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A54085 The people called Quakers cleared by Geo. Keith from the false doctrines charged upon them by G. Keith and his self-contradictions laid open in the ensuing citations out of his books / by John Penington. Penington, John, 1655-1710.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. Postscript. 1696 (1696) Wing P1229; Wing P1230; ESTC R40279 25,467 55

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unto God in what he hath revealed unto them by the Light of Christ in them who dare or can say that they have not been accepted yet not without Faith in Christ in some Measure for they that believe in the Light believe in Christ who is that Light Rector Corrected p. 150. c. Printed Anno 1680. From whence two things are observable First That G. K. thought then there are Truths as necessary to be Believed as the Coming of the Messias his Incarnation Death c But if the Holy Ghost be given only to the one Faith not to the other surely that one Faith must needs be the most necessary Faith Secondly That a Man may believe in the Light consequently in Christ and yet Christs coming in the outward not revealed to him is what G. K. here allows These are what Citations I think fit to offer under this Head What may tend to a further enlargment upon it I refer till I speak of the Gentiles being savingly enlightned And now shall shew how as Captious as G. K. hath been of late against our Order and Method in Preaching the Gospel since he hath varied his own he hath Advocated for it and commended it 2. Inward Principle to be Preached in the first Place and the Effects thereof This is the true Method and Order saith G. K. Way to the City of God p. 156 157. which the Lord hath taught us to hold forth unto People whereby they attain unto Holiness and come to know the great End and Use of his Christs outward Coming viz. in the first Place to point and turn their Minds unto the Light of Jesus Christ who hath enlightned them and every one and hath sown a Seed of his Light Life and Spirit in every one unto which Seed they should give the most inward of their Hearts whence then in due time such a measure of Light and Life ariseth therein as gives them both truly to know Christ and to follow him In his Book of Universal Grace Printed Anno 1671. he saith This is the true and Only Method which should be used by Preachers for the bringing People into the Faith and Acknowledgment of the Christian Religion First to enform them of this Universal Principle what it is and turn them towards it and so as Wise Builders to lay this true Foundation in its proper Place And this will naturally bring People to own the Scriptures and things therein declared to own Moses and the Prophets to own Christ in the Flesh his Miraculous Birth his Doctrine Miracles Sufferings Death Resurrection and Ascension together with the wonderful End and Design of God therein to own the Evangelists and Apostles and finally to own the same as it is now again revealed in this day after the Apostacy p. 92. This is good Method and Order in the Preaching of the Gospel p. 93. Now hear what is not good Method and Order But to come saith he p. 93. to the Nations that have not nor do own the Scriptures and but few of the things therein declared and press them to believe the Scriptures and own them as the Words and Oracles of God in the first Place without first directing them to the great Word and Oracle of God in their own Hearts is most contrary unto the true Method and Order of the Gospel and against all true Method and Order held in the Knowledge of things natural which always proceeds from the more known to the less And to speak the Truth hence it is even for want of this true Order in Preaching of the Gospel that Men have had so little success hitherto Compare this with Nameless Bull p. 10 11. forequoted 3. That the Gentiles were savingly Enlightned who knew not the History of Christs outward coming c. G. K. tells us in Truth Advanced page 42. Whereas Paul saith That the Gospel is the Power of God unto Salvation he doth not mean that it is the Power of God simply and abstractly considered without all Doctrine and Doctrinal Knowledge and Faith of Christ Crucified And p. 44. I do positively affirm saith he according to Scripture that Eternal Life and Salvation is only to be had through the Faith and Knowledge of Christ Crucified c. See more from p. 38. to p. 57. And in Further Discovery p. 16. That I have affirmed saith G. K. that this Faith is indispensably necessary to all viz. in order to Eternal Salvation to Believe in Christ as he Died for us and Rose again I freely own it that I have so affirmed and do still so affirm Again p. 18. We are Sanctified through a living Faith in Christ as he Died for us and that Faith is necessary to Men's Regeneration and Sanctification as well as to Remission of Sins and therefore is necessary to all And a little lower He cannot give me an instance of any