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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77781	A testimony against the Quakers False-doctrine, and the image they have set up Being a defence of the book called Antichrist transformed. In answer to a little book, published by Giles Barnadiston. And for better information, the image is hereto annexed verbatim, with the subscribers thereof. Published by Geoffery Bullock.	Bullock, Jeffery, of Sudbury.	1677 (1677)	Wing B5426A; ESTC R201448	24,117	31

Mountains of Imagination and the Light stands in Judgment over you and also your Book will be a Witness against you and the Spirit of God in all those that seriously read it Friends I think it had been more suitable for you to have looked back and to have considered some of the Patriarks and holy Men of God who in their day and Generation did err You might have remembred Isaac the Patriark who when he had lost the Spirit of discerning grew blind and then he was resolved that Esau should have the Blessing although it was Jacob's right to have it And you might have remembred Jacob who from a wrong Spirit rebuked Joseph when he told his Father he dreamed the Sun the Moon and the eleven Stars should bow before him And you might have remembred Aaron and Miriam who from a Spirit of Pride withstood Moses and said Hath not the Lord spoken unto us as well as unto thee And you might have remembred old Ely who from a dark Spirit rebuked Hannah who was a Woman of a sorrowful Spirit And you might have remembred Job's three Friends who undertook to Judg Censure and Condemn Job but had not Power to convince him And Friends you write against me in page the fifth and sixth because I said whatever is written to those called Churches it ought to be written in and from the Holy Ghost for if Paul did at any time speak by permission and not the Lord it is but a Mans Commandment and no Man is bound in Conscience to follow it for Paul saith Be ye followers of me as I am of Christ Now Paul he Baptized and he also Circumcised but yet he had no Commission to do it And so in time he preach'd it down as John did his Baptism but Christ in his day neither Baptised nor Circumcised any Man wherefore none are to follow Christ as having Paul for their Example but all are to follow Christ their Light within as their only Rule to walk by Neither ought any Quaker so called Man or Woman to follow the Light within as having your Orders and Dictates as a Rule and Guide for them to walk by Again you write against me because I said whatever is written from a sight or sence or sensible part and not from the Spirit of Revelation it is not to be owned by the Churches and you write thus and say in your Book that implies contradiction as much as if the Spirits Revelation should put out Sight and Sensibility and so I would have blind Elders and sensless Ministers But Friends it is the Devil that hath Power to blind the Soul and Understanding of Man and the sensible part wherefore none are to write from that part in them which the Serpent hath Power to blind for it is the Soul and Understanding of Man that receives the Sight But all are to write both in and from the Spirit of Revelation which alone hath Power to give the Creature sight and to make people sensible of their state and condition And this is the Holy Ghost or Spirit of God which gives the true Sight and can never blind it for that is the Devils work to bring blindness over the Minds of People wherefore if any speaks or writes as pretending to teach others it ought to be in and from the Holy Ghost for Christ said It is not you that speak but the Holy Ghost And the Apostle saith If any Man speak let him speak as the Oracle of God and it is the Spirit saith Paul that makes Intercession with Groans that cannot be utered for it is the Invisible Soul and Understanding that is to be Baptized with the Holy Ghost Now the thing Baptized that is not to speak in the Church because it hath been both in Error Sin and Transgression but the Invisible Man Christ he is to speak in every Vessel who redeems the Creature out of Transgression and not the Soul nor yet the Sensible part which hath been in Transgression for the Priests of England they are sensible Preachers who declare against the manifestation of the Spirit and deny also all Revelations from God and yet they tell People that if they be sensible of their state and condition it is an evident token of their Conversion But I say that all People that come truly to know God they must witness a Being gathered into that Spirit which makes them truly sensible and this is a Childs state which hath past the Tree of Knowledg and doth witness in measure of being possest of the Tree of Life And you say that I run on in my sensless Stuff because that I said the Soul is the Woman in ever Visible Man For you ask me whether I have not presumed above what is written in the Scripture Friends I perceive that