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A00278 VVhether it be a mortall sinne to transgresse ciuil lawes which be the commaundementes of ciuill magistrates. The iudgement of Philip Melancton in his epitome of morall philosophie. The resolution of D. Hen. Bullinger, and D. Rod. Gualter, of D. Martin Bucer, and D. Peter Martyr, concernyng thapparrel of ministers, and other indifferent thinges. Melanchthon, Philipp, 1497-1560. aut; Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575. aut; Gwalther, Rudolf, 1519-1586. aut; Bucer, Martin, 1491-1551. aut; Parker, Matthew, 1504-1575. Briefe examination for the tyme, of a certaine declaration. aut 1570 (1570) STC 10391.5; ESTC S119567 38,613 108

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meditation vpō no other thin● but vpon the heauenly puritie bryghtness● and of the apparrelling of all good vertue● whiche be bothe set out and also be exhibit● to all true beleuers by the holy ministerie ● the Church and that both they and their mnisters woulde labour withall diligence ● attayne to that brightnesse and comlyness● that al at length may shine in the vestures ● righteousnes and saluation And it behoue● ministers to vse some garments not only ● couer and to defende their bodies but such as may also haue some signification an● may admonishe them of some thing Now therfore forasmuch as it is thoug● good to the Kinges Maiestie to the chie● councell of the Realme to reteyne the vse o● these vestures for this present they ought to chaunge the wicked abuse of the papistes i● these good creatures of God in them selues to some godly vse both to the glory of God and to the honour of the Kynges Maiestie ● so openly to declare that all thinges to hol● and good men are holy and pure And tha● they be truely sanctified by the worde pra●er so that neither deuyll nor man can defy● any creature of God but that godly me● may vse them godly to the glorye of God yea euen for some vse of signification not only in the fruition of their naturall effectes For all creatures may admonishe vs many wayes to consider the creatour both of them and of our selfe and of our gratitude toward hym beside the consyderation of his large liberalitie in respect of their natural effects And to these admonitions they maye and ●ught publiquely be vsed Whiche sentence of myne I myght iustifie with diuers Scriptures besides the example of the Apostles whiche dyd so long vse Moyses ceremonies without any impietie As concerning the second question this is my sentēce gathered as I beleue out of holy Scripture They which do say that it is not lawfull to vse the apparrell that is in question in any maner yea in that maner which I haue described I say that they be at the least in errour for that they denie al thinges to be holy to them that be sanctified The same do I affirme of suche which for the same cause wil not weare those vestures forasmuch as the vse of them is receaued neither vpon superstitious or lyght cause but by the publique lawe of the Realme and by the consent of the Churches In dede the vse of these vestures maye be forced by suche superstition to pleasure the Romane or any ●ther Antichrist as it is nowe in Germani● that it can not be godly admitted of the go●ly ministers of Christe For I muste need● say that they take frō the godly Magistrate their due honour which doth deny that the iudgement ought to be folowed in these ma●ters Rom. 14. for that they do declare the v● of these garments to be obserued of that co●sideration which I haue a litle before descr●bed I trust your moste Reuerende fatherhoo● wyl beare al these things wel in worth F● to answere to briefly to grossely I though● it a great offēce especially for that I see wit● what art Satan doth resist lest that at once the whole religion of Christe shoulde be restored amongst vs as were necessarie as all godly Kynges hath done their diligent labour according to Gods preceptes and examples whiche he hath declared by Moyses ▪ and Christe his sonne whyles Satan goeth about to stirre vp so many pernitious contentions of all the circumstaunces of our religiō aswel in doctrine as rites For surely except that we remoue so horrible and manyfest sacrileges and dishonoringes of God wherby the whole kingdome of the sonne o● God may be receaued and we lowly submit ●ur neckes to his good yoke O howe intollerable wrath of god shal be kindled agaynst this Realme The Scriptures be full of such ●xamples as he doth nowe shewe most terrible vnto Germanie Our Lord Iesus Christ ●ssist the Kinges Maiestie with his holy spi●ite and be present with you the head fa●hers of the Churches al the nobles of this Realme that ye may both knowledge and