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A28899	A defence of the Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit speaking in them, as the chiefe iudge of controversies of faith ... with a vindication of that honour due to magistrates, ministers, and others ... in a relation of a disputation at Chesterfield in the county of Darby, between some ministers of the Gospell and James Naylor, an erring Quaker ... : with some animadversions upon a lying relation of that disputation, published by Iames Nayler / by Immanuel Bourne ...	Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672.	1656 (1656)	Wing B3852; ESTC R23281	45,977	64

and holiness and by our own good conversation 1 Pet. 2.15 put to silence the scandals of malicious the ignorance of foolish men that God wil give repentance free pardon in Christ to all our Adversaries who complain of us as contentious because though after long sufferings we seeke in a just and lawfull way to recover our due and just Rights which they unjustly detaine from us desiring if it be the will of God that they may obtaine salvation in the Lord Jesus and be delivered from wrath to come and that one day they may enjoy a happy and peaceable communion with us in glory and to conclude daily powring out my soule to God That the Lord the great Protector of Sion will be pleased to preserve his Highness and Honourable Councell and you my Honourable Lords and the rest of the Honourable Judges Justices Magistrates and other Worthies who are Actors for Piety and Peace to Gods glory and the benefit of these Nations together with this whole Common wealth in Truth Unity and Peace long to continue Most humbly subscribing my selfe Your Honours daily Oratour at the Throne of Grace Immanuel Bourne Pastor of the Church in Ashover London Feb. 26. 1655. A Defence of the Scriptures and of the Holy Spirit of God speaking in them as the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith c. In a Disputation at Chesterfield in the County of Darby Jan. 3. 1654. FIrst when the Ministers came to the Church or Meeting House-yard Iames Nayler was there with his company but seemed unwilling to goe into the Church or Church-House yet at last went into the lower end and stood there But when Mr Billingsley Minister of Chesterfield began with praier to God for a blessing upon the meeting Nayler and his fellowes went forth againe pretending some plot might be against them But after praier assurance given there was none they came in againe Secondly Mr John Billingsley began to read the Questions But after Nayler read them in the Paper sent to him as I take it and then began to read his Answer in writing and when he had read his Answer to the first Question it was desired that that Question and his Answer to that might be first Argued and so the rest afterwards in order Question 1 The first Question was Whether the Spirit of God speaking in the Scriptures bee the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith Mr Bourne shewed Nayler the Bible and asked him if he would owne that as Gods word he answered part of it or to that effect First For the state of the Question By the Spirit was meant the Spirit of God 1 Iohn 5.7 the third Person in Trinity one with the Father and the Sonne Secondly by the Scriptures the Canonicall books of the Old and New Testament Thirdly By the Spirit of God speaking in the Scriptures that voice or speaking forth of Gods Spirit recorded in Scripture which is there now to be found so whether the holy Scriptures or Spirit in them be judg This state was not so fully opened by reason of disturbance even in the entrance Nayler endeavouring to avoid this Question Naylers Answer Nayler in his Answer owned the Spirit that did speake in the holy men who gave forth the holy Scriptures to be Judge and said that Spirit was Judge before the Letter was written and all Controversies were judged by that Spirit but hee did not owne that Spirit that doth now speak in the Scriptures Hee said hee granted the Spirit was Judge and would have avoided the Question Mr Bournes Reply But Mr Bourne pressed to go on with the Question and affirmed it was one thing to say the Spirit that did speake in the holy men that gave out the Scriptures was Judge and another to say the Spirit of God speaking in the Scriptures was Judge or that the holy Scripture was Judge Therefore pressed to go on with the Question and began as I remember with this Reason Mr Bourns 1 Argument Whatsoever was and is the speaking forth of the Holy Ghost himselfe that was and is the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith but the holy Scriptures are the speaking forth of