you have left the Quakers first Rule which they were to walk by as their only Guide which is the Light or Spirit of Revelation within for when I was first convinced and believed in the Light then you said the Light within in every Man was the only Rule the Grace within the Mystery of Life within or Gods Spirit of Revelation or his Law written in the Heart that was to be the only Guide for the Quakers to walk by But now I do perceive that you have set up your Image or Paper of Orders Dictates and Forms that they should join with them as their Rule and Guide Friends I perceive you are determined page the seventh to set up your selves and also your Image and Superiority amongst the People called Quakers and likewise to Maintain those Doctrines amongst them that he that is not justified by the Witness of God in Friends is condemned by it in himself and that those that are unreconciled to the Church are unreconciled to God wherefore this I have to say and to all antient Friends Remember the first Testimony that was then founded amongst the People by the Quakers it was thus All People mind the Light within you turn to the Light within believe in the Light that doth both convince and make manifest Sin and all owne the Judgment of it for that is the word of Eternal Life and also the Saviour of the Soul and the Salvation of the ends of the Earth and that this was Gods Spirit by whom the World was made who was in the Beginning and before the Beginning and also without Beginning of Days or end of Life And this they said was the true Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World and that this Light was both God and Christ and the only Saviour of Man and they exhorted all minds to turn to it as their God and Saviour Now you say in your Book that those that are unreconciled to the Church are unreconciled to God But now the Church in God that is Invisible as God is Invisible although it doth consist of Visible Bodies and Invisible Souls who are Invisibly redeemed from the Earth by the Spirit of

and had also left their first Love And hath not God in the Ages and Generations past discovered the Sins of his own People witness Adam and Israel of old and also David whose Sins are left upon record And further you say in the end of your Book You have omitted many gross Absurdities Confusions and Follies But I think that you should have done well to have made both my Error gross Absurdities and Follies manifest in your Book that People might have known them else how can people believe what you say to be true And so here followeth some Queries for you Elders and Ministers so called by the Quakers to Answer First Whether the Light in every Quaker be not sufficient to justify them although you say it is the Light in you that condemns them 2. Whether the Light in any Man or Men be able and sufficient to save or justify any other Men but themselves 3. Whether Men cannot be reconciled to God except they be reconconciled to the Church called Quakers and whether a Man may not be reconciled to your Church and yet not be reconciled to God 4. Whether the Light in one Man or Men hath power to open the Understanding of another Man seeing that God hath placed a measure of his own Spirit in every Man 5. Whether there be not both Darkness and Light in every one that is called a Quaker as well in those called Elders and Ministers as any others 6. Whether the Light and also the Darkness hath not been and also is in all the Sons and Daughters of Men ever since the first Man Adam's Transgression 7. Whether the Light in every Man be either the Soul or Spirit of a Man or whether the Light is not a distinct Being by himself 8. Whether People are not wholly to depend upon the Light or Spirit or Christ within for Life and Salvation 9. Whether the same Light or Spirit was not in the Gentiles in those days when Christ was in the World in that Body which the Father had prepared for him although the fulness of the Godhead dwelt in Christ's body 10. Now where was that Flesh and Blood and what was it that Christ told the People in the days of his Flesh that they must both eat and drink or else they could have no life in them 11. Whether the Visible Man Christ who was Crucified without the Gates of Jerusalem whether his Body or Temple which was like unto ours Sin only excepted was dissolved or changed into a Spirit and that Spirit now manifested in the Gentiles or where do you believe that Christ's Body now is 12. Or whether there was any Visible Church so called or separation among the Gentiles which have not been bewitched and also led into error by their heaps of Teachers 13. And whether those heaps of Teachers by gathering of themselves together and by their Consultations and taking Counsel one of another have not brought in Errors and False-Doctrines in and among the Separations of our Churches of the Gentiles ever since the Night of Apostacy even to this very day 14. And whether those