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A12552 The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22875; ESTC S991 85,221 80

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2.11.12_o &_o that_o in_o as_o large_a &_o ample_a manner_n if_o not_o more_o ample_a then_o to_o the_o israelit_n for_o of_o they_o only_o be_v the_o male_n circumcise_v but_o by_o baptism_n be_v both_o male_n &_o female_n seal_v and_o this_o must_v follow_v necessary_o or_o else_o the_o covenant_n by_o the_o come_n of_o je._n chr._n shall_v be_v more_o restrain_v ●hen_o it_o be_v under_o the_o law_n who_o come_v to_o ratify_v &_o confirm_v that_o whole_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v 2._o cor._n 1._o 20._o the_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v in_o he_o yea_o &_o amen_o etc._n etc._n for_o god_n give_v it_o with_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o abraham_n &_o his_o infant_n &_o if_o christ_n shall_v give_v it_o unto_o we_o only_o &_o not_o to_o our_o infant_n this_o be_v to_o lessen_v &_o infringe_v the_o covenant_n &_o not_o to_o con●●●●_n all_o but_o to_o take_v away_o part_n of_o that_o which_o god_n before_o have_v give_v john_n smyth_n your_o second_o argument_n follow_v from_o coll._n 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to_o be_v baptize_v answer_n touch_v this_o first_o position_n that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v i_o read_v that_o auxentius_n one_o of_o the_o arrian_n sect_n with_o his_o adherent_n be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n &_o next_o after_o he_o pelagius_n the_o heretic_n against_o who_o augustine_n &_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n have_v oppose_v &_o condemn_v for_o heresy_n &_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o by_o god_n grace_n we_o shall_v together_o with_o they_o also_o f●rther_v manifest_a &_o prove_v by_o sound_a reason_n out_o of_o the_o word_n the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v infant_n which_o first_o i_o will_v undertake_v &_o then_o answer_v the_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n gen._n 17.20_o god_n make_v his_o covenant_n to_o abraham_n &_o to_o his_o seed_n from_o whence_o i_o reason_n thus_o 2._o that_o covenant_n which_o god_n make_v with_o abraham_n he_o command_v to_o be_v seal_v to_o he_o &_o 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the_o father_n of_o many_o nation_n gen._n 17.4_o also_o gal._n 3.13.4_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o redemne_v we_o from_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o law_n that_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n may_v come_v on_o the_o gentile_n through_o je_n chr._n that_o we_o may_v receive_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o spirit_n see_v vers_fw-la 8.9_o now_o than_o if_o we_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n for_o otherwise_o abraham_n covenant_n shall_v not_o be_v a_o everlasting_a covenant_n gen._n 17.7_o see_v his_o posterity_n after_o the_o flesh_n be_v cut_v of_o for_o a_o time_n rom._n 11_o 15.17.20_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o the_o same_o must_v be_v seal_v to_o we_o &_o to_o our_o infant_n else_o be_v it_o not_o the_o same_o &_o that_o by_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n for_o the_o abolish_n of_o circumcision_n &_o the_o bring_n in_o of_o baptism_n under_o the_o gospel_n do_v not_o abrogate_v or_o disanulle_v the_o commandment_n of_o seal_v the_o covenant_n to_o the_o believe_a 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