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A46757 Historical examination of the authority of general councils shewing the false dealing that hath been used in the publishing of them, and the difference amongst the Papists themselves about their number. Jenkin, Robert, 1656-1727. 1688 (1688) Wing J568; ESTC R21313 80,195 100

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