Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	ghost_n	holy_a	understand_v	6,901	5	6.3105	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A47361	An answer to Mr. Marlow's Appendix Wherein his arguments to prove that singing of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, was performed in the primitive church by a special or an extraordinary gift, and therefore not to be practised in these days, are examined, and clearly detected. Also some reflections on what he speaks on the word hymnos, hymnos: and on his undue quotations of divers learned men. By a learned hand. By B. Keach.	Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704.	1691 (1691)	Wing K43A; ESTC R223737	27,870	57

of_o all_o gospel-ordinance_n in_o these_o day_n ergo._fw-la that_o assertion_n be_v vile_a and_o pernicious_a the_o major_n can_v be_v deny_v the_o minor_a i_o have_v abundant_o prove_v in_o this_o treatise_n in_o sect._n 4._o you_o seem_v to_o answer_v what_o we_o say_v about_o sing_v be_v a_o moral_a duty_n which_o you_o say_v be_v the_o refuge_n of_o some_o who_o can_v maintain_v their_o practice_n of_o formal_a sing_v by_o gospel-institution_n append._n pag._n 27._o answ_n you_o mistake_v we_o need_v no_o gospel-institution_n it_o be_v as_o clear_v a_o precept_n in_o these_o scripture_n ephes_n 5._o 19_o col._n 3._o 16._o as_o any_o we_o have_v in_o the_o new-testament_n but_o we_o say_v sing_v the_o praise_n of_o god_n be_v more_o than_o a_o mere_a positive_a duty_n what_o you_o further_o say_v under_o this_o head_n do_v but_o betrary_n your_o own_o ignorance_n about_o moral_a precept_n and_o needs_o no_o answer_n i_o have_v full_o explain_v it_o in_o this_o treatise_n be_v it_o absurd_a and_o irrational_a for_o we_o to_o make_v the_o moral_a law_n or_o light_n of_o nature_n a_o rule_n to_o exert_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n see_v append._n p._n 28._o it_o be_v not_o so_o much_o the_o matter_n of_o moral_a duty_n as_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o performance_n of_o they_o that_o render_v they_o spiritual_a and_o for_o the_o more_o orderly_a and_o spiritual_a performance_n of_o such_o duty_n that_o be_v in_o their_o own_o nature_n moral_a they_o be_v bring_v under_o gospel-institution_n as_o prayer_n preach_v and_o sing_v the_o praise_n of_o god_n be_v and_o therefore_o all_o moral_a duty_n must_v be_v discharge_v by_o the_o help_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o with_o grace_n in_o the_o heart_n if_o accept_v of_o god_n in_o pag._n 33._o of_o your_o appendix_n you_o repeat_v your_o former_a objection_n against_o woman_n sing_v in_o the_o church_n because_o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o suffer_v not_o a_o woman_n to_o teach_v nor_o usurp_v authority_n over_o the_o man_n 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the_o lord_n be_v please_v to_o work_v upon_o her_o heart_n for_o i_o have_v show_v in_o that_o act_n there_o be_v much_o instruction_n nay_o it_o be_v so_o full_a of_o teach_v to_o other_o that_o what_o some_o pious_a woman_n have_v speak_v in_o the_o church_n upon_o this_o account_n god_n have_v bless_v to_o the_o conversion_n of_o sinner_n as_o well_o as_o it_o have_v refresh_v and_o sweet_o comfort_v divers_a believer_n and_o therefore_o herein_o you_o abuse_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o indeed_o be_v not_o i_o fear_v fit_a to_o be_v a_o teacher_n of_o other_o but_o to_o learn_v in_o silence_n yourself_o 2._o the_o way_n therefore_o to_o understand_v this_o as_o well_o as_o other_o scripture_n be_v to_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o main_a drift_n or_o purport_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n therein_o and_o evident_a it_o be_v the_o main_a thing_n the_o apostle_n drive_v at_o in_o both_o these_o place_n or_o do_v intend_v be_v this_o viz._n that_o woman_n ought_v 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the_o apostle_n say_v a_o friend_n in_o a_o manuscript_n do_v not_o prohibit_v all_o manner_n