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wrong_v we_o say_v in_o this_o as_o saint_n augustine_n say_v in_o the_o like_a promisit_fw-la deus_fw-la quae_fw-la ipse_fw-la facturus_fw-la erat_fw-la non_fw-la quod_fw-la homines_fw-la facturi_fw-la erant_fw-la 10._o quum_fw-la abrahae_fw-la promiserat_fw-la in_o semine_fw-la eius_fw-la fidem_fw-la gentium_fw-la quia_fw-la etsi_fw-la faciunt_fw-la homines_fw-la bona_fw-la ipse_fw-la tamen_fw-la facit_fw-la ut_fw-la faciant_fw-la quae_fw-la praecepit_fw-la alioquin_fw-la ut_fw-la dei_fw-la promissa_fw-la compleantur_fw-la non_fw-la in_o deise_v in_o hominum_fw-la est_fw-la potestate_fw-la that_o which_o saint_n augustine_n say_v here_o of_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n true_a in_o the_o purpose_n of_o god_n predestination_n for_o god_n do_v predestinate_a that_o which_o he_o himself_o will_v do_v not_o that_o which_o man_n will_v do_v for_o albeit_o man_n according_a to_o god_n purpose_n be_v call_v do_v believe_v be_v justify_v walk_v in_o obedience_n &_o 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