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A67245
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A trve copie of the disputation held betweene Master Walker and a Iesuite in the house of one Thomas Bates in Bishops Court in the Old Baily concerning the ecclesiasticall function
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Walker, Henry, Ironmonger.
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1641
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Wing W391; ESTC R17974
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