of_o speak_v for_o that_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 5_o 6._o where_o woman_n be_v admit_v to_o pray_v and_o prophesy_v for_o prayer_n they_o may_v say_v amen_n to_o the_o public_a prayer_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o prophesy_v they_o may_v sing_v psalm_n the_o apostle_n use_v the_o expression_n according_a to_o the_o ideum_fw-la of_o the_o jew_n 1_o sam._n 19_o 20_o 21._o 1_o sam._n 10._o 5._o they_o shall_v prophesy_v and_o for_o they_o shall_v prophesy_v the_o cald._n paraphras_n reads_z they_o shall_v sing_v and_o thou_o shall_v praise_v with_o they_o vid._n wilson_n dict._n dr._n hammond_n annotat._n on_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 5._o and_o so_o it_o be_v use_v 1_o chron._n 25._o 1_o 2_o 3._o the_o prohibition_n say_v he_o be_v not_o restrain_v only_o to_o church-assembly_n but_o hold_v good_a in_o all_o place_n and_o at_o all_o time_n and_o intend_v a_o subjection_n of_o woman_n to_o their_o husband_n as_o plain_o appear_v by_o compare_v 1_o cor._n 14._o 35._o with_o 1_o tim._n 2._o 12_o 13._o with_o the_o occasion_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o text_n and_o be_v of_o no_o great_a restraint_n now_o than_o lie_v on_o they_o under_o the_o law_n 1_o cor._n 14._o 34._o where_o they_o be_v permit_v to_o sing_v object_n but_o say_v you_o if_o we_o shall_v say_v such_o a_o vocal_a sing_v together_o be_v for_o a_o teach_v then_o where_o be_v the_o hearer_n if_o all_o be_v teacher_n etc._n etc._n appendix_n p._n 35._o answ_n we_o have_v show_v you_o sing_v be_v a_o distinct_a thing_n from_o that_o which_o be_v call_v teach_v or_o preach_v though_o in_o sing_v there_o be_v a_o teach_v but_o chief_o we_o speak_v to_o our_o own_o self_n as_o the_o apostle_n exhort_v in_o psalm_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o psalm_n or_o hymn_n be_v full_a of_o teach_v and_o admonition_n yet_o it_o be_v the_o matter_n sing_v which_o teach_v rather_o than_o the_o singer_n may_v be_v say_v to_o do_v it_o nor_o be_v it_o any_o contradiction_n to_o say_v when_o i_o teach_v other_o yet_o i_o be_o thereby_o teach_v and_o admonish_v myself_o so_o that_o if_o it_o be_v admit_v to_o be_v a_o common_a or_o ordinary_a teach_v which_o must_v not_o be_v allow_v and_o all_o may_v be_v say_v to_o teach_v etc._n etc._n yet_o nevertheless_o all_o be_v hearer_n also_o and_o be_v in_o a_o sweet_a manner_n teach_v admonish_v and_o instruct_v in_o sing_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n in_o psalm_n hymn_n and_o spiritual_a song_n as_o elsewhere_o i_o have_v show_v nor_o be_v it_o any_o contradiction_n to_o say_v according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o apostle_n woman_n must_v keep_v silence_n in_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o suffer_v they_o to_o sing_v etc._n etc._n no_o more_o than_o it_o contradict_v their_o silence_n when_o they_o speak_v at_o other_o time_n which_o they_o be_v allow_v to_o do_v in_o sect._n 6._o you_o speak_v of_o those_o prophetical_a place_n of_o the_o psalm_n etc._n etc._n urge_v by_o we_o for_o sing_v under_o the_o gospel-day_n where_o all_o the_o earth_n be_v exhort_v to_o sing_v unto_o the_o lord_n psal_n 96._o 1._o psal_n 95._o 1_o 2._o psal_n 100_o 1_o etc._n etc._n 1._o this_o you_o will_v have_v refer_v to_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n i._n e._n as_o the_o apostle_n sound_n go_v forth_o into_o all_o the_o earth_n rom._n 10._o 18._o confound_a preach_a and_o sing_v together_o one_o time_n and_o prayer_n and_o sing_v at_o another_o 2._o you_o will_v have_v it_o chief_o to_o refer_v to_o the_o seven_o thousand_o year_n of_o the_o world_n or_o reign_v of_o christ_n hint_v in_o your_o first_o part_n as_o if_o then_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o sing_v beside_o the_o essence_n of_o it_o in_o their_o spirit_n but_o if_o that_o thousand_o year_n you_o speak_v of_o shall_v be_v before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n or_o gospel-dispensation_n pray_v where_o