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A62298 An antidote against Quakerisme wherein these following questions are opened, the truth concerning them proved, the contrary arguments examined and confuted ... / by Stephen Scandrett ... Scandrett, Stephen, 1631?-1706. 1671 (1671) Wing S817; ESTC R34024 108,858 138

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now to expect a Revelation of all Truths necessary to salvation by the immediate objective teachings of Gods Spirit It is not for us to expect and promise our selves or others this if the Lord hath no where promised it Can it be proved when Christ saith The Spirit shall lead you into all truth that this is to be understood without means without the Scripture When God saith They shall teach no more every man his Neighbour and every man his Brother saying know the Lord for they shall all know me The sense is they shall not teach as the unconverted are to be taught who believe not who have no saving knowledge of God at all So they who have received the anointing need not as doubting and unbelieving persons that any teach them that Jesus is the Christ Can it be proved that the words are to be understood in that sense as to exclude the Ministry from edifying the Body of Christ till we all come in the unity of the Faith This Assertion That God is pleased objectively and immediately by his Spirit to reveal to all men or to his own people at least all Truths and all Duty necessary to Salvation so that they need not mind the Scripture but only wait for these immediate objective Teachings is the Wile of Satan whereby evil men take people off from what they acknowledge the full and the only Rule to lead them into a thousand Errours I prove it an Errour by these Arguments following Arg. 1. God hath promised that in order to his peoples instruction in matters necessary to Salvation his Word shall concur with his Spirit to the end of the world Therefore 't is not his pleasure to teach his people these necessary Truths immediately or without the word much less to teach all men The promise we have Isa 59.21 As for me this is my Covenant with them saith the Lord my Spirit that is upon thee and my words which I have put in thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy Seed nor out of the mouth of thy Seeds Seed saith the Lord from henceforth and for ever Arg. 2. God never from the beginning of the world to the Apostles days so taught his Church much less all men Therefore 't is without reason to imagine he doth so now Not in Innocency for the Moral Law he taught Adam by that Light he was created with which Moral Law contained necessary Truths to his Salvation In Moses's days though he himself was so taught yet none else the Church was taught mediately by Moses his Ministry In the Apostles days the Church was taught by their Ministry The Apostles themselves had immediate Revelation the Prophets also but 1 Cor. 12.29 Are all Apostles Are all Prophets Arg. 3. Excepting Moses there cannot a man be shewn to whom God by immediate Revelation discovered all Duties necessary to Salvation Paul might seem the most likely but though the Gospel was so manifested to him yet not the Law this was partly by the Law of Nature partly by the consideration of the works of Creation especially by the Scriptures How fond is the Conceit then that the whole Church should now be so taught Arg. 4. Had it been Gods purpose in Gospel times to teach all men nay to teach his whole Church immediately all their Duty then would he not have provided for this end Scriptures inspiring his word into Holy men and moving them to write it and enduing them with the Spirit of Prophesie and the Spirit of Miracles to render them credible that without hesitancy his Church might embrace the word wrote by them for the undoubted Truth of God Had this been Gods pleasure he would not have appointed a Ministry and that to continue to the end of the world for this very end to instruct his Church in those Truths that are necessary to Salvation Go preach saith Christ I am with you always to the end of the world And he gave some Apostles some Pastors and Teachers for the work of the Ministry for the edifying of the Body of Christ till we all come into the unity of Faith Did God provide Scripture and appoint Ministers with an intent not to use them but to do all immediately by his Spirit without them When God gives Means he doth not ordinarily work without means but by them It is worth observation where the Scripture and Ministry are vouchsafed the Heathen attain only to know Moral Duties nothing of Christ Is it not because God concurs to teach them with the means they have the Law of Nature but doth not supply the want of means they have not to teach them immediately Jesus Christ Where therefore he hath given Scriptures and the Ministry he doth not ordinarily teach without them Men may as well expect God should ordinarily preserve life and strength without Bread Arg. 5. Immediate teachings were extraordinary things Therefore not to be expected by all men nor ordinarily and for continuance by the Church Look on them in Abraham in Moses in Samuel or any of the Prophets they were extraordinary Those persons chosen above any for God thus to reveal himself to The Revelation at certain times only 1 Sam. 3. The Lord called Samuel and to him denounced Judgment upon Elies House It was so extraordinary that all Israel v. 20. from Dan to Beersheba took notice of it and hereby knew that Samuel was established a Prophet of the Lord. And v. 21. It is said God appeared to him again in Shiloh This was no ordinary thing Daniel's and Ezekiel's Visions no ordinary things nor were Joseph's and Nebuchadnezzar's and Pharaoh's Dreams nor John's Revelation Every one nay every Believer must not look that the Sun should stand still at his Prayers or the Sea be driven back for him This were to confound ordinary with extraordinary Arg. 6. He that is by the Spirit immediately taught the Gospel can say I received it not of man neither was I taught it but by Revelation of the Holy Ghost But every Believer cannot say so Therefore every Believer is not immediately taught the Gospel Arg. 7. If immediate teaching be a sufficient Rule to Heaven then Believers need not hear the Word or read the Scriptures But God commanding Believers Be swift to hear Remember the Law of Moses my Servant Vnto the word of Prophesie ye do well to attend Thou shalt read Deut. 17.10 puts them not upon a needless duty Arg. 8. If every Believer hath immediate teachings then every one of them can write Gods mind as infallibly as the Pen-men of the Scripture Then every believer may add to the Scripture and enlarge the Churches Canon Whereas Heb. 1.1 God did deliver the Churches Canon by parts 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but now by his Son which opposed to the former discovers the whole Canon is by Christ delivered no more parts that may be added are now to be expected Arg. 9 They that hold this must either say
