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A14366 A moste necessary treatise of free wil not onlye against the Bapistes, but also against the Anabaptistes, which in these our daies, go about to renue the detestable heresies of Pelagius, and of the Luciferians, whiche say and affirm, that we be able by our own natural strength to fulfil the law and commaundementes of God. Made dialoge wyse by Iohn Veron, in a manner word by woorde, as he did set it forth in his lectures at Paules. VĂ©ron, John, d. 1563. 1561 (1561) STC 24684; ESTC S101311 58,715 178

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¶_o a_o most_o necessary_a treatise_n of_o free_a will_n not_o only_o against_o the_o papist_n but_o also_o against_o the_o anabaptiste_n which_o in_o these_o our_o day_n go_v about_o to_o renew_v the_o detestable_a heresy_n of_o pelagius_n and_o of_o the_o luciferians_n which_o say_v and_o affirm_v that_o we_o be_v able_a by_o our_o own_o natural_a strength_n to_o fulfil_v the_o law_n and_o commandment_n of_o god_n ¶_o made_n dialogue_n wise_a by_o john_n veron_n in_o a_o manner_n word_n by_o word_n as_o he_o do_v set_v it_o forth_o in_o his_o lecture_n at_o paul_n ¶_o to_o the_o right_a honourable_a lord_n my_o lord_n robert_n dudley_n master_n of_o the_o horse_n and_o knight_n of_o the_o most_o honourable_a order_n of_o the_o garter_n john_n veron_n wish_v grace_n peace_n of_o conscience_n with_o increase_n of_o honour_n from_o god_n the_o father_n through_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n our_o lord_n for_o as_o much_o as_o i_o have_v all_o ready_a set_a fourthe_n the_o doctrine_n 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