the holy Spirit himselfe therefore they are the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith The first proposition was not denied and the second was proved Acts 1.16 the Scripture which the holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake concerning Judas Here it is evident what Scriptures David writ or spake by writing that the Holy Ghost spake Therefore the holy Scripture is the speaking forth of the Holy Ghost and so judge of Controversies The same again witnessed by the Spirit Acts 28.25 wel spake the Holy Ghost by the mouth of Isaias the Prophet saying c. Here you see the Holy Ghost is witnessed by the Apostle Paul to speak by the mouth of Isaias and that Scripture which Isaiah writ was the speaking forth of the Holy Ghost and so the supreme Judge of Controversies c. Naylers Answer Nayler gave no direct answer but he wrangled and said he did owne the Spirit to be Judge but not the written word or to that effect and that the Spirit did speak not in the dead but in the living which was as I did understand him not in the dead letter of the Scripture but in living men and vapoured as if he had said much but yet would have avoided the Question as needlesse to be further disputed on since he did yield the Spirit to be Judge although he denyed that the Spirit speaking in Scripture was the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith But Mr Bourn went on to press another Argument Mr Bourns 2 Argument Whatsoever Christ himselfe did appeale unto as to a chiefe Judge and send his hearers unto as to a chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith that is and ought to be esteem'd the chief Judge of Controversies of Faith But Christ himselfe appealed to the Scriptures and sent his hearers to the Scriptures as to the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith therefore the holy Scriptures are the chiefe Judge of Controversies of Faith The first not denyed the second witnessed by the Spirit in John 5.39 in that great controversie of Faith whether Christ were the Sonne of God or equall with God Christ appeales to the Scriptures Search the Scriptures for in them you thinke to have eternall life and they are they that testifie of me therefore the Scriptures are the chiefe Judge Naylers Answer Nayler did not give any answer to satisfie the Argument but said still the Spirit was the Judge not the written word and cried out liar liar hold thy peace the Spirit is Judge not the written word Mr Bourne bad him yield the Question since Christ himselfe appealed to the Scriptures But he cried out and one of his fellow Quakers away lyar the Spirit is Judge Mr Bourn replied The Spirit is Judge but not the Spirit speaking in any man but the Spirit speaking in the Scriptures and pressed

have no light in them then all men have not a light within them sufficient to direct them to attaine salvation But there are some men that have no light in them witness the Prophet Isaiah chap. 8.20 To the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this rule it is because there is no light in them Therefore all men have not a light within them sufficient to direct them to attaine salvation Naylers Answer James Nayler vapoured and said that place made most against us But he gave no answer to shew how that place did make against us but cryed out all are enlightned by Christ and that light of Christ is in them all lyars lyars all are enlightned Thus in a proud contemptuous manner did Nayler behave himselfe and as his manner was when hee could not answer turned aside and talked to those that were about him and at last affirmed againe that all had a light within them sufficient to guide them to attaine salvation Naylers Argument because Christ said to the Pharisees Luke 17.21 The Kingdome of God is within you in you Pharisees and therefore in all and so the Kingdome of God being in all all are sufficiently enlightned to direct them to attaine salvation Mr Bournes Answer To which Answer was given to this effect That the Kingdome of God is taken diversly in the holy Scriptures 1. For the Kingdome of Gods power which is Gods soveraignty over all the world and this Kingdome of God is in every creature and in and over every man in the world he sets up and puls downe 1 Sam. 2.6 7 8 c. Dan. 4.30 c. kils and maketh alive at his pleasure and ruleth and over-ruleth all when and how he will and this Kingdome of God was in the Pharisees as in all men whatsoever 2. The Kingdome of God is taken for the Kingdome of Gods Grace and this diversly taken also First for the outward administration of the comming and Kingdome of the Messiah Christ Jesus in the Gospell of which