instituted Circumcision did he not threaten the man child not circumcised the eight day shall be cut off he hath broken my Covenant Gen. 17.14 These things are written for our example and for our learning for whom God hath instituted Baptism to be of that use to us that circumcision was of to the Jews The Lord hath said Call upon me fear me the same Lord God hath said Go teach Baptizing The Pharisees rejected the Counsel of God against themselves not submitting to this Ordinance Christ submitted to it whether shall we chose to imitate Christ or the Pharisees Whether the Lords Supper be an Ordinance of Christ binding us For this also take these two arguments Arg. 1. What is ordained of Christ for his Church and not abolished still binds but such is the Lords Supper It was Instituted by Christ Mat. 26.26 27. And as they were eating Jesus took bread and blessed it and brake it and gave it to the Disciples and said take eat this is my body And he took the Cup and gave thanks and gave it to them saying Drink ye all of it It was instituted for his Church 1 Cor 11.23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you v. 24. This do in remembrance of me He delivered the very command of Christ to them being a Church of Christ plainly discovering that they were all bound to the observance of it Let any shew now where did Christ ever repeal this Institution Ob. Divin of Christ Second part p. 50. The Apostles condescended to the low capacity of the Corinthians as not grown up to that spirituality to see through the outward shadows Their example is no President Answ 1. The Apostle delivered to them the command of Christ ver 24. This do ver 25. This do He warneth them of unworthiness under penalty of making themselves guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. He enjoyns them with due preparation to obey the commands of Christ ver 28. But let a man examine himself and so let him eat Is all this but an Indulgence or Sufferance Paul presseth to have the Institution of Christ in a right manner obeyed in his Church Answ 2. Could not the Corinthians see through the outward shadows were they not believers in Christ who is the substance of all the shadows were they not sanctified in Christ Jesus ch 1.2 Yet the Apostle enjoyns them obedience to the Institution of Christ Answ 3. Either the Apostle did deliver to them the commands of Christ or not and they were to obey the Apostles commands as the comands of Christ or not If they were to obey the Apostles comands as the comands of Christ then are they to be our President For we are to obey the commands of Christ as well as they Here is no manifestation of a repeal Ob. It could not in reason or truth be enjoyned all others that succeed who spiritually enjoy the Communion of the body and blood of Christ where none of their disorders have any place Answ 1. This Objection seems to yield that Christ ordained the Supper for weak Coristians who are subject to Disorders but not for strong and the Corinthians are a President for such weak Christians Then why at least do not those who look on themselves as Teachers from Christ among Quakers enjoyn as Paul did such weak ones to partake of this Ordinance Are there no weak ones among them Answ 2. Will this man take himself to be wiser than Christ and wiser than the Holy Ghost who inspired Paul to enjoyn the Corinthians according to the institution of Christ There was not one sanctified Corinthian but had Communion with the Body and Blood of Christ And many of them were well grounded in Grace ch 1. v. 5. In every thing ye are enriched by him in all utterance and in all knowledge and yet these even these are enjoyned to partake of the Lords Supper Will he say the Holy Ghost did not act in reason or in truth Answ 3. A grown Christian may grow more and he that hath Communion with Christ may have further Communion and he that is strong may yet have more strength and so by this Ordinance be further and further helped on to Salvation There doth appear then very good reason why the Holy Ghost should enjoyn strong Christians this duty of partaking the Supper Ob. p. 51. They who know a beginning in the Spirit ought to wait for this spiritual appearance and coming of Christ and not turn back again to shadows Ans 1. He condemns Pauls practice which he approved of before If condescending Paul acted according to the mind of Christ then true Ministers ought thus to condescend and put weak believers upon receiving the Supper that they might act also according to the mind of Christ ●e ye followers of us saith he as we also are of Christ But if weak believers must not partake of it because a shadow then Paul should not have condescended to give them the Lords Command putting them upon receiving examine your selves and so eat Will this man become Pauls Teacher and pretend to know Christs will better then Paul Ans 2. According to this Doctrine the Corinthians ought to have rejected the commands of Christ by Paul Do this let a man examine himself and so eat We do know a beginning in the Spirit and must we return to shadows Ans 3. As if partaking of the Supper were inconsistent with waiting for a more full manifestation of Christ or Naaman washing in Jordan could not expect from God a cure of his Leprosic It is the duty of all believers in the use of means which the Lord hath appointed to expect his presence and his blessing and in the use of such means it may be had If God appoint the blowing of Rams horns in their obedience Israel may expect the fall of Jerico's walls And so in the use of the Supper it being of the Lords own appointment we may expect his gracious presence 1 Cor. 10.16 The Cup of blessing which we bless is it not the Communion of the blood of Christ We may expect the confirmation of our faith touching pardon Mat. 26.28 This is my blood of the new Testament which is shed for many for the remission of sins Answ 4. Though it be a shadow yet an Evangelical shadow a shadow of the Lords own appointing and which he never yet repealed And shall not this be dear to every gracious soul Who is not bound to uphold the unrepealed ordinances of Jesus Christ As every Jew was bound to uphold the Passeover in a Holy manner till Christs death did put an end to it So is every Christian bound to uphold the Lords Supper Christ having neither done nor said any thing to cause the celebration there to cease And therefore where the Lords unrepealed ordinance are contemned they may talk of Christs spiritual appearance but they may wait long enough and with small hope to obtain The Lord
Scripture is not to be preferred before the Spirit p. 13. The Spirit is greater than the Scripture p. 17. And you did acknowledge the Spirit revealed as certainly the mind of God as the Scripture ib. Ans 1. This is nothing to the point the Light in every man one thing the Spirit another Ans 2. Though the Counsels of Gods Spirit in Believers hearts be in themselves as certainly the Truths of God and the Spirit is not to be quenched as are his Counsels in the Scriptures for he can never lie Yet are they not to Believers so certainly the Truths of God Believers are not at all times so readily certain they are indeed the Counsels of the Spirit as they are that the Scriptures are We have a more sure word of Prophesie More sure than what Not only than the Counsels we find in our hearts not only than the Counsels of the Light within us but more sure than the direction or Voice of God himself speaking to us immediately or not by the Scriptures 2 Pet. 1.17 There came a voice to him from the excellent Glory This is my Beloved Son v. 18. This Voice we heard v. 19. We have also a more sure Word of Prophesie The Scriptures containing the Prophesies of Christ are to us a more sure Rule than the immediate voice of