that ever knew the Mystery of Christ within but also knew in some measure the Mystery of Christ without compare this with my Citation even now out of Appendix page 242. And again To suppose saith he a Faith in Christ that doth not respect his outward coming in the Flesh and Death and Sufferings but only and alone that inward common Illumination that is in all Mankind is to set up an Unscriptural and Antichristian Faith opposite to the true Christian Faith To these I shall add another out of Seasonable Information p. 30. viz. The Work of Sanctification is ascribed in Scripture to Christs Blood and Sufferings as well as to his inward Appearance and to both indispensably necessary and to Faith therein Now although he hath sufficiently contradicted these sayings in what hath been cited already and particularly Appendix p. 242. Rector Corrected p. 150. c. yet he having more of them I shall bring some out of his Book of Universal Grace There was such a Principle in them the Gentiles whereby they did the things contained in the Law Therefore it was a Principle of the very saving Light and Life of Jesus Christ which is that Divine Nature mentioned 2 Pet. 1. 4. Thus far p. 28. Now let him tell me whence this Divine Nature was influenced if not from the Divine Spirit or Holy Ghost which lately he would not allow to Cornelius but only a great measure of Gentile Sincerity and Righteousness But he goes on p. 29. thus These Gentiles did the things contained in the Law so that they were excused yea and justified and did receive the reward of Glory Honour and Peace in so doing In divers of these Gentiles the Seed was raised that 's beyond Gentile Sincerity without the Holy Ghost sure which is that Divine Nature or Birth by which they did the things contained in the Law and so were justified by him c. But it seems some were ready to Argue then as he hath done since that there can be no justification without Faith in Christ but these Gentiles had not Faith in Christ therefore c. to which
Faith so some who were truly Religious did want it as is clear in the Case of that Devout and Religious Man Cornelius whose Prayers God heard and yet he knew not the History of Christ nor of his Death and Sufferings till it was Preached unto him by Peter And the very Disciples themselves while they followed Christ outwardly knew not that he was to die for some time and yet in that time of their Ignorance of this weighty Matter were truly Religious It is a hard Matter for this Man to say any thing but he must interfere his former and later ●●ritings looks askew upon one another as if they did not belong to the same Author He finds fault in his Causeless Grounds p. 1. with some for altering the Titles of his Books and giving new ones particularly to one this new Title The Christian Quaker or George Keith's Eyes opened As if the Name Christian Quaker were peculiar to me saith he Or as if I had been formerly blind till of late Days and then tells us Whatever he hath delivered in any of his late Printed Books touching either the Resurrection of the Dead or any other Principles of Christian Doctrine hath been his Faith ever since he came among the People called Quakers viz. upwards of thirty Years past He is like to be tried before we part But this I here observe that in the above recited Appendix Cornelius is represented as a Devout and Religious Man one whose Prayers God heard Yet in Truth advanced p. 45. a Book Printed Anno 1694. he will not allow him or the faithful Heathen who had no Knowledge nor Faith of Christ Crucified and raised again to be true Christians at all Nay p. 70. he reckons it among the dangerous and hurtful Errors to assert that Men may have that Holy Ghost that was given to Believers in Christ Crucified c. Without all Knowledge and Faith of Christ Crucified For he adds It is not said that Cornelius had the Holy Ghost in his Gentile State although he had a great Measure of Gentile Sincerity and Righteousness Now I would fain know of him Whether any Prayer is heard by God but what is put by his Spirit The Apostle Paul was of another Mind Rom. 8 26. And I doubt not but G. K. hath been so once Himself tells us p. 46. Some have asserted that Pythagoras Socrates and Plato and other Gentile Philosophers who had some Measure of Uprightness and were in some Measure faithful to what was inwardly Revealed unto them were Christians as Justin Martyr and some other Ancient Writers have asserted This he saith he will not positively contradict but adds If they were real Christians and were worthy of that honourable Name they had some Faith and Knowledge of Christ the Messiah and Saviour of the World as he was to come in the Flesh But I ask waving the Definition of a Christian wherein their Charity exceeds his Whether a Man in his pure Gentile State devoid of the Holy Ghost hath the necessary Parts of Religion hath that without which Religion cannot subsist as to the Being and Life of it the Terms of his Position above