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A59958 William Penn and the Quakers either impostors, or apostates which they please: proved from their avowed principles, and contrary practices. By Trepidantium Malleus. Shewen, William, 1631?-1695. 1696 (1696) Wing S3427A; ESTC R221166 53,999 145

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a better diversion to shake off Melancholly THou scoffing persecuting Ishmael thou blaspheming Devil thou Limb of Antichrist I testify to thee in the Name that thou hast belied the People called Quakers yea I say unto thee the People called Quakers hast thou belyed They are an innocent people and to that do I bear witness Therefore thou Devils Bloodhound thou Thief and Robber that never didst come in at the door but didst climb up some other way Thus saith Thou art not able to judge for thou art blind Thou Beast thou Sot thou Incarnate Devil I am full of Zeal yea with Zeal I am filled ready to burst in testifying against thee thou scarlet-colour'd Beast thou canker'd Apostate thou Son of Belial Thou greedy Wolf in Sheeps Cloathing thou Dog thou dumb Dog thou barking Dog thou Emissary of Satan thou Beelzebub the Chief of Devils Repent and know that this People whom thou hatest and dost not love are dear precious ones To this will I set my Seal and do I bear witness Hear O thou Serpent fiery Serpent biting hissing Serpent thou unclean Spirit thou Devil-driven Sot I am sent to thee to declare against thee I am sent as Mary Fisher was to the great Turk who could speak nothing but English when she came to him as honest Friend G. Bishop is forced to confess in his New-England tryed Now I speak to thee in the same Language she did to him If any of you intend thus to set upon me I wish it may be when I am so costive that no other Physick would make me soluble I am sorry for the Dishonour that such bring to Religion and the Wrong they do themselves and the scandal they give to the Prophane but as for me I find nothing more easy than to forgive them pity them and love the Men though not the Quakers I must despair of understanding any thing or of proving any thing if in this little Book I have not sufficiently proved and that ex abundanti That William Penn and the Quakers are either Impostors or Apostates which they please from their Avowed Principles and Contrary Practices BUT methinks I hear some say We see what it is for men to talk of the Spirit which is nothing else but a warm Fancy following a deluded Judgment What may we think of Prophets of old and their Inspirations and Prophecies so much talk'd off We doubt all were such as these of the Quakers Stop Reader if these thoughts be in thee let us reason together Though I doubt not but that this giddy People have contributed very much to the increase of Scepticism and Atheism and Contempt of Religion Yet why Because there is so much bad Coin adulterate Coin Case-Pieces Clipp'd-Money is there therefore no Good Money or Money of full Weight Is it all alike Because there is so much False News going and so many Mistakes and idle Stories pass for Truth is there therefore no True News or True Relation of things Because we are so often mistaken in men who are often said to be good-natur'd wise and pious whom in our nigh approaches to them we find ill temper'd half-witted and scandalous are there therefore no good-natur'd no wise no pious Men in the World To talk of the Spirit is a Cant among some Men almost a Community of Men who own Scripture and read Lessons out of it They will talk of God and of Christ but nothing or next to nothing of the Spirit I desire them to read Neh. 9.20 Thou gavest also thy good Spirit to instruct them 2 Cor. 1.22 Who hath given the earnest of the spirit in our hearts Rom. 8.9 He that hath not the spirit of Christ is none of his John 3.5 6 8. Except a man be born of water and of the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God That which is born of the Spirit is spirit Rom. 8.16 The spirit it self beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God Psalm 51.11 After David sinn'd so foully he prays Take not thy holy spirit from me Consider their abuse of such Phrases should not take us off from the use of them Because the Papist have abused the words of Christ This is my Body by their monstrous Doctrine of Transubstantiation and so to worship a Wafer for a God we are not therefore to deny the Bread the honourable Name Christ gave it The Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is not so call'd from his Essence and Nature for so we might as well say The Holy Father or the Holy Son as the Holy Ghost but from his Office Whom the Father elects the Son redeems and the Holy Ghost sanctifies and makes holy Now a skilful Physician is not to be despised ridiculed because of some Quacks nor a good Lawyer because of some ignorant Pretenders nor a Spiritual Man because of some sensless vain Talkers of the Spirit Though I have written more already than I intended when I begun yet give me leave to add some Directions to cure this Malady which we find occasion'd for want of these things you are now prest to and that our Perfectionists little mind Direction 1. 