God himself though in it self what God immediately speaks is as certainly truth as what is spoken in the Scripture Answ 3. The Controversie being about a Rule the Spirit should not be opposed to the Scriptures For the Spirit properly is no Rule at all The Spirit enditing and speaking in the Scriptures is not the Rule but the Authr of the Rule The Spirit bringing Scripture to remembrance even what Christ hath spoken and thereby directing us is not our Rule but puts us in remembrance of the Rule The Spirit enlightning us to understand Gods mind in the Scripture is not our Rule but our spiritual Oculist strengthning our Eyes to see the Rule Nor is the Illumination of the Spirit a Rule at all as he often supposeth the Artificers Rule is one thing the clearness of his Eye to see the Rule another for our rule to Heaven is one thing the clearness of our Understanding given by Gods Spirit to discern the rule another The Rule objectively sets Gods Will and our Duty before us the Spirits illumination brightens our Understanding to apprehend it so set before us And if the Spirit be not a Rule much less is he a greater Rule than the Scriptures He should thus have expressed himself to speak to the Point The Dictates or Counsels or Directions of the Spirit of God immediately and without the Scriptures are to all men a more infallible Rule to Heaven than the Directions of the Spirit of God in the Scriptures are to those that have them And if he had well proved this he had manifested that there is some foundation for his Religion But neither can he nor all his Brethren prove that Gods Spirit doth without the Scripture reveal to every man the whole mind of God as much as is necessary to bring him to Heaven God spake immediately to Moses Did he then thus reveal to every man as much as to him Doth he now Are all Prophets If he should vouchsafe to reveal a little to any of his and not by the Scripture they have also a more sure word of Prophesie c. But since he doth not reveal to any without the Scriptures all necessary Truths as he doth by it to desire and prefer the Spirit teaching without the Scriptures before the Spirit teaching by the Scriptures as a more infallible guide to Heaven is to desire and prefer what God denies us before that which God vouchsafes us to hanker with Evah after the denied fruit to dislike with the Israelites the Mannah that came from Heaven We must not frowardly prescibe to God the Spirit immediately teaching shall be my Guide to Glory the Spirit teaching in the Scriptures shall not We ought thankfully and admiring his Grace accept of that Guide to Glory he chuseth for us 4. I assert The Scripture is a Trying Rule That is a Rule able to prove or manifest Truth to be Truth Falshood to be Falshood in all things that concern our Faith and Conversation A Rule by which we may and ought when we have any reason of doubting to try for our own safety Opinions Doctrines or Spirits whether they are of God or no. Arg. 1. That which discovers the whole Truth is able to try every Opinion Doctrine and Spirit But the Scriptures are a full Rule discovering the whole Truth Arg. 2. By that which we know to be infallible we may and ought to try what is doubtful But we know the Scriptures are an infallible Rule Therefore by them we may and ought to try whatever as to Faith and Conversation we doubt of 2 Pet. 1.19 When the Apostles had said We have a moresure word of Prophesie he adds unto which ye do well to attend He means for trial and proof of Truth He had asserted the Doctrine of Christ to be no Fable ver 16. We have not followed cunningly devised Fables To help their Faith he minds them v. 17. of the Voice from Heaven he heard in the Transfiguration Bnt saith he we have a more sure word of Prophesie more sure to prove the Doctrine of Christ and so confirm our Faith in it Therefore he adds you do well to attend to it that is for this end Arg. 3. That which the Holy Ghost approves of is our duty and for our good But he approves of it that we try Doctrines yea the Doctrines of the Spirit of God by the Scripture Acts 17.11 These were more noble than those of Thessalonica in that they searched daily whether these things were so This Argument was fled from in the first Dispute and neither then nor since answered in their Book Arg. 4. What Rule Christ directs us to try by himself his Apostles also made use of for this purpose is our safe trying Rule But our Saviour directs us to the Scriptures John 5.39 Search the Scriptures they are they which testifie of me that I am the Messiah the things the Jews doubted of He himself made use of it Luke 24.26 27. The Disciples doubting whether he were the Messiah because put to death Ought not saith he Christ to have suffered and beginning at Moses and all the Prophets he expounded unto them the things concerning himself His Apostles likewise Acts 2.24 God raised Christ from the dead for David did so prophesie of him Thou wilt not leave my Soul in Hell Acts 15. The Question being whether Circumcision were necessary to Salvation concerning this they decreed according to the Scripture v. 15. To this agree the words of the Prophet as it is written c. Arg. 5. We may safely embrace what agrees with Scripture for what agrees with Truth is Truth We may safely reject all that is
in our hearts within Answ 1. The spirit dwelling in all believers is sometimes a sweet mover to duty though no indwelling spirit yet by common convictions he strives with unbelievers who do resist the Holy Ghost The duty he puts men upon is agreeable to the Scripture and his motions are not to be quenched Answ 2. The things commanded in the Scripture are to be done whether the spirit inwardly puts men forwards or no Look over these Four last Arguments againe Otherwise supposing the spirit never putting forward within it had been no sin for the Jews before Christs time to reject all the Ceremonial Law nor for us to omit all those duties hinted in the Second Argument Gods commands cease not to be Gods commands either because the spirit doth not within put men on to obey them or because they are written therefore we are to obey them though the spirit within puts not on And this is to obey the spirit or to obey God Therefore according to the Fourch Argument Though men should say the spirit did never inwardly put them on they are certainly to be damned who obey not the voice of God in Scripture And to these I adde this Fifth Argument Otherwise some wicked men in living contrary to the Scriptures do not sin cannot be damned for so doing for some have sinned away the motions and strivings of Gods spirit are past feeling given up to reprobate sense 6. We are to hear what the Spirit of Faith saith to the Churches and this is written Answ 3. Yea Because a thing is written in the Scripture are we to do it If my Faith in God or Christ be weak and I find it written fear not I am with thee You believe in God believe also in me I will in Gods assistance rowl my self and act faith on God and Christ for this reason because I see these sweet words in the Scriptures of God If I feel any want what ever and light on these words Ask and ye shall have Call upon me in the time of trouble Be careful for nothing but in every thing let your requests be made known to God because I find these sweet commands in Gods book I will with Gods help take heart and fall to pray I appeal to any mans