heaps of Teachers who have had a sight given them from Gods Spirit to see the Errors of other Teachers among the Gentiles that were before them and yet have not themselves also run into Errors as well as others But yet they would not believe it the Devil had so blinded their Minds and Understandings and that with a zeal too even as he did the Jews of old 15. And hath not all Persecution risen from a blind mad Zeal both as to Words and Actions in matters of Conscience under a Notion of Profession of both God Christ and the Scriptures 16. Whether Men must come to the Scriptures and outward means first before they can know their duty towards God And whether they must not first come to the Light and Manifestation of the Spirit within them before they can learn their duty towards God or what God requires of them to do 17. Whether God be changed or the way of his making known himself be changed And whether any Man or Men can come to the knowledg of God as to Life and Salvation but in and by the Spirit of Revelation Or whether Men did not know God before the Scriptures were 18. Whether any of your Writings although they should be given forth in and from the Spirit of God are an Instrumental Means to bring People to the Knowledg of God as to the Souls Salvation in these days any more than the Scriptures did bring the Jews to the knowledg of Christ in the days of his Flesh or Paul in his days Or by what outward means did you at first come to see beyond others or was it not the Light or inward Manifestation of the Spirit as a free gift from God that gave you to see beyond others and not by any outward Writings But yet one of your Ministers so called said that Friends Books were Instrumental to bring People to the Knowledg of God But if that be true what he said then is the way of God's making known himself to the Sons of Men changed For Men knew God before there was either Scriptures or Writings by any Man Neither do I read that ever the Scriptures brought any Man to the Knowledg of God So that your Writings must have Authority in them beyond the Scriptures For Man at first never knew God by the Scriptures but God hath ever made known himself to the Sons of Men by his Light or Spirit that was in them that is by revealing himself unto them Wherefore I would have all People that read my Book take notice of these following particulars which are owned by the Quakers which I do disown First That none can be justifyed by the Light or Witness of God in those called Ministers and Elders amongst the Quakers but all must be justified by the Light in their own particular or else they are condemned Secondly It is neither the Light God Christ nor the Seed that is to be quickned and raised up in the Sons and Daughters of Men but it is the first Man Adam that is to be both quickned and also raised up by the Arm of God's Power revealed Thirdly It is neither the Soul nor yet the sensible part or Understanding of Man that is either to Pray or Preach in a Meeting but it is the work of the Holy Ghost to speak in every Man Therefore what do you minister from and what do you minister to in the Sons and Daughters of Men Or what is that which is to attend your Declaration in those that hear you Therefore examine your selves by the Light what Spirit it is that speaks in you I have written this to the Elders and Ministers of the Quakers because there is nothing to be put to print amongst them without their approbation as their Image or Paper of Orders saith And also because your Book is written in the vindication of the Practice

by some evident proof either from the Spirit of Truth or the Scriptures of Truth and if you cannot prove your Doctrine and the setting up of your Image Orders and comely Forms as you call them in those which you call your Churches either from the Scriptures of Truth or by the Spirit of Truth and so prove them by Revelation from God and make God to be Author of your false Doctrines and also the Father of your Image otherwise they must be held forth and also managed by Satan in you transformed into an Angel of Light But now I do believe that those Doctrines and Practices of yours which I have writ against were never revealed to you from Heaven by the Spirit of God but they rose out of Hell Now in page the eighth of your Book you write against me because I deny the Resurrection of the Power or the arising of the Seed or God in Man the which Doctrines I did deny in my first Book and do still deny them for it was neither the Seed nor God that fell from Heaven into Bondage and Captivity in the Sons and Daughters of Man but it was the first Man Adam that fell both Soul and Body and we were his Generation having been in the Fall as well as he And you also say that Christ descended to bring Man out of the Fall Then according to your own confession it is the first Man Adam which God created and made that fell into Transgression so then it both was and is the first Man