and if so it will necessarily follow that the Holy Ghost only makes up the Entireness and Fulness of it but is not Essential to the Being and Life of it which is an hurtful Error indeed If not Cornelius by having those Parts necessary to the Being of Religion had the Gift of the Holy Ghost and out of this Dilemma let him Extricate himself if he can In the mean time I go on to the next Citation out of the same Appendix p. 232. In them who have not the Scriptures the Spirit and Light of Christ sufficiently teacheth them the Parts of Religion absolutely necessary without the Scripture to which Parts the History of the Scripture doth not belong as is said and they who do faithfully improve the Knowledge of those necessary Parts although they want the History it sufficeth unto them for Salvation Hence I Query Whether the Spirit and Light of Christ being the Teacher such may be said to be without the Holy Ghost And whether any thing less then the Holy Ghost in some Degree sufficeth to Salvation But there is another Blunder of his yet behind I do most willingly grant saith he p. 242. that the Preaching of Christ without us in his Birth Life Suffering Death Resurrection Ascension Intercession c. is a very considerable part of the Doctrine of the Gospel yea more than the skin is a part of the Body of the Man yet it is but an integral Part such as the Hands and Feet of a Man without which a Man may subsist but not as an entire and compleat Man and so may true Religion and Christianity subsist without the History of Christ in the Letter to wit in the Mystery of the Life of Christ in the Spirit and yet even here where the History is wanting the Mystery or inside of Christianity is not without its skin or outside namely an outward Confession unto God Waving the unaptness of the Simile for no Man can subsist without his Skin without Hands or Feet he may I observe he here admits of a Christianity without the History of Christ in the Letter What becomes then of his late Position That if they were real Christians they had some Faith and Knowledge of Christ the Messiah as he was to come He that pretends that upwards of thirty Years he hath been the same Man may cast an Eye back upon what he hath said Reasons and Causes p. 31. viz. That Faith in Christ Jesus as he came without us in the Flesh and died for our Sins c. is necessary to make a true Christian The same he tells T. E. Seasonable Information p. 29. and assigns it as the chief point of Doctrine wherein the Controversie lay between them of the other side and him Is this Man fit to engage in Controversie with others that knows not his own Mind But this is not all it seems where the History is wanting the Mystery may not nay it is not without its outside if there be an outward Confession to God though there be never a Word of Christ his Death Sufferings c. Yet once again let me Query Whether where the Mystery is known the Holy Ghost be received or not To a Question of the Rectors of Arrow whether the Light within sufficienly tells us that the Messias is come or indeed that he was promised that Jesus born of Mary is he that he had real Flesh Dyed c. G. K. after an Enumeration of what the Light doth teach viz. That there is a God that created all things that he is most Holy Just Wise c. a Plentiful Rewarder of them that serve him c. concludeth thus These and divers other Truths as necessary as any doth the Light of Christ teach and hath taught in many who never had the Scriptures and if they have been faithful
he answers by denying the second Proposition For if they did cleave unto said he then and Believe in the Light they Believed in Christ for he is the Light nor is the outward name that which saveth but the inward Nature Virtue and Power signified thereby which was made manifest in them and thus is Christ even that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that which may or must be known of God p. 30. But this he will not allow to us now The Gentiles were not so cast off but that as to what was the main and principal thing to wit the word of Faith the Gentiles did share with the Jews and that whoever among the Gentiles did Believe and Call upon the Name of the Lord were saved no less than the Jews p. 34. This was the priviledge of the Gentiles no less than of the Jews to have this word so near unto them as to be in the Mouth and in the Heart That these Gentiles who did call upon ☞ the Name of the Lord and were saved were not under any outward Administration of the Gospel is most evident from the objection framed by the Apostle v. 14 15. and his answer thereunto p. 35. Compare with Truth Advanced p. 70. cited above The hearing that Faith comes by he tells us p. 36. is the hearing by the word even that Word that was in their Mouth and Heart And a little lower as a Comment upon those Words They have not all obeyed he bids us mark the Apostle doth not say They have not all obeyed the law of Nature or the Light of Nature but they have not