Conscience whether I do not well in so doing This Induction might pass for the First Argument and the Second is this For seeing a thing written in Scripture I am the more sure it is the mind and Will of God all Scripture being by divine inspiration therefore I thought for this very reson the rather perform it because I find it written Arg. 3. And why doth God command us to read but that we should obey Deut. 17.19 The King shall read in the book of the Law all the dayes of his Life that he might learn to keep all words of this Law to do them The end of our very reading must be practice A 4th Arg. from Examples see in the close of the Letter that follows The Scripture binds and that in those things of which the Light in every man by it self saith nothing And dares any man say that this Light doth bind the Church of God in those things the Scriptures do not teach Let no man be wise above what is written And now let the Reader judge which is the highest and safest Rule to Heaven the Scriptures or the Light in every man Gods will laid down in Scripture is a full only infallible trying binding Rule to Heaven and that in those things of which this Light saith nothing Gods will so much of it as is discovered by this Light is no Rule at all to heaven because no full Rule not the only Rule hardly distinguishable from the dictates of darkness Sin and Satan insufficient to try all Doctrines by not at all binding the Church in those things the Scriptures do not teach To conclude Mind what a dreadful thing 't is to walk by a false Rule to take that for the way to heaven which is not 1. It is Condemnation 2 Thes 2.11 12. God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a Lie That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth It is a fearful thing to be bound hand and foot for ever to be in utter darkness among Devils in a Lake of fire unable to die God langhing at our calamity because we rejected his Counsels and chose our own ways a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God 2. It is Damnation after hope Mistakers think they see the right way to Heaven and therefore hope but to be damned after hope how greatly will this augment the Misery 3. it is to be damned after pains-taking to be saved after Zeal after Conscientiousness in walking as a man supposeth according to the Will of God The Pharisees were conscientious in keeping the Law and setting up their own Righteousness for Justification but through their Errour missing of Christs Righteousness after all their Zeal and Conscientiousness in doing what they did they are damned and lost to all Eternity How unconceivably miserable it is to be deceived It is our safety our great wisdom to walk by such a Rule as cannot deceive us Scripture-Counsel is full and all by divine Inspiration Walk sincerely according to this Rule thou canst not erre thou canst not be damned If all the dictates of Light within were infallibly the Truths of God yet heart Counsels are some of them from Darkness and the Devil walk after these though never so warily thou maist possibly erre possibly thou maist lose thy Soul To say I will forsake all the Counsels of darkness that are within me and walk only after the Counsels of the Light within me is as if thou shouldst say here is a Cup of Wine mixed with poyson I will drink out only the wine and leave the poyson Friend the Scriptures are a Cup of pure wine no Counsels of Sin Errour Darkness Devils mingling with the Counsels of God Is it not safer drinking there Whether every man be enlightned with a saving Light SO much having been spoken by me and granted by the Adversary touching this Light compared with the Scriptures I did deservedly explode this Question out of the Second Dispute where I had but little time left for discussing the following Questions Yet now I must not decline it Upon two accounts may a Light properly be denominated Saving 1. If it reveals objectively all Truths to us necessary to Salvation This may be called saving because if we obey it in all things we shall certainly be saved Thus the Scriptures or the Gospel contained in them are an external saving Light External I say because it must have entrance by our Senses Rom. 1.16 The Gospel is the power of God to Salvation Eph. 1.13 The Gospel of Salvation Acts 11.14 Words by which we may be saved 2. If it enlightens our Understanding effectually to apprehend all Truths necessary to Salvation
is not Whether Infants or persons at age shall be Baptized but Whether any are to be Baptized The Question is not Whether Presbyterians or Anabaptists c. are to Baptize but Whether any whether true Ministers of Jesus Christ whoever they be are to Baptize For if any Ministers whatsoever are to baptize any persons whatsoever with water then their Doctrine is false then the Question in hand must be yielded up that Baptism with water is an Ordinance of Christ binding us To prove the point Arg. 1. What God hath instituted for his Church and not repealed is still binding But God hath instituted Baptism with water for his Church and not repealed it Therefore Baptism with water is still binding Obj. Against the Major Proposition they object No Dictate binds but what proceeds from the Light within for p. 13. We are to worship God in newness of Spirit Answ As if we could not worship God in newness of Spirit when we obey the Dictates of God himself in the Scripture Psal 119.4 5. Thou hast commanded us to keep thy Precepts O that my wayes were directed to keep thy Statntes A gracious soul keeping Gods Statutes in Scripture and Gods Commands to keep them can from Faith and Love heartily and with longing desire embrace and close with them Those therefore that care not to obey Gods Voice or Institutions in Scripture have reason to suspect themselves strangers to this newness of Spirit But the Major is evident from the binding power of the Scripture The Minor hath three parts That Baptism was instituted of God That it was instituted for the Church That it was never repealed I prove them singly 1. Baptism with water hath been instituted of God First God gave John Commission to baptize with water John 1.33 He that sent me to baptize with water The Institution was after confirmed by Christ Mat. 28.19 Go teach all Nations baptizing them Obj. Saith G. W. Here is no mention of water It is spiritual Baptism we are to understand Answ That we are to understand Baptism with water these Arguments Arg. 1. Christ commands them their Duty But though it be their duty to endeavour to baptize spiritually or convert men yet it is not their duty to convert men for supposing their diligence 't is not their sin if persons be not converted or spiritually baptized God never gave them power thus to change mens hearts Their work is one the Holy Ghosts another Arg. 2. If teaching be external baptizing is external You may as well say they are to do the Spirits Office in teaching internally as the Spirits Office in baptizing internally It s evident they are enjoyned a work in their power and a work distinct from the work of the Spirit in that his presence to do his work is promised whilst they do theirs Arg. 3. Paul would not have thanked God he baptized so few 1 Cor. 1.14 if baptizing spiritually had been his work Arg. 4. If we are to understand spiritual baptism then as many as the Apostles baptized were certainly sanctified but what was Simon Magus Acts 8.13 Arg. 