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A54245 Urim and thummim, or, The apostolical doctrines of light and perfection maintained against the opposite plea of Samuel Grevill (a pretended minister of the Gospel) in his ungospel-like discourse against a book entituled A testimony of the light within, anciently writ by Alexander Parker / by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1674 (1674) Wing P1393; ESTC R27610 28,857 34

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his fleshly State being weakned cannot perform Bp. Sanderson saith further The new Law that is the Gospel binds all to whom it is preached to the Obedience both of Faith and Life To believe in Christ as a Redeemer and ebey him as Law-Giver both which unless they do for their Duty neglected they shall suffer Everlasting Punishment S. Grevil expounds 1 Joh. 3. 9. Whosoever is born of God he cannot sin that is He cannot make a Trade of it from J. Leigh Answ H. Grotius a Man worthily of greater Authority calls that a pernicious Exposition whereby sayes he they infer that a Study Endeavour to live well suffices for one to be accounted a Son of God although the Things be not fulfilled the Custom of Sin prevailing and he brings Tertullian in his Book De Pud●citia saying thus of Sin Sinners He that is born of God will not at all commit these shall not be a Son of God if he shall commit them So a good Tree cannot bring forth evil Fruit but it may become barren rotten vitious after it is so degenerated it may be cut down also an evil Tree may become good then consequently no more an evil Tree And likewise Chrysostom on Rom. 8. hath the same Comparison And Jerom Didymus's Disciple l. 1. adv Pel. saith He that is born of God sins not as long as the Seed of God abides in him viz. lively And on Math. 7. A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit as long as it perseveres in the Study of Goodness But S. Grevil saith He hopes Parker will not say God gives his People the Enjoyment of Heaven in this Life I answer Bish Hall saith it and entituleth his Book Heaven upon Earth acknowledging the same in Nature though not in Degree How ignorant is this Man of Scripture or forgetful Doth not Paul in the Epistle to the Hebrews supposing he wrot it speak of some that may have tasted of th● Powers of the World to come and may fall from that Taste But what means he by his alwayes needing more more Grace If a Man be filled he needs no more And a Man needs no more in this State then what he is capable of in this State And for his part it seems he needs no more for he hath more then he useth though there is great need he should make more use of what he has S. Grevil scoffingly comparing the Quakers Speakers with Paul sayes If they could give that which they think is the Spirit they would make more Quakers as much as to say if Paul could have given the Spirit more of his Hearers should have had the Spirit and consequently he was not a Minister of the Spirit in that Sense as if it had been Paul's Fault But was not the holy Ghost given by Paul's Hands Acts 19. When he had laid his Hands upon them the holy Ghost came upon them they speak with Tongues prophesied What Gift was that Timothy receiv'd by the laving on of his Hands called the Gift of God It plainly appears that God by the Ministry of Paul did give the Spirit to several was he not at that time a Minister of the Spirit Was not he that ministred the Spirit to the Galatians a Minister of the Spirit himself It must follow undeniably many Thousands were by his Ministry turn'd from Darkness to Light from the Power of Satan to the Power of God to walk in the Spir●t with God And for all S. G's unworthy Taunts whether those that are now called forth as they were not by Men nor of Men to wit the Quakers Speakers as he is pleased to call them or those that are made called and upheld by Men to minister the Letter Writings or Declaration of the Gospel after their own Imaginations as S. Grevil and his Fraternity not unlike the false Prophets of old time which he calls but falsely the Doctrine whereby the Spirit is conveyed do awaken more Consciences and turn more to walk in the Spirit to bring forth the holy Fruits of the Spirit Let the Fruits that are brought forth in the World under both their Ministries speak To prove that the Scripture or Writing is the Gospel He saith The Scripture preached the Gospel to Abraham therein producing a Place against himself for it plainly proves the Scripture is not the Gospel since the Gospel was preached to Abraham by God before it was recorded or wratten by Moses That we chuse to call the Gospel which the Scripture declares of that is The Good Will of God to Men by his Mercy Power and Goodness manifested to them and that may be resisted as well in an inward Manifestation as outward Declaration for Stephen said to the Jews You have alwayes resisted the Holy Ghost as your Fathers did c. Jonas also disobeyed the immediate Call of God And whereas he saith John Baptist preached