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A00545 A supplication of the Family of Loue (said to be presented into the Kings royall hands, knowen to be dispersed among his loyall subiectes) for grace and fauour Examined, and found to be derogatorie in an hie degree, vnto the glorie of God, the honour of our King, and the religion in this realme both soundly professed & firmly established. 1606 (1606) STC 10683; ESTC S114625 37,251 68

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Elders of the Familie or some one of them yea they take not God any where to be truely serued but in their priuate meetings and among themselues Hence Our God of Loue is the true liuing God say they besides him there is no God more and his Gods seruice which we minister vnder the obedience of his Loue is the true safe-making Gods seruice and besides the same there is not any Gods seruice more neither in Heauen nor Earth (k) Fid el. declar c. 4. §. 11 This without producing further testimonies either forraigne or frō our selues may suffice to proue that they varie frō the now established religion in this land both in the Seruices Ceremonies Doctrine Sacramēts of the same al which in their iudgements they disallow except which is not credible they condemne the iudgement of H. N. and other their Illuminate Elders touching the same who haue published these their concepts to the open world The Familie of Loue. OR haue publikely spokē or inueighed either by word or wrighting against our late Soueraigne Princes gouernment in cases spirituall or temporal the let vs bee reiected for sectaries and neuer receiue the benefite of suiects The Examination IT cannot bee denied but the Puritanes I meane the English faction whatsoeuer the Scottish haue done whereof onely his Maiestie speaketh haue publikely spoken and inueighed aswell by word as writing against our late Princes authoritie in cases spirituall Penrie said plainely that her gouernment was traiterous to the Maiestie of our Sauiour Christ (a) Penry Supplic and therest not so far gon as he tooke her not as neither doe they our now King to be any officer at all of the Church I finde not the Familie euer publikely depraued her Highnesse gouernment either spiritual or temporall and verie bad men they and most vngrateful if they should diuerse of the chiefest among them receauing yearely both countenance and maintenance from her Princely coffers being her housholde seruants But this cleareth them noe whit from being Sectaries euen in this respect mentioned For in their publike writinges they speake basely and inueigh odiously against all Princes gouernment Magistracy and eminencie whatsoeuer spirituall and temporall The Familistes condemn all Magistracy and Eminencie and therefore against our late Princes gouernement in cases not onely spirituall with the Puritanes but temporall to with the Anabaptistes Among the excellencies of this people this louely people the Family of Loue for so doe they stile themselues the least is not that among them there is no masterfull dominion there raigneth no man ouer other (b) H. N. Spirit land c. 34. §. 8. they haue no heads nor Kings which are borne of the flesh and bloude of sinne (c) Ibid. c. 38. §. 1. It is well pleasing sayth N. H. that the one man of God Lordeth not ouer the other neither that the one be the others bond-seruant (d) Ibid. c. 37. §. 9. And as they please God in that they exercise no superioritie but are equall in degree among themselues all Kings and a kingdome of Kings (e) Ibid. c. 38. §. 4 so they terme a King the scum of ignorance (f) Ibid. c. 2● §. 14 and deeme it an abhominable thing in the eyes of God for men to Lord ouer each other and tearme such persons Bond-seruants and Captiue-slaues (g) Ibid. c. 38. §. 5 Last of all they haue Prophecies that all Maiesties Dominions Powers and gouernments whatsoeuer shall (h) Ibid. c. 49. §. 1 and make prayers that they may (i) 1. Exhort c. 17. §. 6. submit themselues vnto the seruice of Loue euen as the Puritanes would haue Kings to submit their Scepters to throw downe their crownes before the Church yea and to licke vp the dust of the feet of the church (k) T. C. 1. Reply p. 144. and yielde obedience vnto the presbiterie (l) Eccles discip p. 165. and also that themselues as Kings and onely Kings shall euerlastingly liue and raigne (m) H N. Prou. ca. 1. §. 18. Fidel. declar c. 4. §. 5. Praph of the Spir. c. 19. §. 