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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A76289	A briefe ansvver to R.H. his booke, entitled, The true guide, &c. Wherein are occasionally declared and proved by Scripture these particular things following: [brace] first, that the baptisme of water is a distinct baptisme from the baptisme of the spirit. ... Sixthly, in what sense some things related in Scripture are not Scripture, with divers other particulars occasionally spoken of. / By R.B. a well-wisher to the truth, and R.H.	R. B., Well-wisher to the truth.	1646 (1646)	Wing B159; Thomason E357_2; ESTC R16628	31,113	40

do it Now the Word written rather warranted the Prophet to eate for his health and forbad Abraham to kill but they had a word immediately from the same fountaine from whence the Word written first came which being written is a record and rule to all the Saints but it seemes R. H. would not have God himselfe nor the Prophets and Apostles in no case to goe a jot higher then the Word written In Page 6. He mentions three or foure things negatively the first is about Childrens Baptisme and some other things questioning what we have against them and because he thinkes nothing can be said against that point concerning the Baptisme of water let him take these few things into consideration First how he can warrant the baptizing of any with water by vertue of that commission Mat. 28.19 Go teach all Nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost because the Apostles themselves that baptized with water before that commission was giuen could not baptize with this Baptisme till they were indued with power from one high Luke 24.49 Tarry ye in the City of Jerusalem till you be indued with power from on high Acts 1.4 And being assembled together with them commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but waite for the promise of the Father which saith he ye have heard of me Secondly The baptisme of water was ever both before and after the giving of the Holy Ghost called Iohns Baptisme Act. 1.22 Beginning from the baptisme of John unto the same day that he was taken up from us Acts 18.25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord and being fervent in the Spirit he taught diligently the things of the Lord knowing only the baptisme of Iohn And Acts 19.3 4 He said unto them unto what were ye then baptized they said unto Iohns Baptisme then said Paul John verily baptized with the baptisme of repentance c. Thirdly And no other forme of words were used in that Baptisme but in the name of the Lord Jesus only Acts 8.16 For as yee the Holy Ghost was falne upon none of them only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Iesus Acts 19 5. When they heard this they were baptized in the name of the Lord Iesus For the baptisme of the Spirit was by laying one of the Apostles hands Acts. 8. ●● Then laid they their hands on them and they received the Holy Ghost Fourthly The baptisme of the Spirit was not so much as signified by the baptisme with water as may appeare Acts 19.2 And he said unto them have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye beleeved and they said unto him we have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost But if the Baptisme of the spirit had been the thing signified by the baptism with water the Baptizers would no doubt have so instructed the parties baptized or else they must be concluded to be either negligent or ignorant of their office But Paul did not so much as reprove those Baptizers for any such neglect but by laying on of Pauls hands they received the Holy Ghost Nay further This Baptisme of the Holy Ghost was a distinct gift of the Spirit from that which the Apostles and all other Beleevers receive by their union with Christ for the Apostles had those gifts and graces which were and still are common to other Beleevers by vertue of their union before this was given but this which is the promise of the Father they had not till Christ was ascended Iohn 7.39 This he spake of the Spirit which they that beleeve on him should receive for the Holy Ghost was not yet given because that Iesus was not yet glorified Acts 1.5 Ye shall be baptied with the Holy Ghost not many daies hence Lastly S. Paul saith expresly it was no part of his commission 1 Cor. 1.15 17. but the Baptisme of the Spirit by laying on of hands was part of the Apostles commission Mat. 28.19 compared with Acts 8.18 Mark 16.15 16 17. If any object and say what doth the Baptisme with water signifie then I answer it signifies our remission of sins by the death of Christ Acts 2.38 Then said Peter repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Iesus Christ for the remission of sins c. Rom. 6.4 And as for the subjects of this Baptisme of water I commend to R.H. his consideration Mr. Tombes his Book who is a Presbyterian as they are called and hath written largely upon that point whose Book yet remaines unanswered for any thing I understand to the contrary when R.H. hath answered him rightly he will satisfie many Christians who are at a stand and very much troubled about that point and when he hath positively proved his other things he speakes of and turned his interrogations into positive conclusions fully proved we shall then more particularly know what to answer to them In the meane time we will suffer him to make Quaerees and because he loves quaerees let him take this one not what he hath against but what he hath for any of his way to desire of the Parliament that which is inconsistent to the fundamentall Laws of the Kingdome did ever any of those whom he calls perverse and obstinate people desire such a thing Let him also know that untill he hath positively proved his own practice he must be suspected for a seducer according to his own first rule And marke further how he swerves from his owne first rule for whereas he titles those deceivers that will practice that they have no rule from Scripture for he finding himselfe destitute of Scripture runs to the old Popish shift and makes Quaeries and saith what have you against such and such things but let him know that God hath Interrogations to set against his Interrogations which will overthrow them Esay 1.12 saying Who hath required this at your hands So that we have enough against a thing when we have nothing for it for positive positions and practices must have positive proofes for negative positions negative proofes suffice I do not a thing because I find it not written sufficeth Therefore the Jewes circumcised Males because there was expresse command for it and not Females because they found it not written and yet they had no expresse command against it So in the Law we read that the Priests were to beare the Arke on their shoulders Num. 4.15 1 Chron. 15.2 as was there expresly commanded but there was no expresse command against carrying it on a Cart only they had learned that of the Philistims 1 Sam. 6. but God made a breach upon them for it 2 Sam. 6.8 9. 1 Chron. 15.13 And so they learned to do it afterwards according to the Law of God 1 Chron. 15.14 15. And the children of the Levites bare the Arke of God upon their shoulders as Moses commanded according to the Word of the Lord. He interrogates yet