5. If this be Christs meaning and there be no other Baptism in the Church than spiritual then every Believer and sanctified person is already baptized and no more is to be done to him as signified by this word But Christ requires that even Believers be baptized Mark 16.16 Cornelius was a devout man sanctified already and the Holy Ghost fell on him yet after all this he is baptized Acts ●0 Crispus and many Corinthians believed yet were also baptized Acts 18.8 Nay therefore baptized because Believers Arg. 6. If the Apostle did afterwards baptize with water then we are to understand Christ as commanding Baptism with water but they did This was denied in the Dispute proved from Acts 8.36 See here is water what doth binder me to be baptized And Chap. 10.47 Can any man forbid water that these should not be baptized I asked how can we assure our Consciences better of the meaning of Christ than by the practice of the Apostles It was answered The Apostles knew not the mind of Christ Here Robert Ludgater's Impudence called for pity Here 's a Fellow said I takes upon him to know the mind of Christ better than the Apostles Upon which he was blank'd and neither he nor any of the rest attempted to give any Answer to this Argument 2. Baptism with water was instituted for the Church Mat. 28. Teach all Nations baptizing them It was not instituted for one or several persons by name but all Nations Acts 8.5 In the City of Samaria Philip baptized both men and women Acts 18.8 Many Corinthians believed and were baptized So the Eunuch was baptized with water Cornelius also and his Company Acts 8.36 10.47 already mentioned The extent both of the Institution and of the Practice prove it was instituted for the Church 3. This Institution of Baptism by water for the Church was never repealed Shew when Obj. John must decrease Christ must increase Answ John's honour must As the Light of the Morning-Star decays by the Rising of the Sun Here is no Repeal and Christ confirmed the Ordinance after John's death Obj. There is but one Baptism Answ True but this hath two parts the Outward or the Sign which is water applied by the Minister the Inward or thing signified which is the Question of a good Conscience This we obtain by the Spirit rendring the outward means effectual which is far from repealing it Obj. Then 't is but the outward part of Baptism that is contended for Answ We agree in this that the question of a good Conscience is necessary We differ in this whether the use of water as signifying it be a binding Ordinance Obj. There is a distinction between Baptism of water and of the spirit as between Johns Baptizing with water and Christs with the holy Ghost and fire Answ 1. The Scripture calleth sometimes the work of the Minister sometimes the work of the spirit Baptism and they differ as much as the sign and the thing signified in one and the san e Ordinance 2. Johns Baptism and Christs are in substance the same for when John Baptized with water the spirit of Christ was given to purge and sanctifie and when Christ Baptizeth with the Holy Ghost it was in the use of water Eph 5.26 He sanctifieth the Church with the washing of water by the word Here is nothing yet to prove a Repeal Ob. Divin of Christ Second part p 49. The substance come the shadows fly Answ 1. By the substance do you mean sanctifying grace and the Question of a good Conscience Lord what wilt thou have one to do since Christ saith Go Teach Baptizing had you that substance you would stand for this Ordinance of Baptism with water When the Eunuch the three thousand Lydia the Jaylor were converted they were for it 2. The true substance abolishing shadows is not Christ in us or his Image drawn over our
to disgrace by openly as it were proclaiming your own ignorance during that time and by becoming unconstant to what you have so long professed to bear the reproach ill will and malice of your own Party they will contemptuously call you Apostates and what not What do you now say to the matter Can you still hold your purpose Now you begin to stagger The Devil is an utter enemy to Truth he knows it leads to Heaven In this case therefore he will be prompting what ever hazard thou dost run spare thy self Concerning the Kings Messenger said the Prophet See how this Son of a Murderer hath sent to take away mine Head look when the Messenger cometh shut the door and hold him fast at the door Unless the great God of Heaven and Earth stand by you thus will you deal with Truth if our Opinion appear to be it you will look on 't with as much malignity as on a spiteful enemy that would take away all that ever you have you would be sure to bar it out of your hearts But the Lord will enable all his savingly to take in his Truth Concerning such the Apostle could say God hath chosen you to Salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth Seek therefore your help from the Lord. If he shall graciously transform you by the renewing of your mind in spite of flesh and blood Earth and Hell you shall prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God And so shall your perswasion be undeceiving so shall your hopes be such as maketh not ashamed The Desire as well as Design of Your Souls hearty Friend STEPHEN SCANDRETT AN ANTIDOTE AGAINST Quakerisme Concerning the Scriptures compared with the Light that is in every man as to their being our Rule BY a Rule understand not an Artificial Rule that Instrument by which Artificers are guided but a Moral that Instrument that God makes use of to direct bind us to our duty that we directed by it and obedient to it may obtain Gods favour and be saved By the Light in every man understand 1. Not the special saving Illumination of the Spirit of God whereby we are able to discern effectually the Mysteries of the Cospel for though the truly sanctified have this Light Matth. 13.16 Blessed are your Eyes for they see yet not any in their unregenerate state 1 Cor. 2 14 The Natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness to him neither can he know them because they are spiritually difcerned 2. Much less the In-dwelling Spirit of God P. 26. He consounds the Spirit the light making both one For though the truly sanctified as before have him dwelling in them to help their Infirmities to lead them into all truth to quicken comfort strengthen and cause them to walk in Gods Statutes 1 Cor. 3.16 Know ye not that ye are the Temples of God and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you Yet the Spirit of God is not thus in every man Jude v. 19. These are they who separate themselves sensual having not the Spirit 3. Not the Light of the Gospel as the Word is used 2 Cor. 4.4 Lest the Light of the glorious Gospell of Christ should shine into their hearts For the Gospel is not given to every man Psal 147.19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob his Statutes unto Israel he bath not dealt so with any Nation and as for his Judgments they have not known them And where the Gospel is given all do not receive it into their hearts that it should be within them Acts 13.46 It was necessary the Word of God should first have been spoken unto you but seeing ye put it from you we turn to the Gentiles 4. Not Christ who is called the Light of the world For Christ Personally is in Heaven Acts 3.21 Whom the Heaven must receive till the times of Restitution of all things Christ spiritually or the Image