1. Keep up a due Veneration for the Scriptures and their Authority He that cannot see a God one would think could see nothing Infinity and Eternity must be lodged in somewhat Some Cogitative Being which word with Mr. Lock I like better than Intelligent suited means to end Read him in that excellent Chapter of Human Vnderstanding Mr. Perkins's Cases of Conscience of the Being of God Is the Soul of Man made for God to serve and injoy him Not to say any thing of the Reflex Acts of the Soul That Matter cannot act on it self The tip of my finger that toucheth thousands of things cannot return upon it self touch it self But my Understanding that understands other things reflects on it self and understands it self and therefore the Spirit of a Man is not as the Spirit of a Beast The Poet could say Sanctius his animal mentisque capacius altae Pronaque cum spectant No Creature but Man can turn up his eyes to Heaven for Man hath a Muscle more than they to help to look up to God Doth it not convince you Good Readers as well as this Pagan Ovid Met. That though Man was made in this world yet not for it Are not some men designed for the Recovery of the Lost Love and Favour of God That is hoped by all What then will follow That there must be some Rule whereby Man may know this God and serve him Now this must be either by Revelation or there must be some standing written Rule The former we see is gone and our giddy Pretenders to it prove it Therefore the latter Then say I The Scriptures must be the standing Rule or some other thing But no other thing Therefore the Scriptures If any thing What is it Mahomet's Alcoran I need not confute it None plead for it Nay It is worthy observation
Bishop that false deceitful vile Corrupter and Abuser of History c. What were the Titles of the Books Who were the Authors He could not afterwards tell me This Friend of his told me very soberly and calmly That if the Charge against the Quakers of leaving their Meetings in a time of Persecution were true for which they condemned us I had a just Charge against them and they ought to give me satisfaction No Book meddles with these Questions The next morning I sent him another Letter and told him what Excuses I had heard why he would not meet with me which he knew not to be true that I did believe he knew no Reply could be given and therefore declined it and that he had as good tell me so in plain words as thus practically and by interpretation I had promised him if he could give me a satisfactory rational Answer to my Queries I would turn Quaker but not till then And that I had some more Questions to propose to him about which I desired his sober Consideration and that I challenged him to a publick Disputation about them Question 5. Whether it were not great Folly or worse to say That bowing to a man was Idolatry a Breach of the second Commandment a Sin which rather than Mordecai would commit he would run a Risk for his own Life and the Lives of all the Jews and yet after all this Harangue turn this Custom of bowing to men into a common Practice When we were reasoning with them once Did not Abraham bow to the Children of Heth c They would reply If Abraham were satisfied in it we are not following Scripture-Examples hath undone the world and yet of late years they observe that civil decent Ceremony By the way Reader give me leave to tell a pleasant though plain Story I knew two Grave Learned Divines who parting bowed one to another A zealous Quaker in a great Fury runs to them and said to one of them a facetious man Dost thou not know it is written Thou shalt not bow down The Minister looking on this ignorant impudent Fool with Contempt said to him Dost thou not bow down when thou dost Sh The Quaker replies Thou art a Beast to talk so And said the Minister Thou art a veryer Beast if thou dost not do so Nay Priest said he why talkest thou like a Beast Why said be quotest thou Scripture like a Devil alluding to that Scripture where the Devil setting on Christ cites Scripture of Angels preserving men that they hurt not their feet against the stones but left out in all thy ways Mat. 4.6 So the Quaker names Thou shalt not bow down but left out to graven Images Question 5. Whether it were not unheard-of Dissimulation to tell Oliver Cromwell Thus saith the Lord I have put the Sword into thy hand to to destroy Idolaters the Stuarts and Ma●nants And yet after all to tell K● Charles II. That all this was Rebellion 〈◊〉 that they gave their Testimony against the m● ther of his Father What George Fox and Burroughs did well known He that would fully und●stand this wickedness let him read a li●● Tract done by a curious hand call'd 