place to his purpose save only in the generall to discover seducers from a True Guide but rather a false Christian from a true one and also is meant properly of a persecuting biting devouring Spirit Gal. 5.15 But if ye bite and devoure one another take heed ye be not consumed one of another Or in plaine tearmes a Legalist from a Spirituall man ver 18. but if ye are led by the Spirit ye are not under the Law a loving peaceable man from a van-glourious envious man ver 22.26 But had he been as well versed in the Scripture as in his old notes Saint John would have sufficiently furnished him with particulars for that purpose but that he thought it would make against him 1 John 4.2 3 4 5 6. Every Spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God and every Spirit that confesseth not that Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is that Spirit of Antichrist whereof you have heard that it should come and even now already is it in the world and so ver 5. They are of the world therefore speak they of the world and the world heareth them we are of God he that knoweth God heareth us he that is not of God heareth not us hereby know we the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error but it may be he hath not heard that place so expounded and had he tooke notice also of Esay 57.19 I create the fuit of the lips c. he should have there read of a fruit of the lips as well as of the fruits of conversation else where which sense John proceeds in to discover seducers in the place before quoted But R. H. not being acquainted with it thought a generall discovery might passe but he finds in Scripture that Seducers come in Sheeps cloathing they seem to be holy in their conversation therefore the fruit of the lips seeme to be the most proper distinguishing character to know them by for neither he nor I can tell when we see things done agreeable to the Word that it is a fruit of the Spirit for all that we can see is but a Morall thing therefore Paul when he speakes of the fruits of the flesh saith they are manifest Gal. 5.19 but he doth not say the fruits of the Spirit are manifest verse 22. for they are not so easily known to us only the judgement of charity which is so much wanting in him towards us should be in us all towards them whose actions are according to the Word In Page 4. in his foure last lines in applying his Answer to a generall Question there propounded he mentions Christs Answer to the Disciples about their commanding fire to come down from Heaven c. Christ doth indeed as he saith reject their answer and good reason for it though it was not as he saith altogether contrary to the Word written for they had Elias for their example to justifie their demand 2 King 1.10 and so they had some Scripture to ground their demand upon but the Disciples being yet somewhat like R. H. of a Legall Spirit thinking the old Legall administration should continue and it may be stood somewhat prejudiced to the New-light like him But Jesus Christ whose will was to have the glorious Gospell and new Covenant go forth with new even Gospell administrations like it selfe forbad them their demand with utter dislike of it although it will not satisfie many mens spirits to this day and told them that the Son of man cause not to destroy but to save mens lives It followes Page 5. Therefore saith he if any shall perswade you to separate from the people of God or Ordinances c. Marke how he still goes on in begging of questions if he had proved who were the people of God and which were the Ordinances of God then we should have been better able to justifie a separation from him as he from Rome or to have renounced such separation if unlawfull yet let him know there is a lawfull separation as well as unlawfull as may appeare Acts 19.9 When divers were hardened and beleeved not but spake evill of that way before the multitude he departed from them and separated the Disciples so 2 Cor. 6.17 Come out from among them and be ye separate c. Else why doth he refuse to worship God as the Papists do but because of their corrupt Doctrine and humane inventions It followes Likewise if any shall perswade you from the publike Ministry and from the Sacrament Marke still how he beggs questions but let him be plaine what Ministry and Sacraments he meanes and prove them to be Gods and done in Gods way and he shall receive an answer for from such as are Gods and administred in Gods way we say the same as he doth Againe he mentions praying and giving of thanks I am perswaded there no true Christian so Atheisticall but doth as faithfully and constantly acknowledge in these duties as R.H. Next followes his question Page 5. May I be led with every one that brings Scripture His answer is No for none are readier to bring Scripture then seducers true which may be the cause that R. H. brings Scriptures so oft and gives the true sense so seldome Next followes his notes or difference first those that are deceivers saith he will practice many things that they have no rule in Scripture for I answer it is very true and this we can make appeare to R. H. that he himselfe doth so for what warrant out of Scripture hath he for a Church of Christ made up of all the world as if a worldly Sanctuary were still Gods Ordinance as if a typicall State were stil in being what Scripture hath he for a worldly worship and worldly Ministery for such as the Church is such is the Ministery and worship of it 1 John 4.5 They are of the world therefore speake they of the world and the world heareth them Such practices deny Christ to be come in the flesh 1 John 4.3 for he would have all that are borne into the world Sons of God whether they be new borne or no whereas the Apostle saith plainly not by our naturall birth but by our new birth we become the Sons of God Gal. 3.26 Ye are all the Sons of God by faith in Christ Jesus But marke his first proofe for his instance is 1 King 13. where the young Prophet following the advice of the old Prophet contrary to the command of God was slaine I suppose he here discovers notable ignorance for the Prophet there doth not go on his message by a Word ordinary and written but by an immediate Word from God and should have been taken off not by a mediate word and pretended as was that of the old Prophet nor by Scripture but by the same immediate Word that set him on worke Even as Abraham had the same immediate Word to stay his hand from killing Isaac that commanded him to