of Christ consisting in Knowledge Righteousness and true Holiness is only in the Regenerate for in whom he thus is to them he is a sure ground of hope of Glory Col. 1.27 Christ in you the hope of Glory But every man hath not a sure Ground to hope for Glory All in whom Christ thus is are approved of God 2 Cor. 13 5. Christ is in you except ye be Reprobates or unapproved Is every man approved of God Again Some are without Christ Eph. 2.12 At that time ye were without Christ The Body that is without the Soul hath not the Soul in it and he that is without Christ hath not Christ in him 5. But understand that Principle of Knowledge that is indeed to be found in every man For Christ lighteth every man that cometh into the world This Principle therefore is in the disobedient as well as the obedient Ro. 1 18. The wrath of God is revealed against all unrighteousness of men who hold the Truth in Vnrighteousness Those that will not live the Truth have however a principle in them whereby they know much of it 't is in the Heathen as well as the Christian The Gentiles which have not the Law do by nature the things contained in the Law If they had not a principle whereby to know these things how could they do them It will render the whole world of ungodly men unexcusable at the last day even those that have not the Scriptures as well as those that have For they cannot say but that they understood something of Gods Will which yet they have not practised This Light let men term it how they please is nothing else but mans Reason For since it is none of the four Lights first mentioned let any tell what else can it be Take away any of those Lights from within a man he still hath Light or a Principle of Knowledge remaining in him But take away Reason the remaining Light is gone In this Controversie this principle we call not Reason so much as Light Yet the Light that is in every man to prevent Mistakes By Scripture understand not Paper Ink or Letters but the Truths and Will of God as written in the Books of the Old and New Testament The Terms opened we come to the Business The Essential difference between Vs and the people called Quakers lies here They hold that the Light in every man is the Rule that directs to Heaven that the Scripture therefore is to be embraced so far only as it agrees with this Light We hold That the Scripture is the Rule that directs to Heaven that the Light within every man therefore is to be regarded so far only as it agrees with the Scripture Now though we both agree that neither of these is wholly to be cast off yet that men might see which of them is to be embraced as the highest and safest Rule which of them is to be rejected in competition with the other I assert these things concerning the Scriptures 1.
of Christ and all his Benefits is made unto Gal. 3 22. That the Promise by Faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe This is the Condition of the Promise of purchased Salvation Mark 16.16 He that believeth shall be saved How can any be supposed to obtain Interest in Christ and Salvation purchased by him that hath not the Qualifications to which Christ is promised that comes not up to the Condition of the Promise Again whom God hath decreed to save on them he doth infallibly bestow Faith and the Knowledge of Christ Acts 13.48 As many as were ordained to eternal life believed All that are to be saved shall know Christ Isa 54.13 All thy Children shall be taught of God That it is to know Christ See John 6.45 They shall be all taught of God every one therefore that hath heard and hath learned of the Father cometh unto me Further This work he hath committed unto Christ to bestow the knowledge of himself on all that are to be saved John 17.2 3. Thou hast given him power over all flesh that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him And this is Life eternal that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent Those that are given to Christ are all to be saved Eternal Life is to be given to them all and since this is eternal Life to know Christ it follows that the knowledge of Christ is to be given to them every one And this follows too to whomsoever the knowledge of Christ is never given to them eternal life is never given The Minor I prove That the Light in every man reveals not Christ Had not God said Gen. 3.15 I will put enmity between thee and the Woman ond between thy seed and her seed it shall bruise thy Head How could Adam with all the Light that was left him after the Fall ever have understood that it was the Gracious Design of God to save lost man by a Saviour the Seed of the Woman 1 Cor. 2.11 What man knoweth the things of a man save the Spirit of man which is in him Even so the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit of God Hence it is that the whole Doctrine of Jesus Christ in Scripture is called a Mystery 1 Tim. 3.16 And without Controversie great is the Mystery of Godliness God was manifest in the flesh justified in the Spirit seen of Angels preached unto the Gentils believed on in the World received up to Glory Christ's Love to his Church is a Mystery Eph. 5.31 32. For this cause shall a man leave his Father and his Mother and shall be joyned unto his Wife and they two shall be one flesh This is a great Mystery but I speak concerning Christ and the Church Every Truth that bears any relation to Christ is a Mystery precious but secret hid in God that which the Light every man hath that comes into the world could never find out were it not for Supernatural Revelation Yea the very Angels of God who greatly excel us in knowledge the Church being supernaturally taught of God have from it received Light to understand this Mystery Eph. 3.9 10. To make all men see what is the Fellowship of the Mystery which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God To the intent that now unto the Principalities and Powers in Heavenly places might be known by the Church the manifold wisdom of God The Light of every man cannot possibly give the knowledge of Christ Only Christ himself can do this Luke 10.22 No man knoweth who is the Son but the Father and who the Father is but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Where therefore the Gospel comes not for Christ reveals himself by the Gospel for all the Light men brought with them into the World they have been there utterly destitute of all knowledge of Christ Isa 55.5 Thou shalt call a Nation that thou knowest not and Nations that know not thee shall run unto thee Yea Christ hath not been so much as named amongst them Rom. 15.20 I have strived to preach the Gospel not where Christ was named Obj. G. W. in a Book stiled The Light and Life of Christ within would prove That this Light can reveal Christ p. 46. because it can reveal God And Christ is God If it be told him that Christ is not our Saviour considered meerly as God but as God-man that hath suffered for us he objects John 8.58 Before Abraham was I am John 17.5 Glorifie thou me with the Glory I had with thee before the world was He was before he took our Nature and was he not a Saviour then A. Let it be considered how Christ is our Saviour He is our Saviour by purchasing Forgiveness and Salvation for us by his Blood and he is our Saviour by applying that purchase to us This purchase is the Ground-work of our Salvation Had there been no purchase there had been no application of the things