〈◊〉 Snake in the Grass The best Thing t● ever was written on this Subject 〈◊〉 Pennyman's Papers once a Quaker w● hath out of their Authors shewn h● they always shuffled Principles about ●vernment Scriptures Ministers c. Question 7. Whether it were not great wicked● to pretend to Inspiration Infallibility P● phecies Miracles and yet expound so 〈◊〉 congruous and contrary to Scripture As Pen and I heard George Whitehead to in Bristol on Prov. 9.1 4. Wisdom h● built her a house She cryeth Whose simple let him turn in hither and for 〈◊〉 that is void of understanding A sim●● thing said he is a thing unmixt pure So he that is Holy h●th no Sin Now ●hough the latter part of the Verse explains the former yet this mighty man of theirs that hath printed so many large Books could not see it Besides though the word Simple be an equivocal word in English yet not so in Hebrew for here it fignifieth foolish That a Quaker about a year since in Cullington prophesied from the Lord All Women that are with Child this Year shall die in Childbirth which was far from being true though some in that Case were in great fear If this cost any of them their Lives I cannot contradict it if any should say that this false Prophet deserved to die as much as any Thief or High way-man whatever Reader know these men condemned all Human Literature and asserted Inspiration But can the Spirit in a Quaker contradict the Spirit in the Scripture They say That as if a man speak through a Cane it is not the voice of the Cane though it pass through it but the voice of the Man So it is not the voice of the Quaker but the voice of the Spirit I needed no more to prove them Deceivers but hearing them Yea some have p●● tended to Miracles One came into a House where a Chillay dead and said to the People Weep no the Child is not dead but sleepeth And i● imitation of the Prophet 2 Kings 4.3 Stretcht her self on the Child saying In 〈◊〉 Name of Jesus of Nazareth arise I suppose Reader I need not tell thee that th● Soul of the Child returned not to it again● A Story well known and by whon● among Bristol Friends A Quaker told me that it was said George Fox could by Inspiration speak a● Languages where the Lord sent him an● restored a Man to Life who broke hi● Neck Impudent Falshoods I knew a Woman about 22 years since who must fast 40 days and 40 nights b●● soon died and would have eat but cou● not L S of Bristol before named asserted he was as much Inspired as wa● the Prophet yea as Balaam's Ass Thi● Inspired Ass after a continued idle Life fell ill of the Diabetes by drinking alway● Red-streak Cyder When on his Death Bed he said to his Physician Dr. Griffin who told me the Story I shall not die ● shall be in such a place by such a day If should now die the Lord would reveal it to me But the Fool soon turn'd up his Trotters and died The Spirit say they is Infallible What then doth it make us so God is Omnipotent Omnisicient doth he make us so This L S the Inspired Ass once found out a notable place of Scripture for taking away Baptism and the Lord's Supper Isa 3.1 For behold the Lord takes away the stay of bread There is the Supper said he and of Water there is Baptism as honest Mr. Blinman a Minister had it from him and told me the Story Now who would talk with such profane Wretches thus playing with Scripture AFter this I receiv'd a Letter from William Penn who told me That he had consulted some Bristol Friends and they told him I was a Hot-headed man and a Persecutor
our selves more than him Thus he that pretends to exalt the Love of God hath debased it above all men I hope some learned Bishop or Clergy-man will soon take this conceited Man and cut him up and send him to the Tribes in Israel with a see consider and speak your minds who hath asserted that the Quakers Cause calls for their most Learned Pens and they may triumph in the Victory if they get it The Quakers ignorance discovers it self on all occasions G. Fox would call Preachers Conjurers But to do him right he was none as all know that read his Books or heard him talk George Whitehead that hath writ so much is a Notorious Dunce as proved before Mr. Speed Mr. Vickris of Bristol never speak among them who are Men of Parts and Sense I will imitate the Quakers way of speaking and judge what if you heard such stuff as this though sometimes better in their greater Meetings where contrary to their first Principles many of them forbid Womens speaking or the speaking of Nonsensical Fools that talk at this or the like rate Frunds I am moved by the to speak unto you though I know not what I shall say Noah was a Perfect Man yet some say Men cannot be Perfect or without Sin yet Noah was so and his Son Cham was Cursed for uncovering his Father's nakedness when drunk Judas was the Traytor and bore the Bag and cared not for the Poor It is said he that taketh Kirjah Sepher Now that is the Spirit of the Book Now look Fru●ds the Heart is the