1● yea and doe raigne vpon the earth (n) Proph. of the Spir. c. 19. §. c. It is therfore apparantly and from their own books writings sufficiently without other needlesse demonstrations proued that the Family is a Secte most vile both varying in Seruices Ceremonies Doctrine and Sacraments from the Religion now established in this land and openly inueigh against all gouernment of Kings and Magistrates spirituall and temporall sighers and seekers for a paritie and commixtion of all states and therefore whatsoeuer they doe not worthie to receiue the benefit and freedome due to loyall and good Subiects The Family of Loue. ONly The ●ar●ation right gratious Soueraigne we haue read certain bookes brought forth by a Germane Author vnder the characters of H. N. The Examination HItherto their Proclimarie Now ensueth a narration It is much to bee lamented that a promiscuous reading of all writings hand ouer head is permitted vnto all men the lamentable effectes whereof we haue and see in this Family of Loue. And yet I would they had but onely read and not studied followed and applauded these bookes as the very message and oracles of God from Heauen neither delighted in the darke exercises and Conuenticles of the sayd Family The time was when the letters H. N. were thought to signifie no cedrtaine man but either the heauenly nature or Homo Nouus a newe or renewed man or which A.O. doth in the Reuelation (a) Let of the Fam. but now he is acknowledged here to be a Germane Auctor and was though they say not so much as by letters vnto my selfe from Embden I can shew by trade a Mercer of Amsterdam in Holland which course of life it had been a blessed thing for Gods Church he had still followed and neuer giuen his minde to the writing of bookes The Family of Loue. WHo affirmeth their that he is prepared chosen Of H. N. and sent of god to minister set forth the most holy seruice of the loue of God and Christ or of the holy Ghost vnto the children of men vpon the vniuersal earth The Examination VVHat they say of H. N. he affirmeth euery whit of himself if his owne testimonie without proose or warrant be of any validitie In his Prouerbs The God of heauen H. N. a most impious and blasphemous magnifier of himselfe as the Father himselfe is come downe and bringeth in the seruice of Loue himselfe with his Christ and holy Ghost and withall that which with him is Gods vnto his obedient Man H.N. And Goding the same with him he hath Manned him with the same (a) H.N. Prouerbs c. 8. §. 3 In his Prophecie of the Spirit he termeth himselfe Gods elected Minister (b) Proph. c. 13. §. 8. In the foresayd booke of his Prouerbs he hath these words The Lord out of his mercifull
and diuers bookes (d) Epiphan Photius that pestilent Apostata wrote very manie dscourses both in the Greeke Latine tongue (e) Vnicent Lir. aduers haeres for the propagation of his damnable doctrine Basilides that hell-hound compiled more then 24. volumes (f) Eale myst of iniquitie Appollinaris filled the whole world with his blasphemous pamphlettes (g) Basil magn And Tatianus not inferior to any of the rest not to any else except perhaps to H. N. for impietie his bookes were infinite and innumerable (h) Euseb eccles hist l. 4. c. 29. Which writings notwithstanding were not so applauded by some as they were abhorred of others nor so famous in times past among a few as they are odious now among all men neither were so read and vsed earst as they are at this time both out of sight and out of request yea and out of mind and gon as if they neuer had beene either deuised or vsed in former dayes And so we doubt not shall happen to the writings of H. N. though together they world seeme neuer so great a volume in seuerall be verie many Againe they here commend not their H. N. only for his paines and bringing forth such a volume of theologicall speculations but also for the manner of his writings For he neither tooke part with say they nor writ against any particular partie or companie whatsoeuer as naming them by their names nor yet praised or dispraised any of them by name as if to take part or write against any particular partie or ocmpanie of Heretikes Schismatikes or other vngodly persons and especially in confuting to name them were an hainous fault Little thinke these Familiars by thus and this cōmending their H. N. whom they touch as faultie that haue both taken part in a world of dissentions set themselues against Sectaries and in their writings as to all posterities eternally horrible named the authors and spreaders abroad of hellish errors by their proper names Our Sauiour Christ opposed himselfe professedly against the Pharisies and Sadduces so did the Apostle Peter against the highe Priestes and Rulers of