embrace duetifully in time the dayes of your holesome visitation and all other such thinges in the whiche only standes the peace and health of this Realme God preserue your fatherhood At Cambridge this tenth of December To M. Martin Bucer doctour in Diuinitie most worthy his reader and maister most reuerende GRace and peace from the Lorde c. For what cause I am now in trouble moste Reuerende ye shal vnderstand it by this messenger in writyng I praye you that you would vouchsafe ones to geue it the reading ●nd yf that ye shall espye any errour therein I desyre you to signifie it vnto me by your ●etters If anye thyng hath ben vttered to ●arkly with fewer wordes then the cause requireth I pray you that you woulde set it out in the margent with more light and ap●er wordes If ye see the cause iust and meete ●or a godly minister subscribe therevnto in ●he ende I hartily pray you I sende you also ●hat I haue written before three yeres ago ●pon the .x. preceptes that your worthynesse ●ay knowe what my iudgement is in the cause of diuorse I praye you vouchsafe t● reade it that if I haue erred in this parte ●● humane ouersight I maye be aduertised your learning and fatherly admonition an● that I may refourme the same I pray you● fatherhood therefore and I doubt not but ● shall sone obtayne that you would helpe t●● Church in her conflict by the great and m●● notable giftes of god vndoubtedly bestow●● vpon you I require the same of M. docto● Martyr to whom after your sentence a●● prudent iudgement is knowen this m●●senger whiche I sende shall repayre T●● Lorde Iesus long preserue your worthyne●● At London the .xvij. of October 1550. Yours in heart an● prayer all whole Iohn Hoper To the Reuerende and learned father Iohn Hoper Byshop his good Lorde Grace and peace through Iesus Christ our Lorde RYght Reuerende and in Iesus Christ most dearely beloued I had purposed to aunswere before this tyme vnto the letters whiche of late I receaued from you but I was so let with wayghtie and sundry busi●esse that I coulde not before nowe accom●lishe eyther myne owne will or your expec●atiō in this behalfe wherfore I besech you ●ccordyng to your accustomable gentlenesse ●nd wysedome to take in good part this my delay What ye haue written of the controuersie whiche is risen betwene you and the ●ight reuerende Lorde B. of London as tou●hing the apparrell of ministers I haue both ●ead it as your request was also consyder ●t as attentiuely as I coulde for the shortnes ●f the time I say shortnesse of time because I ●ould not retayne with me your writing but only one night For the messenger who ●uered it vnto me set foorth the next day ea● in the mornyng towarde Cambridge w●ther ye wylled me
thynke ye not that this iudgement which here I haue declared vnto you was but nowe first perswaded vnto me For euen from the begynnyng since that I applyed my selfe vnto the Gospel my minde was that this difference of vesture should be taken away but yet so that I dyd not iudge it of their owne nature either wicked or pernitious I beseeche God almyghtie to preserue you safe and sounde with al your householde through Christe Iesus our Lorde Farewell At Oxforde the fourth of Nouember 1550. Yours both in minde and spirite wholy Peter Martyr Amplissimo domino Colendissimo Symmistae Ioanni à Lasco ¶ The Lorde graunt vnto vs in these troublesome times of the Church to begin and finishe al thinges that offences and daungers be not encreased Amen THe more diligently I weygh consyder both what fruite we may gather by this controuersie of vestures and also what Sathan goeth about thereby to worke I woulde haue wished before the Lorde that it neuer once had ben spoken of but rather that all men of our function had agreeablye stoutly gone forwarde and continued in teaching true repentaunce the wholesome vse of all ●hynges yea in commendyng and puttyng ●n the apparrell of saluation I see not in ● fewe alas I saye I see marueylous diligence in abolyshyng Amelech concernyng stones stockes vestures and those thinges that be without vs when in their deedes whole lyfe they most stiflye retayne the whole Amelech styll I knowe also some that helpe foreward this strife so that in the meane tyme the chiefe and moste necessarie poyntes are lesse regarded and called vpon that is of remouyng sacrilegious persons from spoylyng of Churches of prouydyng fyt ministers for euery parishe of the restoring of discipline againe As for my part if I thought those ceremonies and vestures were impure of them selues I woulde not take vpon me in any wyse the office of a Bishop vntyll by ordinarie aucthoritie they were taken away c. But to the purpose I thinke it not impartinent vnto this matter that we