Book and the Spirit is the Light within It is said indeed I forbid a Woman to speak in the Church but the Priests are in the dark mind and understand it not by the Woman is meant the Flesh and by the Husband is meant the Devil but they in the Witchcraft cannot see it but I say look to the Light within you Frunds If you have motions to a Woman and do not do the act or desire to take another Man's goods and do not do it you Sin not Mary Fisher had leave from the Lord to go fro● New-England to save her life when other● had not Now they used carnal Weapon● Paul said These hands have ministred to ● necessities And whatsoever doth mak● manifest is Light Now we abhor th● Papist Transubsistation and Infannibility and many things be taken figuratel● When I shoed a Horse the other day th● Horse went the better so you if you lo●● to the Light within you ah the pure Ligh● The Priests use Heathenish words such a● be not in Scripture as Sacrament c. Th● word of the is come upon m● I am to read a Letter from Friend F. o● P. though we read not Scripture th● was of old yet we may what comes fro● the pure streams One came to me 〈◊〉 know where John Steeplehouseman dwel● whom he prophanely call'd Mr. Chur●● man but I bid him defiance for Wo●shipping the Beast They say if you 〈◊〉 Persecuted from one City flee to anoth●● But these Hell-hounds understand no● they be Baals Priests Hirelings a Gene●tion of Vipers for it is revealed unto 〈◊〉 Flee to another is to the City Heave● O Frunds flee there flee there Frund There is none that doeth good they say 〈◊〉 not one but David said after O that the salvation of Israel were come out of Sion The Priests say this world shall in time end but they be in the dark and make Solomon a Lyar who sayeth yea he sayeth One generation passeth away and another cometh but the earth abideth for ever now mark Frunds what abides for ever shall never end but they be Sorcerers Wolves in Sheeps cloathing They say That when the outward fleshly Christ was Crucified the vale of the Temple was rent in twain and the Rocks rent and the Graves were opened But they be blind Guides that lead the blind and so both fall into the Ditch I am moved to tell you Frunds and now the two thumbs must be put against the Breasts that this is meant Mens Hearts were torn Hearts as hard as Rocks what think you Doth the Scripture tell you of outward Temples and outward Books Do not F●unds strike any one after the manner of Men for Paul saith Lay hands suddenly on no man The world is angry if we Honour them not by putting off our upper Covering and say Thee to them but abide you in the Light c. They talk much of Paul's Epistles But what do they tell us of the Epistles of Apostatizing Jews And they talk of Abraham's Faith we must be better than they in their day They tel● us what David and what the Apostles did 〈◊〉 but being led by Example hath undon● the world Now my Frunds the People of God of old were Quakers Mose● was a Quaker for he said I exceedingly quake and fear and Habakkuk was a Quaker for his lips quivered yea they were all Quakers for they taught Righteousness which is the very Principle of the Quakers yea I say so do the Quakers say● Now the world saith That the Body of Christ is gone to Heaven but it turned to the dust They say the Scriptures be Gold's Word but they lie they be dirt Serpent's meat some Frunds threw their Bibles into the fire and they perished and therefore are not God's word Frunds It is often said and truly the Scripture● and the Body of Christ be the Two great Harlots that have deceived the world many things in Scripture are evil in on● place Circumcision is commanded in another place forbidden c. That such and worse Speeches have been made in thousands of their Assemblies 〈◊〉 doubt not and I am ready to give an account of the things as their assertions that I have read in their Books or heard in hearing them or talking with them Because many are decoyed by the Quakers mode of Speaking as most agreeable to Scripture as Thou to a Single Person not you which word we use Thou not You to God I will consider it We are no more bound to Scripture modes of communication than to Scripture dresses and because many many weak ones are deceived by these specious pretences I will plead this case Bildad said to Job only 18. Job 1 2 3. How long will it be ere You make an end of words How long shall we appear vile in your sight for be teareth Why may I not say You to one as well as Thou to many When God delivered the Law on Mount Sinai Thou shalt not kill Spoke he not to Thousands We borrow this from the French Vouz for they have no other word to a single Person we took You from it We despise not the word Thee to a King as they often say in all cases he that Marrieth him to his Queen saith Wilt thou have this Woman He that gives him the Lords Supper saith The Body of Christ given for Thee preserve thy Body and Soul What if men agree such a word