Ierusalem so Paule against Alexander Demas Hymeneus Philetus and such like so the Euangelist Iohn against the Nicolaitans and so the true against the false Apostles Ministers and wicked persons from time to time in all ages whose both errors they haue oppugned and registred their names for an euerlasting remembrance And though this H. H. neither tooke part with nor writ against any particular partie or company whatsoeuer which ye is vntrue as afterward shal be shewen as naming them by their names a thing which lawfully and after the example euen of the best hee might haue done yet which hee cannot iustifie nor aunswere before God hee opposeth himselfe generally against all men which bee not of his fect (a) H.N. 1. Exhor c. 16 §. 2. c. whence it is that all men especially the true Church and seruantes of God are against him and his Familie Againe these Familists still ouer familiar with his Maiestie would beare his Highnesse in hand that the said H.N. in his writings doth neither praise nor dispraise any partie or companie by name which is most vntrue For hee commendeth the Church of Rome with all the orders and officers thereof tearming it The Communion of all Christians the Pope the chiefe annointed the most holy Father the Cardinalls most holy and famous and next the most auncientest and holy Father the Pope in most holy Religion and vnderstanding (b) Euang. cap. 31. §. 1.2 c. and prophecieth of an entire and perfect restauration of the papall Hierarchie (c) Ibid. §. 23. And on the other side he cōdemneth as many as out of the knowledge which they tooke out of the Scriptures as all the protestant and reformed Churches through-out the world haue done brought in certaine seruices and ceremonies in any other wise or order than the Church of Rome Appointed (c) Ibid. c. 32. § 4 He raileth on Gods Preachers and calleth them vnilluminated vnregenerated vnrenewed vngodded vnsent and I wot not what besides (d) Ibid. c. 4. §. 4 to bringe their persons ministerie and profession into vtter hatred and contempt (e) Ibid. c. 28. §. 4. Document sent c. 2. §. 2. And though in his writinges he had neither so praised as he hath done the Pope and his partakers on the one side nor dispraised and to the pit of hell condemned all Ministers and Preachers whom in scorne euerie where hee tearmeth Scripture-learned 1. Exhort c. 15. §. 17.19 yet that maketh him not a commendable writer and regardable For he is aprayser and magnifier of himselfe euerie where in his writings which is the greatest fault that can be in a man whether hee write or speake and bee his praises either true or false but elspecially if they be proudly arrogated and not deseruedly Would you heare a vaunting Bragadine Listen then vnto H. N. The Lord the God of Heauen moued Me in his Minde or Spirit saith H. N. his power incompassed Mee with a Rushing noyse and the glorie of the same God of Heauen became great in my spirite of his Loue in such wise that the great clearenesse of God wholly innironed Mee and shoane round about Mee where-through the sight of mine Eies became clearer than Chrystall and mine vnderstanding brighter than the Sunne (f) H. N. Prophet of the Spir. c. 1. §. 2. the Lorde his Being and Essence spake vnto Mee for the Being of God gaue-forth his sound and voice and spake vnto Mee H. N. through his spirit of Loue all these wordes and saide c. (g) Ibid. §. 5. Here the Essence and Being of God spake vnto him Againe I lament saith H. N. and bewaile verie much your vnfaithfulnesse and all your fainednesse wherewith yee thinke to couer you before Mee yet are neuerthelesse all the Counsailes and falshoodes of your Harts manifested before Me so much the more naked bare before the Eies of my Hart and Spirit (h) Ibid. c. 3. §. 1.2.3 Here hee braggeth that the Counsailes secrets of mans hart knowen onely vnto God are not hidden from him Many saith H. N. could much rather iudge Moses the Prophets of God together with the Apostles of Christ and God his elected Minister H. N. to erre or misse the right than that they would by any meanes confesse and acknowledge that they in the Imagination of their knowledge concerninge the godly matters are ignorant and lying (i) Ibid. c. 13. §. 8. Hee vaunteth here that hee could no more erre than could the Prophets and Apostles yea he preferreth himselfe if his wordes be well obserued before the Apostles and Prophets In his Prouerbes The God of Heauen saith H.N. (k) Chap. 8. §. 3 as the Father himselfe is come downe and He bringeth in the Seruice of his Loue Himselfe with his Christ and Holy Ghost and with all that