the Gospel That is also clearly against himself for that was before the four Books which he maintains to be the Gospel were written The Gospel is called a Mystery hid from Ages and Generations and is still hid from all the Rebellious and Disobedient who walk not after the Spirit but their own Lusts But so are not those four Books so call'd neither are they the glorious Gospel but that which they declare of None of those Fathers he speaks of I dare say if he quoted the Places would be found to countenance his Definition for he confesses they say It forgives and justifies which the four Books do not they only declare such Things to Believers If Mathew and John and Paul and Peter were not the Gospel because they were Powerful Instruments to declare it no more are their Books Writings They were not the glad Tidings but the Bringers and Publishers of it their Books are no more if so much not being viva voce as they say the like Power not usually accompanying the meer or dead Letter as the living Voice Where did ever any hear or read that the Reading of Peter's Sermon converted 3000. at one time Ignatius saith The Gospel is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Perfection of Incorruption Paper and Ink are not so And saith Origen John calleth the Gospel Everlasting which may be properly call●d Spiritual that the Books are not though they hold out Spiritual Things Clemens Alexandrinus saith The Angel Exod. 32. held forth the Evangelical leading Power of the Word That Evangelical Power was not then of the Books but of the Word which was and is God blessed forever Chrysostom plainly saith they are not the Gospel R. Allen on the Gospel saith It is a Divine Message from God himself that teacheth and assureth c. How can it be Divine work Assurance if it be not a Spiritual and inward Work which the Books are not nor of themselves can work Peter Martyr saith It is such a Doctrine as effereth Christ unto us
and his Spirit and Grace whereby is ministred Strength unto us to perform those things that are command●d which the Books of themselves still cannot do though they declare of that which can Not that we would lessen them as our ungodly Wresting Adversaries say or that we would take off People from reading them but if they of themselves could do or had that Power which belongs to the everlasting Gospel how comes it that so many Studiers of them receive no clearer Knowledge and living Sence of God Christ the holy Spirit Scriptures c We do teach That to read them with a good Understanding Men must come to that which g●ves it which is the Inspiration of the Almighty Job 32. 8. But it is worth our while to consider what Work he makes of A. P's saying That the Gospel is the Power of God to Salvation an absolute plain Scripture as any in the Bible A. P. d●th not deny that the Gospel was before all Time consequently that it is the Essence of God and he is a Disciple of the Heretick Swingfield Did ever Man pretending to Sense or Seriousness make such wild forreign and lame Conclusions These are it seems to serve for Bugbears to scare the People He might have as well said The Quakers believe the Life Everlasting and conclude Therefore they make it the Essence of God which as reasonably proclaims the Church of England a Company of Hereticks nay all the World that believe that Article as he can brand A. P. for one because he said The Gospel is the Power of G●d and Everlasting which the Scripture calls it In these things he truly partakes with the F●lse Brethren he speaks of mentioned Act. 15. 24. who did not only teach and establish against the abolishing Power of the Gospel transient Observations but their own vain Trad●tions for Doctrines glorying in them as did the Jews crying The Temple The Ord●nances while they neglect the weightier Things and make void the Commandment of God and Christ the Old Commandment and the New Commandment the same that was from the beginning the First and the Last even that which ●ndures forever Methinks these Hireling Ministers are like some Mercenary Souldiers or Souldiers of Fortune as they are called that cannot bear to think of the Enemy's being totally routed lest their War end and their Pay with it Such Persons instead of pursuing the Enemy turn about against their valiant and faithful Followers that cry They run They run we shall utterly rout and subvert them No! rather then highten and pursue that Resolution they will basely betray the Cause its most sincere Abettors into the Arms of the publick Enemy They make no Scruple of doing this Evil not that Good but Gain may come of it They had rather the Devil were unsubdued then they disbanded that his being unconquered might be a Pretence for keeping such Mercenaries alwayes on foot who are therefore the greatest Enemies of Christ's Kingdom in the Hearts of his Children These are they that will flee because they are Hirelings and care not for the Flock John 10. And it so falls out that now we have not only the old Adversaries but these also betwixt them