shall signifie such a thing is not that sufficient Quem penes arbitrium est jus norma lequendi Barclay's Objection is vain What if Apol says he a ●cholar should say to his Master Vos amas Vos legis I say we put the Verb al 's in the plural number in English we say not You lovest you readest but You love you read I put it to their Conscience Is it Sinful thus to speak If not Why then trouble they the world about nothing I am not willing to run out much into other things that many have written well of Read Faldo's Quakerism no Christianity who hath done his work like a Workman and the aforementioned Tract which will commend it self and to which little need be added And now tell me Reader What thinkest thou Was there ever such a giddy Generation upon Earth As great Apostates from Reason most of them are as from Religion It is true some few Men among them have shap'd their Notions for them and made them more intelligible than once they were When such a Question as this hath been under Consideration Whether it were Lawful for their Women to Speak in their Meetings I have been Answer'd That Jesus Christ was Crucified and that the Priests accused him and Pilate condemned him c. I remember I have read Where dost thou read thou Hireling that ever any of God's Messengers stood on a Carnal Pulpit When that Scripture hath been urged 8. Nehem. 4. And Ezra stood on a pulpit of wood and read the law and gave the sense the Answer hath been What hast thou to do with Ezra Ezra was a Holy Man and thou art an Hypocrite Or when the Question hath been about Swearing and that Scripture hath been urged 10. Rev. 6. The Angel swore by him that liveth for ever and ever Time should be no more the Answer hath been But to which of the Angels said he at any time Thou art my Son to day have I begotten thee Some say That Ministers must not be paid because it was said The Priests bear rule by their Meant 5. Jer. 31. That Ministers must not use helps in Reading for Paul would not meddle in another man's Line Some have asked one another Hast thou experienced that Scripture in thee The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood The Answer hath been Yea The Spirit was in them and the Spirit was not to be tried by any thing Scripture nor Man's Reason So that a Man had almost as good go into Bedlam and talk with the Wise Men there as with many of our Inspired Quakers I advise any that engage with them to get a Promise of Two things 1. To end one Argument before entrance be made on another 2. To have as much time allowed you to speak as you allow them So have I understood some of them and there hath been some coherence or consistency in our discourse When they have multiplied words and crack'd many of them and run on to things nothing to the Question they go away and say That such Ministers could not say a word to them or could not resist the Spirit by which they spake that a She Friend should silence any Priest of them all though they have talk'd such prodigious Nonsense that might make any Man sweat to hear them If I knew such glorious nonsense among their Leaders by my little and yet too much converse with them I may easily imagine how much they that hear them often meet with such triflings May what I have said be an Amulet to prevent infection from their poisonous Doctrines especially such as are incompatible with true Grace As the Doctrine of Perfection of a Christ within in opposition to a Christ without This word Outward is in great Contempt with them The outward word the Scriptures the Outward Christ Christ Crucified and some an Outward Heaven that Glorious State above Baptism and the Lord's Supper were Outward Ordinances But why do not these Men Contemn Outward Meats and Outward Drink● and Outward Cloathing If they did the Controversie would soon be at an end And now William Penn I once more declare to thee and all the world that I am ready to meet with thee at an open Disputation when thou wilt to de●●te the Questions before us or the main Question which is this Whether your putting in practice our Principles by you condemned as you say from the Lord in the time of Persecution doth not most certainly and evidently prove you to be either Notorious Impostors or Notorious Apostates There is nothing more evident to me and I suppose to thee that so it is Then is the Mask fall'n off thy Forehead and let me ask thee or rather thou thy Conscience a few Questions Question 1. Art thou not ashamed to hear Folly Falsehood Ignorance father'd on the Holy Spirit by thy Followers Question 2. Dost not thou frequently do what they condemn us for use Philosophical Terms and Distinctions in thy Writings which they say is from the Serpent Question 3. Couldst thou understand any Physician or Lawyer speaking of Physick or Law in that way these do of Religion Here for a diversion will I present thee with a Paper given me above twenty years since and which lately I saw in