Adam that is to be both quickned and also raised by the Spirit of Life that never sinned the which is God manifesting himself in these earthly Tabernacles by his own Spirit But now the Holy Ghost never descended into the Virgins Womb for the raising the Seed or God out of Bondage and Captivity but the Spirit of God doth descend in the Sons and Daughters of Men for the bruising the Serpents Head and for raising and bringing of them both Soul and Body to an enjoyment of God again But yet I do own the Power to be both the Resurrection and the Life as he is in himself and he is also Mans Resurrection and Life as he comes to believe in the Light and obey it so Man comes to be quickned and also raised from under the Power of Death by the Spirit of Life and so brought into an enjoyment of Light and Life again For the Seed did never descend in Man for the quickning and raising up of the Seed in Man neither doth the Spirit of God descend to raise up God in Man nor yet Christ within never descended to raise up the Spirit of Christ in Man Now you do suppose the Resurrection of the Power because the Light descends and appears to Man whilst he is in the Fall but yet it abides not with Man whilst he is in the Fall but only to convince him of his Sin and also to condemn him for it But now if Man hears the Spirit and believes in the Light and obeys it then Man is both Quickned and Raised and brought up to God again by him who is both the Resurrection and the Life Wherefore now look back and remember that God called to Adam in the cool of the Day after he had eaten of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledg and had broke the Command of God then God cursed the Serpent and also drove Adam out of the Garden because of his Sin and Transgression And he also placed a flaming Sword against him But still God abode in the Garden in Dominion over all to Adams Condemnation But now in page the ninth of your Book in contradiction to what I have written you say If God be above in all the Sons and Daughters of Men he is taken in his proper place and the Devil is in his and I might have spared my pains But now I did never read or heard that God was out of his proper place for God is in his proper place and his Throne is established in Justice and Judgment over wicked Men to their Condemnation Psalm 11. as well as in Love and Mercy over those that hear him and obey him But now the Devil and Man both left their Place and Habitation in God and the Serpent hath had the Dominion over Man and Woman for the Scripture saith Darkness hath covered the Earth and gross darkness the People And because the Prophet saith Behold I am pressed as a Cart is pressed with Sheaves Again because the Scripture saith Let God arise and his Enemies shall be scattered therefore you do conclude and also believe that the Seed of God is underneath and must arise And indeed I once heard once Preach and in his Declaration did exhort all that had believed to feel God to arise and none to keep him down from which I do conclude thus much that the Creature is in dominion over his Creator and also hath Power to keep him down And another said All feel God to arise and take the Dominion over all which doth conclude that he is not yet in Dominion over all But now consider a little Wherefore did God swer in his Wrath that Israel should not enter into his rest And why did God strive with the old World by his Spirit was it because his Spirit was in Bondage and Captivity in them and so stood in need of help and deliverance from them Or wherefore did God strive with us by his Spirit in our youthful days was it because his Spirit or Seed was in Bondage and Captivity in us and so stood in need of our help to raise him up out of Bondage and Captivity or was it not we that were in Bondage and Captivity both Soul and Body being under the Power of Death and Darkness and so stood in need both of help and deliverance by the Spirit of God for the Apostle saith Awake thou that sleepest and arise from the dead and Christ shall give thee Light So then it is we that have slept the sleep of Death that are to be awakened and also quickned and it is not the Seed nor God that is to be quickned nor yet that are to arise out of Bondage and Captivity in the Sons and Daughters of Men. Therefore you must find out some other interpretation for these Scriptures For is it not written that the Seed of the Woman shall break the Serpents head then must not the Seed of the Woman be uppermost and above the Serpents Head in all the Sons and Daughter of Men for the Seed of the Serpent as it is written shall but bruise his Heel And is it not also written that God is the higher Power and every Soul must be subject to him And in page 10. of your Book you say that I do deny the travelling Seed Now this I do deny that neither the Seed nor God in Man travels for their own deliverance because that neither God nor yet his Spirit were ever in Bondage or