and us who instead of going on against them first turn themselves manifestly against us and endeavour what they can to obstruct our March But the Lord God Jehovah is sufficient our Pillar of Cloud by Day and Fire by Night he goes before us Power and Might and Majesty are with him whose Holy Pure and Clear Voice we have certainly heard and in whose Blessed Appearance we have firmly believed and it is so well with us who retain our first Love to him and his pretious Truth in the inward parts that we can sing for Joy though in a weary Land and in the midst of many Distresses And this we know assuredly That he will shake terribly the Nations and bring Amazement upon the People Their Consciences will he suddainly awaken and with terrible Judgment will he plead with all the Proud Professing as well as Prophane Flesh in this Land it shall wither as the Grass and the Beauty of it fade as the Flower of the Field And in that Day shall Obedience to and Communion with the Light of Christ within be honourable and desirable in the sight of Thousands and the Truth shall have the Victory and the Dominion shall not be any longer the Devil 's but the Saints of the Most High over Hell Death and the Grave the Ancient of Dayes will bring it to pass Then shall Babylon fall and her Merchants howl for the great Judgment will surprize them as Travil a Woman with Child and the Lord God will reckon with them for the Souls of his People O fear before the Lord ye Priests and turn you unto him all ye Children of Men. W. P. Pag. 3. l. 27. f. former r. Form Pag. 4. l. 36. r whom I dare 1 Joh 9. Isa 2. Joh. 3. 21. Pag. 5. Pag. 7. Acts 14. 15 17. * Paul teaches that whatever is reproved is made manifest by the Light Ephes 5. 13. And whatever may be known of God is manifested in Man Rom. 1. 19. And that which manifests is Light as saith the same Apostle Ephes 5. 13. And he desired to be made manifest to the Conscience Then there was Light for Men were reproved Rom 2 15. and they could not be r●prov'd without it Ephes 5. 13. Col. 1. 26. Eph. 2. 7. 3. 5. * Was not that Mystery the great Work of Redemption And were not Thousands redeemed before If it was hid it was to such as had lost it by Rebellion It was the same Light not the same Degree that ever saved So Tryphon ask'd Just Martyr as I remember why Christ came nosooner * This proves not they had no Light at most it only sh●ws to us that it did not shine so clearly forth which stil● implies that it was the same in Nature How could those in Iob rebell again the Light if they had it not Codurcus ●usius Clarius Vatablus and others are not of his Mind for it is an invincible Truth that such as rebelled against the Light as Iob 24. 13. and God's good Spirit as Nehem. 9. 20. 26. notwithstanding their Formality and external Preciseness could not receive Christ Jesus but crucified him when he came John 1 9. Prov. 8. 4. 31. Iren. l. 5. c. 18. Justin Martyr Apo● pro Christianis p. 51. Orig. Commenon Rom. 2. 14. pag. 428. Stan. Vit. Philos Ursin Paraus Quest 6. Quest 92. Acts 17. 27. Grot. on that Place Pag. 1. Pag. 3. Luke 6. 31 32. Rom. 2. 14 15. David Paraeus in his Epitome of Arminian Artic. 3. Rom. 1. 19. ●very Grace or Gift of God is perfect Jam. ● 17 Psal 19. 7. 9 Rom. 7. 14. Ursin Qu. 92. and Para●us Orig. Com. ad Rom. p. 428. 1 Joh. 2. 7. Tertul. advers Judaeos §. 2. de Coron §. 6. See Chryso●● 1 To. Hom. 17. Oecumen on Jam. 5. 12. Basil on Psa 14. Hil. on Mat. can 4. Gal. 3. 10. Vers 19. vers 24 c. Origen ut supra Rom. 8. 1 2 3 c. Mat. 18. 1. Acts 3. 21. 1 Jo. 3. 5 8. Titus 2. 14. in loc citat Bp. Sanderson de Cons regul prelect 4. §. 31. Hebr. 9. 9. 1 John 5. 3. Calvin Remigius 1 Joh. 4. 18. John 14. 15. Rom. 13. 10. pag. 10. pag. 11. Gal. 3. 12 Neh. 9. 10. Rom. 1. 21. Rom. 2. 5. Isa 5. 3 4. 6. 9 10 11 12 Joh. 12. 31 42. Mark 12. 9 10. Phil. 3. 12. 2 Tim. 4. 6 7. Vers 2. Vers 9. See Zegerus and Grotius Erasmus on the place Pag. 12. Hebr. 5. Mat. 14. 31. See Grotius on the place John 7. 31. 1 Cor. 14. 20. Ignatius Epist to the Ephesians saith He that possesseth the Word of Jesus can truly hear also his SILENCE that he may be PERFECT p. 26. 1 Kings 8. 46. Eccl. 7. 20. pag. 13. Grotius on the place 1 Pet. 4. 1. Zegerus on the place Rom. 6. 18 2 Tim. 4. 7. Erasmus and Grotius on Rom. 7. pag. 8. 1 Cor. 3. 17. Zegerus on Rom 7. 24. I. Capellus and Drusius on Rom. 7. 24. Grotius on Rom. 7. 23 24. Ibid. on Rom. 6. 6. See D. Gell's Essay serm 19. p. 775. pag. 15. Mat. 12. 26 27 28 29. Luke 11. 1 Joh. 3. 5 6. B. R. Sand de consc reg Prel 4. Sect. 34. ●is Oxf. le●● Tit. 2. 11 12. 2 Cor. 12. 9. Ibid. §. 29. §. 31. Rom. 8. 3. B. San. ibid. §. 32. Joh. 15. 22. Grotius on 1 Joh. 19. A direct Knock to S. G Mat. 7. 18. Heb. 6. 5. 2 Tim. 1. 6. Gal. 3. 5. Acts 7. Ephes 6. 19. Chap. 3. 3 16. Col. 1. 26. 1 Tim. 1. 11. Epist ad Philadel p. 44. Orig. Comment n● Joh. pag. 9. Clem. Alex. Pedagog l. 1. p. 111. R. Allen on the Gos p. 1. P. Martyr Comm● Places p. 3. c. 2. Mat. 23 23 Luke 11 4. 1 Joh. 2. 7 8. Psal m 19. 9. 1 Cor. 13. 8.