all be admonished to take heede of Sathans accustomed sleyghtes wherby he leadeth vs away from the care of necessarie thinges to the carefulnesse of those thinges whiche may be well let passe and from the searchyng out of the true doctrine of Christ to induce to vs those thinges wherein fewe can consent a like and finally by the which he kindleth in diuers men a zeale to purge those thinges which are without vs therby to neglect our inwarde deformities And seyng whatsoeuer we do either in word or deede both priuately and publikely we ought to do it in the name of our Lorde Iesu Christ geuing thankes by him to god the father Surely it is our duety no lesse circumspectly to beware that we neither do nor leaue vndone any thyng wherof we haue not sure or certayne aucthoritie out of Gods worde touching our actions and matters domesticall and Ecclesiasticall It is alwaye and in all thinges sinne whatsoeuer is not of fayth of the certayne worde of God. But to consyder this question in it selfe I haue accordyng to my gyft weyghed your reasons and yet I can perceaue no other but that the vse of all externall thinges aswel in holy ceremonies as in priuate matters ought to be left free to the Churches of god I call that free vse wherein godly men vse thinges created of God without any superstition to a certayne edifiyng of their faith in Christe I veryly as I haue confessed vnto you haue declared in deede vnto our countreymen had rather that no kinde of vesture whiche the papistes vsed were retayned amongst vs and that both for the more ful detestation of the Antichristian priesthood and also for playner aduouchyng of Christian libertie yea and to be short for the auoydyng of daungerous contentions among the brethren though notwithstandyng I woulde haue the Ministers of Churches to vse sage vesture and such whereby they might be discerned from other men but chiefly I would al the discipline of Christ to be in force amōg vs Yet I can not be brought by any Scriptures as farre as I see hytherto to deny that the true Ministers of Christes Church may vse without superstition and to a certayn● edification of fayth in Christ any of those vestures which the Antichristians abused For what should let but that the Churches may vse that white vesture or more vestures to monishe vs precisely of that diuine benefit● which he by the holy ministerie of the church dealeth vnto vs the benefite I saye of the light and dignitie of that heauenly doctrine and by the whiche also the Ministers them selues may be the more myndfull of their office and had both for it and by the admonishment of that outwarde token in greater reuerence of the common people of the church Whether we wyll or nay we are compelled to confesse that the ensignes of them that beare publique offices helpe some thinges to retaine increase the aucthoritie of Magistrates publique power yf other thinges want not by the which the true reuerence is geuen vnto them For if these things be not ioyned with those ensignes they induce not a veneration but rather the singuler detestation of them who vnworthyly vse these notes of vertue Signes in deede are signes and not the thinges yet how muche they are able to admonishe and moue the mind God geuing the increase he that obserueth wyll wonder Wherfore wheras otherwayes the true dignitie of Ministers is euident and yf any particuler church by publique iudgement do consent vpon the retaynyng of certayne vestures only for the commending vnto vs of the giftes of god which he geueth by the ministerie of the Church for to put the yonger and ruder sort in mynde without all superstition Truely I can not see why such vse of vestures in such a Churche may not serue to some commendation of the holy ministerie so consequentlye to the edification of fayth For what let is there but at this day they whiche are indued with the same spirite of fayth may vse a few signes as godly as the anciēt holy men haue vsed many They had you wyl say expresse writing cōcerning the vse of their signes I graūt in dede it made much touchyng the true vse of their signes But in that God dyd commaunde the vse of those and many signes we certainly learne that the vse of those signes may serue he geuyng grace to promote true religion and that it hath none vncleannesse in it selfe or superstition neyther can be by the abuse of the wicked so polluted that it can not be healthfull to godly men vsing it godly Now when as god by his word hath sanctified al things by our prayers and hath made all thinges pure to the pure what cause can we alleage out of the worde of God to deny that God wyll not blesse such vse of signes wherof we speake that it shoulde not be effectuous to that Churche