purchased Before Abraham was Christ was our Saviour as God who was to become man and shed his Blood for us to purchase our Pardon and Salvation and so he applied to us what he was to purchase Now he is our Saviour as God-man that hath already purchased our pardon and Salvation by shedding his Blood for us To prove that he is our Saviour considered meerly as God is to prove that he saves us though he never did nor ever was to take our Nature upon him and shed his Blood for us Truly had he never been desigued to this he had not been our Saviour any more than he is the Saviour of the Fallen Angels whose Nature he was not to take on him Those therefore who before Abraham was knew not Christ as he was to be the Seed of the Woman knew him not as the Saviour And so now those that know not Christ as God in our Nature who by his death hath purchased forgiveness and salvation for us know him not as our Saviour Obj. He objects further John 6.41 I am the Bread which came down from Heaven Eph. 4.10 He that descended is the same that ascended Ans Doth this prove that Christ is not our Saviour as God-man purchasing forgiveness for us suffering in our stead but as God only This rather confirms the contrary For this was his main end in coming down from Heaven that he might take our nature on him and by dying purchase forgiveness for us that having finished this work he might ascend again This proves him our Saviour as God-man Obj. p. 70. His Divine Nature hath given us all things that pertain to Life and Godliness 2 Pet. 1.3 To which may be added Isa 45.15 O God of Israel the Saviour These Scriptures prove him a Saviour as God A. As his Man-hood concurs with his God head in applying his purchase to us Rom. 5.10 We shall be saved by his Life Chap. 4.24
so revealed This may well be called saving because it puts us actually into a state of Salvation and infallibly brings us to Heaven Thus the special Illumination of the Spirit in Believers is an internal saving Light John 17.3 This is Life eternal to know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent I say the special Illumination for there is a common Illumination not saving It causeth to receive the Seed with joy to taste of the heavenly gift and of the powers of the world to come but it doth not effectually prevail with the whole Soul to prize above life and so entertain and stedfastly cleave to the truths and ways of God This premised 1. I affirm that the Light in every man is not in this latter sense saving It doth not enlighten any mans Understanding effectally to apprehend all Truths necessary to Salvation though they should be revealed before him Arg. 1. What God gives not man hath not a man can receive nothing except it be given him from above But God doth not give to every man a savingly enlightned understanding Therefore every man hath it not I proved that God gives it not to every man Deut. 29.4 The Lord hath not given you eyes to see to this day This was urged the first Dispute G. W. p. 19. They did see v. 2. You have seen all the Lord did Ans What are we to understand by Eyes not given Not an understanding enlightned only with that Light that every man hath for with this they saw all the Lord did therefore an understanding effectually and savingly enlightned This had not been given them to that day He objects They did close their eyes therefore God did not enlighten them Answ It was impossible they should close the Eyes of an effectually savingly enlightned understanding for they never had such eyes to close All men then have not a saving Light Arg. 2. Darkness cannot savingly enlighten The Light in every man is darkness as hath been already proved And who puts darkness for light if not he that puts the dim light of every man for an effectual and saving Illumination Arg. 3. A saving Light breaks the heart for sin Luke 22.61 62. The Lord turned and looked on Peter and Peter remembred the words of the Lord and he went out and wept bitterly Changeth the heart 2 Cor. 3.18 All we beholding as in a glass the Glory of the Lord are changed into the same Image from Glory to Glory Giveth Soul satisfaction in God Psal 89.15 16. Blessed are they that know the joyful sound they shall walk O Lord in the Light of thy Countenance in thy Name shall they rejoice Causeth the Soul to come to Christ John 6.45 Every one that hath heard and learned of the Father comes to me And engageth the heart to Obedience Psal 119.102 I have not departed from thy Judgments for thou hast taught me 1 John 2.4 He that saith he knoweth him and keepeth not his Commandments is a Liar But all men have not their hearts broken changed satisfied in God closing with Christ and Gods ways Therefore every mans Light is not saving How can that be called effectual which doth not effect these things And if it doth not effect these things it never sayes And how can that be called saving which never saves Obj. p. 18. Many rebel against grieve resist the Spirit therefore are given up to hardness Answ But if they had had an effectual saving Light they had not rebelled against grieved and resisted the Spirit their hearts had been changed they had closed with Christ and his wayes This very Rebellion proves they never had a saving Light Obj. Man is not a Block or a Beast that saving Light inevitably and irresistably should force a change upon a Rebel Answ No no but it doth infallibly irresistably in a most sweet manner turn change and win and prevail upon him to close with Christ and his Commandments Saul was a Rebel but when it pleased God to reveal his Son in him Gal. 1.15 Immediately he consulted not with flesh and blood And there is 10 one taught of the Father but comes to Christ Not a Soul that knows God but he keeps his Commandments John 10.16 Other sheep I have which I must bring Then they must come and cannot stay back so irresistably by Love doth Christ win them Arg. 4. If a greater by far and a higher Light be not effectual and so saving much less is this Light that is in every man saving But as hath been hinted there is a common Illumination of the Spirit that goes along with the Preaching of the Gosplel yet not effectual This having the advantage of the Gospel can help a man to so far more than the dim light of Heathens can either reveal or discern Arg. 5. That Light that leaves men in a natural estate can never save For he that is in his natural estate is a Child of wrath But this Light within leaves all the ungodly in their natural estate Arg. 6. That Light which cannot help a man to understand Spiritually the things of God can much less effectually win him to embrace and live to Christ that he might be saved But this Light though it can help to understand literally yet not spiritually the things of God 1 Cor. 2.14 with all his Light the natural man cannot know them Arg. 7. That which leaves men under a disability of coming to Christ of breaking off their sins of obeying the Law of God is far from saving But this Light leaves men under a disability of coming off from their sins Jer. 13.23 Can the Ethiopian change his Skin then may you who are accustomed to do evil learn to do well Their Light could not deliver them from Impemtency A disability of coming to Christ John 6.44 No man can come unto me except the Father draw him Without drawing by a special Illumination for all his Light he is left under an impossibility of coming Rom 8.7 The carnal mind is enmity against God for it is not subject to the Law of God nor indeed can be All his Light cannot rescue him from an impossibility of obedience Can such a Light save Arg. 8. If this Light could be effectual to mans Salvation then the special illuminations of the Spirit given or promised would be needless John 16.8 The Spirit shall convince of Righteousness Isa 54.13 All thy Children shall be taught of the Lord Jer. 24.7 I will give them an heart to know me But God doth nothing in vain therefore every man is not enlightned with a saving Light 2. I affirm that the Light in every man is not in the former sense saving It doth not objectively reveal all Truths necessary to salvation This is already abundantly proved when I proved this Light no full Rule To all there I shall here only add Arg. 1. If the natural man with all his Light cannot so much as understand those spiritual Truths which are