lie_v those_o precept_n that_o will_v authorise_v they_o in_o those_o day_n to_o sing_v and_o yet_o do_v not_o authorise_v or_o warrant_v we_o to_o sing_v now_o shall_v they_o have_v a_o new_a bible_n for_o those_o time_n but_o if_o the_o precept_n for_o sing_v then_o be_v contain_v in_o our_o holy_a scripture_n and_o yet_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o we_o it_o be_v good_a for_o we_o to_o consider_v whether_o other_o precept_n write_v therein_o do_v not_o whole_o refer_v to_o those_o time_n too_o nay_o all_o ordinance_n till_o the_o spirit_n come_v down_o in_o a_o extraordinary_a manner_n and_o so_o now_o we_o must_v throw_v off_o all_o gospel-administrations_a and_o turn_v seeker_n i_o be_o sorry_a to_o see_v such_o stuff_n as_o this_o publish_v to_o the_o world_n but_o what_o i_o have_v say_v or_o cite_v from_o the_o write_n of_o other_o godly_a man_n in_o respect_n of_o those_o prophetical_a psalm_n and_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n that_o enjoin_v the_o gentile-churche_n to_o sing_v the_o praise_n of_o the_o lord_n i_o will_v have_v you_o and_o other_o consider_v well_o of_o before_o you_o write_v again_o in_o sect._n 7._o you_o heap_v up_o a_o company_n of_o confuse_a word_n to_o no_o purpose_n about_o premeditate_a matter_n for_o prayer_n to_o oppose_v premeditate_a hymn_n etc._n etc._n append._n pag._n 38_o 39_o 40_o 41_o 42_o 43_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o the_o form_n of_o prayer_n christ_n have_v leave_v we_o be_v a_o rule_n for_o we_o in_o prayer_n and_o we_o may_v premeditate_v what_o we_o intend_v to_o lay_v before_o the_o lord_n it_o appear_v from_o thence_o and_o so_o be_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n our_o general_a rule_n by_o which_o we_o must_v premeditate_v and_o precompose_v our_o spiritual_a hymn_n and_o song_n 2._o but_o prayer_n and_o singing_n differ_v the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o we_o may_v use_v other_o word_n in_o prayer_n than_o what_o we_o premeditate_a as_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n may_v help_v we_o but_o we_o be_v limit_v by_o god_n word_n to_o sing_v david_n psalm_n or_o else_o hymn_n and_o spiritual_a song_n compose_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n now_o let_v they_o be_v either_o they_o must_v be_v so_o many_o word_n and_o no_o more_o or_o else_o none_o can_v sing_v with_o he_o that_o have_v the_o hymn_n now_o we_o say_v the_o extraordinary_a influence_n for_o sing_v preach_a interpret_n etc._n etc._n be_v go_v therefore_o every_o ordinance_n must_v be_v perform_v by_o the_o ordinary_a gift_n and_o influence_n of_o the_o spirit_n or_o else_o we_o must_v have_v none_o at_o all_o be_v sing_v or_o any_o other_o ordinance_n perform_v in_o the_o gospel-day_n by_o a_o extraordinary_a spirit_n not_o perform_v then_o also_o and_o afterward_o as_o well_o and_o as_o acceptable_a to_o god_n by_o the_o ordinary_a gift_n show_v if_o you_o can_v that_o other_o ordinance_n which_o have_v such_o special_a gift_n then_o to_o attend_v they_o as_o well_o as_o sing_v do_v notwithstanding_o remain_v ordinance_n and_o yet_o sing_v of_o psalm_n and_o hymn_n do_v not_o so_o continue_v if_o therefore_o a_o man_n shall_v premeditate_v every_o word_n of_o his_o sermon_n by_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o spirit_n who_o dare_v to_o say_v he_o speak_v not_o by_o the_o help_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n or_o that_o his_o sermon_n be_v not_o part_n of_o spiritual_a worship_n it_o be_v no_o matter_n whether_o we_o have_v our_o sermon_n or_o our_o hymn_n mediate_o or_o immediate_o compose_v and_o bring_v forth_o provide_v they_o be_v spiritual_a and_o do_v by_o the_o help_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o to_o close_v all_o be_v not_o david_n psalm_n part_v of_o spiritual_a worship_n and_o be_v not_o the_o church_n exhort_v to_o sing_v they_o in_o sect._n 8._o appendix_n pag._n 43_o 44_o etc._n etc

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