to the Common-Prayer Booke made by the Pope and Prelates and to them it seemes you will sticke And then you say It was the practice of Christ and His Apostles and those that we call Fathers But Mr Doctor wee must have some Proofes Old Birds will not be catched with Chaff But then you ask Would we have our faces buried with Christ in Baptisme and baptized into his Death and have our face onely rise with him or would you have onely an outside death to sin and resurrection to life in Christ Col. 2.12 Rom. 6.3 4. Or would you make Christ onely a vizzard for your face But Mr

Doctor Chamberlain VISITED WITH A Bunch of his own Grapes Gathered out of His own Packet of Letters To know whether my Answer to his Question gave satisfaction and that by his Reply to partake of those rare Gifts of the Spirit which he proffered to publish in Black-fryers Church Also an Answer to Dr Chamberlains Reply concerning Sprinkling the Baptized By THOMAS BAKEWEL DEUT. 32.32 Their vine is of the vine of Sodom and their grapes are grapes of gall their clusters are bitter London Printed for John Dallam and are to be sold at his shop in Black-fryers neer Carter-lane 1650. A Visit to Doctor Chamberlain to make Reply if he be not satisfied that the censure of his Dream fall not on himself to be left hardened in blindnesse SIR SInce I wrote my Answer to your Question concerning Sprinkling the Baptized you have published all your Letters which you sent to Doctor Gouge about it and also a scurrilous Libel full of railing language you have Printed with them This railing Rabshakeh saith That this reverend Minister of Jesus Christ knows not of what spirit he is and that he hath not the Spirit of Christ nor of a private Christian he is none of Christs Minister but a Worldling he is dumb and dare not speak he is not fit to have the charge of Souls he is devilish minded and ought to be cast out or healed Christ will not have such spirits to be Ministers of his Kingdome He is more for the world and his own ease then for Christ and your good He chuseth to keep his people in darkness lest a stronger then he should come in and dispossesse him by bringing in the glorious Light of the Gospel Thus terming our Ministers to evil spirits and himself and his Faction to Jesus Christ who only is able to cast them out and to take possession of the Soul being the Redeemer of it But what is the offence given by Doctor Gouge for this man thus to rail on him Answ Nothing but this Christ saith he answered all question and so should he But Sir why did not you come to him for an Answer How can you endure to hear this man to rail thus before you have tryed the Doctors faithfulnesse when he so lovingly invited you to come unto him and if you pleased to bring a Friend with you But your motion was rather for his Pulpit then for his Answer more for division then for satisfaction rather presuming to teach the Doctor then to be taught by him Now Christ would not answer those that came to cavil at his Doctrine Joh. 18.19 20. nor those that questioned his Authority Mat. 21.27 nor his accusers before Pilate Mat. 27 12 14. Also his Ministers are forbidden to cast pearls before swine or to give holy things to dogs Mat. 7.6 or to reprove scorners Prov. 8.7 8. But this railer goes on not onely against him but against all other Ministers that are faithful to Jesus Christ saying They are all his fellow spirits they are all agreed and they must all be cast out and enter in no more but into a swinish generation who dig their way to Hell with whom they shall run violently headlong to the deep Therefore saith he they are deaf to hear the Word of God and dumb to speak the truth thereof though upon it they will speak till they foam againe But saith he see that they do not deceive you for they are evil spirits seeking to devour you And so he concludes saying Receive this as from Christ Now whom this Railer is I know not yet some think him to be one Evins that was in Newgate for professing himself to be Jesus Christ and not unlikely for saith he Receive this as from Christ And also that stronger man who alone is able to call out evil spirits he applies to himself or some of his Faction But then he seems to recant of all the evil that he hath spoken against the Doctor saying Not that I hate him for I have many Reasons to love him in truth But I say if all were true here spoken by this Railer what Reasons can he have to love him in truth or if false what a horrible wretch is he thus to reproach him But God hath made his own Conscience to check his railing tongue confessing to have Reasons to love him in truth and yet they must not be made known Now I shall shew that you are led by the same spirit for these Reasons First You say That this Raler is a Messenger come from Christ and that no man can deny it which shews that the same spirit rules in both Secondly This Railer saith to you Set these things in order and send them to Black fryers and this also you have done although with some difficulty because as you say of the illiteratenesse of his composure which he left for you to perfect which shews that you are led by the same spirit Thirdly This Railer saith to you Write and print and send them and this also you have done Fourthly This Railer saith to you See that you use not my name and accordingly you have concealed it although it is very likely you know it Fifthly He rails upon this reverend Minister notwithstanding be hath many Reasons to love him in truth so you argue the Doctors friendship his age his learning his exemplary retiredness and strictness of living yea and expresly you say that you love him and yet one Dream suggested by the Devil will make you to leave him as you say hardned in blindnesse which comprehends all that the Railer hath spoken Sixthly You have given such way to this foul spirit as to defuse what he hath suggested for the Doctor answered to your question concerning Sprinkling the Baptized that you might come to him and also bring a Friend with you if you pleased But to the other question whether it should be disputed in his Church he would be better advised and well he might for what Shepherd would suffer the Wolf to dispute among the Sheep But you like a false witnesse apply his Answer to the wrong question and from that false ground take an occasion to insult over him and dare him to take advice with several Divines and also with the whole Synod and make it as pulique as he would Thus you have published your pride and vanity with lesse discretion then your approved Friend this railing Libeller who is sensible that his name is contemptible among the people Sir Having no Reply to my Answer I shall make bold to speak unto you in your own words and language expressed in your Letters thus Was your question to Doctor Gouge a matter of Salvation or was it not If not why did you so often reiterate your Letters with such vehemency for an Answer and that he would deal clearly in this businesse as he valued the Souls of men On the other side If it was a matter of Salvation why did you not come to him when