covet That the Principles inclining hereunto are sins they are called sin dwelling in us To act no further then the Light that is in every man doth dictate is all one as to say I will not repent of the first motions of my heart to sin nor of any sinful principles in me I will not fly to Christs blood for pardon for them 3. This Light doth not dictate that Baptism by water is Gods will But God in Scripture commands Go Baptize In what sense Philip who could not be without the mind of Christ herein may assure our Consciences Acts 8 36 37. Look here is water But to go no further then the Light that is in every man doth dictate is as much as to say doest thou Lord command go Baptize I will not baptize nor be baptized 4. The Light that every man hath doth not dictate that we ought to celebrate the Lords Supper that is to meet to take bread signifying the body of Christ by institution and give thanks and break it and give and take and eat in remembrance of Christ to take Wine and having blessed give it signifying Christs blood by institution and take and drink to shew forth the Lords death But the Scriptures manifest this in all particulars clearly to be the mind and will of Christ and to the sanctified 1 Cor. 1.2 God in the Scripture commands 1 Cor. 11.24 25. Take eat do this To practice no further then what the Light that is in every man doth dictate is to say to a commanding God I will not take I will not eat And this in these four particulars is Rebellion Therefore that Person who having the Scriptures will practice no more then what the Light that is in every man doth dictate cannot be saved Have the commands of Christs no Authority over mens Consciences Or do his commands cease to be his commands for being written Doth not Christ say the word that I have spoken shall Judge you Jo. 12.48 And is not he resolved to take vengeance on them that obey not the Gospel 2 Thes 1.7.8 Truly these words Repent Believe Baptize Do this Yea and now by reduction Remember the Sabbath are though written not only the words of Christ but they are Gospel also Woe Woe to those Persons at the day of Judgement that are then found to have lived and dyed in Rebellion against Christs commands by these words These words shall Judge them and for disobeying the Gospel Christ will take vengeance on them To conclude blame was laid on Israel that of a long time they had not kept the Passeover as it was written 2 Chron. 30.5 But in Nehemiahs time the People of God finding it written that they should keep the feast of Tabernacles on this motive obeyed Neh. 8.14 And t is said v. 17. There was great gladness They were assured they pleased God in so doing And the mother of our Lord was careful after the daies of her Purification to offer a sacrifice as it was written Knowing it was written she knew she was bound and heartily obeyed These instances are in things the Light in all men doth not dictate as it doth not dictate Justification by Christs Righteousness Repentance and Faith in Christs blood for pardon of sinful motions of the heart and sinful Principles the observation of the Christian Sabbath Baptism and the Supper The former things instanced the Scriptures declare abolished These the Scriptures no where reveal they are abolished The God of all grace then open your understanding to see your duty and obey fully and not by halves that following God fully with Caleb and Joshua you may be accepted of the Lord. Your Truly well-wisher in Christ Jesus St. Scandrett Thus it appears the words I delivered in the Dispute taken in a right sense are no way in themselves derogatory to the Truth of God I am willing to hear defective because I did not fully explain my words in the dispute But I cannot but complain of disingenuity and falseness when I see p 4. They have given out that I should say This Light within might through the blessing of God with a good improvement save them that have not the Scriptures By what I have written it is clearly otherwise Quest I desire to answer one Query more to give full satisfaction touching inward Light 'T is this Is not the immediate teaching of the Spirit the highest and safest Rule to heaven Is it not safer to walk by the immediate teachings of the Spirit in our hearts than by the teaching of the Spirit in the Scripture and to entertain the spirits teachings in the Scripture no further then they agree with these than to entertain these no further than they agree with the Spirits teachings in the Scripture This Query is weighty And indeed the whole Controversie stated anew I must be large in the solution of it First Therefore I shall open the Terms then lay down my Answers 1. Let us remember nothing is a Rule to heaven but it Reveals Law and Gospel our whole Duty 2. Let us understand the ways of the Spirits teaching 1. He teacheth us Physically by enlightning our minds Thus Gods Spirit so assures our hearts that Jesus is Christ that there is no need in the least we should enquire of men the truth of it 1 John 2.27 The Anointing which ye have received abideth in you and ye need not that any man teach you John was confident Seducers should never be able to perswade them that Jesus was not the Christ Hence also Paul could curse an Angel that should preach any other Gospel than what he had delivered This Teaching is no Rule at all but an help to see the Rule 2. He teaches us Morally or Objectively propounding or setting before us Gods Mind or Will to embrace and walk by 1 John 14.26 The Comforter shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you These Teachings which take in the things taught are a Rule for we must walk according to them And of this way of the Spirits Teaching must we understand the Question 3. Let us be informed what is the immediate teaching of the Spirit There is a Mediate which is done by Means by the Scriptures as in the last mentioned The Spirit brings these to remembrance and thus we hear a word behind us saying this is the way walk in it when we turn to the right hand or to the left Isa 30.21 By the Ministry Thus the Spirit of Christ in the Prophets 1 Pet. 1.11 Testified to the Church beforehand the sufferings of Christ And by other means even by the works of Creation and the Light in every man propounding the Creation to be considered he helps us to conclude a God thence that he is to be worshipped c. I say Gods Spirit by these teacheth us for in him we live move and have our being without his help the world could not come into consideration without his