Print and tell me how much like hath been the old common way of the talk of our Perfectionists A Welsh Letter Good Cousin A Coording to my promise I am to let you understand the unkind dealing of Edward towards Marmaduke when Thomas was arrested by Henry at the Suit of Leonard Charles came in with Robert to entreat Richard to go to John to certify William who was sorry that Jeffery had been at variance with Anthony considering that Matthew had done so much for Bartholomew when old Father Timothy was contented to take wrong of Gregory notwithstanding his Kinsman Ralph was abused by Rowland sending for James without the consent of Cuthbert when Edmond for the love he bore to Silvester gave warning to Hugh that in case George should make much of his Vncle Peter little thinking that Simon had play'd the knave with Nicholas in causing of Walter to give Clement knowledge how that Martyn had invited Humphrey to Bernard 's house to Breakfast Now cunning Roger perceiving by Godfrey what was told by slie Ambrose that if Alexander was not reveng'd upon Lawrence for the Love that he bare to Oliver whereas Erasmus had it not been for Jarvase had like to have slain Nathanael which Jasper perceiving had certified Luke that Tell-tale Francis was the cause of all their falling out and all this was for Adam 's White Nag which was left in Erastus 's Stable by Andrew and because Hopping Giles would not believe him without Philip would bring him some money whereupon Barnaby and Christopher sent for Arthur who by the help of Felix brought the same to a general Conclusion and was thus ended VALE St. Taff'y's Day I declare such kind of
Harangues have I often heard from the Quakers as incoherent and unintelligible and so have many others which makes us weary of conversing with some of them who after all triumph for Victory Would not such a profound Speech stun the wisest Judge that ever sat on the Bench And might not the Welchman say after all Her had baffled Her so that Her had not one word to say to Her not being able to remember no nor understand what her said And now William Penn not to convince thee for I think thou art convinced already of the madness of this People for Blaspheming the Name of the Lord for Railing for Incoherencies for vain Predictions I will suppose any of us should accost thee as the Quakers do us many a time Wouldst thou not say We were so far from being Christians that we had forfeited the Name of Men I shall leave out the words after Thus saith the Eternal God Living God the Lord. Let none be offended if their Folly be thus display'd Suppose I should thus say FRiend For this is the Name by which you speak one to another and Christ to Judas the Traytor the Son of Perdition thy elder Brother and to no single Person but to him I say by the same Figure Christ said to Judas Friend Penn though I and others have taken pains to intellectuate and prudentiate thee yet all in vain Bray thee in a Mortar thy Folly will not depart from thee and therefore in the Bowed-downess of my mind I do declare unto thee Thou hast Unreligion'd thy self Thou Croaking Frog of Egypt Thou Babylenish Brat Thou goest up and down the world in the pride of thy heart O Lucifer Son of the Morning Where are all thy mortified Self-denying Garments that Friends of Old went up and down with Thou who art of many years in the world hast lately gone after Flesh Young Flesh Yea I say unto thee Very Young Flesh And because thy mind hath thus stray'd after the Visibles I bear my Testimony against thee Thou art yet in the Carnal Mind This is the word of to Thee Repent Repent For thou lovest the Things of the world yea the things of the world dost thou love William Penn hear O William Penn I testify to thee in the Name that because thou haft loved the Man pull'd down and contrived yea hatched mischief against the Man set up Thou shalt die this year because thou hast committed Rebellion for which thou Friend deservest now the Captivity of the outward Tabernacle so one Quaker lately wrote to another that lived four years after Now thou Serpent thou Deceiver thou Scarlet-Whore that fittest upon many Waters What if all thy Converses with Jesuites and Popish Enemies to WILLIAM the King were written in thy Forehead where yea where wouldst thou hide thy impudent Face thy brazen Face thy iron Forehead Friend William it is a great Principle and common Saying among you That what you once hold you always hold for the Spirit is the same and it dictates the same but in this thou liest Thou art changed in many things yea thou art fallen Thou Apostate Thou Conjurer my Spirit testifieth to thee in the Name that thou art full of all Subtilty the Child of the Devil one of his Imps if thou sayest I speak not the Truth I know I do it by the Light within me the infallible Testimony And I know I have stab'd thy Doctrine to the heart for so it is revealed unto me yea to me is it revealed As I was