the Pharisees questioned Christ in that place Luke 17. Luke 17.20 Gen. 49.10 demanding when the Kingdome of God should come that is the Kingdome of the Messiah which was prophecied and promised should come Psal 2. Psal 45.6 7. Luke 2.25 26. and which the Saints and people of God did expect and waite for And John the Baptist the forerunner of Christ told the people this Kingdome was at hand This Kingdome is called the Kingdome of Heaven Mat. 3.2 Mat. 13.24 44. Acts 1.3 and it is taken for the Gospel and Gospel Administrations and this Kingdome and comming of Christ this King not only the Scribes and Pharisees Luke 24.21 but some of the Disciples did think should come in outward pompe and power to deliver the Jewes from the tyranny of the Romans under whom they were tributaries But Christ giveth them answer in that 20 verse Luke 17 20. The Kingdome of Christ the Messiah which they enquired after commeth not with observation or with outward pompe but saith Christ the Kingdome of God is within you not individually or personally as if the Kingdome of heaven the Gospell and Christ the Messiah had been in every one of them particularly or in every Pharisee but collectively or as they were a company of Pharisees or people of the Jewes The Kingdome of God is within you or rather amongst you as the Greek word is well translated in the margin of our Bibles in that place And thus Expositors agree ye seeke the Messiah as if hee were absent when hee is in the middest of you Beza upon the Text. P●scator on that place Thus Passor Iex con c. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in medio vestri intra gentem vestram within your nation saith Beza And Piscator The Kingdome of God is in the middest of you in the bosome of your Nation The Kingdome of God is within you understand it not as every one is looked upon by and in himselfe but as one body of many people collected or joined together in one body or Nation And the Kingdome of God in this sence was in and amongst the Pharisees and people to whom Christ did preach at that time Againe the Kingdome of Grace is taken for the gifts and Graces of the Kingdome or which Christ the King giveth to his subjects and servants and by his Spirit worketh in them as Knowledge Faith Love Righteousness Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost and such like inward spirituall Riches and Graces of the spirit by which God doth rule and reigne in the heats of his children and this Kingdome is in Gods Elect his chosen and faithfull and called ones Rev. 17.14 not only amongst them but in them but this Kingdome or these graces of the Kingdome of Christ the Messiah and Christs Spirit was not in the Pharisees to whom Christ did preach though it was amongst them in such as were true beleevers Gods faithfull servants This Answer was delivered far shorter but to this effect and purpose Naylers Reply But Nayler according to his accustomed manner cried out lyars lyars it is false Christ speaketh of the Kingdome of Grace and that was in the Pharisees and so in all and all have a light in them to which they may look as sufficient to guide them to Salvation or to that effect Mr Bournes Reply Mr Bourne did Reply Iohn 3.1 Iohn 19.38 39 that some of the Pharisees may be were beleevers as Nicodemus who came to Jesus by night and was at cost with Joseph of Arimathea at the buriall of Christ who was a Disciple though secretly for feare of the Jewes And if this Kingdome of Grace was in any of the Pharisees they must be such as were beleevers for other wise in unbeleevers and wicked Pharisees who kept men to their power from confessing of Christ to be the Messiah Iohn 12.42 in them Christ was not nor the Kingdome nor the graces of Christs Kingdome For in unbeleevers where sinne ruleth and reigneth in their mortall bodies and they obey it in the lusts thereof there or in their soules Rom. 6.12 16. the Kingdome of Grace is not for Christ and sinne cannot reign both together in one soule This answer was shorter likewise but to this intent Naylers Reply But Nayler would not yield the Question for all this but told the people the Kingdome of God was in the Pharisees and we were lyars that denied it Mr Maud●sl●y's Question Mr Maudesley if my memory did not faile me or some one neer him asked Nayler what Kingdome that was which Christ spake of after his resurrection Acts 1. Acts. 1.3 He was seen of them forty daies speaking of the things pertaining to the Kingdome of God Naylers Reply Nayler did not answer what that Kingdome was but said Christ was not seene after his Ascension In which Nayler did mistake Answer for it was not after Christs Ascension but after his