all Obeyed the Gospel so that the very Gospel adds he hath been Preached unto all otherwise they should never have been charged with not having Obeyed it But I put him to prove that the History of Christ his Conception Birth Crucifixion Resurrection and Ascension hath ever been Preached to all either Explicitely or Implicitely seeing he saith the very Gospel hath been And Secondly That whether where the very Gospel hath been received or that which he here calls the very Gospel the Holy Ghost hath not been given The Gentiles were not so cast off of God but that they had the same Mercy as had the Jews in relation unto the Chief and Substantial thing They the Scriptures point unto some Manifestation of him in and among the Gentiles in all Ages sufficient unto Salvation p 56. Kiss the Son lest he be angry Now that they are bid to Kiss the Son doth plainly import that the Son was held forth and given unto them of the Father in ' true Love that they might Kiss him i. e. that they might enjoy him which doth again infer that there was such a Manifestation of the Son let forth unto them which was sufficient into Salvation else How could they be required to Kiss him if he were not offered and made manifest unto them And how could he be offered unto the Gentiles to Kiss him if it were impossible for them so to do p. 57. if G. K. will not believe himself who doth he think will believe him But to proceed Christ in Scripture is called the Salvation of God which was in some measure made known or manifest in them though not as to the OUTWARD NAME yet the Power Light and Life p. 58. What though they knew not the outward Name if they knew the Nature the Spirit the Life which slays Sin and cures the Soul It is not the meer outward Name that saves but the Life the Power of Christ that Quickens Cleanses Purifies and by this they might be saved For it is the Life that saveth Rom. 5. 10. p. 115. How often hath G. K. of late been uneasie under this Doctrine as if it Depreti●ted what our Lord did and suffered in the outward And in his Further Discovery p. 10. he calls a Friend Bold Ignorant Soul for Preaching That the Blood which cleanseth from all Sin ●as the Life and the Life is the Light calling a perverse Exposition And the Reason seems to be because the Friend said it Had G. K. said it it mought have past for Authentick or he hath said the same That the knowledge of him Christ at in the outward is of necessity unto Salvation we grant not save ONLY where it is Revealed and there it is very useful and comfortable p. 117. Compare with the Quotation out of Further Discovery page 16. above From our common Adversaries allowing that Children may be saved G. K. infers Why may not also some Men who are as it were but Children and Infants even Babes in Christ as to Spiritual Knowledge he saved without that clear distinct Knowledge of his outward coming being born of his Spirit c. p. 117. This he speaks of the Gentiles as will be obvious to any that consult the Book for it immediately follows the Quotation above That which I observe is this That here he allows them to be Babes in Christ Born of the Spirit but in his Truth Advanced p. 70. Cornelius is denied to have had the Holy Ghost in his Gentile State Are Babes in Christ who are Born of the Spirit without the Spirit Or is not their Food Spiritual to wit the sincere Milk of the Word But this Man must be made manifest To that end hear him again He Christ left not the other Nations destitute of the MAIN and PRINCIPAL thing even the manifestation of the Light c. which would have given them the Knowledge of God and of all his Laws and Statutes NEEDFULL to be known by them had they improved the same aright And seeing it hath been so in times past why may it not be so now p. 120. Let G. K. answer his own Question if he can Though the outward Teachings which proceed from the Light are truly profitable yet are they not of such absolute necessity as if God and Christ could not be known where the outward occasions of hearing are wanting p. 121. Thus G. Keith one while asserting that Faith in Christ as he Died Rose again Ascended c. is indispensably necessary to all another while that Men have been saved without it which upon what hath been premised I leave with the Reader whether it hath not been sufficiently proved upon him puts me in mind of an Observation a Friend made viz. That he knew not what could palliate it but the strange Notion of the Revolution of Humane Souls which makes it more than probable that they shall have opportunity one time or other before the end of the world of Hearing this Faith and Doctrine Preached and may receive it though now they Die without it But this point adds he must be tenderly touched now because few are ripe for it yet how far he G. K. hath countenanced it is known to many See State of the Case p. 12. Yet I remember also how stoutly G. K. confuted him by telling him he was extreamly Ignorant had neither the true Faith nor a true Notion