looking yea as these fleshly Eyes of mine were looking I saw thee in thy fine Attire and Things of this World And I looked and beheld and lo thou wert much like to the Sons of Men the Children of Men Thou art an Offence unto me c. PArdon me you that read this for I declare at this rate do many of the Quakers whom Penn owns as Inspired speak sometimes to the best Men Ministers and Christians and so have they written Now what mad Discourse would this be and worse should I so apply my self to him But if William Penn should die this year then were I a famous Prophet But if he should not die not a word must be said of it or some other sense must be put on the words And now I humbly beseech and intreat all that are serious in and zealous for the Protestant Religion to consider whether their Time and Parts and Zeal used one against another who are sound in the Fundamentals of Religion and so Brethren were not better used against the Quakers who have crafed the Foundation of Christianity and so are the worst of Hereticks The design of the Holy Scripture is to bring man to the sense of two things 1. His own vileness deficiency in the best of his Duties his imperfect state when in his Zenith for Wisdom and the love of God O how much do we debase the most High in our apprehensions of him when they are most refin'd and rais'd How imperfect is our Love to God and Christ when most flaming What an infinite disproportion is there between our Love and its Object What if our wandring Thoughts in the heart in Prayer or other good Duties should or must have vent through the mouth and gush out into words how should we flee from one another or whither should we go Thoughts are before God what Words are before men How fail the best in Principles and Ends Humble Nehemiah when zealous against Prophaners of the Sabbath 13. Nehem. 22. Spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy The Quakers disdain thus to pray When Isaiah beheld the King the Lord of Glory he cries out Wo is me for I am undone I am a man of unclean lips Isa 6.5 These make no such Confession and were he now alive they would say he was of the Devil 1 John 3.8 These if they sleep in the time of their Worship if Passion never so much break out among themselves and hateful Words and many notorious visible Enormities they disdain to say what Christ taught his Disciples to whom God was a Father to pray Mat. 6.12 Forgive us our trespasses So that I am not more sure of any one thing in Religion than this That no Perfectionist can be saved 2. To shew man the Want and then the Worth of Christ the Saviour The Apostle preached nothing more he tells the Corinthians 1 Cor. 2.2 I determined to know nothing among you but Christ and him crucified Nothing in comparison of this Now it is well known in their Meetings they determine to know nothing less than Christ and him crucified Salvation by an outward Christ is disowned Penn and Whitehead expounded the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world in a large Folio to be the opposing the Lamb-like thing The Light within Thou talkest they were wont to say of the Man crucified at Jerusalem sixteen hundred years ago Dost thou believe to be saved by Blood shed upon the ground Now
what was inflicted by the Civil Magistrate on one another was just That Penn defended and engaged so to do Pensilvania by Soldiers and Arms against the Indians Commissions were given to Fight for the recovering of a Sloop taken from some Privateers that they Imprisoned some Quakers for Printing some Books without a License though but in their own defence That Burroughs said God could Arm Thousands of his Saints yea and Ten Thousands to Fight his Cause but for the present must not be so till Christ command them and this Christ is the Light within He asks this one plain Question of Friends Is not force of Arms necessary in England and all other Nations though condemned and that by the Spirit of God as Antichristian and Diabolical This Gentleman entertains you with a very pleasant Comedy how they play their Infallibilities Inspirations Prophecies one against another how they damn all the Christian world and yet assert the Salvation of Heathen How Fox and especially the Old Cheat George Bishop told Oliver How much they loved him and stood by him and what should be done to prevent the coming in of Charles Stuart And yet when he came in told him They acted not against him but mourned for him And talk much how they suffered as he did and what was their Loyalty till Billin a great Quaker Protested That if it cost him his life he would declare against any such pretences for said he we were not for the King but against him Howgil stole whole Paragraphs out of Mr. Selden of Tythes verbatim Yet this in others hath been highly condemned where not practised but injuriously charged He gives you an account of their horrid Blasphemies about Scripture as Serpents Meat dust about Christ and the Light within about Perfection Ordinances c. AND now I advise all Persons of Parts and Wisdom that look into the Controversie between us and the Quakers especially Gentlemen and Ministers to buy and peruse the aforenamed Book the best in my opinion that ever I saw I have given you some of the dainties there to invite you to a more plentiful eating What shame is it for Men to pretend as Preachers to convince Gainsayers and yet know not the most convincing Arguments to confute their Folly whom they know to be the worst of Hereticks and oppose them as such Or what a shame is it for Gentlemen who should be advocates for truth not to know what can be said against such Deceivers as these These are Hereticks indeed some of the worst when others cannot be so call'd though they are too often so but rather Erraticks and perhaps we are all such though some more than others As I have recommended the Snake in the Grass so I will Pennyman's Paper call'd The Quakers Contradictions according to the Times and their Interest Once a Quaker but left them for their Folly and Madness Some have said as he proves out of their Writers That their Writings are equal to the Scriptures and of as great Authority Some That the Scriptures are Carnal Dust Death Others have declared before the Lord That such words were never spoken by Friends which if not great impudence must be great ignorance For it may be Friends in one place know not what Friends in another place do say or Print I therefore commend Pennyman for sometimes repeating their words and no more He proves that they that have denied the Scripture to be the word of God have called their own Writings so Some have said That they are no Ministers but are under the curse that be not infallible and speak not immediately from God that cannot resolve all doubts and convince all Gainsayers What a cursed sort of Teachers then say I are most of the Quakers Teachers who are so far from this that they cannot speak tolerable sense nor pronounce right many common words They also have said That they that have not the Spirit of discerning and know not Mens state infallibly upon the sight of them cannot apply themselves to them accordingly not knowing whether they be holy or unholy But did they know all the Priests and Jesuits that came among them whom they almost adored Bedlo told my Brother how often Whitebread and he as well as other Papists had been at Quakers Meetings that Whitebread Executed was a Speaker Why discerned they not such Speakers that have been found to have lived in Drunkenness Whoredoms Must you know hearts too this is the work of Christ Judas was not smelt by the Disciples Some say they know Thousands of Friends that are free from Sin Once they all pretended to be so and that they that were not so were not of God but of the Devil Some say That Friends be all of one Mind and Soul Yet we know there are great divisions among them here at home and beyond Sea He tells you of a Quaker's stealing the Hour-glass out of a Church and that Fox said If a Friend be moved to such a thing by the Lord by the Eternal Spirit it is defended Now you Priests and Steeple-house Wardens look to the Silver Vessels used in the Sacrament for if a Friend should be moved to take them away by the Eternal Spirit it would be defended Some of the Separate Quakers have desired Liberty of Conscience in things not Evil as was once pleaded for but they cannot be heard Some have condemned asking any thing of outward Rulers Others have often Petitioned King and Parliament The Quakers Speakers take the chief Seats in their Assemblies now though once they condemned it Many now in Disputes and Discourse use terms others condemn as wicked Some have said It is laid on them by Christ not to Sue any Man at Law others I say have done it and as I have been credibly informed they that would not take an Oath in Bristol have in London Pennyman tells you how Penn blamed the Church of England in the Reign of the Late King James for Censuring the King's Acts and Reflecting on Roman Catholicks as not Manners nor Justice He cites the Book Some have said If the Spirit direct to fight we have nothing to say against it Others say they can never be directed by the Spirit to any such thing for it is not of God He speaks of their rudeness to him saying he deserved to be whipp'd at a Carts tail that they thrust him in the side with a stick Yet all these were Inspired and Infallible in contrary Doctrines Now having given an account of these two excellent Writers Let me a little consider the Plea of some among us for this People Question 1. Are not the Quakers more sober than once they were Yes and many know not the Opinions nor Practices of their first old Leaders No Men or Women run up and down Naked now c. Question 2. Are they not a People very Temperate above others Let every Man speak as he finds I lived long next door to one who was found out to be a